Free gta02

2014-12-02 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

I have not been using this for a while - happy to give it to a more 
useful home if someone is prepared to pay for postage.


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Re: Free gta02

2014-12-02 Thread Philip Rhoades

Nikolaus,


On 2014-12-03 06:47, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:

Am 02.12.2014 um 20:19 schrieb Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au:


People,

I have not been using this for a while - happy to give it to a more 
useful home if someone is prepared to pay for postage.


Maybe also something to consider is to give it a new life through a
new motherboard:

http://download.goldelico.com/default/Presentations/20141129%20OHSW/3%20GTA04A5%20Project%20Status.pdf



It would be nice to play around some more but I just don't have the time 
now . . the first responder was from The Netherlands so I will check out 
the mailing costs to there first.


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Re: Use of a FreeRunner

2013-12-22 Thread Philip Rhoades

Ben,


On 2013-12-23 09:26, Ben Wong wrote:

I'm sure it could; your FreeRunner is a complete computer.

The question is if you have the time (or money to hire someone) to
write the glue script that will put all the pieces together. Let's
see, the parts you'll need are:

1. Check your mail account (fetchmail or python's imaplib)
2. Do a regex check to see if it's important 
(egrep/python/perl/awk/...)



I can do those bits.



3. Convert it to SMS format
3a. MIME extract (munpack or python's email package)
3b. Optionally remove HTML markup (lynx -dump or Beautiful Soup's
get_text() function)



and probably those bits - actually now that I think about it - there 
would always just be a little bit of text (the messages would always be 
coming from a phone message service) with an appended WAV file so it 
would have to be MMS rather that SMS . .




4. Send it as an SMS messages (dbus to FSO works but may not be best
practices)



This is the bit I know nothing about . .

Thanks,

Phil.



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People,

I have not used my FreeRunner for ages and probably should donate it 
someone
who can make use of it but a thought occurred to me:  It would be good 
to
have something that could act like a SMS server eg I have a demand 
where if
an (urgent) email comes into a particular account, that the contents 
of the
email are able to be resent as an SMS out through a mobile device 
gateway to

a number of phones - could OpenMoko be rejigged to do this somehow?

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Use of a FreeRunner

2013-12-21 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

I have not used my FreeRunner for ages and probably should donate it 
someone who can make use of it but a thought occurred to me:  It would 
be good to have something that could act like a SMS server eg I have a 
demand where if an (urgent) email comes into a particular account, that 
the contents of the email are able to be resent as an SMS out through a 
mobile device gateway to a number of phones - could OpenMoko be rejigged 
to do this somehow?


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Re: [Gta04-owner] Openmoko Community Survey 2011 ? Results

2012-01-17 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,


On 2012-01-17 22:16, Matthias Apitz wrote:

El día Tuesday, January 17, 2012 a las 11:49:00AM +0100, Christoph
Pulster escribió:


 A lot of people gave up and do not want Openmoko phone anymore.

The marketing of Openmoko Inc. failed. It was a short-sighted idee 
to

push the news with first open source mobile / free your phone.
It resulted in c. 15000 sold units, which is no success story in the
long term. Besides it was never a ready-to-use mobile phone for 
everyday

use. Even some Linux-die-for-geeks closed their drawers to store the
Freerunner into it.


-1 (note: minus 1)

Since I got the FR some years ago, I used it with Om2008.9 and now 
with

SHR as my one and only and daily phone;

well, maybe because I'm not a Linux-die-for-geek, but a 
FreeBSD-die-for-geek

:-)

I will now buy the GTA04, once I get the offer requested :-)



+1-1

I bought the FR as an experiment and didn't use it day-to-day - I 
played with every new version and was quite interested in the GPS 
functionality.  Sometime later my old phone died and by then QtMoko was 
nice enough to use as a daily phone but there are still some limitations 
(battery life, hard to hear in non-quiet situations, GPS app problems 
etc).  I am a Linux geek but a fairly light mobile phone user - I just 
couldn't justify spending another big chunk of money on something that 
uses the same case . .


My 2c

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Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02 - landscape big keyboard

2011-12-19 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,


On 2011-12-15 01:53, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote:

Hi,

--- On Wed, 12/14/11, Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi 
wrote:

Rafael Ignacio Zurita rizur...@yahoo.com
writes:
 v37 of qtmoko brings a new ultra-alpha keyboard with big
 keys in landscape mode. So it works like this for sms :

What's the name of this program?


bigkeyboard or biglandscapekeyboard :


https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/tree/master/src/plugins/inputmethods/biglandscapekeyboard



This is good but when the text is bigger than 3 lines - you can't see 
what you are typing . .


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Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA04

2011-12-05 Thread Philip Rhoades

On 2011-12-05 19:59, Patryk Benderz wrote:

Dnia 2011-12-05, pon o godzinie 09:54 +0100, Patryk Benderz pisze:

[cut]
 Are any of GTA02 owners interested in changes since v35, so that i 
should do

 this release also for GTA02?
Definitely yes!

Arghhh! damn Ctrl+Enter! Sent before finished. Just wanted to add:
I do not intend to change my board any near future, because of it's
relatively high cost, so I would really appreciate your continues 
work

on QtMoko for GTA02. Thanks for your great work!



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GTAX

2011-11-27 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

Don't we need a larger form factor?  Like a 4.5 screen?  Has there 
been any discussion along these lines?


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Re: QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-31 Thread Philip Rhoades

Thomas,


On 2011-10-31 21:01, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:

Joif,

I used:

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v35.bin
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v35.ubi
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-v35.udfu

I keep all my data on the SD card so it isn't touched by a 
re-install (I just need to symlink things).


Thanks,

Phil.


QtMoko v36 is NOT flashable. You can only use it (for now) from uSD
card. (Unzip it  roxx !)



Right - when is it likely to be flashable?

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Re: QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-31 Thread Philip Rhoades

Alishams,

How do you do that without using dfu-util exactly?

Thanks,

Phil.


On 2011-11-01 04:32, Alishams Hassam wrote:

I have it running from nand fine. I upgraded from v35 using the
v36.deb

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Philip Rhoades  wrote:


Thomas,

On 2011-10-31 21:01, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:


Joif,

I used:

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v35.bin
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v35.ubi
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-v35.udfu

I keep all my data on the SD card so it isnt touched by a
re-install (I just need to symlink things).

Thanks,

Phil.


QtMoko v36 is NOT flashable. You can only use it (for now) from
uSD
card. (Unzip it  roxx !)


Right - when is it likely to be flashable?

Thanks,

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Re: QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-31 Thread Philip Rhoades

Alishams,


On 2011-11-01 08:29, Alishams Hassam wrote:

Install qtmoko v35, wget/upload the v36 deb[1] on your FR, on the
phone do dpkg -i qtmoko_36-1_armel.deb



Thanks!  That worked OK but some of the stuff itemised on:

  
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community/60188


does not appear to be there eg NeoControl, qtmoko-chess

Regards,

Phil.



