Idea: Mass Text Messaging
I repeatedly find myself in situations similar to this: I am at the mall with my parents and want to know if any of my friends are at the mall. I text individual friends (awkwardly) to ask if they are at the mall. Most of the time (99.99%) they are not, but still Anyway, my idea is a mass text feature that allows you to text a group of people all at the same time (with some kind of hint that the text has been sent to others) Can anyone make this happen? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea: Mass Text Messaging
Could anyone write this as an extension to the openmoko software? On Mar 4, 2007, at 5:56 PM, Dean Collins wrote: Yep piece of cake, you could set it up today (no need for Neo handset) Just code yourself a website that takes the numbers you copy into the outbound box, type your message into the message box, then enable a script to send your message to one of the many web based sms providers. You should be able to code this into a wap page that's easily accessible via any mobile (just make sure you secure access to your webserver so someone cant abuse your account). Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd [EMAIL PROTECTED] +1-212-203-4357 Ph +1-917-207-3420 Mb +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:community- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ryan Kline Sent: Sunday, 4 March 2007 6:47 PM To: OpenMoko Community List Subject: Idea: Mass Text Messaging I repeatedly find myself in situations similar to this: I am at the mall with my parents and want to know if any of my friends are at the mall. I text individual friends (awkwardly) to ask if they are at the mall. Most of the time (99.99%) they are not, but still Anyway, my idea is a mass text feature that allows you to text a group of people all at the same time (with some kind of hint that the text has been sent to others) Can anyone make this happen? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea: Mass Text Messaging
Could anyone write this as an extension to the openmoko software? I meant, would anyone write this as an extension to the openmoko software? On Mar 4, 2007, at 6:32 PM, Rod Whitby wrote: Ryan Kline wrote: Could anyone write this as an extension to the openmoko software? Yes, anyone could. That's the beauty of open source :-) -- Rod ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko featured in Mac|Life
Hey Everyone-- OpenMoko's Neo1973 was featured in Mac | Life's March Issue in an article titled A Tale of Three Smartphones ...we temporarily forgot that two other touchscreen smartphones had previously been announced: LG's Prada phone and the Neo1973 smartphone, manufactured by Taiwan-based FIC and developed by OpenMoko, an open-source mobile movementwhile the OpenMoko device is a linux geek's you-know-what-dream... It also has a nice chart comparing iPhone, Neo1973, and PRADA. There is also an online editorial: http://www.maclife.com/article/ is_three_a_crowd_in_the_touch_screen_phone_arena'' enjoy, -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
George Washington Sports OpenMoko in Gizmodo Chart!
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/19/what-tech-would-the-presidents- rock-in-2007/ Scroll to the bottom category and you will find that if Washington was alive today he would in fact sport a sleek, stylish Neo1973!!! -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RePost: What to install for OpenMoko programming...(Was: Help: Getting an OpenMoko Programming Environment Set Up on Ubuntu Linux)
Community- I know I already posted this, but I think it got forgotten in the wave of excitement accompanying the source release. I would really like to know what I need to do to have everything I would need to program for OpenMoko (Mostly UI Stuff). I have already installed OE using the tutorial on their website. I have a very basic programming knowledge so please be specific. I am running Ubuntu Linux off of VMWare Fusion Beta off of A MacBook Pro running OS X Tiger. Thanks, ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Help: Getting an OpenMoko Programming Environment Set Up on Ubuntu Linux
Hello Everyone-- With all the excitement over all the new OpenMoko information, I am utterly confused about what I need to set up on my Linux VM to get me ready to program (even though i don't know how) for OpenMoko. I have already installed OpenEmbedded using the tutorial on the linuxtogo wiki (now on the OE website). I have an extremely basic knowledge of working with this stuff, so be as specific as possible. Thank you for all your previous help. -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Update: Problems installing OE on Linux
Okay-- BTW I am following this tutorial: http://www.linuxtogo.org/gowiki/OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded/ SettingUpOEForUbuntu I got Boost installed and I am cruising along. Will update again if I have trouble. Thank you for all your help. -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
References: And please use a emailclients with working Reference Re: gmail users CC'ing
