Re: faenqo

2011-02-15 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
really nice theme -- thanks!  I have installed from .deb, had to reboot
(apps started to segfault), and it works nicely

On Sat, 05 Feb 2011, cyberesprit wrote:
It's like in the home zone, I canceled an icon (lock) to have 3
bigger icons. But you can still use the canceled icon function in
clicking on options - lock screen.

eh -- and lock  will be missed :-/  may be to the degree of not using
the theme due to its vital function:  usually before dumping the
phone into the pocket, I want to lock it so there is no sporadic
presses.  going to the menu is overkill for such a common operation.  I
do not care much about background (although it carries the proud logo of
Debian), and would tolerate  (if possible) additional button on top ...
or may be even in the space of the right action button on the very
bottom which is not assigned any action in the home screen mode..
although that is probably beyond theming, right?

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Re: Patch for libphone-ui [was: fails to call from contacts if phone # contains any non-number?]

2010-07-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hey, I added the filtering to libphone-utils, and called the functions
in libphone-ui until mickey
...
Thank you Tom!!! That works great (although upgrade entirely ruined my
SHR primarily since I've not done preventive measures against running
out of space) and I had to reflash (and now getting alignment traps for
every binary I think [1]).

  Just a note: another location for such filtering would be before
  matching phone #s from the book with those in call log.  This
  feature already existed for a long time, it should work I checked
  it to work and it did, if it doesn't let me know and I'll give it
  some more testing.
probably it does but it seems not to take into account country code...
i.e. if in phone book I have a number without country (area is
always there) code -- it doesn't get name assigned in the Phone Log


[1] http://www.onerussian.com//Linux/bugs/om/dmesg-alignment-traps
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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-29 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
d'oh... thanks -- I thought that I cut/pasted the command from 
http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

On Mon, 28 Jun 2010, Mike Crash wrote:
 You forget -m switch, run it as

 mcnavi -m belgium-map-12022010.mcm
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Re: Patch for libphone-ui [was: fails to call from contacts if phone # contains any non-number?]

2010-06-29 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Fox -- Thank you very much for forwarding and thank you Tom for
reply!  Indeed location felt suboptimal even for me (as I wrote Also I
am not sure if location of phone # filtering is the best), but I am
quite ignorant in SHR internal structure, so please take it as my
'excuse' ;)

Just a note: another location for such filtering would be before
matching phone #s from the book with those in call log.

Please let me know if I could be of any help, Tom.  Thanks in advance
for pushing this feature through.

Cheers,
Yarik

On Tue, 29 Jun 2010, Fox Mulder wrote:
 Am 22.06.2010 20:57, schrieb Yaroslav Halchenko:
  Hi Everyone,

  Could you please overview and accept following patches (1 is non
  functional which I've sent to Klaus yesterday).  patch should remove any
  symbol from the number before sending the query to initiate the call...

  I don't have chain ready to build it for phone, but built fine on
  desktop so should be fine? ;)  Also I am not sure if location of
  phone # filtering is the best , and it would be great if similar would
  be adopted for matching numbers in the phone calls log book.

 I sent your patches to Tom Hacohen who seems to be responsible for this
 area. He hasn't subscribed this list so i will forward his answer here:

 Am 29.06.2010 20:23, schrieb Tom Hacohen:
  Mind doing me a favor? Please tell him thanks, but I have two
  comments:
  1. He should send his shr patches to shr-devel.
  2. His patch for filtering bad input is bad, as it should be done in
  libphone-utis and not in libphone-ui*

  We don't want UI filtering, but we want backend system filtering. The
  correct thing will be fixing libphone-utils,
  adding filter before sms, filter before call, etc functions and
  using them in FSO, not in the UI.

  Thanks in advance, will hopefully do it in the weekend.

 I added Tom in CC so maybe you want to contact him yourself. :)

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Re: MC Navi 0.2.10 released

2010-06-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Mike,

sounds cool... installed Debian package from your repository, and
downloaded belgium map just for a try:

$ mcnavi belgium-map-12022010.mcm   
Cannot open map

strace shows:

open(/usr/share/mcnavi/maps/map.mcm, O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)

and quick grepping confirms that path is compiled in:

$ dpkg -L mcnavi | xargs grep map.mcm
Binary file /usr/bin/mcnavi matches


On Wed, 09 Jun 2010, Mike Crash wrote:


 Hi all,

 I have released new version of MC Navi. It should be (more) stable now
 (hope) and have some improvements:
 - added support for orchards
 - draw cycle and tourist ways (for cycle and foot)
 - added GPS menu with satellites
 - draw the street names

 More info here:
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Contentpa=showpagepid=1

 This version needs new map, download at:
 http://www.gps-routes.info/index.php?name=Downloadsd_op=viewdownloadcid=3
 If marked with (old/uncompatible - do not use), do not download it, it is
 old version. I will regenerate it in some days.
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Patch for libphone-ui [was: fails to call from contacts if phone# contains any non-number?]

2010-06-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Everyone,

Could you please overview and accept following patches (1 is non
functional which I've sent to Klaus yesterday).  patch should remove any
symbol from the number before sending the query to initiate the call...

I don't have chain ready to build it for phone, but built fine on
desktop so should be fine? ;)  Also I am not sure if location of
phone # filtering is the best , and it would be great if similar would
be adopted for matching numbers in the phone calls log book.

Thanks in advance

On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

 Hi guys,

 It has been a while since I've been observing this but finally decided
 to email after the last upgrade today.

 I have my contacts synced from gmail using PISI (Thank you Michael), I
 am using SHR, and I have somewhat a variety of formats for numbers
 specifications, e.g.

 2345678900
 (234) 567-8900
 +1 (234) 567-8900

 etc

 the problem is, that it seems that  if there is any non-digit in the
 phone #, it fails to actually initiate the call. e.g. here is example --
 I've called contact with only numbers in phone #, then added a space
 after 1 - and it failed to call:
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From 2aeea757dc8ac787cee4f50f9c753bb7815b1d37 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: Yaroslav Halchenko deb...@onerussian.com
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 16:02:23 -0400
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] ENH: non-functional -- tabs, Initi[t]ating spelling

---
 src/phoneui-utils-calls.c|6 +++---
 src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c |2 +-
 src/phoneui-utils-sound.c|   42 +-
 3 files changed, 25 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/phoneui-utils-calls.c b/src/phoneui-utils-calls.c
index 12833fd..12e8a5a 100644
--- a/src/phoneui-utils-calls.c
+++ b/src/phoneui-utils-calls.c
@@ -35,7 +35,7 @@ _call_initiate_callback(GObject *source, GAsyncResult *res, gpointer data)
 	int callid;
 	struct _call_pack *pack = data;
 
-callid = free_smartphone_gsm_call_initiate_finish
+	callid = free_smartphone_gsm_call_initiate_finish
 	(pack-call, res, error);
 	if (pack-callback) {
 		pack-callback(error, callid, pack-data);
@@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ phoneui_utils_call_initiate(const char *number,
 {
 	struct _call_pack *pack;
 
-	g_message(Inititating a call to %s\n, number);
+	g_message(Initiating a call to %s\n, number);
 	pack = malloc(sizeof(*pack));
 	pack-callback = callback;
 	pack-data = userdata;
@@ -251,7 +251,7 @@ phoneui_utils_ussd_initiate(const char *request,
 {
 	struct _network_pack *pack;
 
-	g_message(Inititating a USSD request %s\n, request);
+	g_message(Initiating a USSD request %s\n, request);
 	pack = malloc(sizeof(*pack));
 	pack-callback = callback;
 	pack-data = data;
diff --git a/src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c b/src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c
index e4563e8..fe6a5f5 100644
--- a/src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c
+++ b/src/phoneui-utils-contacts.c
@@ -346,7 +346,7 @@ _contact_lookup_callback(GObject *source, GAsyncResult *res, gpointer data)
 	g_debug(_contact_lookup_callback);
 	path = free_smartphone_pim_contacts_get_single_entry_single_field_finish
 	(pack-contacts, res, error);
-g_debug(got path %s, path);
+	g_debug(got path %s, path);
 	if (error || !path || !*path) {
 		pack-callback(error, NULL, pack-data);
 		if (error) {
diff --git a/src/phoneui-utils-sound.c b/src/phoneui-utils-sound.c
index 3c34794..4b08c60 100644
--- a/src/phoneui-utils-sound.c
+++ b/src/phoneui-utils-sound.c
@@ -556,13 +556,13 @@ phoneui_utils_sound_init(GKeyFile *keyfile)
 	int err, f;
 	char *device_name;
 	static GSourceFuncs funcs = {
-_sourcefunc_prepare,
-_sourcefunc_check,
-_sourcefunc_dispatch,
-0,
+		_sourcefunc_prepare,
+		_sourcefunc_check,
+		_sourcefunc_dispatch,
+		0,
 		0,
 		0
-};
+	};
 
 
 	sound_state = SOUND_STATE_IDLE;
@@ -714,13 +714,13 @@ _phoneui_utils_sound_volume_changed_cb(snd_hctl_elem_t *elem, unsigned int mask)
 	int volume;
 
 
-if (mask == SND_CTL_EVENT_MASK_REMOVE)
-return 0;
-if (mask  SND_CTL_EVENT_MASK_VALUE) {
-snd_ctl_elem_value_alloca(control);
-snd_hctl_elem_read(elem, control);
-type = _phoneui_utils_sound_volume_element_to_type(elem);
-if (type != CONTROL_END) {
+	if (mask == SND_CTL_EVENT_MASK_REMOVE)
+		return 0;
+	if (mask  SND_CTL_EVENT_MASK_VALUE) {
+		snd_ctl_elem_value_alloca(control);
+		snd_hctl_elem_read(elem, control);
+		type = _phoneui_utils_sound_volume_element_to_type(elem);
+		if (type != CONTROL_END) {
 			volume = phoneui_utils_sound_volume_get(type);
 			g_debug(Got alsa volume change for control '%s', new value: %d%%,
 controls

fails to call from contacts if phone# contains any non-number?

