Re: Openmoko Beagle Hybrid
On Monday 17 May 2010 10:45 AM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote: So if we find a method that allows to make 10 units from a budget of 500 EUR or 100 units from a total budget of 5000 EUR I am happy! This may be a dumb response. But what about a machined metal (aluminium) case. These prices don't seem that bad. http://www.emachineshop.com/machine-shop/13-98-each-at-qty-50-CNC-Mill-Size-3-x-2-x-0-5-Holder-jig/img/page573.htmlimg_id=664 http://www.emachineshop.com/machine-shop/13-98-each-at-qty-50-CNC-Mill-Size-3-x-2-x-0-5-Holder-jig/img/page573.htmlimg_id=664 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: project customers
On Saturday 17 April 2010 11:49 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: http://www.google.pt/search?q=olpc+tablet It's would be a real killer if it has a reflexive screen like XO-1 and XO-1.5 * low energy requirements when backlight is off * visible even with direct sunlight * color! (well, I don't know if reflexive mode can support it, in current XO's it can't Seen the NotionInk Adam. Just google it. Specially check out videos. Regards, Vibhav Sharma ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
rakshat hooja wrote: Try this kernel http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin with your OM2009 installation if you dont want to experiment with your rootfs right now. Otherwise also try http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 So I went and installed SHR-U on Monday. Also the latest kernel. Current status is that I have calypso_deep_sleep = always in frameworkd.conf Been testing my phone for receiving calls while suspended. Haven't lost a single one so far. And battery usage is 5% in 6 hours. WooHoo! Thanks a lot for the suggestions guys. :) -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always oh...the comment in the file said that adaptive was default...and i kinda like the word 'adaptive' (sounds catchy :)...should I change it to 'always' anyways I changed it to 'always', rebooted the phone. The follwing is now happening. Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. I need to track down what is happening now. I remember reading sometime back on the mailing list that you can confirm the calyso de-register - re-register bug from some logs. If somebody has the reference in advance, thanks a lot else I'll search for it when I get home later tonight. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vibhav Sharma wrote: Vikas Saurabh wrote: You should edit it, not remove it: Change: ti_calypso_deep_sleep = never to ti_calypso_deep_sleep = always I changed it to 'always', rebooted the phone. The follwing is now happening. Sometimes the phone will not manually suspend. When this happens. If I call the FR, the caller can hear the FR ringing but the call never comes to FR. I need to track down what is happening now. Update, adaptive also results in same behaviour, changed to 'never' and seems ok now (for the past hour anyway). Need to work out whether the fix not proper or something else causing the behaviour. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
rakshat hooja wrote: bootloader, kernel, rootfs? Try this kernel http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/uImage-om-gta02-latest.bin with your OM2009 installation if you dont want to experiment with your rootfs right now. Otherwise also try http://build.shr-project.org/shr-unstable/images/om-gta02/full-om-gta02.jffs2 Sorry for not posting that info. Using OM2009t5, with qi-s3c2442-1.0.2+gitr3b8513d8b3d9615ebda605de4bda18371aa3f359.udfu Basically the Qi image when Om2009t5 came out and just di opkg/update/upgrade since. Gonna try shifting over to SHR-U either tonight or over the weekend and will update. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
c_c wrote: Hi, Are you on the latest shr-U? T Om2009t5 which has been opkg update/upgraded. But the sep releases have so far been fine for me. Maybe you should re-install on another partition, upgrade and confirm that the problem still persists. There have been issues in upgrading shr-U sometimes. Will change over either tonight or on sunday time permitting. BTW - So it took you 3 days to get the phone back? Nope, fix got done then and there (thanks to Zoheb of IDA systems). Took about 30 mins each. So that shouldn't be a problem. I'm likely to be in Delhi around the 15th or so for about a week. Hopefully I can get the phone fixed in that time. Great. Let us Delhi wallas know if you have time. We could try arranging a meetup when you are around. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: Vibhav Sharma (FR - ??) @Vikas, was waiting for your update. I too have been busy but will have time from next week. Let me know if you need any help. I have a FR - A5, in for Buzz and Bug #1024 atleast. Let me see about the Bass. -- Vibhav Sharma (khoonirobo) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009
Xavier Cremaschi wrote: Angus Ainslie a crit : Now I have a question of all of you. Should I continue to maintain Om2009. >From the recent poll by rhk it seems that SHR users outnumber OM users by ~ 7:1. So what I'd like to know is does anyone still think Om2009 is a worthy venture or should I move over to SHR and see what help I can be there. As a Om2009t5 user it's a big YES for me. I know that numbers speak against Om2009, but I use and love this distrib. I am using it since 1st july, and I find it : - usable (hi Paroli !) - stable while using (few reboots, only when battery exhausted or when I need to change SIM, which is rare) - stable while upgrading : I was used to break lots of things while upgrading my SHR-U, it's far better with Om2009 As another OM2009t5 user I'd like to chime in too. Again, I love OM2009t5 compared to other distro's I tried before. It was the first one for me with stable phone and GPS, no lost calls and decent battery. Comparing to OM2007, OM2008 and Qtopia here, not used any other. And yet, I'd prefer the scarce development effort into going to make one distro stable and featureful. If SHR is that one presently, then yes please, let's get SHR stable and have a big repository full of applications available as soon as possible. Just my opinion. -- Vibhav Sharma (khoonirobo) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Fwd: buzzfix in India