[1]

http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Experimental/qtmoko_36-1_armel.deb/download
[11]

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Philip Rhoades  wrote:


Alishams,

How do you do that without using dfu-util exactly?

Thanks,

Phil.

On 2011-11-01 04:32, Alishams Hassam wrote:


I have it running from nand fine. I upgraded from v35 using the
v36.deb

On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 6:03 AM, Philip Rhoades  wrote:


Thomas,

On 2011-10-31 21:01, Thomas HOCEDEZ wrote:


Joif,

I used:

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v35.bin
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v35.ubi
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-v35.udfu

I keep all my data on the SD card so it isnt touched by a

re-install (I just need to symlink things).

Thanks,

Phil.


QtMoko v36 is NOT flashable. You can only use it (for now)
from
uSD
card. (Unzip it  roxx !)


Right - when is it likely to be flashable?

Thanks,

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QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-30 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,

Is v36 supposed to be working?  I can't boot and I just get a blank 
screen . .


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Re: QtMoko v36 - working?

2011-10-30 Thread Philip Rhoades

Joif,

I used:

dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v35.bin
dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D qtmoko-debian-v35.ubi
dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi-v35.udfu

I keep all my data on the SD card so it isn't touched by a re-install 
(I just need to symlink things).


Thanks,

Phil.


On 2011-10-31 02:46, fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote:

I'm using it without problem on the uSD. Did you install it on the
internal memory? which bootloader?
Joif

Il 30/10/2011 15:16, Philip Rhoades ha scritto:

Radek,

Is v36 supposed to be working?  I can't boot and I just get a blank 
screen . .


Thanks,

Phil.



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Re: QtMoko v36 - working? - correction

2011-10-30 Thread Philip Rhoades

That should have been 36 for everything (i had to re-install 35).


On 2011-10-31 02:46, fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote:

I'm using it without problem on the uSD. Did you install it on the
internal memory? which bootloader?
Joif

Il 30/10/2011 15:16, Philip Rhoades ha scritto:

Radek,

Is v36 supposed to be working?  I can't boot and I just get a blank 
screen . .


Thanks,

Phil.



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Re: Writing my own Free Plain Phone sw distro for GTA02

2011-09-22 Thread Philip Rhoades
 telephony functions, that perhaps 
if
someone came out with a new cool smartphone that browses the web, 
goes

to Facebook, does GPS, displays TV and movies, plays MP3s but can't
make a simple voice call, most users would likely never even notice 
the

last minor omission.

The non-telephony features occupy such a prominent role in the minds 
of
the designers of today's phones, in their UI design, in their 
manuals,

in their marketing and in the minds of the intended users, that the
basic Plain Phone features are some little ugly duckling tucked 
away
in the corner.  *That* is what I am rebelling against, and that is 
why
I want a Free Plain Phone distro that would make a phone do voice 
calls,
SMS, and absolutely positively nothing else: it is my form of 
expressing

protest against today's dominant smart/feature phone mentality.


learn about osmcombb,


Googled for it, found the site, read the basics - wow, that is very,
very cool!  Awesome in fact!  Definitely something to keep an eye on.


however it's not a drop-in replacement as it lacks:
*an AT command interpreter part(however they have an abandoned nuttx
port)


Yes, it clearly is nowhere near ready for production use yet.  But 
it's

still something very much worth keeping an eye on.


*any kind of certification needed for connecting to carrier networks


How would they enforce that?  Just transmit a valid-looking IMEI and
they would never know the difference, right?


still that's not so bad, the GSM modem doesn't control the CODEC(the
sound card) nor the GPS.


Yes, having no GPS in the Calypso is a very very good thing.  I have 
a

big problem with RRLP.  Of course it is still possible for Calypso to
implement E-OTD - does anyone know if Om's Calypso FW does or not?
If it does, replacing it with a future usable version of OsmocomBB
would be a good project.  But that's for the future.


battery charging is done in the kernel.


Including the intelligent logic to tell the PMIC how much current it
should draw from USB VBUS?

That's all from me for now, gotta wait for the GTA02 hardware unit to
arrive...



I agree with a lot of what you said above!  I think another reason to 
think about a plain phone is that it then should be able to be used 
easily with shell scripts to act as a SMS server ie the phone is 
connected to a Linux server - either via the USB cable or wifi and 
emails that come in via the server can be processed and sent to the 
phone which could then do some minimal processing and send the result 
out as a text message.  I know that Radek is working on something that 
might allow this in the future but a plain phone might be a better 
solution.


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QtMoko messages on the SIM card and in SQLite DB?

2011-08-24 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

Could someone enlighten me about how messages work on the FreeRunner 
with QtMoko v35?


Since I switched to QtMoko, I had accumulated about 80 sent messages 
and about 70 incoming messages.  I had set up symlinks for /root and 
/home/root to dirs in /media/card and had been backing up these dirs to 
my desktop.  On the weekend I started getting errors when I tried to 
delete messages - something about no space or another application using 
the dir.  There was no shortage of disk space (53% on the root 
partition and, coincidentally, 53% on the SD card) but after some 
effort, I gave trying to work out what was wrong and reflashed v35, 
restored symlinks to the SD dirs etc but only a few of my old messages 
are displaying - is it possible to restore them somehow from backup? Why 
did most of the old ones disappear?


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Re: QtMoko v35 - Contact - Text selects landline number

2011-07-06 Thread Philip Rhoades

Guilhem,


On Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:29:19 +0200, Guilhem Bonnefille wrote:

2011/7/6 Philip Rhoades p...@pricom.com.au:
When I am viewing a contact and want to send that person a text, 
more often
than not, the number that is selected is the landline number NOT the 
mobile
number - why is that.  If I go the other route, typing up a text 
first and
then selecting the recipient, it selects the mobile number correctly 
. .

very strange . .


Funny: I currently encounter the same problem.

To bypass: in the call screen, select the person and its right
number before selecting the SMS application.



Are you talking about clicking on the little mobile phone icon from the 
bottom left of the main screen?  When I use that and scroll down to the 
person, the only number displayed is the landline number . . but it is a 
pain to use it like that anyway - this person is at the bottom of a long 
list and it is slow to scroll all the way down - it is quicker to click 
on the letter first from the contact list.


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QtMoko v35 - Contact - Text selects landline number

2011-07-05 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

When I am viewing a contact and want to send that person a text, more 
often than not, the number that is selected is the landline number NOT 
the mobile number - why is that.  If I go the other route, typing up a 
text first and then selecting the recipient, it selects the mobile 
number correctly . . very strange . .