2010-06-21 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi guys,

It has been a while since I've been observing this but finally decided
to email after the last upgrade today.

I have my contacts synced from gmail using PISI (Thank you Michael), I
am using SHR, and I have somewhat a variety of formats for numbers
specifications, e.g.

2345678900
(234) 567-8900
+1 (234) 567-8900

etc

the problem is, that it seems that  if there is any non-digit in the
phone #, it fails to actually initiate the call. e.g. here is example --
I've called contact with only numbers in phone #, then added a space
after 1 - and it failed to call:

Successful:

== phoneuid.log ==
2010.06.21 15:28:07.720893 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: Calling callback with 
number 12345678900
2010.06.21 15:28:07.721323 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: 
_list_call_number_callback: 12345678900
2010.06.21 15:28:07.721673 [libphone-ui]MESSAGE: Inititating a call to 
12345678900

2010.06.21 15:28:07.735265 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: callback done
2010.06.21 15:28:07.735662 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: Scheduling inwin 
destruction
2010.06.21 15:28:07.775475 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: Destructing number 
selection inwin

== fsogsmd.log ==
2010-06-21T19:28:08.160951Z [INFO]  libfsotransport 0710:2: SRC: %N0187 - 
[ EXT: I, Both AEC and Noise reduction are active, OK ]
2010-06-21T19:28:08.847051Z [INFO]  libfsotransport 0710:3: URC: [ %CPRI: 
1,2 ]

== phoneuid.log ==
2010.06.21 15:28:08.116505 [libphone-ui]DEBUG: _call_status_handler: 
call 1: 1
2010.06.21 15:28:08.141531 [phoneuid]   DEBUG: 
org.shr.phoneuid.CallManagement.DisplayOutgoing
2010.06.21 15:28:08.142640 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: window_new
2010.06.21 15:28:08.143073 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: malloc'ed
2010.06.21 15:28:08.143531 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: done
2010.06.21 15:28:08.505643 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: window_view_show()

and everything works as it should


Failing (just nothing happens):

== phoneuid.log ==
2010.06.21 15:27:37.475525 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: Calling callback with 
number 1 2345678900
2010.06.21 15:27:37.475961 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: 
_list_call_number_callback: 1 2345678900
2010.06.21 15:27:37.476320 [libphone-ui]MESSAGE: Inititating a call to 
1 2345678900

2010.06.21 15:27:37.491266 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: callback done
2010.06.21 15:27:37.491672 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: Scheduling inwin 
destruction
2010.06.21 15:27:37.532375 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: Destructing number 
selection inwin

== phoneuid.log ==
2010.06.21 15:27:45.041779 [libphone-ui-shr]DEBUG: showing contact 
/org/freesmartphone/PIM/Contacts/188


I am not sure which part of the tandem here should take care about filtering
out the phone number?

Another issue that if I click 'Release' while successful call happening, I 
would get a message about:

== phoneuid.log ==
2010.06.21 15:28:15.352924 [libphone-ui-shr]WARNING: Failed adding a 
contact: (0) Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 649, in 
_message_cb
(candidate_method, parent_method) = _method_lookup(self, method_name, 
interface_name)
  File /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/dbus/service.py, line 244, in 
_method_lookup
raise UnknownMethodException('%s is not a valid method of interface %s' % 
(method_name, dbus_interface))
UnknownMethodException: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: Unknown 
method: GetContent is not a valid method of interface 
org.freesmartphone.PIM.Contact


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Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release

2009-10-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
GREAT JOB!

I would advice to tag and git push --tags, that would make github
automagically generate tarballs for the releases available in 

http://github.com/crei/evopedia/downloads

Would it be possible also to sanitize dumps to exclude images and
provide those from your webpage (as well as full dumps)? that
might make english version fit within available free space on my SD ;)

On Sat, 10 Oct 2009, Christian wrote:
 I have put the source for the modified mediawiki and the dump scripts as
 branches in http://github.com/crei/evopedia/. Please do not hesitate to
 ask me if you do not get it runnung. I have not yet created an english
 dump mainly because it would take so long, although I am sure that the
 dump process can be improved.

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Re: evopedia 0.2.3 release

2009-10-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

On Tue, 13 Oct 2009, Christian wrote:
 I don't really understand. There should be no images in the dumps at
 all, only html files and coordinate information as symlinks. The images
 are only loaded from the wikipedia servers if there is a connection to
 the internet.
ah... sorry I've probably got confused with
wget -nv 
http://download.wikimedia.org/$LANGwiki/$DATE/$LANGwiki-$DATE-image.sql.gz;
 -O $DESTDIR/wiki-latest-image.sql.gz
and
 echo Importing images...
in
http://github.com/crei/evopedia/blob/576d085e62297d1566c3d82d722acb4220b3da2f/createdump.sh

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Re: I am working on Debian packages for atd-over-fso (was [Qt Extended] debian image)

2009-04-02 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
do you mean that whenever that is done you will be ready to package
Debian packages for ffalarms? ;)

On Fri, 03 Apr 2009, Łukasz Pankowski wrote:

 Franky Van Liedekerke liede...@telenet.be writes:

  So this evening I'll play a bit with that image (I need to add atd from 
  angstrom to get the alarms to work probably) and see about the bluetooth 
  thingie.

 May be you will be interested: I am just working on Debian packages of
 atd-over-fso [1] (port of atd working on top of fso), chances are I
 will finish tomorrow.

 [1] http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/?group_id=260

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Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-19 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi All,

I've been cherishing the idea for a while but got no spare time to even
code a proof of concept. so I decided to share it with you so someone
could do that for the common advantage ;)

Indeed we can't register both touches -- as a result hardware returns
midpoint. BUT what if

 you touch screen with two fingers (at some inter-finger distance like
 half of screen width) not at the same time but within
lets say 100-200ms. Ie you click with one finger just slightly before
the other one.

 then driver reports 2 coordinates where there is a significant
 immediate jump from first coordinate to the midpoint between the two,
 which would be as much as 1/2 of distance between the fingers.

 such behavior would signal that 2 fingers are on the screen!

 then if you move 2nd finger somewhere, midpoint would move and that
 movement can be taken as a multitouch gesture, ie  if you are expanding
 2nd finger away from first one -- it is like 'zoom-out' or increase of
 smth. analogously, by comparing to the first coordinate (of 1st finger)
 rotations / horizontal zoomin/ vertical zooming etc could be derived
 
 multitouch gesture mode would stop when fingers leave the screen or
 there is once again a singificant jump from prev coordinate (like you
 raise one finger up prior to the other one)

alternative mode can be that after 'two finger' non-synchroneous touch
which switches to multitouch mode you drive your gesture with only
second finger (ie raise the first one off the screen) -- that would
allow for better control over the gesture since no averaging of
coordinates between two points would happen. And again, multitouch mode
is left whenever finger is raised of the screen.

if someone is to implement/test such approach, qwo might be a nice code
base to start from... alternatively I guess tslib for those with
debian+fbdev xserver.

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Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-19 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
you can do rotation as well -- just a little bit of 'logic' to decide
either it is a linear or circular motion (of 2nd finger in respect to
the 1st one)

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote:

I have wondered if this was possible before, and I don't see why it
can't be implemented, but it is limited as the only motion it could
really detect (I would think) is moving the fingers closer or further,
and if you move both fingers apart at the same rate, the midpoint
doesn't move, so you have to know how to use it right. Still, I'd like
to see it implemented, since it should (in theory) work once you get
used to it.
Just my 2 cents...

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Re: Multitouch on FR ... imho should be possible to mimic

2009-03-19 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
that is why may be 2nd way (raising 1st finger up after 2nd reached the
screen, so there are 2 jumps in coordinates: d/2, and d/2 in a single
direction) might be preferable way -- then you drive your 'multitouch'
mode with any gesture you like while assuming that 'other' finger is
still in the original position...

actually it can be two separate modes
1. two fingers on screen -- use for moving
2. 2nd finger on screen -- rotation, whatelse ;)

I think clever solution can jump between the two of them (depending on
either you again put 1st finger back on the screen)... just a little
tiny state machine ;)

On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, The Digital Pioneer wrote:

Ahh, right, of course. You just have to remember to keep one finger
still. :)


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Re: Illume - Command line to display the keyboard ?

2009-03-18 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
thanks for the snippet!

but imho the best (and proper) way would be to create an illume
action (not external script) so it could be assignable to a shortcut

On Wed, 18 Mar 2009, Francesco de Virgilio wrote:

 kimaidou ha scritto:
  Oups, sorry I just had not thought there was some help !
  Thanks a lot, it works well.

  I think you should package it into an simple ipk file, and put it on
  opkg.org http://opkg.org, so that everybody can enjoy it !

 Yeah, could anyone package it? :) It'll be very useful!

  Anyway thanks a lot

 Thanks from me :)
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Re: Debian package for pythm Was: [debian] Packaging python apps, f.e. pythm...

