Re: Alarmclock puzzle
http://www.thinkgeek.com/homeoffice/lights/9171/ ;-) Ian Darwin wrote: Ian Darwin wrote: Way off-topic, but the best alarm clock I've ever seen is one that shoots a little flying disc out of the top when the alarm goes off. You have to get out of bed, find the disc (perhaps this would encourage my daughter to clean up her room before going to bed?), and insert it correctly in the clock in order to shut the alarm off. I laugh every time I think of this thing. Innovative, practical, and fun. Where can I buy one of those? D'oh! Answer my own posting. I must have just woken up :-) http://search.ebay.com/flying-alarm-clock 59 items found as of this morning. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: microSD support
Crane, Matthew wrote: The SD card association has limtied the size of sdhc to 32gb, the max size of a fat32 system. I just want to give a short note that this is not true. Fat32 supports partition size of up to 2TiB. Microsoft artificially limited Windows 2000 and following to be able to create Fat32 partitions of max 32GiB. Using other tools to create them (such as mkfs.vfat) it's still possible to create those partitions. And Windows reads and writes to them. Of course now that there's a reasonable stable NTFS access from Linux it doesn't matter that much anymore but a few years back this was quite a pain in the ass. just my 0.02€ Stefan No doubt there's a lot of crappy SD cards out there that don't comply well to standard interfaces though, but unless you're really really skimping there's likely nothing to worry about with any common microsd cards. You could even support larger cards because we aren't limited to fat32 on a linux phone. But has anybody found an SD card that doesn't work with existing hardware?? I only wish I had hardware so I can't test the few cards I have.. Matt From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Travis Tabbal Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 9:52 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: Re: microSD support I think he's asking if the phone will support SDHC, which is required for larger cards and many older devices do not support. Or perhaps if 8GB in particular has been tested. It would be nice to know exactly what is supported, as those 8GB cards are getting cheap lately. We might have to wait for the first phones to ship to know for sure what will or will not work. Right now, only the OM dev team at FIC could test it for sure, and they are kind of busy getting mass production going. I think I'd rather have them do that and test the microSD size limits later. On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Crane, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From wikipedia entry on current sd cards: Memory capacity = (C_SIZE+1) * 512 K = (222-1+1) * 512 K = (4194304-1+1) * 512K = 2147483648 K = 2048 GB So you're probally good. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Giorgio M. Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:53 AM To: List for Openmoko community discussion Subject: microSD support I know that freerunner will support MicroSD memory. I want know wich capacity it will support?can i use 8GB microSD?? what is the limit? thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is anyone else getting 2 or 3 copies of every mails?
I have the same problem and ironically I got this Nope, not me twice. I'm pretty sure, I did not subscribe twice, because I do not get every mail twice, only a rare few of them. I checked the headers of both mails and they seem to be identical save for the Message-Id. ([EMAIL PROTECTED] vs. [EMAIL PROTECTED]). It's pretty weird. I always thought it was just someguy accidently sending messages twice. All best, Stefan Mo Abrahams wrote: Nope, not me On Tue, 2008-05-06 at 14:56 -0700, ian douglas wrote: Hey all, I'm randomly getting a second and sometimes a third copy of messages coming to the list. For exampe, Torfinn Ingolfsen's last Email with a subject line Re: Software -- I got three copies. I also got three copies of Bradley Hook's message about the external displays, but only one copy of Gabriel Ambeuhl's Email in the same thread. Anyone else seeing this? This doesn't affect any other mailing list or personal messages coming to my Email account, which helped me pinpoint that it's an issue with the OpenMoko community list. Thanks, Ian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Multi-Level Markting - Is OpenMoko interested in?
