Re: travel-diary a simple GPS application
Hi Christian, good to hear that the idea isn't dead! Looks far more solid than my few lines of code :-) I will give it a try this weekend. In the meantime, screenshots would be very interesting... Sven On Thursday 09 July 2009 00:00:52 Christian Rüb wrote: Hi, a while ago Sven send us his scripts to store places and some info and send all this to a server which then creates a kml file. [0] I made a litte GUI for this (actually it is more a rewrite ;-)) that you can find here: http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk It also contains a sample script to send you data to your web server via curl. To really use this you need to set up the corresponding CGIs on your server to receive your diary file and and another one to make the kml download for you visitors. You can find examples (they are a point to start - nothing more) in the doc package [2] or view/download them from the git repo [3]. For distribution integration, here is my bb recipe [4] [0] http://n2.nabble.com/Stress-test-of-my-Freerunner-tp3038658p3045050.html [1] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/shr-unstable/travel-diary-doc_0.0+git20+3d7fe3555cb57ef504daece949c7bbf5d28cdcb9-r0_armv4t.ipk [3] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=travel-diary;a=summary [4] http://git.senfdax.de/?p=oe_recipes;a=blob_plain;f=travel-diary/travel-diary_git.bb;hb=HEAD Feedback and questions welcome. Cheers, Christian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: strange df behaviour
The filesystem on it is ext3. The df program from virtualbox reports it is filled 84%. But one cannot write there, because no space is available. Outputs: r...@om-gta02 ~ $ df Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on /dev/root 252544142744109800 57% / none 6042856 60372 0% /dev shmfs60428 0 60428 0% /dev/shm /dev/mmcblk0p1 479836382001 73061 84% /media/card volatile 60428 1572 58856 3% /var/volatile r...@om-gta02 ~ $ echo tetetette /media/card/te -sh: can't create /media/card/te: No space left on device I think you run out of inodes because of maps data. Run df -i Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OM2009] airplane mode
Hi, On Saturday June 20 2009 00:35:24 Petr Vanek wrote: - in terminals, the glass has metal coating so no fix And I wasted an one hour transit delay by sitting next to the window waiting for a fix..., - during the flight, the blinds get usually shut, but you can stuck your fr right behind it (with a bit of force :) Worked for me (http://www.klomp.eu/gps.jpg) :-) - FSO has a bug in reporting the speed - you will notice in speed above 200km - check between shr settings and tango I didn't checked this. - FSO is quite unable to get a fix while in 1m altitude and (or) high speed. it sees the satelites, get's a fix and then for some reason something happens and no satelite is being seen anymore. this will repeat fo as long as you leave it. I tried with the latest SHR unstable (about 5 weeks ago) and didn't had this problem. Maybe it is fixed? Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stress test of my Freerunner
Hey Christian, On Friday 12 June 2009 13:56:32 Christian Rüb wrote: is it OK to use your code and GPL it? The license text would be longer than my source code, thus I didn't add anything ;-) GPL2 or 3 is fine for me, thanks for asking... I started building a little GUI for what you have done as a travel diary sounds like a pretty good idea to me. You can see what I have done so far here: http://git.senfdax.de/?p=travel-diary;a=summary Currently it does nothing else than requesting GPS and diesplaying the fields. bitbake recipe to follow as soon as it really does something. Great to hear that my code is somehow useful. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Stress test of my Freerunner
On Sunday June 7 2009 16:18:48 Yogiz wrote:
Thanks for the impressions. I really like the GPS diary idea. Perhaps
you should release it to the public? As to alarms, try ffalarms (opkg
install ffalarms).
I attached my code. As said, it isn't much and not very user-friendly. However,
I was surprised how few code is needed to get the idea working.
storeLocation.py:
This script is called on the FR to store the current coordinates to
locations.dat
E.g. storeLocation.py -t My Home -d This is where I live since 5 years
Please modify http://myserver.org/; to your needs.
sendLocations.sh:
All locations stored in locations.dat can be send to the server with the small
sendLocations.sh script. I used the http-get method since there was no urllib
module in SHR.
add.py:
On the server side, add.py receives the coordinates as cgi script and stores
the information to locations.dat. (I should change the name, since the content
is different to locations.dat on the FR...)
diary.kml:
This is also a cgi script written in Python which creates the kml output from
the content of locations.dat.