2009-03-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

On Mon, 16 Mar 2009, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote:
  (pkg-fso for example). To achieve this the requirements to get into pkg-fso 
  shouldn't be too demanding imho.
 I thought pkg-fso was a temporary repository for packages that are
 aiming to enter debian. I would be surprised if I got some low-quality
 stuff from there.
and I aim to ship pythm into Debian as soon as all dependencies are
available (python-edbus is the one and it is to be provided by pkg-fso
team) in the Debian main

Debian package is already almost complete imho (just missing manpage and
need a correct xpm icon for menu). Not sure what additional steps I need
to do to make the package 'high quality' ;)

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Debian package for pythm Was: [debian] Packaging python apps, f.e. pythm...

2009-03-15 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
as promised

for those desired to run pythm on their Debian-powered FRs:

http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-all/python/pythm_0.5.5+git20090315-1~pre1_all.deb
path to source dsc
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/source/python/pythm_0.5.5+git20090315-1~pre1.dsc

although it is also available from git repo

http://github.com/yarikoptic/pythm/tree/debian

n.b. I will see if I can get this package into pkg-fso repository so
there would be no need to add yet another source if you want to track
mine

This version is the latest Dylan had + few of my modifications + little
fix for it to run on Debian + debian packaging

As soon as pkg-fso Debian team ships python-edbus (primary delay is the
prerequisites in the NEW queue of Debian), I will ship pythm into Debian
main (unstable or experimental depending where python-edbus ends up).

Cheers! ;)

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

 I want to let you know that I am going to package
 ITP:
 http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org/msg621478.html

 and upload pythm into Debian main (probably later on this week...
 preliminary packaging is already done). It will be based on Dylan's and
 my fork of pythm (some changes from Paul TT were already absorbed).
 Sources are available from https://github.com/yarikoptic/pythm and
 debian packaging will appear in a debian branch out there in the
 foreseeable future ;)

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Re: [debian] e17 - questions

2009-03-15 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
see
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=514018

On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Daniel Benoy wrote:

 I installed your packages and they worked for the keyboard problem for me :)

 Unfortunately I still don't see any icons on my 'home' desktop.  :/

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Re: [debian] Packaging python apps, f.e. pythm (was: Installing *.ipk/*.opk part 1: Dependencies)

2009-03-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I want to let you know that I am going to package
ITP:
http://www.mail-archive.com/debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org/msg621478.html

and upload pythm into Debian main (probably later on this week...
preliminary packaging is already done). It will be based on Dylan's and
my fork of pythm (some changes from Paul TT were already absorbed).
Sources are available from https://github.com/yarikoptic/pythm and
debian packaging will appear in a debian branch out there in the
foreseeable future ;)

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009, Marcel wrote:

 Am Thursday 12 March 2009 23:25:28 schrieb Timo Juhani Lindfors:
  Rask Ingemann Lambertsen r...@sygehus.dk writes:
   Nice it would be grat in future if we (debian users) could just add opkg
   repos as deb ones...  maybe with different priority... it may be
   difficult and risky, but indeed useful!

  Wouldn't it be much easier to just create real debian packages?

  If you have some example programs I can give examples of how you can
  create unofficial debian packages of those.

 Hello list ;),
 Hello Timo,

 I'd like to package pythm for debian (always copying the svn checkout to 
 r...@neo: isn't that satisfactory), but the tar.gz only contains a setup.py, 
 no autotools-files which is assumed by the debian maint/packaging guide.
 How may I approach this?
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-03-04 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

 As I mentioned before, I am planning to add some sort of session
 management. It might be too IO intensive to cache all the tag data (as
 opposed to simply remembering file name), but it is a possibility.
actually I think that storing them along with filenames in those
'sessions' would speed this up since separate files would not need to be
processed for id3 extraction upon loading of the session file.  id3 tags
within a loaded session might be updated upon user request or whenever a
corresponding file is played/queued/whatever ;)

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-02-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 1) Yaroslav Halchenko got me off my lazy butt and we are going to be
 actively collaborating on further pythm hacking. This is good because
 he is already correcting my horrible python :^)  My git fork can be
 found at http://github.com/negi/pythm for all those interested.
The least I can do is to motivate people ;)

Let me now describe positive side-effects of exposing code in git on
github (instead of SVN on projects.om)

Now anyone of you can 

* clone pythm fork (better off from Dylan's one, although I will
  keep mine also in sync with his)

* do anything you like -- fixes, enhancements, whatever; and regularly
  commit your changes into your local git clone of pythm (nobody will
  see those yet since you would be committing into your local copy)

* if you decide that your changes worth exposing and contributing for
  others to be used, instead of sending patches anywhere, just 

  - get yourself account on github (for our purposes free account is
sufficient)
  - fork Dylan's or mine repository
  - add your fresh fork as an additional remote in your local pythm
clone
  - push your changes into your fork on github

Voilà -- now everyone can see your changes, cherry pick or merge them
into his own repository (like mine or Dylan's).  That really allows to
facilitate community project ;-) and pythm is imho very well worth such
an effort.
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Re: Linball game 0.2 version

2009-02-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
just a quick trick for users of such a good client as mutt:

 you have ability to break 'hi-jacked' thread into a separate one
 by using shortcut '#' which corresponds to function 'break-thread' iirc

On Wed, 11 Feb 2009, Vincent MEURISSE wrote:

 Please don't use the Reply button to create a new thread. Good mail client 
 get 
 fucked with that.
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Re: Qwo update

2009-02-09 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
oki doki -- built 0.4 version under sid's chroot on my FR

you should be able to get it from 
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.4-1_armel.deb

also I've fixed up repository configuration so now there is Release file
for armel, so you should be able to apt-get install it if you add
following line

deb http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba sid perspect

to your /etc/apt/sources.list

but prior doing apt-get update you would need to add the key for this
archive to the list of trusted:

wget http://www.onerussian.com/Linux/rumba-debianarchive.asc
cat rumba-debianarchive.asc | apt-key add -


NB: I've not tested myself this new package, so you might hit various
issues ;-)

NB#2: qwo package submission into Debian is still in the NEW queue...
might take few more weeks to pass NEW (if it does pass on the 1st try)

Enjoy

On Mon, 09 Feb 2009, kimaidou wrote:

Hi all
Is there a new package for Debian too ? I am using the 0.3 on my
hackable, and I would like to test the last one.
NB : for those who wants to install it on debian/hackable, do :
 cd ~
 wget 
 [1]http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb;

 apt-get install libconfig6
 dpkg -i qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb
 cd /usr/bin
 mv xkbd xkbd.moved
 ln -s qwo xkbd

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Re: Neon 0.9.6 is out

2009-02-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
and if you succeed to some extent, I could mentor you a bit and we could
push it into Debian (I am a DD).  Unfortunately myself I have no spare
time atm to yet another project to accomplish mission myself, but it
should be quite easy.

I would also suggest to simply look at some other python-driven app,
e.g. cycle (just apt-get source cycle and cd in there), although I would
recommend to use cdbs atm -- that would make debian/rules really tiny.


On Tue, 03 Feb 2009, azmodie wrote:

 http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/

 2009/2/3 Valery Febvre vfeb...@easter-eggs.com:
  kimaidou wrote:
  Is it possible to release a version for Debian ? Since it is written in
  python, it should run smoothly ?

  Yes, if EFL library (evas, ecore, edje) and python bindings are
  available, it should run without changes.
  I develop Neon under debian so I am pretty sure of that.
  Unfortunately, I don't know how to build a debian package. :-(

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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-30 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Dylan once again

what about ability to seek within a song? is it doable for gstreamer?

On Fri, 30 Jan 2009, Dylan Reilly wrote:

 To answer a few questions:

 1) The new gstreamer back-end uses mutagen to read tag data from mp3
 and ogg and not ID3. You will want to use the package I made for
 mutagen since no other exists. I did not bother updating the mplayer
 back-end as consider that deprecated at this point. That one still
 uses the ID3.py library which I did not include.
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-29 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
wonderful - thank you Dylan, pythm feels really nice now with gstreamer.
I wonder if are going to add seeking support to change position within
the song with gstreamer? it would be really great!

btw -- what version of ID3 python's library do you use?  om's
repository seems to lack any package for it, so I've just installed the
copy from my debian box which is 1.2-6.2, but that one also pukes with

error executing:'TITLE'

on my mp3s (like someone else reported before I believe)

On Thu, 29 Jan 2009, Dylan Reilly wrote:

 I am still in the process of making changes, but I have some packages
 if anyone wants to try it. This version has the option of using a
 gstreamer back-end (the default with the packaged config file) instead
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Re: QWO tentative package for Debian is out

2009-01-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
stop -- do you mean with illume? have you switched to it in the
configuration? 

On Mon, 19 Jan 2009, dsca...@gmail.com wrote:

 OK it works!
 now i have to understand how ;-)
 d

 [it does not work under enlightenment but it's not a qwo matter]

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QWO tentative package for Debian is out

2009-01-18 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I've built tentative Debian package under H1 (based on Debian), so it
should work on any more or less up-to-date Debian-based distro

deb file for armel is available from
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-armel/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_armel.deb
or for i386 if you run Debian there as well
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/binary-i386/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3_i386.deb

you can dget sources using this dsc
http://itanix.rutgers.edu/rumba/dists/sid/perspect/source/x11/qwo_0.3+git20090110+6db30-1~pre3.dsc

or just fetching from git repository (which will move eventually I hope
into upstream's):
http://git.onerussian.com/?p=deb/qwo.git;a=summary

There is still an issue to resolve with .desktop file, so I am waiting
on upstream's ideas/feedback, but you can give it a try on your phone.