Hello Roland, while I think that the OpenMoko should get more attention in the media I don't think it's a good idea to use all methods you mentioned. An affiliate program (e.g. via zanox) would be a great idea but forced clicks and paid mails are dubious advertising methods at best. IMHO the Freerunner should get a more *honest* (in lack of a better word) advertising than that. Also I think that as long as the software is not end-user friendly it's better to stick to word-of-mouth advertising plus technology geared media. Take care, Stefan Roland Häder wrote: Hi together, as the subject said I'm asking here if OpenMoko is interested in multi level marketing? You can read about the basics on Wikipedia if you don't know it. :) My friend and I have a (German) Internet marketing platform with about 800+ registrations. We have a lot different ways of marketing there. Here are only some examples: - Mails directly delivered to our members - Click mails where they have to login to get their reward - Banners (forced-click banner and rotation banners) - Textlinks - An AdSense-like system (in planing phase) - 1 Euro for a 88x31 or textlink for one year - Bonus campaigns (a bit like button or textlink promotion) - Sign up actions If you like I can send you the link directly not here in mailing list. And have you heard about Zanox? Best regards, Roland Haeder PS: I have CC-ed Trisoft and my friend. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bulk order
Try here: http://freeyourphone.de/forum/index.php?topic=44.0 :) Andre Lanvermann wrote: btw, is there a german group order running? I would like to participate ;-) Greetings Phanti steve schrieb: -- Go direct, harry will handle your request *From:* Flemming Richter Mikkelsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:35 AM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Cc:* steve *Subject:* bulk order Hello Steve. Will it be possible for us in Europe to make a bulk order directly from Openmoko or do we need to shop from TRIsoft. I will order 20 Freerunners, and can save much money by ordering directly from OM. -=Flemming=- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: bulk order
Hello Flemming, you could also try pulster.de I'm not sure about their shipping policy to other countries than Germany but they're targetting a price of 300 Euro per unit. All best, Stefan Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: Hello Steve. Will it be possible for us in Europe to make a bulk order directly from Openmoko or do we need to shop from TRIsoft. I will order 20 Freerunners, and can save much money by ordering directly from OM. -=Flemming=- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Thoughts about calls not taken
Hi, I have an idea going through my mind about rejecting phone calls. Today when I reject a call the mobile provider redirects the call to the voice box which I have to call later on to get the message. The way the voice boxes work now is really cumbersome and additionally I have to pay for it. I thought why couldn't the phone do that instead? This way we could also have a better distinction between the two cases when the voice box is used: 1. The provider cannot reach the phone (ie. out of range, or phone is turned off) 2. Called person cannot talk right now (Meeting, cinema, etc.) The first must of course still be taken by the mobile provider's voice box. But the second could be handled by an answering machine right on the phone. The calling person will be charged anyway. The message would be something along the lines: I'm sorry, but I can't take your call right now. Please leave a message after the tone and I'll call you back! This would tell the caller that he should not try again within the next 5 minutes more clearly ;) Additionally the the answering machine could have a much better interface similar to the visual voicemail on the iPhone. While I certainly don't want an iPhone clone I have to admit that this is really a neat feature. Has this service already been hacked in a way that it's possible to use this without an iPhone? It's probably tied to the iPhone and their contracts but which platform would be better suited to have this as well than the OpenMoko? :) What are your thoughts about this? Stefan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Data over normal GSM call
Hi, I just talked about this issue with a colleague who uses an HTC PDA with windows mobile. For the data connection he uses a dial-up connection as a modem. He doesn't have a data plan but a flat fee for voice calls into land lines. He says he gets about up to 4K/s which is not much of course but it's still possible to view light websites or emails with it. (I would not want to use it with Google Maps for example which is one of the key features why I would want mobile internet access.) So I don't think it's impossible. Maybe the hardware and the codecs are different on OpenMoko but I doubt that this is an obstacle that cannot be overcome. All best, Stefan ramsesoriginal wrote: By applying some sort of modulation (fm? am? psm?) it should be possible to transfere data over gsm, but on a much lower speed then through the data channel. On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Apr 08, 2008 at 10:22:10AM -0400, Dan Staley wrote: Does anyone know if it is legal (in the standard TOS) with providers (such as ATnT) to send data over a normal phone call? this is not possible, since regular voice calls for GSM are not bit-transparent, i.e. the voice signal is coded and potentially re-coded (transcoded) a number of time between the calling and receiving party. Data calls over GSM are done using CSD. They also use quite a lot more error correction than voice calls. -- - Harald Welte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://openmoko.org/ Software for the world's first truly open Free Software mobile phone ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