Have fun :-)
Sven
diary.kml
Description: application/vnd.google-earth.kml
#! /usr/bin/env python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
import cgi
import cgitb
cgitb.enable()
print(Content-Type: text/html) # Header-Info
print() # Empty line needed
form = cgi.FieldStorage()
if not (form.has_key(latitude) and form.has_key(longitude) and form.has_key(date) and form.has_key(title)):
print H1Error/H1
print Please fill in the fields.
else:
f = open('locations.dat', 'a')
if (form.has_key(details)):
f.write(form[date].value+ | + form[latitude].value+ |+form[longitude].value+|+form[title].value+|+ form[details].value+\n )
else:
f.write(form[date].value+ | + form[latitude].value+ |+form[longitude].value+|+form[title].value+|+\n )
f.close()
print OK
sendLocations.sh
Description: application/shellscript
#! /usr/bin/env python
# -*- coding: utf-8 -*-
# Logging
import logging
import sys
mainlogger = logging.getLogger()
console = logging.StreamHandler(sys.stdout)
console_formatter = logging.Formatter(%(name)s - %(levelname)s - %(message)s)
console.setFormatter(console_formatter)
mainlogger.addHandler(console)
logger = logging.getLogger()
logger.setLevel(logging.DEBUG)
import optparse
import datetime
import dbus
#import urllib
class MyOptionParser(optparse.OptionParser):
def __init__(self):
optparse.OptionParser.__init__(self,usage: %prog -t title [-d \more details\ | ... ])
self.add_option(-t,
--title,
action=store,
type=string,
dest=title,
help=Title of this location)
self.add_option(-d,
--details,
action=store,
type=string,
dest=details,
help=Detailed information of this location)
self.add_option(--longitude,
action=store,
type=string,
dest=longitude,
help=Set longitude manually)
self.add_option(--latitude,
action=store,
type=string,
dest=latitude,
help=Set latitude manually)
self.add_option(--date,
action=store,
type=string,
dest=date,
help=Set date manually)
self.set_defaults(date=datetime.date.today().isoformat())
def getCoordinates():
system_bus = dbus.SystemBus()
gps_object = system_bus.get_object('org.freesmartphone.ogpsd', '/org/freedesktop/Gypsy')
gps_interface = dbus.Interface(gps_object, dbus_interface='org.freesmartphone.Resource')
gps_interface.Enable()
gps_interface = dbus.Interface(gps_object, dbus_interface='org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position')
position=gps_interface.GetPosition()
print(position)
# gps_interface = dbus.Interface(gps_object, dbus_interface='org.freesmartphone.Resource')
# gps_interface.Disable()
if (position[0]==0):
logger.warning(No GPS data)
return None, None
return str(position[2]), str(position[3])
def saveLocation(latitude, longitude, date, title, details):
url=http://myserver.org/add.py?;
url=url+date=+date
url=url+latitude=+latitude
url=url+longitude=+longitude
url=url+title=+UrlEncode(title)
if (details!=None):
url=url+details=+UrlEncode(details)
print(url)
f=open(locations.dat,a)
f.write(url+\n)
# SHR doesn't have the urlib module, therefore I used the code snippet from
# http://blog.affien.com/archives/2005/06/25/python-url-encoding/comment-page-1/
HexCharacters = 0123456789abcdef
def UrlEncode(s):
r = ''
for c in s:
o = ord(c)
if (o = 48 and o = 57) or \
(o = 97 and o = 122) or \
(o = 65 and o = 90) or \
o == 36 or o == 45 or o == 95 or \
o == 46 or o == 43 or o == 33 or \
o == 42 or o == 39 or o == 40 or \
o == 41 or o == 44:
r += c
else:
r += '%' + CleanCharHex(c)
return r
def CleanCharHex(c):
o = ord(c)
r = HexCharacters[o / 16]
r += HexCharacters[o % 16]
return r
if __name__ == __main__:
parser= MyOptionParser()
options, args =
Stress test of my Freerunner
As you already noticed from my last mail (Visit at Openmoko), I was traveling through Taiwan. I didn't want to blame anyone, but share my feelings with people that are also thrilled by this project. Nevertheless as several people already mentioned, we have an open phone! and there is a future! I use my Freerunner for several weeks as my daily phone now (started after the buzz was fixed by Daniel, thanks). However, the last two weeks I stretched my FR to the limit and it did it well: Few days before I started traveling Taiwan, I decided to make some GPS based diary for my friends at home. Thanks to the very easy API of FSO, I was able to write a basic application in Python within three evenings. The applications sends the current coordinates and some text to my server, where a KML file is created which can be downloaded by my friends. At the airport, I bought a cheap Taiwan SIM card and I started