Also, I guess, it is needed to discuss proper way (alternatives?) on how
to switch between different keyboards implementations on debian systems.
For now, you can do evil:

cd /usr/bin
mv xkbd xkbd.moved
ln -s qwo xkbd

to have qwo your default keyboard appearing on AUX press

since I had no time to figure out if used keyboard is configurable at
all atm. but I've given a try -- qwo works fine -- I can enter text ;-)

On Sat, 17 Jan 2009, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

 nice news! but in which repos will it be placed? unstable or testing?
 testing is frozen already, so it can't get in there directly, thus
 'unstable' (ie sid)

 For testing (ie lenny atm) we can create a backport and I could host it
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Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

2009-01-17 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
nice news! but in which repos will it be placed? unstable or testing?
testing is frozen already, so it can't get in there directly, thus
'unstable' (ie sid)

For testing (ie lenny atm) we can create a backport and I could host it
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Re: [All] To build a better music player

2009-01-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Dylan for improving pythm -- few days ago I've set up original
version and was pleased to be able to listen to my mp3s from FR.
Now I will give a try to your mods as soon as I get some spare time

I guess it would be great if you expose your development a bit -- did
you start off from SVN checkout of original pythm? may be it is worth
creating a branch in pythm's SVN repository, or at least
publish your development elsewhere? Or may be Matthias would not mind
most of your changes, so they could get in the main line of pythm's
development?

few days ago (right after I've tried pythm) I've asked on pythm's forum
about future developments [1]. Matthias Hans (original author) seems to
be busy with other things, but Paul has expressed his desire to
collaborate and mentioned that he did already some changes of his own.

It would be great to unite the effort, but for that single point of
entry for the source is preferred I guess.

Keep on useful development!

[1] http://projects.openmoko.org/forum/forum.php?thread_id=850forum_id=669

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Dylan Reilly wrote:

 The locale error is a red herring.

 I will try to devote some time this weekend to fixing the problem with
 ogg. I was short sighted when I added the ID3 tag reading and forgot
 to make it work with ogg too. If you are impatient, you can look in
 mplayerbackend.py and comment out the part that uses ID3 to read file
 details. It's in the function that loads files into a play list.
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Re: handwriting recognition. was:Re: Dual touch display

2009-01-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
qwo is on the way to debian...

Christian Amsuess has done initial packaging, we are just resolving some
issues, upstream moved to using git and did some handy fixes... some
time very soon I will upload it into Debian (hopefully late this
weekend).

what problems did you particularly encountered while building it?
may be there is some arm specific challenge (I've not tried to built it
yet on my FR)

On Fri, 16 Jan 2009, Davide Scaini wrote:

i'm trying cellwriter on my debian...
- do you know a way to start it on e17 no in fullscreen mode?
I tried to pack qwo (deb) with no success right now... hope to have
news soon.
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Re: New 2008.12 Release

2008-12-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
guys -- looks for some email in the mailing list which described what
packages to remove to bring it to that desired low startup time... I
believe it is also described in wiki somewhere

I've done it on my FDOM + updates and it is indeed reasonably quick
(didn't measure exact timing though)

6 sec to press power should be improved imho -- there is no need for it
to be more than 3 sec (enough time imho to differ between Power-AUx, or
AUX - Power presses to get into different UBoots)

On Fri, 19 Dec 2008, Vasco Névoa wrote:
 With OM2008.9/testing and ASU theme + gsm0710muxd service, it'  
 definitely around 60 seconds.

  It's the faster i have seen on FR currently.
 Yep. :)

  Maybe it's partly because (thanks to ;) ) QI?
 That should only make a difference in the first part of boot (until  
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Re: Question about a file I am not aware

2008-12-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I guess this question didn't re-circulate on the list for a while, so...

just look into

/opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Storage.conf

to get better feeling of control over the situation ;-)


On Sat, 20 Dec 2008, Bernd (Jesus McCloud) Prünster wrote:
 afaik it is autmatically created to index files that my be useful to 
 qtopia, you contacts are stored in the flash memory of you phone, not on 
 sdcard (see wiki: Pre-Flash Backup i don't remember the path, but it 
 is sth like /home/root/Documents and /home/root/Applications)
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want your FR to start faster console based apps? ;-)

2008-12-19 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
ok -- I've become annoyed by the start time of some apps which I do run
in terminal (e.g. screen). 

I've tried to run them on another ARM based beast -- my router -- and it
starts immediately...

ok -- a bit of stracing to figure out that some considerable time is
spent processing ... /etc/termcap

opkg remove termcap

and now it takes a second instead of 10 to start screen ;-) it might be
that the base image doesn't have it installed but I've been running FDOM +
multitude of upgrades, so may be installation of termcap some how went under
the hood?

So decided to share ;-)

Do we ever need /etc/termcap? may be so for some elderly software which
doesn't make use of curses... actually description of termcap-compat
package in Debian (Debian of FR doesn't install it obviousely)

 The termcap-compat package provides the libtermcap.so.2 and /etc/termcap
 files which are required to run non-Debian, binary-only termcap-based
 programs. Since libc6-based programs are hopefully modern enough to be
 linked with ncurses (or slang), this package only provides a libc5-based
 libtermcap library.


So I doubt that we would need it, and there are no other packages which depend
on it -- so it should be safe to remove it

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Re: FreeRunner Happiness

2008-12-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 With all the recent talk about FR problems I think its a good time to share 
 my 
 recent good experiences.

seconded... Sure everybody's mileage varies. At the beginning, I
thought I will be able to play with Freerunner more than I became
capable to do due to time constraints.  Since FR became my primary phone
from the first day I bought it right after it appeared for sales, I had
no chance but to keep it running.

Since some time I switched to FDOM, then I upgraded it with daily
testing, broke it, figured out what was the problem, switched to illume
theme, found why it segfaults in many places (report on the list and in
bugreport about those evil shadows), so I didn't have to switch to
software_x (which is slower), installed russian keyboard, installed more
gadgets of all kinds, and the beast is running nicely -- I do use it as
a daily phone, I do make/receive calls, I do send/receive SMS but really rarely,
I do use GPS from time to time, battery time has improved considerably
so I charge it whenever I recall to do so.

Unfortunately it still does lack some basic phone functionality
(mailbox alters, stable alarm etc), but I bet they will come ;)
Sure thing there are glitches, and many people have different
experience, but so far I see steady growth of improvement/fixes/new
projects/joy. Thus -- I am only thankful to openmoko team and all the
developers/users who spend their precious private time making freerunner
the only thus the best ( ;) ) open-sourced phone.

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Re: top bar clock in testing

2008-12-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
confirm -- the same effect 

On Thu, 11 Dec 2008, Ed Kapitein wrote:

 Hi Bill,

 I get an 
 Forbidden
 You don't have permission to access /freerunner/illume.edj on this
 server.
 If i try to download the edje file.

 Kind regards,
 Ed(je)
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Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing

2008-12-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 Beware:
 at least on my system, when I replace the base asu theme with the  
 illume theme, Enlightenment crashes a lot.
just wanted to confirm since I am not sure on how to troubleshoot it

it crashes with
*** glibc detected *** enlightenment: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x004fcf98 
***
in the terminal

strace is not very informative to me (I have no clue in internals of 
enlightment)

[pid  1122] write(13, 
;\3\5\0%\0\240\0\0\0\0\0Z\1\302\0D\0\22\0\201\3\n\0$\0..., 64) = 64
[pid  1122] read(13, 
\1\1\357A\0\0\0\0\21\2\240\0\350\341\25\0+\0\0\0(5\21\0..., 32) = 32
[pid  1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 2388}, NULL) = 0  
   
[pid  1122] write(13, 8\3\4\0%\0\240\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0, 16) = 16
[pid  1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 8092}, NULL) = 0 
[pid  1122] ioctl(13, FIONREAD, [0])= 0   
[pid  1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 14974}, NULL) = 0   
[pid  1122] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
[pid  1122] write(2,  SEGMENTATION FAULT \n, 29) = 29

where 13 is

lrwx--1 root root   64 Dec  3 12:31 /proc/1122/fd/13 - 
inotify


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Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing

2008-12-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
ok... got a backtrace 

[Switching to Thread 0x4088fba0 (LWP 1851)]
0x407c396c in _int_free () from /lib/libc.so.6
(gdb) bt full
#0  0x407c396c in _int_free () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#1  0x407c3cc8 in free () from /lib/libc.so.6
No symbol table info available.
#2  0x40dad958 in _ds_shpix_free () from 
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so
No locals.
#3  0x40daf7d8 in _ds_shadow_reshape () from 
/usr/lib/enlightenment/modules/dropshadow/linux-gnueabi-arm/module.so
No locals.
#4  0x0002a0c0 in _e_main_cb_idler_before ()
No locals.
#5  0x4062d804 in _ecore_idle_enterer_call () from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
No symbol table info available.
#6  0x40630ea0 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libecore.so.0
No symbol table info available.


and unloaded drop dropshadow module still alive although I did a few things 
;-)
do you have dropshadow enabled?

also previously stracing it was making it less prone to crashing... I wondered
why -- now it seems to match -- it never entered _ecore_idle_enterer_call I
guess -- was constantly somewhat busy? 