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Re: qtmoko and FSO

2011-06-02 Thread Philip Rhoades
Radek,


 Hi,
 for those who are interested in qtmoko running on top of
 freesmartphone.org
 framework here is some update.

 Things are going really nice. We can now use Qt binding library for FSO
 which
 is automatically generated from fso xml spec files. It means that it's
 easy to
 use existing FSO api. It is very easy to add new api (just regenerate with
 one
 command) and compiler can find any FSO API changes.

 As for integration with QtMoko i have decided to add FSO phonevendor
 plugin.
 It means that there will be libfsovendor.so plugin file and you can swith
 between current libneovendor.so and libfsovendor.so by changing one
 environment variable. All future releases will have both pluging and you
 will
 be able to switch between them.

 It seems that both FSO and qtopia phone interfaces are nicely written and
 they
 seem to fit quite well together so i expect fast progress now.

 Currently QtMoko can use FSO to register to network, print available
 operators, make and hang call. I plan to do finish the call interface,
 then
 probably start with SMS and then i can do some experimental release.

 Thanks to FSO and SHR people for great framework and for help!


Good news!  Let me know if you want any testing done once you SMS going.

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Re: Dialling INTO a wireless broadband modem with OpenMoko

2011-05-31 Thread Philip Rhoades

Timo,


On 2011-05-31 06:35, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:

Paul Fertserfercer...@gmail.com  writes:

Isn't the existing setup the same already (GPRS/HSDPA)? And with persist
option it should be pretty reliable.


I'm not sure if I would rely on persist alone. I use a combination of
hardware and software watchdogs [1] to implement reliable callback. If I
call the phone from a specific number it does not play the ringtone:
instead it hangs up and initiates a GPRS connection. When that is up it
sends the IP address and some extra information to my server.

This is quite reliable for me. I operated openmoko as an RTK-GPS base
station with this setup for months without having physical access.

[1] I use three watchdogs:

1) normal watchdog package that talks to the hardware via /dev/watchdog
2) custom perl script that verifies that the GSM is associated with a
cell
3) a custom perl script that keeps the battery charged at around 60% to
prolong its life and to also shutdown the system safely if power is lost
for and the charge drops below 20%.



This sounds like what I want to do but from the other way around - use 
the Freerunner to connect to a remote Fedora machine with a Virgin 
(Australia) mobile broadband that is connected when I leave it but 
eventually disconnects some hours or days later.  I am trying to work 
out a way of dialling back in . .


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Re: Dialling INTO a wireless broadband modem with OpenMoko

2011-05-30 Thread Philip Rhoades

Paul,


On 2011-05-28 14:49, Paul Fertser wrote:

Hi,

On Sat, May 28, 2011 at 06:59:33AM +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:

On 2011-05-28 04:25, Paul Fertser wrote:

Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au   writes:

I am wondering if it would be possible to use minicom on the
Freerunner to dial the phone number of the remote dongle, make a
connection


If CSD[1] is available from your provider, then you can do that,
right. If not, all you can do is to write some smart enough script
that would do something with the connection once it tears off (in
fact, probably simply adding persist option to pppd will suffice).


OK, I will check with VirginMobile (Australia) but if that doesn't work
I could switch to Telstra.  Are there some working scripts around to do
the PPP stuff?


There's plenty of examples for using gprs/3g under GNU/Linux the
manual way.

I assume you're already using pppd for establishing the connection
from the remote system to some host in the internet that you
control.



No - when I plug the dongle in, I just let NetworkManager find it and 
set it up.  I haven't got it in front of me now, but I think I have to 
type some sort of keyring password to allow the connection?




I think simply adding persist lcp-echo-failure 10
lcp-echo-interval 5 options to its config (/etc/ppp/options or
/etc/ppp/peers/yourpppdscript  or some other way specific to how you
start pppd) should be enough.



I want to make the connection from the other direction - from my normal 
F14 desktop TO the remote Virgin mobile broadband dongle F14 machine.


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Re: Dialling INTO a wireless broadband modem with OpenMoko

2011-05-30 Thread Philip Rhoades

Paul,


On 2011-05-31 03:42, Paul Fertser wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 03:24:49AM +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:

I assume you're already using pppd for establishing the connection
from the remote system to some host in the internet that you
control.


No - when I plug the dongle in, I just let NetworkManager find it and
set it up.  I haven't got it in front of me now, but I think I have to
type some sort of keyring password to allow the connection?


I would guess it's highly unlikely NM doesn't use pppd for establishing the
connection.


I think simply adding persist lcp-echo-failure 10
lcp-echo-interval 5 options to its config (/etc/ppp/options or
/etc/ppp/peers/yourpppdscript   or some other way specific to how you
start pppd) should be enough.


I want to make the connection from the other direction - from my normal
F14 desktop TO the remote Virgin mobile broadband dongle F14 machine.


Without CSD the most reasonable option imho would be to keep a persistent
connection over GPRS to some internet host you control and use it as a proxy.
An alternative would be to establish GPRS connection upon an incoming (voice)
call or message but that'd be more complex and fragile to set up.



The GPRS connection is just as likely to drop out as the existing setup 
isn't it?


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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-05-27 Thread Philip Rhoades

giacomo,


On 2011-05-25 20:26, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:

On 05/04/2011 08:45 PM, Philip Rhoades wrote:

giacomo,


On 2011-05-03 01:03, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:



Not sure what you mean about QX

I thought that x11vnc could stay for: vnc for x11, i.e. vnc for qx.
But it does not work in qx even, at least for me.


- what I do is:

- from my desktop ssh to neo:

ssh 192.168.0.202

- and then start my script:

./px11vnc.sh

- from another window on my desktop run:

vncviewer 192.168.0.202

my Neo display then shows up on my desktop and as long as I keep the
mouse pointer in the Neo window I can type into text messages etc from
the desktop machine.

I do exactly the same, but I can't input...


Does that help?

No, but thanks alike.



Hmmm . . not sure what else I can suggest . . and clicking with the
mouse on Neo icons definitely doesn't work either?

Phil.

Hi Phil,
I installed a new OS (kubuntu 11.04) and a new vnc client (krdc) and I
tried x11vnc again.

I obtained similar results, with the same problem, but I noticed an
error (new?):

25/05/2011 12:05:02 pipeinput: starting: ./qt_tslib_inject_kbdhack.pl...
Can't locate ./kbdhack.pl in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl
/usr/local/lib/perl/5.10.1 /usr/local/share/perl/5.10.1 /usr/lib/perl5
/usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.10 /usr/share/perl/5.10
/usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at ./qt_tslib_inject_kbdhack.pl line 36.

Have you got any idea on when I can find that file?



That is one of the file I placed on the site for download - it should be 
in the same directory with px11vnc.sh - I just have them in:


/root

and run them from there.