to transmit my position via GPRS (which also worked out-of-the-box). Furthermore, the timezone changed automagically based on GSM (my old Sony Ericsson wasn't able to do so). I had a lot of fun during the last weeks tracking my travel. Of course, I had some problems but I could solve all of them more or less. E.g. the SHR alarm application doesn't worked. So I did the alarm the bash way: sleep 28800 aplay alarm.wav :-) With this solution, the phone couldn't suspend. Luckily, the wall charger has Taiwan connections below the European adaptor :-) Furthermore, I was that adventurous to make an opkg upgrade during the travel :-) Thereafter, I couldn't suspend after I started GPRS. Annoying, but not a serious problem. I love my FR Sven P.S.: Now I start to fill some bug reports :-) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Visit at Openmoko
Hi, I got invited to a conference in Taiwan and used the occasion to stop by the Openmoko office. I use the Freerunner as my daily phone, hence I was interested in the people behind it. When I arrived, the whole office was empty. 10 minutes later they came back from a company meeting. I had prepared quite some questions but I didn't got that far. It seems to me that almost everyone just got layed of in this very meeting. That's not how I'd imagined the visit :-( Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Visit at Openmoko
On Tuesday 26 May 2009 00:46:27 Thomas White wrote: A not unimportant snippet of information is missing: How long ago was this? I visited them yesterday (25th). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: paroli package is back
Hi Mirko, create a file in the /etc/opkg folder with the content: src/gz openmoko-experimental-armv4t http://downloads.openmoko.org/repository/experimental/armv4t Then do an opkg-update and opkg install paroli . Hm, paroli is downloaded from : http://downloads.freesmartphone.org/fso- milestone5/feeds//armv4t/paroli_0.2.1+gitr7a2fdc16174258e9276e7c2d80f500b4dd624442- r0_armv4t.ipk instead of the experimental repository. OK, I'm using the fso-image-om-gta02.jffs2 but it shouldn't make any difference? -Sven -- -- Dipl.-Ing. Sven Klomp Leibniz Universität Hannover Institut für Informationsverarbeitung ph: +49 511 762-19590 (fax: -5333) email: kl...@tnt.uni-hannover.de www: http://www.tnt.uni-hannover.de/~klomp ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ASU keyboards, again
On Wednesday 27 August 2008 16:05:20 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Wed, 27 Aug 2008 15:37:45 +0200 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: julien cubizolles wrote: Le mercredi 27 août 2008 à 09:55 +1000, Carsten Haitzler a écrit : On Tue, 26 Aug 2008 15:31:45 +0200 David Samblas [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: I have followed th Raster indications to install spanish dictionary and it works :) The keyboard drives me crazy :-( With OM2008.8 and the update feed testing I assume I have the Illume keyboard (upper-right icon to choose layout (Default, Numbers, Terminal) and the upper-left for ???). I assume the upper-left icon is to change the dictionary? I copied a small dictionary to /usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/illume/dicts/ but the button/icon has no effect. Furthermore, the keyboard does not predict anything. Not from my dictionary nor from the default dictionary. It displays everything exactly as i typed... Whats wrong? Or is it still the Qtopia keyboard? We need screenshots of both. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery
On Thursday 07 August 2008 20:35:20 Brian Wilson wrote: Some time ago in any of the openmoko lists someone proposed a solution for RTC wakeup. I will try searching for it later. A block diagram of what's in the phone would be nice for this beginner. I wonder if one of those is around. I know they are talking of releasing schematics. I wrote at the devel list, how you can use atd for wake up the phone at a specific time: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2008-July/000502.html However, I don't know how I can tell atd to process new scripts in /var/spool/at. Until now, I have to wait up to ten minutes before atd sets the wake up time when a new script was written in /var/spool/at. Another solution is direct ioctl calls. But you have to stop atd before, since it blocks /dev/rtc(o) Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [WORKS] Re: usb receptables from old motherboard = gender changer = usb host cable?