On Wed, 03 Dec 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

  Beware:
  at least on my system, when I replace the base asu theme with the  
  illume theme, Enlightenment crashes a lot.
 just wanted to confirm since I am not sure on how to troubleshoot it

 it crashes with
 *** glibc detected *** enlightenment: malloc(): memory corruption: 0x004fcf98 
 ***
 in the terminal

 strace is not very informative to me (I have no clue in internals of 
 enlightment)

 [pid  1122] write(13, 
 ;\3\5\0%\0\240\0\0\0\0\0Z\1\302\0D\0\22\0\201\3\n\0$\0..., 64) = 64
 [pid  1122] read(13, 
 \1\1\357A\0\0\0\0\21\2\240\0\350\341\25\0+\0\0\0(5\21\0..., 32) = 32
 [pid  1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 2388}, NULL) = 0
  
 [pid  1122] write(13, 8\3\4\0%\0\240\0\0\0\10\0\0\0\0\0, 16) = 16
 [pid  1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 8092}, NULL) = 0 
 [pid  1122] ioctl(13, FIONREAD, [0])= 0   
 [pid  1122] gettimeofday({1701625338, 14974}, NULL) = 0   
 [pid  1122] --- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) @ 0 (0) ---
 [pid  1122] write(2,  SEGMENTATION FAULT \n, 29) = 29

 where 13 is

 lrwx--1 root root   64 Dec  3 12:31 /proc/1122/fd/13 - 
 inotify


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Re: Raster keyboard on daily testing

2008-12-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

  and unloaded drop dropshadow module still alive although I did a few
  things ;-) do you have dropshadow enabled?
 where did you do this ?
illume configuration gui - modules -- there you can see if it is loaded
and unload it

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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

2008-10-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

On Tue, 28 Oct 2008, Holger Freyther wrote:
  or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-)
 If you change the mentioned key Contacts and the Contact Selection Dialog 
 will 
 show the search bar. The Contact Selection didn't work because Trolltech copy 
 and pasted the 80% of the same code to multiple places. So far we have found 
 two and patches both of them (actually trevino spotted both).

 does this answer your question?
I might be still slow... what key should I change?
may be I haven't described situation clearly

I do have 'extended' Contacts.conf which has 
[default]
EnableFindBar=1

thus I do have a search bar in the 'Contacts', but I don't have it
whenever I click on Contacts from within the Dialer.

So I guess additional piece in Contacts code wasn't patched or I am not
running desired version of qpe (using last FDOM without additional
upgrades)
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Re: Contacts - Fdom vs. OM2008.8

2008-10-27 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
  ps : well , fdom is not V om , those guys are working on stability thing ,
  we are working on feature , funny , fat and dirty things!
 One of those dirty things is change config files, the standard 2008.9
 has this feature you only have tell it to not be so shy and show it :)
 If you look at the FDOMizer. script you will find all the dirty thing we
 have done to it :)
according to git log and 
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/commitlog/2008-September/006060.html

holger enabled it in qtopia build in september ... but for some reason
it wasn't enabled by default

also it seems to be not 'patched' in the view of contacts whenever it is
called from the dialer (person icon) -- and that is the most often
place where I look for contacts... now I will need to start contacts
first I guess, heh heh

or may be Holger would add 1 more patch in the right spot? ;-)

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Re: dillo security question

2008-10-21 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 Who is the author of this port of dillo to arm4? There is no reference
 and the only available download site is http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/
that page is pointed to from the original dillo's website
http://www.dillo.org/download.html

thus it might be worth asking dillo's author(s)?

.dsc file lists
Maintainer: Devid Filoni [EMAIL PROTECTED]
so it might be the same person who did ipk?


 So what? Who did this port and is it safe to install this on the FR?
 I'm asking because I think it would be easy to write some maleware which
 let your FR dial every second some expensive service number or send out
 SMS as SPAM. Don't get me wrong, I'm only speaking about the possibility
 and that we should know *what* we install on our FR. I'm wrong?
nope

possibility of malware on FR exists, but they will have hard time to do
anything 'useful' due to the variety of ports and inconsistent
interfaces :-P

For those needing security assurance I would recommend to stick to
Debian

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Re: Dillo: lightweight webbrowser v2.0

2008-10-17 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
wow -- now I've tried it -- it is indeed fast!!! it is minimal and
doesn't render some crappy pages (like mine ;-)) but it feels faster
on FR than firefox on my desktop ;-)

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008, Xavier Cremaschi wrote:
 Thanks for sharing. Dillo is great and fast !
 Xavier.
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Dillo: lightweight webbrowser v2.0

2008-10-16 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Just wanted to share, 

that Dillo was featured in the recent LWN http://lwn.net/Articles/303502/
Lightweight, Linux-compatible browser evolves (DesktopLinux.com)
http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS6922044112.html

there are builds for debian (no arm port but dsc+diff are there so should
be easily buildable) and there is
http://misc.andi.de1.cc/dillo/dillo_2.0-r0_armv4t.ipk although I've not tried
either of them since I forgotten my usb cable at work and FR fails to connect
to me WEPed Wifi.

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Re: FBReader now working on the FreeRunner

2008-10-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hey Michael!

You are my today's hero! ;-)

Would it be not too much to ask from you to do the same for the latest
release of fbreader (0.8.17[1]) instead of elderly 0.8.2 which we have now?

[1] http://www.fbreader.org/fbreader-sources-0.8.17.tgz

Best regards
Yarik

On Sun, 12 Oct 2008, Michael Sheldon wrote:

 Hi all,
 To install it simply run:

 opkg install http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/enca_1.9-r3_armv4t.ipk 
 http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader_0.8.2a-r6+elleopatches_om-gta02.ipk
 (all on one line)

 For those interested the patch can also be downloaded from 
 http://mikeasoft.com/~mike/openmoko/fbreader-openmoko.patch.

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Re: Why qtopia uses framebuffer and ASU can't?

2008-09-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

 for example. lets say i spend 1 second to write data to video ram - that is 1
 second i CANNOT spend on anything else. the glamo limits write rates to about

so why then during boot of X in ASU (2008.8) those precious cycles are
spent on a 'box animation'? uff

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Re: Repository and Images

2008-08-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 We want to let the community join and give commit rights to individuals. In 
 the OpenWRT world they are able to give commit rights to single packages but 
 they use SVN. Is that possible with git as well ?
since noone followed up I will add my .1 cents:

I don't know if a fine-grained control is possible to allow which user
could modify which subdirectories. BUT there is a way to control what
user is allowed to advance which head -- ie which branch could be
modified by which user.

See
http://developer.berlios.de/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1812group_id=2#access
for the description of such setup.

I guess if you are to have relatively large number of allowed users and
lack of a person who would be responsible for merging per-person
branches, the easiest way is just to create .community branches
(e.g.  ...asu.dev.community), to which add permission to commute to a
set of community members.

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Re: ASU / om2008.8 - opkg upgrade failed - can't ssh into the phone

2008-08-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- I got into some similar situation a week ago after somewhat
extensive upgrade + install party ;-) (prelink etc) -- just go
into terminal and try to run smth like

ifconfig

;-) would it segfault or not? also do 'lsmod' and see if you've got any
besides ipv6

I am not sure how I did it but now I can't load any module, most of the
programs crash with segfault... can't ssh into etc... can't load
usbserial module to try to setup serial connection to get into the beast
from a computer -- I guess the only escape is to reflash but have
no time at the moment to set it up for use again and it remains to work
as a phone so I postponed for now. Actually I think battery life got
much better without all the useful stuff laying around in memory and
interfacing to all cool hardware ;-)

On Thu, 28 Aug 2008, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ssh: connect to host om-gta02.local port 22: Connection refused

 Obviously the sshd isn't running fr some rason.
 The screen on the FR is in console (text) mode, and there is no
 keyboard (on screen or otherwise) that I know.

 Is there a way to fix this without reflashing the kernel and / or rootfs?
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2008.8 (with updates) and wpa_supplicant == hang (is only me?)

2008-08-20 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
It seems that now I finally switched from qtopia to 2008.8 -- ie. it is
ready for me as a daily-used phone! YEAY!

but yesterday I've ran into a problem after I've tried to setup my
wireless the way I did long ago on 2007.2: copied my wpa_supplicant.conf
and tuned up interfaces with

iface eth0 inet dhcp
   wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf

but then whenever I do ifup eth0 (via ssh usb session) phone freezes
(screen remains powered -- no reaction to any touches or keys, even holding
power button for 10 sec does nothing).

before I try to do anything I wondered if anyone uses wpa_supplicant
succesfully (what kernel and wpa_supp versions?) or could confirm the same
issue as I have?

thanks in advance

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-15 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Well, that might be an idea to use both accelerometers. Currently
(in
more is usually better than less ;-) I haven't yet looked at the machine
learning part of the recognition you do (I know that you described it in
your MS thesis I think), but doubling the number of features for
classification/detection should have only positive effects here -- those
features are not bogus and well correlated with each other, thus I would
expect significant boost in performance.
And taking the fact that recognition works quite well already with just
a single accelerometer is great news -- it means that with 2 it should
be just better ;-)


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Re: Debian on the FreeRunner -- now official

2008-08-15 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
part of fso-utils package

thus

apt-get install fso-utils

if you have all needed repositories added to your sources.list

On Fri, 15 Aug 2008, Michael Tansella wrote:

 The installation works without any problems, but i get the following error 
 when I try to use the skript (http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner) for 
 adjusting the uboot environment:

 Dumping current uboot environment
 dfu-util - (C) 2007 by OpenMoko Inc.
 This program is Free Software and has ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY

 Opening USB Device 0x:0x...
 Claiming USB DFU Runtime Interface...
 Determining device status: state = appIDLE, status = 0
 Device really in Runtime Mode, send DFU detach request...
 Resetting USB...
 Opening USB Device...
 Found Runtime: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=9, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=2, 
 name=u-boot_env
 Claiming USB DFU Interface...
 Setting Alternate Setting ...
 Determining device status: state = dfuIDLE, status = 0
 dfuIDLE, continuing
 Transfer Size = 0x1000
 Merging debian menu entries into uboot environment
 ./configure-uboot.sh: line 80: uboot-envedit: command not found


 Where can I get uboot-envedit ?

