Re: Free Runner price vs iphone 3G price
On Tue, 2008-06-10 at 18:08 -0700, ian douglas wrote: > Robert Taylor wrote: > > > If you want to compare the total cost, compare the total cost of buying > > the new iphone UNLOCKED at retail cost (you can't) plus the data package > > and THEN we can talk. > > But the consumer isn't asked to pay the full unlocked price of the > iPhone. Just because AT&T subsidizes the phone by lessening the profit > they make on the $100/month you'll pay them for using their service, the > consumer isn't paying "more" for the phone since they'd still have to > pay for the same voice/data service to use a Freerunner. It just means > AT&T makes more profit on the voice/data plan because they haven't > subsidized anything. > > And you still haven't followed up with how you calculated the iPhone to > cost 'twice' as much as the Freerunner. > I took the following approach (I am in The Netherlands): compare the price difference for a 24month contract with or without an iPhone (16GB) (Yes this is not the new one, but i suspect it will not differ too much). Price for 24 mo with iPhone: 719,- eur with HTC Touch Diamond (just for comparison): 541,- without phone: 163,10 eur ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [GSM] Geolocating
On Wed, 2008-04-23 at 14:17 +0200, Marc-Olivier Barre wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:57 PM, Lucas Bonnet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hello guys, > > > > during one of my presentation of the Openmoko project, I mentionned > > the ability to know which GSM cell the Neo is connected to. This allows > > some approximate geolocating, provided you know the position of the GSM > > cells. It could be useful in an urban environment, where GPS isn't very > > helpful (walls, narrow streets, etc.). > Well the key concept here is "provided you know the position of the > GSM cells". Now, you might try to call you operators customer support > asking them "Hi, could you send me a copy of your hardware database > please ?", but I doubt you would get a positive answer, *if* they even > bother to answer... I think http://celldb.org/ is trying to solve this problem. Sander ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko sounds, Motto
On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 23:13 +0200, ramsesoriginal wrote: > I recalled there was already some discussion about this, and after > reading through something like 300 mails ( xD ) i found this thread: > http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2007-July/007112.html > > So, free your phone could be dangerous. What about: Pay 399 and get a free phone :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