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Dialling INTO a wireless broadband modem with OpenMoko

2011-05-27 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

I have a remote server with a wireless broadband modem (dongle) on it 
and when am visiting the remote site I can make sure the dongle is 
connected to the provider and leave it running like that.  The 
connection usually stays up for some days - allowing me to log in to it 
remotely - but inevitably the dongle disconnects.  I am wondering if it 
would be possible to use minicom on the Freerunner to dial the phone 
number of the remote dongle, make a connection and give me a dumb 
terminal login to the server that the dongle is on.  It seems that this 
would just be a wireless version of what I used to do in the good ol' 
days with wired, acoustic modems connected to standard phone lines.  Is 
there some way to do what I want?  If it is possible, it would be a much 
nicer solution than leaving the remote dongle connected to the provider.


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Re: Dialling INTO a wireless broadband modem with OpenMoko

2011-05-27 Thread Philip Rhoades

Paul,


On 2011-05-28 04:25, Paul Fertser wrote:

Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au  writes:

I am wondering if it would be possible to use minicom on the
Freerunner to dial the phone number of the remote dongle, make a
connection


If CSD[1] is available from your provider, then you can do that,
right. If not, all you can do is to write some smart enough script
that would do something with the connection once it tears off (in
fact, probably simply adding persist option to pppd will suffice).

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Switched_Data



OK, I will check with VirginMobile (Australia) but if that doesn't work 
I could switch to Telstra.  Are there some working scripts around to do 
the PPP stuff?


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AtMoko v35 incoming SMS tone missing?

2011-05-16 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

I don't get a tone when an SMS arrives - I can't find anything on the 
phone or googling that mentions this - is this a known issue?  Am I 
missing something?


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Re: About QtMoko future

2011-05-16 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,


On 2011-05-09 21:08, Radek Polak wrote:

On Saturday 07 May 2011 17:20:50 Joif wrote:


Hi list
In the announcement of QtMoko v33 there were some discussions about the
future of QtMoko.
But to date, I have not a clear vision about the current situation and the
future of QtMoko, so I want to ask some questions to developers.
1) QtMoko is based on Qt Extended, is this Qt base still in development
or is it an ended project? I mean, the main work on QtMoko is about
bringing new and improved code or about solving bugs?


Hi, much of the questions were already answered by Timo (thanks), i will try
to add some more info.

To avoid confusion i will try to explain what QtMoko is. From historical point
of view its:

qtopia =  qt extended =  qt extended improved =  QtMoko

Please note that you cant use first three names for your projects, because they
are trademarks of Nokia, so that's why QtMoko.

 From technical point of view QtMoko is using regular Qt as framework for GUI,
networking and other nice features that Qt supports. Qt is just compiled with
custom configure switches. We can upgrade Qt from upstream and receive new Qt
features quite easily.

On top of Qt there are additional libraries for modem, bluetooth, wireless...
and programs like homescreen, dialer, bluetooth gui, media player. QtMoko is
upstream of these programs and libs. They can look like dead from the GIT
commit history, but they compile ok and are working well, so there is not much
reason to touch them.

 From my point of view there is nothing rotten in QtMoko except the build
system which is no longer working with newer Qt because QtScript has been
rewritten in upstream Qt and is no longer working in qbuild (qtmoko build
system).

There are two ways to solve it - either fix it of switch the build system to
something else - most probably cmake.


3) If FSO, how many parts of the current QtMoko have to be rewritten? Will
FSO be more difficult to use (in terms of writing new code)?


It's hard to say now, i have just started with demo application that blinks
leds and it was quite easy ;-)


4) What about Qt Mobility?


If there is anything useful there we can use it.


5) Will QtMoko still remain Debian-based? (I hope so! :) )


Sure, but not only debian, you can compile if for any rootfs. I am now using
SHR unstable for work on FSO integration.


6) Is (or will be) there a way to write new apps (or modify extisting ones)
in a relative easy way such as using Qt Creator?


I try to add QtCreator projects for all new projects and i try to make sure
the apps work also on PC where you can debug them easily. I havent looked for
more integration like automatic deploy and debugging on the device, but on the
other hand scp  gdb good enough for me.



Thanks for this detail - excuse my ignorance but how does the above fit 
into your comment about qtopiamail for SMS and getting a CLI going for 
SMSs in a future development?


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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-05-04 Thread Philip Rhoades

giacomo,


On 2011-05-03 01:03, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:



Not sure what you mean about QX

I thought that x11vnc could stay for: vnc for x11, i.e. vnc for qx.
But it does not work in qx even, at least for me.


- what I do is:

- from my desktop ssh to neo:

ssh 192.168.0.202

- and then start my script:

./px11vnc.sh

- from another window on my desktop run:

vncviewer 192.168.0.202

my Neo display then shows up on my desktop and as long as I keep the
mouse pointer in the Neo window I can type into text messages etc from
the desktop machine.

I do exactly the same, but I can't input...


Does that help?

No, but thanks alike.



Hmmm . . not sure what else I can suggest . . and clicking with the 
mouse on Neo icons definitely doesn't work either?


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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-05-02 Thread Philip Rhoades

giacomo,


On 2011-05-02 20:56, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:

On 05/01/2011 11:20, Philip Rhoades wrote:

giacomo,


On 2011-04-29 21:07, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:

 Thomas,

 Radek set me up with access and I have put the files here:

 http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/download/x11vnc/

 - sorry about the delay!

 BTW, I put a README.txt file there too but that is not displaying for
 some reason but shell script should give you enough info . .

 Regards,

 Phil.

Hello Phil,
I've just tried it: it displays correctly on my PC, but I can't input
anything with mouse nor keyboard. Am I missing something?



x11vnc behaves like twm - the pointer needs to be inside the window
for it to be active . .

Let me know if that fixes things.

Phil.

Phil,
thanks for your answer.

If I understand correctly you are speaking about QX. I was wondering if
keyboard and mouse could be used in bare qtmoko, for SMS and similar
stuffs: entering the VNC window neo:0 I see my mobile GUI, but I can
not interact with it.



Not sure what you mean about QX - what I do is:

- from my desktop ssh to neo:

ssh 192.168.0.202

- and then start my script:

./px11vnc.sh

- from another window on my desktop run:

vncviewer 192.168.0.202

my Neo display then shows up on my desktop and as long as I keep the 
mouse pointer in the Neo window I can type into text messages etc from 
the desktop machine.


Does that help?

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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-05-01 Thread Philip Rhoades

giacomo,


On 2011-04-29 21:07, giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:

  Thomas,
 
  Radek set me up with access and I have put the files here:
 
  http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/download/x11vnc/
 
  - sorry about the delay!
 
  BTW, I put a README.txt file there too but that is not displaying for
  some reason but shell script should give you enough info . .
 
  Regards,
 
  Phil.

Hello Phil,
I've just tried it: it displays correctly on my PC, but I can't input
anything with mouse nor keyboard. Am I missing something?



x11vnc behaves like twm - the pointer needs to be inside the window for 
it to be active . .