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 09:15:33 Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Olivier Migeot [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When everything's settled, would you agree to write some schematics or a even a small howto on your work? It seems pretty interesting :) I added instructions to the end of http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_1973_USB_host Please let me know what you think. Great, it's a handy solution. If I connect 5V from external, I can charge the Neo? Can I break something I tell the Neo to provide 5V (echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/neo1973-pm-host.0/hostmode) and add external power supply? Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 empty?
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 11:00:41 Eildert Groeneveld wrote: After trying FSO and installing distro-feed-configs_1.0-r0_om-gta02.ipk I did a opkg update and upgrade, without any effect. When looking at /framework/milestone2/updates/om-gta02 : no wonder, it is empty. At the moment there is only an update for the xserver (updates/armv4t/). However, the update will not work since opkg uses the git hash as version number. The hash of the old package is higher. Therfore, opkg assumes it is up to date.. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Pin entry in 2008.08
On Wednesday 06 August 2008 21:55:40 Florian Hackenberger wrote: OM 2008.08 (ASU) is scheduled to be released in two days. I tried the lates images from the buildhost and the PIN entry dialogue does not work at all. I'm using a SIM card which is known to work with the Freerunner. The PIN entry dialogue is displayed, I can enter the pin using the keyboard (switching to 'Numbers') and then hit Enter, but nothing happens. Has someone had success with a recent ASU image and the PIN entry? I had the same problem. After I hit Enter, the Keyboard disappears but nothing happend. I clicked a second time in the Pin field and after clicking Enter a second time it worked... Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Official Openmoko Forums
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 10:37:00 ian douglas wrote: Christopher Rawlings wrote: what is the chance of getting an official forum on openmoko.org? I don't know that having a third repository of information would help what we're trying to do. Having another place for users to post the same questions without searching archived data is only going to create more confusion, in my opinion. Some guy of Openmoko published a link to a forum on openmoko.org that is connected to the mailing lists. So you can that if you feel more comfortable with a web application. However, I couldn't find the mail. It was something like nabble.openmoko.org?!? Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvisibleShield discounts!
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 13:43:23 Bastian Feder wrote: ... and I got those two discount codes as well ;o) Here's a one-time-use code that you enter during checkout: xthjst , fc3rjw The discount will expire in 30 days. It seems there are a lot InvisibleShield out there. What are your experiences? Are the screen shields slightly larger than the display, so I can put it under the upper case? Are the full cover recommendable? Pictures of a Freerunner wearing InvisibleShield would be great. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: InvisibleShield discounts!