S: Small hint: Your Email hasn't a working References: or In-Reply-To: in its header, so no email client could put it into the right thread. Please check if you can answer with Referneces. I'm new to forums, etc. Could someone post a tutorial on using Apple mail for refereces, etc. -ryan___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
More Problems installing OE on Linux
Hey-- Now I am stuck trying to obtain BitBake. Terminal doesn't recognize svn command, what should I use? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: More Problems installing OE on Linux
Now I am stuck trying to obtain BitBake. Terminal doesn't recognize svn command, what should I use? sudo apt-get subversion Did you mean: sudo apt-get install subversion? That seems to work Thanks, Ryan On Feb 13, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Joe Pfeiffer wrote: Ryan Kline writes: Now I am stuck trying to obtain BitBake. Terminal doesn't recognize svn command, what should I use? sudo apt-get subversion ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
New Topic: Community List Privacy Concerns
I may be being a bit paranoid, but with all this online predator stuff going on, I am a bit concerned about my privacy within the list. For example, although you must be a member of the list to view a list of all list subscribers, anyone can view the list archives which include our emails with each post. Is there a way that the archives could be Subscriber-Only? I would feel a bit more secure that only 845 people can access my name and email. -ryan (who just got OE installed, finally! but has no idea what to do with it!) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko
Thanks for all your help. video ringtones are not programs - they are just video animations. You can do them in graphic programs. I know that the actual video is not a program, but I would like to develop a program that plays the videos when you get a call. if you focus on graphic applications (Photoshop, Gimp, 3D Studio Max, Blender) you may do this by contributing themes, backgrounds etc I have photoshop, so thats probably a good start. I guess I should wait to get a Neo, so I will know what to tweak. -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 1:56 AM, Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: 2007/2/12, Ryan Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I would really like to contribute to OpenMoko by writing some Hi Ryan! Thank you for your eagerness to help OpenMoko! As you may know already Neo1973 is a phone with Linux and X-Window (GUI applications are written in GTK+ toolkit). So basicaly all rules of making programs for Linux and GTK+ will apply to Neo1973. There are, of course some hardware limitations (screen size, memory, processor, etc). I suggest you try googling for linux programming howto, gtk+ howto etc. This would be the good point to start. What I would like to write: -Graphically cool looking programs like video ringtones that have some kind of really cool animation that plays when you get a call. video ringtones are not programs - they are just video animations. You can do them in graphic programs. -Tweaks to the UI to make it look really cool This is not trivial (on applications level) but if you focus on graphic applications (Photoshop, Gimp, 3D Studio Max, Blender) you may do this by contributing themes, backgrounds etc. -A program that allows you to use MP3s as ringtones I am sure that somebody with more experience will do this or it is already implemented ;) Maybe focus at creating MP3 ringtones? Writing app that plays mp3 is actually good excersise (if you use specialized library to play mp3) and you may find plethora of examples of such application. Good luck! cayco ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges
You have 845 people subscribed to this list who all support what you do 100%. Delays just make us want one more. All interested developers can purchase Neos starting late March. Do you have to be a developer to purchase in March? I am going to try to learn GTK+, but I doubt I will call myself a developer by then. Keep up the great work. -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:17 AM, Sean Moss-Pultz wrote: Dear Community, We, the OpenMoko Team, have promised exciting news about our project today. We have some information that we think you will like very much, but also have some news we like less. Let us first address the unpleasant part, before turning to the more cheerful part of this announcement. After we announced OpenMoko last November, we were flooded with emails. Most were absolutely encouraging, thanking us for undertaking this project. And out of the many thousands of emails, only two requests came again and again: Where's bluetooth? And, Why doesn't it have WiFi? (We really do read _everything_ you write.) Originally, bluetooth was in our product spec, however, this was left out of our schematics in an early stage. At the time we were really hurting for resources internally, so we did not push. Making changes to a product while in the RD stages can be quite painful. But after all the incredible demand, post-November, we felt it had to be done. We had a string of bad luck that really hurt our productivity. Each hardware revision takes at least one month of time. Each month without stable hardware means serious delays for software. One time we received the wrong memory from our