Let me know if that fixes things.

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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-04-26 Thread Philip Rhoades

Thomas,

Radek set me up with access and I have put the files here:

http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/download/x11vnc/

- sorry about the delay!

BTW, I put a README.txt file there too but that is not displaying for 
some reason but shell script should give you enough info . .


Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-03 20:12, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

It would be great !
May be Radek could put it on the QTMoko site ?

Le 03/04/2011 12:07, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Ranjit,

Keyboard access was what I paid Karl to do . . it is pretty basic with
a minor glitch . . but it works . .

If someone can tell me an appropriate place to put it for general
access, I will do that . .

Phil.


On 2011-04-03 18:04, Ranjit Pillai wrote:

Hi,

If you want to use x11vnc with qtmoko, remember that qtmoko runs on
framebuffer and not x11. I tried it with QX but couldn't make it work,
but with a simple cmd at the shell prompt
x11vnc -rawfb console  (device)
and
vncviewerip-address of server - client(laptop) was able to
connect to the x11vnc, but don't expect the keyboard access or
anything of that sort.. :)
just recorded a sample video with it ... its with v24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N76Kfc9HmQ

Rgds
Rp

On 4/2/11, Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au wrote:

Thomas,

I paid Karl to do a bit of work on it so what I have is probably a bit
different from what you have. Maybe I should put it and my startup
script on the OM web site somewhere?

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 04:10, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Thanks for this quick reply !

I could not manage to make it work.
I have apt-get installed it, configured xinetd to run it a startup
but I
can not connect with my vnc client.

Could you give me your method ?

Thanks a lot.

Thomas

Le 01/04/2011 17:40, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Thomas,

Yep - using it constantly so I can get full keyboard access for
typing
texts . .

Karl was very helpful getting the glitches sorted out - I have one
trivial problem that I can't work out but Karl is quite busy at the
moment.

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 00:59, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Hello All !

I was wondering if somebody has already tried to use x11vnc on
QTMoko ?
(http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/)

Thanks,

Thomas

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Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Rhoades

radek

On 2011-04-23 15:44, radek polak wrote:



Since:

linux-image-2.6.37-qtmoko-gta02_v34-1_armel.deb

is v34, should:

uImage.bin-2.6.37-qtmoko

be installed along with:

qi-v34.udfu

and:

qtmoko-debian-v34.ubi

? (I currently have the v35 stuff installed).


You can use it also with v35.



I tried it but then I can't get a USB connection to 192.168.0.202 . . 
which I need for x11vnc etc . .


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Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread Philip Rhoades

dmatthews,


On 2011-04-23 17:12, dmatthews.org wrote:



I tried it but then I can't get a USB connection to 192.168.0.202 .
. which I need for x11vnc etc . .


I'm finding that is problematical with the stable v35 kernel also;
the only way I can make the desktop recognize a usb0 is by rebooting
it with the phone already connected.



That definitely does not work for me on uImage.bin-2.6.37-qtmoko - I can 
watch /var/log/messages on my desktop and there is no sign of detecting 
the USB connection . .




That is not reliable either, sometimes I have to reboot the desktop
several times. Since I switched from ubuntu lucid to squeeze (on the
desktop) around the same time as going from v26 to v34/35 on the
phone, I'm not 100% on which one has the problem :)



v35 (and v34) is quite reliable for me except for a minor glitch - 
immediately after rebooting, I can make a ssh connection but then it 
almost always hangs after a few seconds.  If I reconnect again, it then 
lasts indefinitely (unless the FR goes into standby mode - which it does 
sometimes when it shouldn't - ie all the power settings are off for 
plugged in.


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Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,


On 2011-04-22 18:56, Radek Polak wrote:

On Friday 22 April 2011 09:56:07 Matthias Apitz wrote:


I'm still using my FR as my daily and only cellphone (it still runs
Om2008.9) and I'm happy with it, even if the battery is poor and lasts
only 6-8 hours. But I don't care because I nearly always have my laptop
or some external batteries in a small gadget with AA cells to charge it.


I have been measuring battery life with 2.6.37 kernel under QtMoko and after 5
days without recharging the battery was low but it still worked. So it looks
like freerunner is maybe one of the best smarphones as for battery life,



On my original battery and v34 QtMoko I was getting ~2hrs with constant 
use (playing MP3s while walking on a treadmill) so I bought two new 
BL-6C batteries (~$5 each - too cheap?).  When these batteries arrived, 
the first battery had no charge at all and the second had a little.  I 
have tested them both in standby mode:


Test#1  #2

1   11  
2   34
3   14  
4   18
5   13  
6   52

Mean12.734.7

- aren't they are supposed to last for 70 hours?

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Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-22 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,


On 2011-04-23 00:40, Radek Polak wrote:

On Friday 22 April 2011 11:04:29 giacomo 'giotti' mariani wrote:


I have been measuring battery life with 2.6.37 kernel under QtMoko and
after 5 days without recharging the battery was low but it still worked.
So it looks like freerunner is maybe one of the best smarphones as for
battery life,

Regards

Radek


WOW
When will it be available for us?


You can try package from:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Experimental/



Since:

linux-image-2.6.37-qtmoko-gta02_v34-1_armel.deb

is v34, should:

uImage.bin-2.6.37-qtmoko

be installed along with:

qi-v34.udfu

and:

qtmoko-debian-v34.ubi

? (I currently have the v35 stuff installed).

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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-04-06 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,

I have logged in to SourceForge but how do I add files here?:

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/

I should then be able to post a note on the wiki here:

  http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Download

Thanks,

Phil.


On 2011-04-04 22:15, Radek Polak wrote:

On Monday 04 April 2011 09:57:27 Philip Rhoades wrote:


Radek,

Should I email it to you or put it on the site myself?


Hi, please put it on the site if you can,

Thanks

Radek




Thanks,

Phil.

On 2011-04-03 20:12, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

It would be great !
May be Radek could put it on the QTMoko site ?

Le 03/04/2011 12:07, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Ranjit,

Keyboard access was what I paid Karl to do . . it is pretty basic with
a minor glitch . . but it works . .

If someone can tell me an appropriate place to put it for general
access, I will do that . .

Phil.

On 2011-04-03 18:04, Ranjit Pillai wrote:

Hi,

If you want to use x11vnc with qtmoko, remember that qtmoko runs on
framebuffer and not x11. I tried it with QX but couldn't make it work,
but with a simple cmd at the shell prompt
x11vnc -rawfb console   (device)
and
vncviewerip-address of server  -  client(laptop) was able to
connect to the x11vnc, but don't expect the keyboard access or
anything of that sort.. :)
just recorded a sample video with it ... its with v24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N76Kfc9HmQ





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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-04-04 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,

Should I email it to you or put it on the site myself?