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Re: Alpha 2 Release of Accelerometer-based Gestures, and Screen Orientation

2008-08-14 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
cool! Thanks!

1 quick question. wiki says: Remark: The Alpha 2 Release uses the TOP
accelerometer. Are you planing to develop the accelerometer further to
make use of all (ie both now) acceelerometers present at the same time
to improve sensitivity/specificity of the detection? :-)

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Re: Illume patch/question

2008-08-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
ok -- lets make this thread active so it catches OM people's eyes

 struggling is the placement of the operator name label. I did not manage to 
I wonder if illume or whatever has ability to popup a 'hint' window
and also make that GPS icon react on the 'click' -- then the best
solution imho would be simply to bring that pop-up for few seconds where
provider/signal strength/etc is displayed... similar to 2007.2 display
when it gets connected to the GSM network

 Here are the patches:
 source: http://www.gup.jku.at/~tkoeck/illume/illume_operator_name.patch
 freerunner.edc: http://www.gup.jku.at/~tkoeck/illume/freerunner_edc.patch

 Btw, how should patches be submitted (trac entry, posting on the project 
 page, 
 mail, ...)?
well -- my guess is through the trac BTS although it might be cumbersome

then it will not be lost in the hundreds of emails in the mailing list

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interesting read? (FOSS and communities)

2008-08-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I thought it might be an interesting read for some of you:

[1] Building an Open Source Community by Phil Whitehouse
 Unfortunately I am not familiar with this guy and his opinions, and
 imho his points listed in the article are somewhat idealistic (which
 doesn't actually make them bad). I will avoid citing any of them here,
 since you might spot peculiar ones on your own

[2] Producing  Open Source Software: How to Run a Successful Free
 Software Project by Karl Fogel
 It is referenced in comments to [1] and it seems to be much more
 extended than just a list of the main aspects. But let me just quote 1
 sentence from the introduction

 ,---
 | Running a free software project is not exactly like running a business
 | (imagine having to constantly negotiate the nature of your product with
 | a group of volunteers, most of whom you've never met!).
 `---

Enjoy the readings ;)

[1] https://fossbazaar.org/?q=content/building-open-source-community
[2] http://producingoss.com/

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[Was: Illume patch/question] Notification manager

2008-08-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Please pardon my ignorance but since
 one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in
 ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( 
I will elaborate a bit although once again please pardon my ignorance
since I've never developed such app, no looked into the existing
implementations, but I see quite a few use cases.

Shouldn't there be a typical MVC-design application which takes
care about notifications?  Probably by receiving them via dbus
(C(ontroller) part should take care).
V(iews) could be different -- from the basic home screen (list of apps
is imho not a home screen at all) alike in any normal phone or qtopia or
2007.2, to a short-lived pop-up appearing on a screen for few
(configured) seconds. Any family of notifications should get
a life-span (persistent or one-time).

I see quite a few use cases and few kinds of such notifications

Persistent ones -- which are visible until 'confirmed to be seen' by the
'responsible' app:

1. missed calls
2. voice mail
3. new mail
4. low battery
5. lost GPS signal
6. current GPS provider
7. Birthdays within next week
...

Those are cleared out by the corresponding application itself (via
additional message to the controller)

Spontaneous (visible for a limited pre-configured time only)
1. battery is fully charged or almost fully drained
2. someone clicked on smth to know about smth (like in the original
email)
3. is 1 mile away from pizzeria
4. GPS/WiFi/GSM/Accelerometers/Bluetooth was turned off/on


M(odel) here consists pretty much of different kinds of notifications
known, actions to be taken when clicked, optional expiration date, etc

I wonder how it was designed in 2007.2 since it at least looks like it
was closer to this idea, and it seems that it is one of the 'phone must
have' features.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2008, Carsten Haitzler wrote:

 On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 22:07:09 +0200 Thomas Köckerbauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 babbled:

 let me take a look. yes - you can do popups. though there is no theme or
 standard popup layout - you can always do your own or recycle an existing
 one, but it won't match the theme. as any form of popup was not specified in
 ASU's design - i pretty much have no nice and easy support for it. :( what is
 useful here is the code patches to get the nuts and bolts data. good work! i
 need to merge this and the FSO dbus support patches. i'll look at yours today
 and deal with the FSO ones from stefan now that i have dictionary
 lookup/correction support back in illume's keyboard. (though need to build an
 image and test...)

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-13 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Kelvie,

I wonder if you got it already... I placed an order but since I got
fascinated I also ordered some other things which weren't in stock --
thus I am waiting

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, Kelvie Wong wrote:

 On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 1:43 PM, Yaroslav Halchenko
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  GREAT CATCH!

  are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please
  update the thread whenever you try it?


 Yep.. I ordered/it shipped exactly a week ago, so it should be here
 next week (shipping from Hong Kong usually takes about that long).
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Re: Could someone explain me the + + + and the * at the bottom of thescreen (Om 2008.8) ?

2008-08-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
1. if special is smth to be used frequently then now * got the worst
place -- with finger it is nearly impossible to press in the left bottom
corner -- just try

2. in most of the situations those placeholders are EMPTY, so why to
keep them? may be there is a reasonable solution (not too much coding)
to hide them automagically if they are empty?? having empty +s is
plain silly. Another option is to make that panel floating as well as
the top panel -- click on ^ and it comes up with beautiful +s ;-)

On Tue, 12 Aug 2008, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:

 Hello,

 On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:43 AM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  They are place holders. In due course the functionality will be defined and
  deployed.

 Good enough.
 How do I remove them / configure them away until you announce that
 they will do something useful?

  The * button is for special functions

 I'm interested - what special functions?
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Re: FR and debian, seems it's progressing

2008-08-12 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 Just for the record: I just made a successful call on debian. Only hit
cool!
can you receive calls? ;-)

 In case anybody is interested the process listing looks like

 ginger:~# ps axf
   PID TTY  STAT   TIME COMMAND

we better get hands on your /etc (/etc/apt in particular) and dpkg 
--get-selections ;-)

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Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-11 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko


For reference, the Qtopia 4.32-080808 uses the kernel named
uImage-2.6.24+git30+436204281bcd1fe5999ad6589ea7ab1b5360c352-r2-om-gta0
2.bin
Ok, so I don't know what that really long name means or who wrote it .
:-) No one confirmed Yaroslav or corrected him either so this is the
kernel.
I can confirm ;-) it is stock OM kernel from some date in end of July I
believe -- whenever I got that qtopia tarball I compared to existing one
on the web -- now 200807 is not available from
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/freerunner/200807
thus I can't check which one exactly

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Re: Upgrading on Qtopia

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 I hope that is ok.
nope -- it is not actually -- leads to all kinds of problems

just remove all those qtopia packages and reinstall /opt/QTopia from
trolltech's

opkg upgrade 
is safe as far as it doesn't install any *qtopia* packages which install
also under /opt/Qtopia (which has to be changed by OM people in their
distribution.)

see 
https://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1756#comment:5

for more information


 However when you do the opkg update  opkg upgrade it seems to install a 
 bunch of stuff we don't 
 need like...

 qtopia-phone-x11*

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debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
It seems that many issues are linked to qpe shipped with 2008.2 thus it
would be great if people know how to get valuable debug information

I didn't install famous 2008.2 yeat so I am asking someone to confirm
that this works (it came from irc chat with lpotter):

 cp /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf ~/Settings/Trolltech

 and then you might enable some debug targets, /etc/init.d/qpe restart

 and see/dump logread into a file

it should provide significant amount of information of what qpe is doing

if that works on qpe -- craft a wiki page describing it or just confirm
here and I will do that.


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Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
no -- the same was on qtopia -- but on OM it wasn't under
~/Settings/Trolltech right? so it wasn't yet enabled -- to enable it you
need to copy it there afaik

have you tried to copy it and see if logread gets populated with
messages? :-)

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Thomas B. wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 10:47:53AM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
  It seems that many issues are linked to qpe shipped with 2008.2 thus it
  would be great if people know how to get valuable debug information

  I didn't install famous 2008.2 yeat so I am asking someone to confirm
  that this works (it came from irc chat with lpotter):

   cp /opt/Qtopia/etc/default/Trolltech/Log.conf ~/Settings/Trolltech

   and then you might enable some debug targets, /etc/init.d/qpe restart

   and see/dump logread into a file

  it should provide significant amount of information of what qpe is doing

  if that works on qpe -- craft a wiki page describing it or just confirm
  here and I will do that.

 Good idea. But I had a look into that file on my OM2008.8 and it looks
 like (nearly) all of the logging options are already enabled (see
 attachment). Maybe the OpenMoko developers already tweaked it for
 maximum logging?

 Regards,
 Thomas


 [Translation]
 File=QtopiaDefaults
 Context=Logging

 [ApplicationLauncher]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Application Execution
 Help[] = Application lifecycle management, from launching to termination.

 [ApplicationLayer]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Application Layer
 Help[] = Qtopia Value Space - application layer.

 [AtChat]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Modem AT communication
 Help[] = Communication between Qtopia and the Modem, in the form of AT 
 commands and modem responses.
 Requires = CELL

 [Bluetooth]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Bluetooth
 Help[] = Anything to do with Bluetooth support.