vendors and we failed to catch this before production. Another time some key components ran out of supply. And as if all that wasn't bad enough, our baseband leader's mom died leaving a gaping wound in both his heart and our hardware team. But we moved on. Little by little our hardware started to come together. Around the middle of January we thought we finally found a stable revision. At this point, our software was seriously behind schedule, but as Alan Cox once said, Free Software is always late. January's announcement bought us more time to fix some hardware issues still plaguing us. We also modified the position of the bluetooth module to make way for a JTAG port (we're trying our best to be hacker friendly). This required our vendor to design a special FPC to connect the module to our board. Something on the order of 3 weeks would be required to complete this simple task. One thousand little Murphy's seems to be what we have running around teasing this project. Less than a 7% yield rate is all that we got out of this new cable; not even enough to meet our Phase 0 demand. Needless to say, it was an incredibly depressing day for all of us. Tormented is really the only word that we can think of now to describe how we are feeling as a team, forced with making this decision: Do we delay again, wait for the hardware and software to be ready, or do we just open up now as promised without reaching our key milestone? Each of us, in different ways, have struggled with this decision for the past five days. We're all extremely demanding of ourselves when it comes to the quality of our work. Nearly every minute of our waking lives have been spent on this project. So to be at this state, now, is really hard on us. Mickey Lauer, one of our core developers sent an email, only a few hours ago, that put things back into perspective for us. He said, A lot of people will be disappointed by the state of the software, but -- I may be a dreamer -- I prefer rough and truly open solutions (where I have the chance to help shaping the future) over cool, but already finished and closed solutions (where all I can do is take the platform as it is or NOT.) As planned, we are going to open this project up at this point. Within three days of this announcement you will all have access to our source code, Wiki, and Bugzilla. Hopefully you can understand why we're at this less-than-ideal state. But more importantly, we hope you understand that opening our code now, and letting you join us in making this dream of an open phone platform come true, is more important for us than mere appearances. Regarding our Neo1973 hardware, we will send out the first batch of phase 0 phones out around the end of this month. Sorry for not being able to give an absolute date. Next week is Chinese New Year (we're in Asia remember) and _everyone_ stops working for a full week. Having our newly designed FPC built before is really wishful thinking. All interested developers can purchase Neos starting late March. Please understand that phase 0 is a system of checks and balances, so it simply cannot be rushed. We want to get the framework right, the first time around. Hopefully you all can live with the slight delays in our schedule. We're all super excited to be cranking again and eagerly await sending
Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)
I have looked at numerous websites and I am still very confused about what I need to write stuff for OpenMoko (Mostly UI). I use Mac OS X, and I don't have a whole lot of prior coding experience. I learn pretty quickly, though. Does anyone know of tutorials, etc. that will get me on the right track. I especially want to make themes for the phone. I have Photoshop, so I would probably use that for the actual tweaking, but I would have no idea how to make it run on the phone. Any help is appreciated. -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges
So I propose that all members of the Open Moko mailing lists may have a priority on purchassing a phone for testing/troubleshooting (of course) if theire is some devices left after develpppers. :):):) I'll drink to that (when i'm 21). Sounds like a really (clears throat) great idea. -ryan___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)
VMWare does not support OS X. Can you be more specific about Ubuntu, what I am supposed to get exactly. I've heard of C++, what is the best way to get started? What is Python? For my mockups, should I just use the example pics from the press release? Thanks, ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:55 AM, Andrew Turner wrote: Hi Ryan, I understand where you're coming from. Right now the process of getting up and running developing for the Neo1973 isn't straight-forward - especially for a new coder. This is for a bunch of reasons, one of which is that the actual software isn't released yet, but will be in the near future. Once the software is released, I imagine very quickly someone can put together a VMWare or Qemu image that you could boot on your computer into a development environment. So, my suggestion would be to go ahead and grab a free copy of VMWare player and grab the Ubuntu image (google for it) and get that running (should be very straightforward). For