Thanks,

Phil.


On 2011-04-03 20:12, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

It would be great !
May be Radek could put it on the QTMoko site ?

Le 03/04/2011 12:07, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Ranjit,

Keyboard access was what I paid Karl to do . . it is pretty basic with
a minor glitch . . but it works . .

If someone can tell me an appropriate place to put it for general
access, I will do that . .

Phil.


On 2011-04-03 18:04, Ranjit Pillai wrote:

Hi,

If you want to use x11vnc with qtmoko, remember that qtmoko runs on
framebuffer and not x11. I tried it with QX but couldn't make it work,
but with a simple cmd at the shell prompt
x11vnc -rawfb console  (device)
and
vncviewerip-address of server - client(laptop) was able to
connect to the x11vnc, but don't expect the keyboard access or
anything of that sort.. :)
just recorded a sample video with it ... its with v24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N76Kfc9HmQ

Rgds
Rp

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Thomas,

I paid Karl to do a bit of work on it so what I have is probably a bit
different from what you have. Maybe I should put it and my startup
script on the OM web site somewhere?

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 04:10, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Thanks for this quick reply !

I could not manage to make it work.
I have apt-get installed it, configured xinetd to run it a startup
but I
can not connect with my vnc client.

Could you give me your method ?

Thanks a lot.

Thomas

Le 01/04/2011 17:40, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Thomas,

Yep - using it constantly so I can get full keyboard access for
typing
texts . .

Karl was very helpful getting the glitches sorted out - I have one
trivial problem that I can't work out but Karl is quite busy at the
moment.

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 00:59, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Hello All !

I was wondering if somebody has already tried to use x11vnc on
QTMoko ?
(http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/)

Thanks,

Thomas

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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-04-03 Thread Philip Rhoades

Ranjit,

Keyboard access was what I paid Karl to do . . it is pretty basic with a 
minor glitch . . but it works . .


If someone can tell me an appropriate place to put it for general 
access, I will do that . .


Phil.


On 2011-04-03 18:04, Ranjit Pillai wrote:

Hi,

If you want to use x11vnc with qtmoko, remember that qtmoko runs on
framebuffer and not x11. I tried it with QX but couldn't make it work,
but with a simple cmd at the shell prompt
x11vnc -rawfb console   (device)
and
vncviewerip-address of server   -  client(laptop) was able to
connect to the x11vnc, but don't expect the keyboard access or
anything of that sort.. :)
just recorded a sample video with it ... its with v24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8N76Kfc9HmQ

Rgds
Rp

On 4/2/11, Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au  wrote:

Thomas,

I paid Karl to do a bit of work on it so what I have is probably a bit
different from what you have.  Maybe I should put it and my startup
script on the OM web site somewhere?

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 04:10, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Thanks for this quick reply !

I could not manage to make it work.
I have apt-get installed it, configured xinetd to run it a startup but I
can not connect with my vnc client.

Could you give me your method ?

Thanks a lot.

Thomas

Le 01/04/2011 17:40, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Thomas,

Yep - using it constantly so I can get full keyboard access for typing
texts . .

Karl was very helpful getting the glitches sorted out - I have one
trivial problem that I can't work out but Karl is quite busy at the
moment.

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 00:59, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Hello All !

I was wondering if somebody has already tried to use x11vnc on QTMoko ?
(http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/)

Thanks,

Thomas

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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-04-02 Thread Philip Rhoades

Thomas,

I paid Karl to do a bit of work on it so what I have is probably a bit 
different from what you have.  Maybe I should put it and my startup 
script on the OM web site somewhere?


Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 04:10, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Thanks for this quick reply !

I could not manage to make it work.
I have apt-get installed it, configured xinetd to run it a startup but I
can not connect with my vnc client.

Could you give me your method ?

Thanks a lot.

Thomas

Le 01/04/2011 17:40, Philip Rhoades a écrit :

Thomas,

Yep - using it constantly so I can get full keyboard access for typing
texts . .

Karl was very helpful getting the glitches sorted out - I have one
trivial problem that I can't work out but Karl is quite busy at the
moment.

Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 00:59, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Hello All !

I was wondering if somebody has already tried to use x11vnc on QTMoko ?
(http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/)

Thanks,

Thomas

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Re: x11vnc and QTMoko

2011-04-01 Thread Philip Rhoades

Thomas,

Yep - using it constantly so I can get full keyboard access for typing 
texts . .


Karl was very helpful getting the glitches sorted out - I have one 
trivial problem that I can't work out but Karl is quite busy at the moment.


Regards,

Phil.


On 2011-04-02 00:59, Thomas Bellembois wrote:

Hello All !

I was wondering if somebody has already tried to use x11vnc on QTMoko ?
(http://www.karlrunge.com/x11vnc/)

Thanks,

Thomas

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Re: QtMoko v33 - More battery info and questions

2011-03-31 Thread Philip Rhoades

Paul,


On 2011-03-30 19:31, Paul Fertser wrote:

Hi,

On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 06:00:22PM +1100, Philip Rhoades wrote:

Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au   writes:

- Even with the dumb battery configuration, the battery charging
animated icon continues after USB (power) disconnection - should that
happen?


Provide uevent files contents for both the battery driver and
pcf50633-mbc drivers.


/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc.0/power_supply/usb/uevent

POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=usb
POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=USB
POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=1


With USB unplugged this looks like a manifistation of a bug. Please specify the
kernel version you use.



Sorry, my mistake - I had it plugged in to get easier access to the 
device . .




- The discharge rate attached for an inactive phone (with a blanked
screen) with a new, fully charged battery is not very good (~10
hours)


Keep in mind that the SoC was constantly running during that test, so
this should be ok. Normal usage assumes you use suspend-to-ram when
you do not actually interact with the device, that should give ~70
(without #1024 fix) or ~140 (with it) hours of standby time.



At the moment dim is set to 20s, display off to 50s and suspend is off -
are you saying that suspend should be set to 120s or something?  How
does that affect incoming calls?


Incoming calls should wake up the device without any issues, there's a
dedicated irq line for that.



Yes, I tested it and it worked fine.

I still have a problem with low battery life - I am testing the second 
new battery to see how that behaves and will update when I have more info.


Thanks,

Phil.

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Re: QtMoko v33 - More battery info and questions

2011-03-29 Thread Philip Rhoades

Paul,


On 2011-03-27 01:42, Paul Fertser wrote:

Hi,

Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au  writes:

- Even with the dumb battery configuration, the battery charging
animated icon continues after USB (power) disconnection - should that
happen?


Provide uevent files contents for both the battery driver and
pcf50633-mbc drivers.