On Wednesday 23 July 2008 13:55:33 Mikko Rauhala wrote: On ke, 2008-07-23 at 13:43 +0200, Bastian Feder wrote: Take them and use them wisely. (If you've used one, please write back to community there would be no discount code collision). Meh. Please, when sharing discount codes, take the time to dish them out yourself privately. The community list is stuffed enough as it is, and throwing around one-use codes and notes about them being used publically is somewhat superfluous. Or setting up a Wiki page. If someone uses that code, he can directly remove it from the page... Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Import contacts qtopia
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 03:47:52 Greg Bonett wrote: Sven Klomp wrote: On Monday 21 July 2008 20:08:20 Greg Bonett wrote: 1.) copy the the file vcf to the device 2.) /opt/Qtopia/bin/addressbook /path/to/vcf-file (will get deleted) 3.) GUI makes some stuff... asks you to import.. 4.) You might need to restart afterwards It worked for me (VCard3.0 exported from Kontact). OK, still some problems with encoding but almost everything were imported (e.g. import of photo :-) ). Worked for me too. I had to do it one contact at a time though, from the terminal on the phone. I wrote a small (4 line) script to import all vcard contacts in a directory. (Attached) Put it in /usr/bin then cd into the directory with your contacts and type 'importcontacts.sh' You'll have to hit 'ok' for each contact. Does anyone know of a better way to do this? I exported all of my contacts into one file. Qtopia needed some time tohandle them, but in the end I was asked one time if I want to import 236 contacts. However, I don't know how to change the order of the contacts. I want Surname, Forename... Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Launching apps in ASU
On Tuesday 22 July 2008 11:46:40 Marcel wrote: Am Dienstag 22 Juli 2008 08:39:20 schrieb Kalle Happonen: Hello, I just flashed to ASU (again, it's fun to play around :) ). I installed the vte terminal with opkg, and it installed nicely. Now I wonder how I can add it to the launcher, or how I can launch it at all? I can ofcourse do it with X forwarding over ssh, but that kind of misses the whole point :). If I'm not completely mistaken, the settings are in a sqlite database, and even if I do like fiddling, I wondered if there would be an easier way than playing with sqlite. Simply add a new .desktop file for it to /usr/share/applications. :) But you have to select the right Category (e.g. Games) since Illume shows only a few categories in the launcher. I don't know what categories that are. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Terminal for ASU
On Monday 21 July 2008 05:30:09 Ken Restivo wrote: On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 08:20:46PM -0700, Brian C wrote: Ken Restivo wrote: 1. It's an open platform, so it's inevitable that it will have a terminal. 2. If it were not possible to have a terminal on ASU, then OpenMoko should just abandon ASU immediately. Therefore, you should feel free to open the bug. I'll wait to see if anyone responds with Sure, it has one, or you can use any terminal with it, here's how you get it to work, get it into the menu/icon/illume thing, make it use the keyboard, blah blah blah. Hm, I'm using the openmoko-terminal2 without problems on ASU. The tricky part was to use the Illume keyboard with GTK applications. At freeyourphone.de was a hint that you have to install ONLY matchbox-keyboard-im (see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Complete_QWERTY_Keyboard_On_The_Freerunner) and GTK applications will start Illume keyboard. I know, it is strange. However it worked :-) Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Wiki search
The configuration parameter is ft_min_word_len=3 in my.ini. See http://kb.ucla.edu/articles/configuring-mediawiki-to-search-for-three-letter-words for more details. On Friday 18 July 2008 04:21:39 BrendaWang wrote: Can you give me the more information about modify the configuration ? That will be great help. Thenks Brenda Sven Klomp ??: Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Enter/Return key on Asu (illume) Keyboard
How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own layout including Return but with no success. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enter/Return key on Asu (illume) Keyboard
On Saturday 19 July 2008 01:05:54 Joerg Reisenweber wrote: Am Fr 18. Juli 2008 schrieb Sven Klomp: How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own layout including Return but with no success. strike left-to-right over keyboard Hm, then I get space instead of return... Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Enter/Return key on Asu (illume) Keyboard
On Saturday 19 July 2008 01:16:33 Carsten Haitzler wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:57:17 +0200 Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: How can I access the Return/Enter key? I already tried to make my own layout including Return but with no success. in svn for illume there is a full qwerty keyboard layout (sorry - missing arrow keys... i'll add them in in my revamp of the kbd code). sliding your finger down does a return anyway :) Hm, and I thought I tried everyting :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Wiki search
Dear Brenda, please modify the configuration of the Openmoko wiki, so queries with less than four letters can be found. It might be helpful with all the abbreviations like ASU, FSO, SHR :-) Thanks Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Alarmclock puzzle
I had the same idea and bought two 1W LEDs. I can dim them with PWM from a microcontroller. The microcontroller has its own power supply and will be connected via USB to the Freerunner. Thus, the Freerunner can control the LEDs in the morning and is also charged during the night (I belive the Freerunner can be charged in host mode). Maybe I don't need a wake-up sound since the LEDs are VERY bright :-) Sven On Tuesday 13 May 2008 21:43:39 Robin Paulson wrote: 2008/5/14 Bastian Muck [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 By the way, when you shake the Freerunner, does it wake up if in suspend? Arne Kristian Jansen schrieb: if we're designing alarm clocks for the neo, i'd love to see something like this implemented: http://www.soleilsunalarm.com/ it gradually turns on a bright light, to simulate the sun coming up. i've been using one for nearly a year now, fantastic thing, i always wake up feeling good and i'm not a morning person maybe this could be implemented on the neo, using the screen as the lamp? of course, it'd have to be plugged in - the thing has a 1A, 12V power supply, that sort of power drain would flatten the battery in no time thinking about it, the screen may not be bright enough, but even if it was used as a 'start' to waking me up, completed by the usual jangling alarm noise, that would be useful ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Idea: Wake me during light sleep