programming, you'll need to start to get up and running with C++. That's a fairly daunting task, but if you want to do real programming for the Neo, you'll need to know how to program in C++, or possibly Python. With regards to themes - not sure how they'll be configured, though probably using similar theming in GTK+ now. You can probably start by just doing Photoshop mockups at the nominal resolution on what you think they'll look like. Hope that helps get you started in a couple of directions. :) Andrew On 2/12/07, Ryan Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked at numerous websites and I am still very confused about what I need to write stuff for OpenMoko (Mostly UI). I use Mac OS X, and I don't have a whole lot of prior coding experience. I learn pretty quickly, though. Does anyone know of tutorials, etc. that will get me on the right track. I especially want to make themes for the phone. I have Photoshop, so I would probably use that for the actual tweaking, but I would have no idea how to make it run on the phone. Any help is appreciated. -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Andrew Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED]42.4266N x 83.4931W http://highearthorbit.com Northville, Michigan, USA ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Still not getting it...(was: New Topic: Learning how to write for OpenMoko)
Woah! That's a lot of information. Let me try to peice it together: I have both a PPC and an Intel-Mac, Do I just download the Linux VMWare? It doesn't seem to have support for Os X. What is OE/BB? Are you saying i need to program in a Linux environment? Thanks, ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 9:21 AM, Michael Dickens wrote: Ryan - Someone suggested getting VMWare setting up a Ubuntu VM ... this is a -great- suggestion since you're running OSX, -if- you have an Intel-Mac. If you have a PPC-Mac, then this is not an option (AFAIK), and you'll need to either (1) install Linux on another hard drive / partition and direct boot into it (which might require hacking the firmware), or (2) use OE/BB directly on OSX. While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux; Apple provides some GNU tools, but some are Apple-specific (e.g. libtool is Apple-specific on OSX, and thus with using GNU libtool many folks rename it glibtool etc). For the second option, I'd recommend using MacPorts to install the background stuff for OE/BB. I'm actually trying to get OE/BB working on OSX in parallel with doing it on a VM running Ubuntu (the VM already won this competition, but I'm still working on the OSX side). Ubuntu provides a nice and simple setup / configuration that doesn't require a lot of in-depth knowledge of Linux (unless you want to go there). Setting up OE/BB inside the VM is as simple as following the instructions on the Wiki http://www.linuxtogo.org/ gowiki/OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded/SettingUpOEForUbuntu ... really, I just did it last night running Ubuntu 6.10 on a VM on an Intel- iMac. I created 'nano', and can copy it to my local ARM-based TS-7300, and it runs just fine ... very cool! Being an OSX user myself, both at home and school, I'm happy to provide whatever reasonable assistance I can to other OSX users. While I don't have a lot of experience under Linux, I do have plenty of experience on various Unix flavors and MacOS from 5 to current - both as programmer and user (from setting up the MMU to device drivers to CLI applications to GUIs). Good luck! - MLD ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installer Package OE.pkg for MacOS X?
Oh please do!! And while you are at it, could you make one for Linux, I just installed it. -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 10:58 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: Michael, While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux shouldn't we just join forces and craft an Installer package for getting OE installed directly on a Mac? IMHO, needing to install some VM and a full Linux one of the best *ix machines just because Linux developers have the tendency to invent an then use a lot of not well documented command line tools you have never heared of is some overkill... Distributing an OE.pkg would be much better... The main idea is: * make a shell script (called as preinstall) that creates a case sensitive /Developer/OE.sparseimage (fixed location so to avoid confusion) * get all the additional command line tools it needs to /opt/local/ bin from Fink or OpenDarwin (either load at install time or provide some stable binaries) * provide the basic files needed in the stuff directory * wrap that all into an installer .pkg file by using PackageMaker So, you download OE.pkg, and double click. This will install everything and leave you with /Volumes/OE as your stuff directory. The problem I have: http://www.openembedded.org/wiki/BuildOnOSX describes everything but I understand only half of it. Nikolaus Am 12.02.2007 um 16:21 schrieb Michael Dickens: Ryan - Someone suggested getting VMWare setting up a Ubuntu VM ... this is a -great- suggestion since you're running OSX, -if- you have an Intel-Mac. If you have a PPC-Mac, then this is not an option (AFAIK), and you'll need to either (1) install Linux on another hard drive / partition and direct boot into it (which might require hacking the firmware), or (2) use OE/BB directly on OSX. While one -can- get OE/BB running under OSX, at least theoretically, it's not as simple as doing it under Linux; Apple provides some GNU tools, but some are Apple-specific (e.g. libtool is Apple-specific on OSX, and thus with using GNU libtool many folks rename it glibtool etc). For the second option, I'd recommend using MacPorts to install the background stuff for OE/BB. I'm actually trying to get OE/BB working on OSX in parallel with doing it on a VM running Ubuntu (the VM already won this competition, but I'm still working on the OSX side). Ubuntu provides a nice and simple setup / configuration that doesn't require a lot of in-depth knowledge of Linux (unless you want to go there). Setting up OE/BB inside the VM is as simple as following the instructions on the Wiki http://www.linuxtogo.org/ gowiki/OpenMoko/OpenEmbedded/SettingUpOEForUbuntu ... really, I just did it last night running Ubuntu 6.10 on a VM on an Intel- iMac. I created 'nano', and can copy it to my local ARM-based TS-7300, and it runs just fine ... very cool! Being an OSX user myself, both at home and school, I'm happy to provide whatever reasonable assistance I can to other OSX users. While I don't have a lot of experience under Linux, I do have plenty of experience on various Unix flavors and MacOS from 5 to current - both as programmer and user (from setting up the MMU to device drivers to CLI applications to GUIs). Good luck! - MLD ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges
That does seem to make more sense. I guess I should have said, I'll drink [juice] to that! -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 3:07 PM, ROB wrote: Not that it matters all that much, but I think he was telling you that you didn't have to wait 8 years to drink to the project because you can always toast something with a non-alcoholic drink. I don't think he was trying to encourage you to drink alcohol, he was just saying that if you have the chance to meet up with people associated with the project sometime, they would probably be quite happy to have you toast the project with them with a non-alcoholic drink. On 2/12/07, Ryan Kline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, I will wait. People who drink before they are 21 are 4 times more likely to become alcoholics, plus, I get 5,000 USD +Interest if I make it til I am 21. I think I will wait. I do understand that this community drinks, but I do not feel pressured to do the same. Thank you for complementing my first post, please note I have also mad many others and even answered a question. (http:// lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/003151.html) I do hope that I will be an asset to the project because of my age. I am very interested in technology and I am keen on what kids here in the states go crazy over. For exaple, the Apple Stores here are packed non-stop with teens. I also would love to see some kind of Push-To-Talk or Mass-Text-Messaging included in OpenMoko. I have found myself in many situations where I would like to know if any of my friends are at the mall. I also am very good with videography and would lend my services to OpenMoko if they would pay for my plane ticket :-) I even tried to get a discount for being the youngest on the forum. (http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-February/ 003155.html) I guess that didn't work very well. -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
You don't have to wait 8 years ; ) Re: [openmoko-announce] OpenMoko Challenges
Sorry, I didn't understand. Where is FOSDEM? I doubt I will be able to attend any events unless they are in Dallas. I have too much going on in school and I don't really feel like I am part of the project. Thanks, ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Windows Mobile on Neo?
What's wince? Do you know anything about Neo-Windows Mobile? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
(for joe) Problems Installing OE on Linux
I am trying to install OE on Ubuntu 6.10 and I am having trouble installing monotone. I was told to ask Joe how he solved this problem: In the terminal, I type: wget http://www.venge.net/monotone/downloads/monotone_0.32-0.1_i386.deb Which works fine, then: sudo dpkg --install monotone_0.32-0.1_i386.deb Which returns error messages about some boost dependencies. Help... -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Windows Mobile on Neo?
Thanks, I'm just being too lazy. Im pretty scared about this OE thing because I am running Linux on VMWare Beta, on my brand new 17 MacBook Pro...Should I be worried? -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Problems installing boost pkgs for OE (Was: Problems installing OE on Linux)
After trying to install OE, I concluded that I needed boost. I typed sudo dselect then went to select then tried to search boost but returned no results. Any help appreciated. -ryan P.S.-Sorry if I have been posting too much over the last few days, I have become engrossed in the project and I want to know as much as possible. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Worry about OE in VM on OSX?