/sys/class/power_supply/battery/uevent

POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=battery
POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Battery
POWER_SUPPLY_PRESENT=1
POWER_SUPPLY_STATUS=Charging
POWER_SUPPLY_VOLTAGE_NOW=387
POWER_SUPPLY_CAPACITY=55
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_FULL=85
POWER_SUPPLY_CHARGE_NOW=459000

/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc.0/uevent

DRIVER=pcf50633-mbc
MODALIAS=platform:pcf50633-mbc

/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc.0/power_supply/adapter/uevent

POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=adapter
POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Mains
POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=0

/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc.0/power_supply/usb/uevent

POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=usb
POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=USB
POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=1

/sys/devices/platform/s3c2440-i2c/i2c-0/0-0073/pcf50633-mbc.0/power_supply/ac/uevent

POWER_SUPPLY_NAME=ac
POWER_SUPPLY_TYPE=Mains
POWER_SUPPLY_ONLINE=0



- Using the methods above, both bind and unbind files exist in the
driver directory - shouldn't there be only one at any one time?  If
not, don't the files only need to be created once instead of
repeatedly each time the scripts/aliases are run?


Those files are always present in the sysfs, kernel maintains them
automatically for every driver.



Right (thanks to Neil Jerram for clarification on this as well).



- The discharge rate attached for an inactive phone (with a blanked
screen) with a new, fully charged battery is not very good (~10
hours)


Keep in mind that the SoC was constantly running during that test, so
this should be ok. Normal usage assumes you use suspend-to-ram when
you do not actually interact with the device, that should give ~70
(without #1024 fix) or ~140 (with it) hours of standby time.



At the moment dim is set to 20s, display off to 50s and suspend is off - 
are you saying that suspend should be set to 120s or something?  How 
does that affect incoming calls?


Looking at this I realise that when the device is disconnected all the 
dimming etc has stopped working even the values are set correctly . .




- Should the phone be shut down after the dumb battery is fully
charged?


No, charging is the same for gta02 battery and the dumb one, it's safe
and doesn't require manual intervention.



OK, good.

Thanks,

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QtMoko v33 - More battery info and questions

2011-03-26 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

Using:

  echo bq27000-battery.0  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/bq27000-battery/unbind
  modprobe platform_battery

allows me to check the value of:

  /sys/class/power_supply/battery/capacity

and using:

  rmmod platform_battery
  echo bq27000-battery.0  /sys/bus/platform/drivers/bq27000-battery/bind

restores the smart battery function.

I attach a graph of the resulting discharge rate of the fully charged 
Nokia BL-6C battery.


Questions:

- Even with the dumb battery configuration, the battery charging 
animated icon continues after USB (power) disconnection - should that 
happen?


- Using the methods above, both bind and unbind files exist in the 
driver directory - shouldn't there be only one at any one time?  If not, 
don't the files only need to be created once instead of repeatedly each 
time the scripts/aliases are run?


- The discharge rate attached for an inactive phone (with a blanked 
screen) with a new, fully charged battery is not very good (~10 hours) - 
I would need at least 24 hours with light usage to be able to use the 
Neo as my regular phone.  Is this battery performance typical?


- Should the phone be shut down after the dumb battery is fully charged?

Thanks,

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QtMoko new replacement battery - charging oddness

2011-03-24 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

My original Neo battery lasts about 3.5 hours from a full charge with no 
activity with QtMoko v33.  I bought replacement BL-6C batteries but when 
I plug either of them in, they appear to be charging (~20 hours) but 
when the USB is disconnected the battery icon appears to be still 
charging(!) and the Neo shuts down soon after ( 2 hours) with no 
charge.  When I reboot, I try to cat the files in:


/sys/class/power_supply/battery/

but I get No such device messages.

Any ideas about how to proceed?

Thanks,

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Re: QtMoko new replacement battery - charging oddness

2011-03-24 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,


On 2011-03-24 22:38, Radek Polak wrote:

On Thursday 24 March 2011 09:46:54 Philip Rhoades wrote:


My original Neo battery lasts about 3.5 hours from a full charge with no
activity with QtMoko v33.  I bought replacement BL-6C batteries but when
I plug either of them in, they appear to be charging (~20 hours) but
when the USB is disconnected the battery icon appears to be still
charging(!) and the Neo shuts down soon after (  2 hours) with no
charge.  When I reboot, I try to cat the files in:

/sys/class/power_supply/battery/

but I get No such device messages.

Any ideas about how to proceed?


You will need to use dumb battery kernel driver. I cant say how/if it works.

Please try:

modprobe platform_battery



Yes, I found that info eventually (the battery page needs updating).



or add platform_battery to /etc/modules so that it's loaded automatically
after reboot.



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Re: qtmoko v33

2011-03-17 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,

I just did a clean install with v33, restored my symlinks for /root 
/home/root to dirs on the SD card and everything worked perfectly!  Many 
thanks for your continuing work!  See below for comments/questions:



On 2011-03-04 17:37, Radek Polak wrote:

Hi,
i have uploaded new qtmoko v33 images to sourceforge now [1]. They are still
called experimental, because a few things are still not perfect.

For more information about qtmoko please see [2][3].

Here is list of changes since v32:

* new theme faenqo (cyberspirit)



Is this the default? - it looks the same as before - how do I change 
themes (I couldn't find the info anywhere) - ahh networking problem on 
my server - fixed now.




* qtmoko and it's applications are packaged as debian packages
* compiled natively on ARM with debian toolchain
* new web with applications and themes [4]
* applications are now installed from web browser
* new icon for installing qtmoko apps in Applications
* you can easily install new themes in appearence settings



Nice!



* fixed usb mass storage script (thanks to Alfa21)
* omhacks are installed as debian package from sid
* qmplayer installs mencoder in debian



? mplayer installed when I tried to play an audio file but mencoder is 
not installed . .




* mencoder uses ac3 codec for audio
* orange led brightness should be fixed (only in sources)
* moved all apps from qtmoko-apps git to qtmoko git
* updated docs for building and compiling

The list is quite short on how much of work it was.

Most of the effort was to package everything with debian package system. This
should be done now except for kernel which is on the list for next release.

For installing qtmoko with apt there is new line now in /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/debian/ /



I might try this next time.



Applications and themes are right now not in that repo. They can be installed
from web browser from url below [4]. Applications are put in categories, they
have tags and screenshots for easy searching and navigation. Please let me
know if you have ideas or patches for improving this. The application web is
generated from .xml files with xsltproc and bash scripts so it should be quite
easy to change look or improve it.

Btw .deb packages for most of the apps are still building right now so please
be patient - i will upload them as soon as the build is finished.

Applications in this version can be still installed with old qtopia package
system, but i am going to disable this for next release if new packaging will
be ok for you.

My plan for next version is to fix regression if you find any, package properly
also kernel and release it as stable.

Plans for future is FSO framework in qtmoko.



What will that provide?