Someting like this: http://www.axbo.com/ Hey, Freerunner has accelerometers, so tie the phone around your arm :-) On Wednesday 14 May 2008 17:19:38 Flemming Richter Mikkelsen wrote: On 3/12/07, Bartlomiej Zdanowski AutoGuard Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Ole Tange napisał(a): If you are woken during periods of light sleep then you will feel more rested than if you are woken during deep sleep. To reliably identify when you are sleeping lightly we will need EEG. In a real life scenario that is not possible and it may be OK if the identification is not completely reliable. If we assume that you are more noisy (e.g. turning in you sleep) then we can use the noise level as indicator. I like the idea very much. I though about it a week ago! :-) You must know (and probably do about REM) the thing is, that the cycle with deep and shallow sleep takes about 1,5h. Optimal solution is to sleep during multiplies of 1,5h then you will wake up during shallow sleep and be more rested. My idea was to observe (by sounds and/or vision) sleeping person to guess when he/she fallen asleep. Then the 1,5h counter begins. Idea with ranges is awesome. I think a combination of this and controlling an external light source could manage to wake me up. No matter how loud the sound is, I would just continue to sleep... ignoring the alarm. I hope this sleep pattern detection is possible. If not, a mechanical lift under the top of the bed would help (lifting the bed up to 80 deg so you get on your feat), but I can't afford it. I hope there is somebody that can write an app for sleep state detection:) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Openmoko becomes more and more visible
Hi, at the International Congress Open Source meets Industry (http://www.osadl.org/International-Congress-Open-Source-mee.hannover-2008-congress.0.html) some famous Open Source developer gave talks. Alan Cox mentioned to the question What will be the future of Open Source among other things the Openmoko project. He thinks such projects have high potential for the future. In an other talk Bruce Perens said, the Openmoko idea is a great innovation. Keep it up! Sven p.s.:I'm sorry, but I think no videos were taken :-( ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Loosing your moko
On Thursday 10 April 2008 01:17:51 Denis wrote: Centralized database is evil. I'm going to use my own server for tracking my Neo. I think it's the only way to keep privacy. I don't know if it was already mentioned, but encryption of the GPS data might be a solution to keep privacy. Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Loosing your moko
On Thursday 10 April 2008 10:19:22 Didier Raboud wrote: Sven Klomp wrote: On Thursday 10 April 2008 01:17:51 Denis wrote: Centralized database is evil. I'm going to use my own server for tracking my Neo. I think it's the only way to keep privacy. I don't know if it was already mentioned, but encryption of the GPS data might be a solution to keep privacy. Sven This doesn't solve it all... Let's assume that the decryption key is given to the user with its Neo. It sill means that Openmoko created that key (and thus knows it)... Hm, I thought about something like GPG: You create a key and put the public key on your Freerunner. The Freerunner encrypts the data and sends it to the publish server. If you need the data (in case of a stolen/lost device, what ever) you download the data and decrypt it on your desktop with your private key. OK, applications like friends next to you won't work... Sven ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Community announcement: poll for Openmoko Community Member of the Week
Great idea, Michael! I don't know how the voting should be handled. However, I want to start with a nomination: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Member_of_the_Week Greetings Sven On Friday 28 March 2008 19:32:22 Michael Shiloh wrote: Dear community, I'd like to initiate a weekly poll for you, our community, to nominate a fellow community member who has contributed substantially to the project, whether an application, a bug fix, testing work, How-To guide, whatever. The intent is clearly to identify and appreciate those of you who have made and continue to make substantial contributions, and also to encourage that extra bit of work required to turn a good application into an excellent one, with a nicely polished GUI, a well written user guide, etc. There is also an important open source philosophical point to this: As I speak at many public events, I am often asked to justify the open source nature of this project, and specifically how the community contributes to the project. I try to keep up with everything you all do, but the amount is so high that I'm sure I'm missing many important contributions. This poll will allow you to bring to my attention work I may have missed. I emphasize that this is not limited to applications or in fact software at all. I'm not sure if it makes more sense to do this on the wiki or the website, but I'd like to try doing this on the wiki first. I think our community is sufficiently honest and respectful that we don't need elaborate checks to make sure people aren't voting more than once. Perhaps all that is needed is a wiki page with a table with 3 columns: Nominator (your name or nickname), nominee (who you are voting for) and reason. At the end of the week the winner gets a T-shirt from http://128333.spreadshirt.com/us/US/Shop/ and a new poll takes place. Thoughts? Can someone set up such a wiki page? Once we iron out the details and the wiki page is set up I'll announce this on the announce list. Thanks, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New TOP SECRET OM device??