 [Camera]
 enabled = 0
 Name[] = Camera
 Help[] = Camera application.

 [CleanupWizard]
 enabled = 0
 Name[] = Cleanup Wizard
 Help[] = Cleanup wizard activity.

 [DataLinking]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Data Linking (QDL)
 Help[] = Qtopia Data Linking (QDL) activities.

 [DataSharing]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Data Sharing (QDS)
 Help[] = Qtopia Data Sharing (QDS) activities.

 [DBUS]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = DBUS
 Help[] = DBUS activity.

 [DocAPI]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Document system
 Help[] = Interactions with the document server. See also DRM.

 [DRMAgent]
 Enabled = 1 
 Name[] = DRM
 Help[] = DRM agent interactions.
 Requires = DRM

 [Hardware]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Hardware
 Help[] = Detailed logging of hardware messages.

 [Help]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Helpbrowser
 Help[] = Context-sensitive help interaction.

 [I18n]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Internationalization
 Help[] = Anything to do with alternative behaviours in different languages.

 [ILFramework]
 Enabled = 1 
 Name[] = IL Framework
 Help[] = Qtopia Integration Layer Framework activity.

 [IMAP]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = IMAP
 Help[] = Verbose debugging of incoming email data from IMAP accounts.

 [Infrared]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Infrared
 Help[] = Infrared functionality.

 [IniLayer]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Ini Layer
 Help[] = Qtopia Value Space - Ini Layer.

 [Input]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Text input methods
 Help[] = Keypad and touchscreen plugins.

 [Media]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Multimedia
 Help[] = Media related functionality.

 [Messaging]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Messaging
 Help[] = Messaging activity.

 [Modem]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Modem Other
 Help[] = Modem activity other than I/O.
 Requires = CELL

 [ModemEmulator]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Modem Emulator
 Help[] = Modem emulator related functionality.
 Requires = CELL

 [Mux]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Modem Multiplexing
 Help[] = Detailed packet information for GSM 07.10 multiplexing.
 Requires = CELL

 [Network]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Networking
 Help[] = Network activity.

 [Obex]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = OBEX
 Help[] = OBEX functionality.

 [Package]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Package Management
 Help[] = Package management activity.

 [Performance]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Performance Analysis
 Help[] = Performance logging of Qtopia Server and Applications.

 [POP]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = POP
 Help[] = Verbose debugging of incoming email data from POP accounts.

 [PowerManagement]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Power Management
 Help[] = Power management activity.

 [QAudioInput]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Audio Input
 Help[] = ALSA Audio Input.

 [QAudioOutput]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Audio Output
 Help[] = ALSA Audio Output.

 [QSS]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Qtopia Sound Server
 Help[] = Qtopia Sound Server output activity.

 [Quicklauncher]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Quicklauncher
 Help[] = Quicklauncher spawning and application loading.

 [QtopiaServer]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Server
 Help[] = Qtopia Server tasks and startup.

 [Qtopiatest]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Qtopiatest
 Help[] = Qtopiatest plugin activity.

 [Resource]
 Enabled = 1
 Name[] = Resource Lookup
 Help[] = Resource lookup information.

 [Services]
 Enabled = 1
 Name

Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- correct me if I am wrong, but the irony of the situation is that
suspend/wakeup is handled by the kernel, and qtopia images use stock
kernel from OM. Thus whatever suspend/resume achievements you see - they
are solely due to OM developers.

qtopia relevant pros though: call/receive after resume, absent explicit
wake up on GSM activity, etc indeed are nice and it is really strange
that OM's images are not yet there since qtopia proves that kernel
part is good enough already (not to say that ASU/2008.2 are based on
qtopia)

qtopia has 1 very annoying to me issue though -- if I receive a phone
call, and click on answer button -- it takes 2-4 seconds for the phone
to actually react -- thus I often lost some phone calls which is
annoying. Well -- may be in upcoming 4.4 qtopia release it becomes
better (lpotter mentioned slightly speedier experience)

and what you experience is 'white screen of death' -- you might search
for it -- there is bug report somewhere

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Rorschach wrote:

 Hi fellows,
 I tested a few minutes ago with my Neo Freerunner the new qtopia image 
 (4.32-080808) which was released yesterday. And I can report that the suspend 
 problem is nearly completly fixed:
 * I can suspend
 * I can wakeup (pressing the startbutton)
 * After suspend I can make and recieve calls
 * It wakes up from suspend automatically when called and rings

 The only thing not working is: it wakes up from suspend when called and it 
 rings but the screen stays totally white. You can't do anything with the 
 phone but shuting it down (holding start button for a longer time) and 
 rebooting. So a huge progress has been made on qtopia. Thanks to trolltech 
 and the ppl involved on porting qtopia to the GTA02!

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Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
did you restart qpe? (just wanted to make sure)

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Thomas B. wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 12:21:55PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
  no -- the same was on qtopia -- but on OM it wasn't under
  ~/Settings/Trolltech right? so it wasn't yet enabled -- to enable it you
  need to copy it there afaik

  have you tried to copy it and see if logread gets populated with
  messages? :-)

 Ok, I've tried copying it there now. I don't know whether it makes a
 difference - it looks pretty much the same as before.  There are
 actually lots of messages, though, e.g. lots of AtChat messages
 documenting the communication with the GSM modem. So maybe logging is
 really enabled by default on OM2008.8.

 Regards,
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Re: debugging qpe -- please help me to confirm

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
thank you Thomas! so I guess no need to document anything in wiki ;-)

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Thomas B. wrote:

 On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 01:50:10PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
  did you restart qpe? (just wanted to make sure)

 I rebooted, so, yes.

 But anyway, with or without that file, I can't complain about a lack of
 debugging information at the moment, at least regarding GSM. The
 complete communication with the GSM modem is in the logs, which is often
 pretty informative.

 Regards,
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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
you better off using cpio or rsync imho for copying filesystems entirely
since they know more about devices/pipes/etc

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Olivier Berger wrote:

 One issue I've found is that cp -a didn't relyably copy from MTD/flash
 to SD 5 or 6 files.

 After diff -r on dirs I found out which and md5sumed them...

 That's rather frightening, I think :(

 Anyway, I copied them over again, and am now trying to figure out if I
 can boot OK with right kernel and if it goes well.

 Will report in case of success.
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Re: New Qtopia-Images fixes suspend problem nearly complete!

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I didn't track those -- is is trashed regardless if partition is mounted
read/only or read/write? I would assume that it should be safe in
read-only mount, thus just (re)mount your SD read-only and be happy
listening to the music ;-)

On Sun, 10 Aug 2008, Craig B. Allen wrote:

 So while it's a plus that basic phone services work after
 suspend/resume, I still cannot use my FR as a music player nor for
 GPS, since I want both music and map files on my SD card.

 But the phone services on Qtopia are an improvement over the alternatives.
still very sluggish though (or is it me too fast? :-)))

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Re: Moving my 2007.2 to SD to try 2008.8 with fallback solution

2008-08-10 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
 In any case, I suggest that you update
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Moving_current_system_from_flash_to_SD
 if you would like to test and document your findings with other
 tools.
done (though I haven't tested them for this particular purpose yet...)
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Re: A very sad story...

2008-08-08 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
guys -- you are very kind but that is sad that there is no official
OpenMoko parts store -- it is like having opensource OS where you can't
unload a driver and load a new one - what good opensource hardware gives
you then if you can't replace it? (please don't follow up
disgusting this statement ;-))

Dear Steve

could you please research an ability to come up with some little store
for parts -- or in the worst case ask someone to come up with a wiki
page listing  vendors selling parts (or compatible) which were
used in openmoko's phone.

Selling accessories (2.5 - 3.5 mm audio connector, USB host hub, finger
stylus, etc) would be a great plus as well -- nobody yet sure what
reasonably priced 2.5 - 3.5 works in the phone, thus since point of
'sell' (or information in the case of wiki page with links) would
be great!

Thanks in advance


On Fri, 08 Aug 2008, John Koenig wrote:

 That certainly sounds better than any of the other options I have been 
 researching.

 Is there anyone out there that has older Neo 1973 hardware (with a 
 functional LCD display) they would be willing to sell or get rid of?  
 Or  even  perhaps  someone with a dead freerunner?

 John

 Jeffrey Malone wrote:
  From what I can tell on the wiki, both the Neo 1973 and the Neo 
  Freerunner use the same LCD.  Finding someone willing to part with 
  their Neo 1973 -- or finding someone with a dead 1973 (but good LCD) 
  is probably not going to be a difficult task.

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/qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
if you decide to use alarm clock in the qtopia -- it would drain the
battery much more rapidly. Usually charge is sufficient for me to hold
for a day (24h) but with alarm it doesn't survive through the night -- I
wake up and phone is dead :-/

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Re: Debian on FreeRunner

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
well -- bringing openmoko's changes and novel packages into
emdebian port [0] sounds like a great task which many would
appreciate. It might be worth inquiring [1]  people on
suggestions and plausibility/interest of such a project. Then indeed it
might become a point that we could simply run the best OS on our phones
as well supporting all the phone features  ;-)

if someone jumps to package things for emdebian, and those packages are
forth to appear in the mainline Debian (some parts of matchbox are in
the mainline I believe), I could spare some time for sponsoring
their uploads into Debian, so your efforts don't vanish due to
decentralization.

[0] http://www.emdebian.org/
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-embedded/

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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
imho shipping such an adapter within FR box would be a nice gesture from
OM -- they chosen an adapter which seems to be not that popular and
people struggle to choose 'the right one'. I bet if OM bought in
bulk it would cost them no more than 1$ a piece.