Don't forget to try new faenqo theme or use older themes (asthromod) which
were only in git until now. They are really nice.

Thanks for supporting qtmoko



Thanks for continuing to support my Neo!

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Re: NeronGPS - fixes, map cache

2011-03-17 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,


On 2011-03-18 02:22, Radek Polak wrote:

Ji=C5=99=C3=AD Pinkava wrote:


Hi,
=20
what is status of NeronGPS? Is sthi project (somewere? in Radek's
repositery?) alive?
=20
NeronGPS sometimes segfault or just exits, where I should send patches
(if I do anny :)?
=20
In latest QtMoko v33 I does not found how to download map to cache (I
used original app from http://tvuillaume.free.fr/NeronGPS/ to do this)
I'm miss something?


Hi,
the author has his git here:

https://github.com/tvuillaume/NeronGPS/commits/master

His last work seems was support for N900. I was using for long time some ol=
der=20
version which had more features. I'll switch back to this version for qtmok=
o=20
v34. IIRC this version never segfaulted for me.

You can send patches to me against my git:

https://github.com/radekp/NeronGPS/

probably against the branch qtmoko.



I communicated with the author about an improvement (restarting trace 
after a loss and regain of a fix) but he says he doesn't have time to 
work on it any more but he was happy to help if I wanted to hack the 
code but I haven't had time either . .


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Re: faenqo

2011-02-06 Thread Philip Rhoades

Radek,


On 2011-02-07 06:18, Radek Polak wrote:

Neil Jerram wrote:


Although I have nothing but admiration for the way that Radek and his
contributors have been shepherding and improving QtMoko, I haven't
actually tried it recently because I find the default look too dull.
But your theme makes me feel like trying QtMoko again.


There is also theme called asthromod, which is very beutiful too. The problem
with themes is that they are quite big to be all in default instalation and i
tried to solve this this weekend.

My idea is to extend the appearence dialog with button or option get more
themes which will preview all themes that we have and you can install new
theme with single click. The problem is how to package them.

First i tried to make theme packages with qtopia package system which looked
promising (package was created easily), but then it turned out that this
package system can install only to /home/root/packages and needs executable
binary.

So for now my plan is to make .deb package for each theme. I started learning
debian packaging system and now i think i can do it.

While learning debian packaging i made source package of qtmoko [1]. It does
not have correct dependencies, but otherwise you can build qtmoko .deb package
on PC host for ARM target. It's also possible to modify it for ARM package on
ARM host (pass some more arguments to configure as described here [3]).

While we are at it we could probably package all other qtmoko apps as .deb
packages.



If you are going to do that, why not look at the proposed new standard 
packaging method?


http://www.itwire.com/opinion-and-analysis/open-sauce/44800-linux-distros-in-bid-for-common-app-installer

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Re: GTA04 Wiki

2011-01-18 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

I want to know how it will compare to my GTA02 . . I want a bigger 
screen but the video shows about the same size device?


Thanks,

Phil.


On 2011-01-15 02:11, Giovanni wrote:

This sounds like a good idea.

Best regards,
giovanni (aka alien jo)


On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 3:43 PM, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz
mailto:pson...@seznam.cz wrote:

Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:

  To start filling it with really useful information, please let us
know
  which pages (keyword, short description) you would expect.

Just an idea: we could write down wrong decisions that were made
during GTA02
development and that could be avoided for GTA04.

E.g.:

- the GTA03 announce was bad decision and discouraged many people
from buying
GTA02.

- GTA02 was released to public as phone without decent software
stack, which
caused negative reviews, which discouraged many potential customers.

Maybe it's too early but it would be pity to do something wrong twice.

I can see a lot of potential in GTA04 and it could be employed not
just as a
phone. I am working for company that does sofware and sells embedded
devices
and we paid a lot of money for custom ARM board with display and GSM
modem.
GTA04 could have done the job much better.

Regards

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Re: GTA04 Wiki

2011-01-18 Thread Philip Rhoades

Neil,


On 2011-01-19 08:25, NeilBrown wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:59:10 +1100 Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au  wrote:


People,

I want to know how it will compare to my GTA02 . . I want a bigger
screen but the video shows about the same size device?



The GTA04 isn't a phone (at this stage at least).  It is a replacement
motherboard for the Openmoko Freerunner.  So you use the same case, the same
display, the same touchscreen, the same battery.  Only the motherboard and
the components on it will changed.

I would love a bigger screen too, and no bevel around the screen, and a
thinner case and and and and...  But the chance of getting that as a truly
open device seems pretty slim at the moment.  So I'm happy to compromise and
get a GTA04 board to eventually put in my Freerunner case.



OK, well then I guess I want a comparison feature for feature between 
the old and the new . . is GTA04 just to replace a dead GTA02 MB?


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Phil.
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Re: GTA04 Wiki

2011-01-18 Thread Philip Rhoades

Neil,


On 2011-01-19 15:22, NeilBrown wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 14:28:52 +1100 Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au  wrote:


Neil,


On 2011-01-19 08:25, NeilBrown wrote:

On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 07:59:10 +1100 Philip Rhoadesp...@pricom.com.au   wrote:


People,

I want to know how it will compare to my GTA02 . . I want a bigger
screen but the video shows about the same size device?



The GTA04 isn't a phone (at this stage at least).  It is a replacement
motherboard for the Openmoko Freerunner.  So you use the same case, the same
display, the same touchscreen, the same battery.  Only the motherboard and
the components on it will changed.

I would love a bigger screen too, and no bevel around the screen, and a
thinner case and and and and...  But the chance of getting that as a truly
open device seems pretty slim at the moment.  So I'm happy to compromise and
get a GTA04 board to eventually put in my Freerunner case.



OK, well then I guess I want a comparison feature for feature between
the old and the new . . is GTA04 just to replace a dead GTA02 MB?

Thanks,

Phil.


I suggest you read what is available at
www.gta04.org
and
wiki.gta04.org

GTA04 is an experiment.  It might not work (you are warned that when trying
to buy).  The software certainly doesn't work completely yet.  It may never
unless you contribute.
It has a faster processor, faster graphics, 3G phone capability and assorted
other bits and pieces.

It is an 'engineering component' for people who want to experiment and
explore.  One day it might be more than that, but today is not that day.



There's not much there and it doesn't mean much to me - a tabular 
comparison would be good . .


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Phil.
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QtMoko v31 NeronGPS - trace stops after fix loss

2011-01-15 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

When I use this app and have recording On, if I go through a tunnel or 
something and lose the satellite fix, even very briefly - when I look at 
the trace of the journey later it is truncated from the point where I 
lost the fix - shouldn't the trace continue or at least start a new 
trace file?


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Phil.
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QtMoko v31 Voice Notes volume

2011-01-05 Thread Philip Rhoades

People,

Is there some way to increase the playback volume of recorded voice notes?

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Phil.
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