Hi, On Friday 05 October 2007 19:45:22 Krzysiek Bielicki wrote: I have found a nice picture from mobileCampLondon http://www.flickr.com/photos/semiot/1471861932/ Can somebody tell us what would be this TOP SECRET device? When we will be able to buy it? Will it have all the hardware advantages of GTA02? (GPS, WiFi etc.)? What will be new? It is captured from a slide of the presentation of Michael Shiloh: http://blip.tv/file/407837 At minute 9:50 he tells that it isn't a secret but they didn't defined it... I know what TOP SECRET mean, but I want to know if it's worth to wait for new device when I have no money to buy both. I somewhere heared, that the follower of the GTA02 will be a larger device. Therfore, the GTA02 will be my choice. Furthermore, I can't wait any longer :-) Greetings, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Vibrator
I didn't thought about the subject. Hopefully, nobody will put me on a blacklist ;-) On Tuesday 02 October 2007 00:49, Robin Paulson wrote: On 02/10/2007, Shawn Rutledge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea from the Jackito sounded good to me - use the screen surface as the audio transducer, that way if you play a low-frequency sound you can feel it with your fingers. And it's much lower-power than using the vibrator. But I'm not sure how you attach a piezo to the screen; maybe the idea is to just vibrate the touchscreen film so as to have lower mass. i'm not sure that's a good idea: is the screen designed to take such repeated vibrations, they're usually pretty sensitive? Do you think this applies also for the build-in vibrator (give me another name :-) )? I don't hope, that many incoming phone calls will harm my display. I think the two constraints are the battery an the livetime of the motor. imo the whole idea would get pretty annoying after the initial novelty wore off, and i'm sure most people will disable it pretty quickly For sure, it will be annoying if you use it for every keystroke while typing a message. But for special buttons like hang-up or close an application, it might be very comfortable. Greetings, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Vibrator
Hi, does anyone know, how power consuming the build-in vibrator of the neo is? Today, I held the Motorola Razr 2 (V8) in my hands and I'm very impressed of the feeling of tactile feedback of the screen buttons. I found this approach already on the wishlist (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Wish_List#Tactile_feedback_via_buzzer) but no practical information. Is it practicable, or will the vibrator exhaust the battery? Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GPS accuracy
Hi, I wonder, how accurate the Hammerhead GPS-Chip is. Is it comparable with e.g. Garmin Etrex products? I heared they use a GPS-Chip with better accuracy in their new models. I want to use my Neo for Geocaching, since I can also download every information needed for a cache onto the Neo. Therefore I also need reception in forests... Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GPS accuracy
On Friday 21 September 2007 21:43:45 Krzysztof Kajkowski wrote: 2007/9/21, Sven Klomp [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, Hi! Check out picture in this article: http://www.openmoko.org.pl/node/41 I had my Neo on the buttom of my back pack while riding a bike. Accuracy was up to about 2m. It was realy good. This sounds (and looks) very promising. I added Geocaching as possible application to the Wiki. BTW: Nice blog with interesting (and for me some new) details. But unfortunately in Polish :-) Greets, Sven ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
