Re: Switch to newsgroup
Eric van Horssen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Niels L. Ellegaard wrote: You can already read all the openmoko mailing lists as nntp (also known as newsgroups) at www.gmane.org. http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community My provider doesn't have this group, allthough it does have some gmane.* groups Because of technical reasons Gmane doesn't peer with other news servers, so you'll have to use nntp.gmane.org (no authentication needed). ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: email vs forum
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not trying to prove something -- trying to give benefit of long experience in similar situations. Email is substantially more efficient, because it is intrinsically more powerful. For example: 8) Staying in touch directly with the community from my OpenMoko phone in a year using an expensive GPRS connection: - E-Mail: Loading everything via POP3 or even better compressed UUCP on my phone, reading with my favorite mail client that suits the display. Uses minimum bandwidth and I can cut the connection after loading mail. Cheap. - Web forum: Suffer with the web browser on a forum design not suitable to the small display. Using tons of bandwidth for every request, staying online all the time. Really expensive. Sebastian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: email vs forum
ramsesoriginal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -E-mail: loading hunderts of e-mails with questions that have been discuted at least 300 times and hunderts of flaming e-mails, and maybe dozends of i need this and that app e-mails, just to see that there's no kews in the development of the navigation system (the info you where looking for) -Webforum: click on a shortcut in the favorites, log in, jump to category application development - navigation system, seeing that there's nothing new, closing the connection. Just that a few page views on a heavily bloated forum web site already means more traffic than a bzip2-compressed UUCP batch of 300 mails. And still, if you just only want to quickly view if there are new messages on the server, you're free to use IMAP. Sebastian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OK, the forum is coming..
Ortwin Regel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't like the tree style of discussion. It kind of makes sense on a mailing list. However, I find it unnatural and exhausting to navigate. Old school people who prefer threaded view have got the mailing list, I am of the strong opinion that we should go with a flat forum for accessibility. Nobody forces you to the tree-style view. Also every email client and newsreader can also show eveything in the flat webforum-like view. The difference is that here you got a *choice*. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OK, the forum is coming..
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Niels L. Ellegaard) wrote: Joe Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: And people who remember the term usenet can even look at it with a proper news reader. I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to create an nntp gateway. See the sympy group for an example That's what Gmane is actually about. And as a good exampple that it works, all my posting in this thread actually come from gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community on news.gmane.org via NNTP. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Fwd: Re: OK, the forum is coming..]
Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that google provides nntp, but you can ask gmane to create an nntp gateway. I'm trying gmane nntp interface to community list and it doesn't support thread! all messages are ordered just by date. You're using Thunderbird, and it supports threading for mail as much as for nntp. Just click the small thread icon left over the message overview. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OK, the forum is coming..
Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sebastian Krause [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Not for me because it doesn't provide a threaded view, scoring etc. I don't understand your sentence. Forums haven't threaded view ?! Anyway... As far as I could see it in all phpBB forums until now, the messages are sorted by the date and time are posted, but by whom they're answering to. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OK, the forum is coming..
Valerio Bruno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - following a thread in a forum it's a lot simpler Not for me because it doesn't provide a threaded view, scoring etc. There's nothing more comfortable than reading this list in your favorite news reader by Gmane. - could be a central point for developers too! I hope not because it horribly uncomfortable to read. I don't really care which forum software you use, but then at least it should provide a mailing list gateway for people who don't want to use a forum. And btw, you actually *can* already use this list as a web forum if you want, and actually in a really comfortale way: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community So why splitting up everything into two worlds? Sebastian ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: OK, the forum is coming..
Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess asking for a forum -- NNTP gateway would be asking too much? No: http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.handhelds.openmoko.community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