The MacBook Pro is plenty powerful enough to handle what you're doing. Yup, and I've got two gigs of RAM. Now if you want to bitbake world then I'd recommend a 40 GB VM HD ... just to cover your bases. What is all this, world stuff. I've seen hello world also, is it like a system? Thanks to everyone who has replied to my posts. You have all been very helpful. Much more accepting than Apple Discussions. -ryan On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Michael Dickens wrote: On Feb 12, 2007, at 8:17 PM, Ryan Kline wrote: Thanks, I'm just being too lazy. Somewhat, but you're also learning. For most things, try google (or whatever your favorite search engine is) first, read through a few hits, and then if it's still confusing ask the list. Many of your non- or semi-technical questions can be answered that way. Im pretty scared about this OE thing because I am running Linux on VMWare Beta, on my brand new 17 MacBook Pro...Should I be worried? There is really nothing to worry about. VMware's Fusion is an App that doesn't modify the OS in any significant (i.e. irreversible) way; you can always uninstall it if you want and you're good to go just like it wasn't there (except maybe a pref or 2 that are harmless). As for the VM hard drive, it's just a file that resides on the OSX hard drive. You can delete it if you want to, anytime you want to. If you were running Windows in your VM, then you might worry since even with the latest patches it's pretty easy to compromise your Windows box if you happen to download certain torrents from certain WWW sites. But running Linux in your VM is quite safe - at least as safe as running OSX as your host OS. As a VM user, my primary concerns are (1) that I have enough DRAM on the host computer to support both running - 512 MB per user per OS is good these days under OSX; (2) that the host hard drive is big enough - but pretty much any HD will be big enough these days ... the VM HD really needs only maybe 20 GB or so for most usual things. Now if you want to bitbake world then I'd recommend a 40 GB VM HD ... just to cover your bases. The MacBook Pro is plenty powerful enough to handle what you're doing. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Attaching accessories (was: OpenMoko Challenges
Wouldn't it be hilarious if we finally find a USB power solution after spending many hours laboriously building a device only to find that Sean has decided to power the USB port. -ryan (always eager to add humor to the subject) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Statistics
Martin-- If you go to the main site for this list (https://lists.openmoko.org/ mailman/listinfo/community) and scroll to the bottom of the page where it says community Subscribers, you can enter your email and password and view a list of everyone subscribed to the community list. Hope this helps! -Ryan (Wow, I actually partially answered a question. I'm only 13, what the heck?) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo/OpenMoko Desktop Background (this is a new topic, but I don't know how to make it look like a new topic.)
I got bored today and ended up making this OpenMoko desktop background in Photoshop: 800x600: http://img267.imageshack.us/my.php?image=openmoko800x600bc2.jpg 1024x768: http://img402.imageshack.us/my.php?image=openmoko1024x768dx3.jpg 1280x1024: http://img413.imageshack.us/my.php?image=openmoko1280x1024tx1.jpg Enjoy!! -ryan___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Get your own OpenMoko T-Shirt
Daniel-- Those are some nice looking shirts! What is the price for a T-Shirt in USD? Is it possible to buy one with USD? Great Job! -ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Neo Recycling Program (not too important, but something to think about...)
Being an Apple customer, I hate to buy Apple products because i know that my product will be updated very shortly after my purchase. With OpenMoko, I really, really, want the first generation Neo, but, Sean has already set a target release date for the 2nd generation of the phone. I am so conflicted. So, I propose a Neo Recycling Program in which any of the Neo phones could be returned to FIC/OpenMoko in exchange for the current generation of the phone. Of course, there would be a fee involved, based on the condition and life of the phone, but, you would still not have to pay the full price of the new phone. The old Neo's would then be refurbished and resold through FIC. Just something think about. -Ryan___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
If you receive a Neo...
Hey everyone-- It is almost Feb. 11th here in Dallas and I was thinking that it would be great if the developers that receive Neos tomorrow or in the coming days would post pictures/video to the discussion. Being a non- developer, I am so eager to see the phone and its interface. I envy those that get one, but enjoy!!! Thanks, Ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
OpenMoko with Apple?
I just wondered if anybody had any reason to think that the phone will not work as well with Macs as it does with PCs. I want one bad, It is February, right??? Thanks, Ryan ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org https://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
