Re: Screenshots
I just want to say that I can't stand the ubuntu colors. Please don't suggest using ugly brown colors for a phone. At the moment I like the dark version of the phone but the orange one could use a little change. Dylan McCall wrote: Have to kind of agree with Amy about the colour scheme. I am not much of an art person, but I am pondering a theme that rhymes with Ubuntu's Human theme, with a more natural, (human) look to the applications. I am one of what seems a few who has always liked the idea behind that theme :b What I have pondered out (in way too many different mediums) is a bit lighter than that Human theme, but I think it is helpful to have applications behave more like people than just machines. I am not talking about avatars that are pictures of smiling people! For example, people make suggestions and know what they are doing, while machines just do things, assuming the user knows everything. For a friendly interface, I think the human behaviour can be really beneficial and unique, as opposed to the appliance behaviour of most systems. The theme is the first place to start! The other thing I consider a bit problematic with the black and orange is that it is difficult (nay, impossible!) to get a more extreme colour for particularly important buttons and messages. For example, with a lighter background, Red would be a lot prominent. Bye, -Dylan McCall On 8/22/07, *Amy Stephen* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks so much for sharing these pictures. I include one, and a link, on OpenSourceCommunity.org I watch this project very closely. It has great potential to keep choice available to people - even just for selecting a services provider. But, IMO, the color scheme is wrong! I know lots of amazing technical hurdles are being cleared and political ones, as well. But, that color scheme is going to hold this thing back. It should be snazzy and bright and colorful and full of ENERGY! Not orange and black like Halloween. The added gray does not help, either! All the best to you all as you work together on this extremely important effort! Amy :) On 8/22/07, * Franco Austin* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://scap.linuxtogo.org/index.php?page=1 ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://OpenSourceCommunity.org ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org mailto:community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone emulator under Gentoo?
Someone else mentioned the gcc version might cause a problem. Im going to look into that. white-rabbit src # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [3] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.2.0 * Nelson Castillo wrote: On 7/27/07, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: # ls /usr/lib64/libSDL* /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL.la /usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0.0.7 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.so /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.1 /usr/lib64/libSDLmain.a /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.a /usr/lib64/libSDL.so /usr/lib64/libSDL.a /usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.la Mmm. I don't know what to say. I also have /usr/include/SDL. I don't know about gentoo / 64 bits. Do you have the sdl-config script available? I think it's used a lot by the configure script and it should tell it where to find things. $ sdl-config --cflags -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT Looks like I do: white-rabbit src # sdl-config --cflags -I/usr/include/SDL -D_GNU_SOURCE=1 -D_REENTRANT This is very strange. BTW: /host/qemu-neo1973$ ldd arm-softmmu/qemu-system-arm linux-gate.so.1 = (0xe000) libm.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libm.so.6 (0xb7ee1000) libz.so.1 = /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7ecc000) libSDL-1.2.so.0 = /usr/lib/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0xb7e1a000) librt.so.1 = /lib/i686/cmov/librt.so.1 (0xb7e11000) libutil.so.1 = /lib/i686/cmov/libutil.so.1 (0xb7e0d000) libc.so.6 = /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7cc6000) /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7f28000) libasound.so.2 = /usr/lib/libasound.so.2 (0xb7c0) libdl.so.2 = /lib/i686/cmov/libdl.so.2 (0xb7bfb000) libdirectfb-0.9.so.25 = /usr/lib/libdirectfb-0.9.so.25 (0xb7ba5000) libfusion-0.9.so.25 = /usr/lib/libfusion-0.9.so.25 (0xb7b9f000) libdirect-0.9.so.25 = /usr/lib/libdirect-0.9.so.25 (0xb7b9) libvga.so.1 = /usr/lib/libvga.so.1 (0xb7b3) libpthread.so.0 = /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7b19000) Regards. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone emulator under Gentoo?