Vikas Saurabh wrote: On a related note, the fix for #1024 and the bass boost as well as the shorting of the erroneous capacitor[1] (if present) would be a welcome addition to the Buzz fix. It seems a reasonable amount of effort to send the phone and it would make sense to do as much as possible on this one trip. Could someone with hardware skills explain the various fixes to the guy who is doing the fixes ? I am no hardware guy, in fact I haven't even opened up my phone beyond the battery case yet...not that I see some risk...just that I don't see any reason to do that. Anyways, for bass fix there is a wiki page (http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/GTA02_bass_fix) which suggests more that one way of fixing the issue with pros and cons For bug#1024, the only nice link I got was http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/hardware/2009-May/001192.html I think the descriptions are pretty well written but then thats my perspective who hasn't ever used a solder iron. Anyone with more experience please jump in. --Vikas I also haven't opened the phone so don't have any idea how difficult opening the RF cage is. But once past that, I'd prefer replacing the Capacitor with a higher capacity one instead of adding another in parallel. I believe extra wires inside the RF cage can have unintended side-effects. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Rustling noise on phonecalls
Timo Jyrinki wrote: I believe the gsmhandset.state.new (the one) file is not good enough, even though it was toutet as such. The speaker and mic levels are too high, and apparently it may cause too high amplification of mic (ie. when mic2 is 3, mono sidetone is 7 and mono playback is 127 - all maxed out). I've lowered speaker volume to 115 and mono playback volume to 100, otherwise keeping everything intact. Try those. Using Debian. -Timo Thanks a lot. People I call are reporting that my voice is much clearer now. Using OM2009 t5 - Vibhav Sharma ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Indian FR Owners
Hi all, I'm sure there are about 100-200 of us (Indian FR Owners) out there. Atleast it appears so from what Rakshat of IDA systems tells us. The wiki though, shows not that many. I'm guessing most of us would be lurkers on this list. Anybody interested in a meetup to discuss what all we've 'done' / 'not-done' / 'plan to do' and 'cried over for' with the FR? I'm in Gurgaon and would be happy to help organise one for NCR. Please reply of-list in case you are interested. For the other cities, please mail me or update wiki so that we get the Indian Chapter of FR owners up and running. - Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Indian FR Owners
Gora Mohanty wrote: On Wed, 07 Jan 2009 15:33:47 +0530 Vibhav Sharma khoonir...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in Gurgaon and would be happy to help organise one for NCR. Please reply of-list in case you are interested. [...] I have a Neo 1973, but not a FreeRunner. My apologies Neo 1973 users are welcome too. ;) [...] A meeting of people in the NCR region would be good, and if needed, we can offer space for this either at Srijan Technologies in Nehru Place, or at Sarai, CSDS, in North Delhi (between ISBT, and Delhi University, and accessible by metro). Hey, thanks for the kind offer. Will contact if need be. And: come on ppl. respond. I want to see what happens when you call one OM phone from another. - Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Paul wrote: Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Hi all, Not tried bluetooth, but been using QTextended since yesterday, and here are my observations: 1. On incoming call, ringtone is played from ear-phone instead of speaker-phone. Media player also plays back using ear-phone. * by ear-phone I mean the speaker where you put your ear to to listen to other party in voice call and speaker-phone is the speaker on the side. 2. Power management can be a little erratic. I.e. I changed settings so that phone does not suspend even on battery (worked). Changed it to suspend again after 50s (did not work). Shutdown and restarted phone (suspending properly again). 3. Executing 'apm' from terminal earlier used to give battery status ... does not any longer. I'm assuming this is related to battery icon showing empty. 4. Wifi configuration worked perfectly from gui. Except for empty 'resolv.conf', I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that have to do stuff to get that working. Will look into that. 'System Info' network showed wrong gateway (IP assigned to device instead of gateway IP). But configuration was correct according to 'ip route show' and it was working ok. 5. Contact upload from vcf worked. For newbies: path is now /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/... instead of /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/... if you are using the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts . Will update wiki on this soon. 6. Phone UI freezes for some time (30s) sometimes (rarely). Not been able to do any further analysis as to when / why / how. 7. Desperately need info on how mapping demo can be configured etc. Need to cache maps. It seems you can't move around / zoom. @Lorn any way we could provide you with debugging info / help that you require to get this working perfectly. If you could guide us to some links etc for the same. Would be much appreciated. If anybody has observed these issues in their setup / worked around them, pointers would be appreciated. Thanks and regards, Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QTextended 4.4.1
Vibhav Sharma wrote: Paul wrote: Hi, I just flashed QTextended 4.4.1. on my FR (becoming adventurous), and it works quite well. Something I found: - pairing a Bluetooth device works well - switching OFF the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang After removing the battery and rebooting: - switching ON the Bluetooth device makes the FR hang In both occasions, a small timer-clock starts revolving and at 14 seconds it stops and is determined to stay there. Hi all, Not tried bluetooth, but been using QTextended since yesterday, and here are my observations: 1. On incoming call, ringtone is played from ear-phone instead of speaker-phone. Media player also plays back using ear-phone. * by ear-phone I mean the speaker where you put your ear to to listen to other party in voice call and speaker-phone is the speaker on the side. 2. Power management can be a little erratic. I.e. I changed settings so that phone does not suspend even on battery (worked). Changed it to suspend again after 50s (did not work). Shutdown and restarted phone (suspending properly again). 3. Executing 'apm' from terminal earlier used to give battery status ... does not any longer. I'm assuming this is related to battery icon showing empty. 4. Wifi configuration worked perfectly from gui. Except for empty 'resolv.conf', I vaguely remember seeing somewhere that have to do stuff to get that working. Will look into that. 'System Info' network showed wrong gateway (IP assigned to device instead of gateway IP). But configuration was correct according to 'ip route show' and it was working ok. 5. Contact upload from vcf worked. For newbies: path is now /opt/Trolltech/Qtopia/... instead of /opt/Nokia/Qtopia/... if you are using the instructions from http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Import_Vcf_Contacts . Will update wiki on this soon. 6. Phone UI freezes for some time (30s) sometimes (rarely). Not been able to do any further analysis as to when / why / how. 7. Desperately need info on how mapping demo can be configured etc. Need to cache maps. It seems you can't move around / zoom. @Lorn any way we could provide you with debugging info / help that you require to get this working perfectly. If you could guide us to some links etc for the same. Would be much appreciated. If anybody has observed these issues in their setup / worked around them, pointers would be appreciated. Thanks and regards, Vibhav Apologise for replying to my own mail. But in case anybody wanted to know: I'd setup my freerunner by using the kernel image from qtextended.org, qtextended-4.4.1 jffs image before update and installing the timezone ipk. Regards, Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Garbled SMS messages with OM2008.8?
Lorn Potter wrote: Matthew Lane wrote: Tim Erwin wrote: I've been running OM2008.8 on my freerunner for a little over a week now. For about a week, SMS's worked fine, but for the last few days the SMSs I receive have been garbled - a mixture of characters like ?Èù¥£ì I only get garbled messages from my service provider. This is when I miss a call and I should get a SMS to say that I have voice mail message please cal 212 but with the qtopia 080808 image I get a similar garbled result. Regards, Tim I also get garbled text messages sometimes. Usually a great deal of them, that make no sense, and sometimes numbers that I've never heard of (eg. 611211) or something along those lines. Some kind of data corruption? I'm using Qtopia 20080808. No, its Qtopia being silly. I am also running QTopia and all messages from my Service Provider / Google etc are garbled. Messages from my contacts are normal. So what do you mean by 'Qtopia being silly' ??? Regards, Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
Andy Green wrote: Somebody in the thread at some point said: | I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and | TangoGPS. | Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but | when I move indoors, | gps shows 10 satellite fixes and gives my speed as 482 Km/h (really | it did). | | So either I broke the land speed record for a guy on foot ... or I think | I will have to have that | capacitor fix. I dunno how a 10pF capacitor on SD_CLK is going to fix the GPS chip acting erratic when it genuinely loses the satellites as you move indoors. FWIW you'll need to wait for tomorrow's kernels to get yesterday's two fixes in there. - -Andy Hi Andy, I'm the guy who said that. Actually I based my observation on the fact that i saw an entry of 10/x/y as the endmost entry on the TangoGPS status line. Isn't that supposed to mean that it still has fixes from 10 satellites. So I thought it must be a SNR issue and the capacitor fix is supposed to help on that ... right? This was all guesswork on my part. If somebody could help with how to make observations on GPS performance, I'd be glad to do testing and provide input. The kernel update is going on as I type this. So will test again today if possible. And don't worry ... will be doing the hardware fix only after OM finally, after all software fixes, decides it will still help / otherwise not. -- Vibhav ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interferenceissue
Tilman Baumann wrote: Andy Green wrote: Inertial navigation systems for the masses! Anyone here who wants to write a kalman filter? Besides the point that a small pocket-IMU would be great. To GPS jumts that big exist? As fas as i understand GPS it should have little jitter. Hi, I'm using OM2007.2 updated to today morning (Thursday July 31), and TangoGPS. Also have the map cache directory on the card. Normally works fine, but when I move indoors, gps shows 10 satellite fixes and gives my speed as 482 Km/h (really it did). So either I broke the land speed record for a guy on foot ... or I think I will have to have that capacitor fix. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