Henryk Pltz wrote: Please post the full error message that the qemu configure gives. Here is the output of configure: white-rabbit qemu-neo1973 # ./configure WARNING: "gcc" looks like gcc 4.x Looking for gcc 3.x Found "gcc32" Install prefix /usr/local BIOS directory /usr/local/share/qemu binary directory /usr/local/bin Manual directory /usr/local/share/man ELF interp prefix /usr/gnemul/qemu-%M Source path /usr/src/qemu-neo1973 C compiler gcc32 Host C compiler gcc make make install install host CPU x86_64 host big endian no target list i386-linux-user arm-linux-user armeb-linux-user sparc-linux-user ppc-linux-user mips-linux-user mipsel-linux-user m68k-linux-user alpha-linux-user i386-softmmu ppc-softmmu sparc-softmmu x86_64-softmmu mips-softmmu mipsel-softmmu mips64-softmmu mips64el-softmmu arm-softmmu ppc64-softmmu ppcemb-softmmu m68k-softmmu gprof enabled no profiler no static build no SDL support no mingw32 support no Adlib support no CoreAudio support no ALSA support no DSound support no FMOD support no OSS support yes kqemu support yes Documentation no ERROR: QEMU requires SDL or Cocoa for graphical output To build QEMU without graphical output configure with --disable-gfx-check Note that this will disable all output from the virtual graphics card. There is another much more likely problem with gentoo x86_64 and qemu: qemu needs a gcc 3.x, while Gentoo by default now is at 4.x. One has to emerge an additional 3.x series gcc (3.4.6* is current in Gentoo) and either edit the MokoMakefile (add --cc=gcc-3.4.6 to the qemu-configure call, after --target-list=arm-softmmu) or the qemu-configure (add gcc-3.4.6 to gcc3_list). Ok, I'll try setting it to gcc3.4.6 which is still on my system and see if that helps. The configure script does warn about the version I am using. white-rabbit qemu-neo1973 # gcc-config -l [1] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 [2] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.2 [3] x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-4.2.0 * Nelson Castillo wrote: Also the developer version? I have the "libsdl1.2-dev" package in my Debian sid system. Note that the usual notion of "developer packages" does not apply to Gentoo systems, since all packages are built from source by default all necessary files to compile against packages are always installed. So, just installing libsdl is enough. Thanks for your help. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone emulator under Gentoo?
Thanks for your help guys! It appears that I had to change my compiler to version 3.3.6 and now configure found SDL. I am compiling it right now and hopefully it will work. Thanks again for your help. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G sim cards
I have a simple question related to 3G. Why doesn't the neo support 3G? I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine ever going back to Edge speeds. And sence this phone has a 640x480 screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network. I would really love to change my 3G phone+Zaurus combination over to one openmoko phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Phone emulator under Gentoo?
Has anyone been able to get the emulator working under gentoo Linux? When I try to configure it before making it, it fails on SDL. I deffinately have SDL installed on my system. Also, has anyone made an overlay or at least an ebuild for it? Thanks for any help. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3G sim cards
Whao, I didn't know that. I assumed it at least had edge. That totally sucks if it is only has GPRS. What is going on with new phones these days? Seems like they are going backwards in speeds, i-phone and now this. HSDPA support? Why not? Is it licensing issues? Andreas Kostyrka wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 edge speeds? *lol* The GTA01 at least has pure classic GPRS. Andreas Xamindar wrote: I have a simple question related to 3G. Why doesn't the neo support 3G? I have had my Cingular 3G phone for a year now and I can't imagine ever going back to Edge speeds. And sence this phone has a 640x480 screen and powerful processor it is great for the faster speed network. I would really love to change my "3G phone+Zaurus" combination over to one openmoko phone. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGqm52HJdudm4KnO0RAvwOAKC8zH50pNDZXDC5EIrMm2PJLIXj7gCfYVj0 X6lFm6Ymbsha1N9miTpr6Xs= =jS3r -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone emulator under Gentoo?
# ls /usr/lib64/libSDL* /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL.la /usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0.0.7 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.so /usr/lib64/libSDL-1.2.so.0.11.1 /usr/lib64/libSDLmain.a /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.a /usr/lib64/libSDL.so /usr/lib64/libSDL.a /usr/lib64/libSDL_net-1.2.so.0 /usr/lib64/libSDL_net.la That's what's on my system. Any new programs that I install with an SDL requirement install just fine. The qemu-neo1973 configure can't find it for some reason :( Nelson Castillo wrote: Also the developer version? I have the "libsdl1.2-dev" package in my Debian sid system. And I forgot to say that I built the emulator with this library. I hadn't it before I noticed it was missing. Regards, Nelson.- ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