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, vale wrote:
 let us now if it works :)
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Re: /qtopia/ alarm clock drains battery

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
looking at atd.c of shipped with debian's at:

  /* Main loop.  Let's sleep for a specified interval,
 * or until the next job is scheduled, or until we get signaled.
 * After any of these events, we rescan the queue.
 * A signal handler setting term_signal will make sure there's
 * a clean exit.
 */

sigaction(SIGHUP, NULL, act);
act.sa_handler = sdummy;
sigaction(SIGHUP, act, NULL);

so on sighup it wakes up, and run_loop is executed so it rereads its content
again. Thus 'pkill -HUP atd' should be sufficient imho (didn't try though)

On Thu, 07 Aug 2008, Sven Klomp wrote:
 However, I don't know how I can tell atd to process new scripts 
 in /var/spool/at. Until now, I have to wait up to ten minutes before atd sets 
 the wake up time when a new script was written in /var/spool/at.
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Re: 2.5mm neo to 3.5mm stereo adaptor

2008-08-07 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
GREAT CATCH!

are you sure that it works fine and is not too loose? could you please
update the thread whenever you try it?


 
 In fact, if any of us bought more than three it would cost no more
 than $0.88 US (shipped):
 
 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3541
 
 Although, there seems to be a flat $1.70 air mail fee for bulk orders.
 
 (I've already told Marcel about this site on IRC and he noted that
 they only accept PayPal)
 
 Of course, at $1.30 shipped worldwide, I've already ordered one.
 
 -- 
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Re: Edit wiki

2008-08-05 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
hm... pretty sure that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is my account

On Tue, 05 Aug 2008, BrendaWang wrote:

 Yes , I can add you .
 But you should give me your google account first.
 are you sure yarikoptic is the google account?
 I guess they use e-mail addrress as google account's id.

 Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
 ha -- apparently Brenda could add my google account (yarikoptic) to see
 the statistics 'online'

 https://www.google.com/support/googleanalytics/bin/answer.py?answer=55500hl=en_USutm_id=ad

 or otherwise I will just wait for an updated report (I guess smth like
 last 2 weeks would be the best)

 On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:


 due to restructuring of wiki which is ongoing (isn't it?) I guess it
 would be great if there was a way to get access to up-to-date monthly
 reports... and not in pdf although with pdftotext I can get a list of
 titles with



 grep -e '^\(URL\|.\/\).*wiki' attachment-0001.txt | sed -e 's/URL //g' -e 
 's/ \([^/]\)/\1/g' | tr ' ' '\n' | awk -F \/ '/\/wiki\//{print $3;}' | grep 
 -v Image



 so may be later on somehow to automate their prefetching in tiddlywiki
 wiki...



 On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:



 Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
 statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
 prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
 wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge.



 Sure:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages
 and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
 
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
  




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Re: /qtopia/ failed build

2008-08-04 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
any ideas on why could I get

install -c 
/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/pics/drm/Drm_lock_invalid.png
 /home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/image/pics/drm/Drm_lock_invalid.png
install -c 
/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/pics/drm/Drm_lock_invalid_16.png
 /home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/image/pics/drm/Drm_lock_invalid_16.png
/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/bin/content_installer 
/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/image/qtopia_db.sqlite /opt/Qtopia 
/apps/MainApplications  
/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/qtopia-opensource-src-4.3.2-snapshot-20080801/apps/MainApplications/.directory
Semaphore creation failed: Error 38, Function not implemented
make[5]: *** [install_docapi_mainapps_category] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory 
`/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/src/libraries/qtopia'
make[4]: *** [install] Error 2
make[4]: Leaving directory 
`/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/src/libraries/qtopia'
make[3]: *** [sub-libraries-qtopia_qtopia_install] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/src'
make[2]: *** [install] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build/src'
make[1]: *** [qtopia_install] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/yoh/nobackup_openmoko/qtopia/build'
make: *** [install] Error 2


I am building the beast on amd64 box within chroot (debian sid).
any hints are welcome!

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Re: SDcard holder - convenience rework

2008-08-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I guess tomorrow it will be patented and  in a few months will be
present in GTA03 ;-)

On Sun, 03 Aug 2008, steve wrote:

 That's pretty damn clever.  



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Re: Edit wiki

2008-08-03 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
not sure what you meant...
I know that wiki.openmoko is media-wiki powered. But it is server-side
storage/wiki-renderer solution, that is why not appropriate for off-line
use. to overcome such problem I decided to look into tiddlywiki (which
is a wiki self-contained in a single file) which with appropriate
adaptor could prefetch pages from mediawiki. and the end-result is shown
on the url I've mentioned -- if you simply save that page to a file --
you get all prefetched pages with you any time (ie offline as well)

On Mon, 04 Aug 2008, BrendaWang wrote:

 So, it can't work on mediawiki system?
 Openmoko wiki used media wiki.


 Yaroslav Halchenko ??:
 it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side
 (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides
 images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the
 beauty of it -- even search works ;-)
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Re: Edit wiki

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side
(ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides
images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the
beauty of it -- even search works ;-)

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Brenda Wang wrote:

 You have a pretty nice menu( I mean , menu on the right side). How to do  
 that?
 Does you put jave on server site?

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Re: Edit wiki

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi Community and Martin (thanks to whom we have this tiddlywiki-based
wiki due to his plugins to import mediawiki content)

   Tovarich
;)

, can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main menu
...  it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help /
documentation / system manual.
ok -- for now I just added a section to Download. Indeed
some time later link within main menu might be in place.

Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge. 

Also, lets check with Martin (CCing him):

would it be possible to create optional prefetching of images into some
local directory and relinking appropriately in the tiddles (or better
dynamic image source path generation -- if present locally - them from
file, if not -- url)? 

This way we could indeed package 
openmoko-wiki
openmoko-wiki-imgs (which would be somewhat large)
so that you could install it from the packages.

Also, due to some lack of time I am using pure qtopia image for now,
thus can't check how well this wiki looks under minimo or any other
browser present for FR. Could anyone have a look? may be layout of it
should be adjusted for more pleasant experience on our little screens
;-)

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:

 Le vendredi 01 août 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko a écrit :
  it is all features of tiddlywiki ;-) everything is done on client side
  (ie in the browser) thanks to Java Script ;-) all material (besides
  images) is contained within that very single .html file -- that is the
  beauty of it -- even search works ;-)

   Tovarich, can you package this in a .ipk along with a shortcut in the main 
 menu that opens it in a brower ? Then it will be easy to lobby OM to install 
 it by default: this is the closest thing we have to a help / documentation / 
 system manual.

 Minh
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/qtopia/ hard to Answer

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Although the rest seems to be working quite fine, and even battery life
is tolerable, with pure qtopia I am experiencing 1 unpleasant effect
(which while writing this email unrolled a bit ;-)

I am running:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/version 
200807100425
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /proc/version 
Linux version 2.6.24 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 4.1.2) #71 PREEMPT Wed 
Jul 16 13:45:35 CDT 2008

not sure where to look for qtopia image specific version, but I believe
I burnt images from the latest tarball
qtopia-4.3.2-gta02-flash-07221045.tgz

NB you might recall my earlier reports about kernel oopses

Whenever I receive a call, screen changes to nice choices to accept or
not the call, but there is 2-4 seconds delay after I press Answer and
anything actually happens. I think that delay was somewhat smaller with
original ringtone (I put some melody in wav file and made it a phone
ring). Also since I am not sure if phone 'sensed' my press, if I press
second time, it would cause phone to accept that press whenever Drop
the call button appears on the same place where it was Answer and
that immediately drops the call. It might be wise to filter out events
from the queue before reacting on redrawn buttons and even add
500-1000ms delay prior making that End call button active.

Few aspects: when I ssh into it via wifi, I see events and avahi-daemon
quite busy (25% and 10% cpu) at that moment. I wonder if that is the
cause for my high-latency reaction to the press of Answer (events
niced to -5). I decided to reboot to see if CPU high usage persist

On my first reboot I got white screen and phone was stalled... had to
keep power button pressed for quite long before it shut down

on the next boot it got into QT, showed No network and didn't react to
any buttons on the screen (Although they blinked while being pressed,
nothing happened. Unlock item in the bottom left didn't react to
presses). Then it suspended and when I resumed it back -- again
white screen. in a few secs suspended again and then didn't react to any
buttons (ie pow, aux) -- I had to take battery out to power it to shut
it down to power it up again.

prior to 1st reboot battery meter on the screen showed around 50% so I
hoped that would be sufficient, but on 3rd attempt to boot it turned off
somewhere in the beginning -- I had to attach it to usb to make it boot
again.

it booted - and again I got 'no network' message and dead buttons. I
waited a bit again, and this time it got connected to T-Mobile and
everything started to work -- Unlock disappeared, button react now.

Also events/avahi are salient (1% CPU). So the question would be -- how
to debug what those beasts were doing? strace failed to be ran on
events. But 'slow reaction' effect remained any ways -- I need to click
'answer' very carefully and wait for 3-4 seconds to get actual action.

after suspend/resume (single one) events/avahi remained well-behaving


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/qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing
whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according
to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is
to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least
personal settings and  aphone book, but that would require manual
remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way??

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Re: Edit wiki

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
due to restructuring of wiki which is ongoing (isn't it?) I guess it
would be great if there was a way to get access to up-to-date monthly
reports... and not in pdf although with pdftotext I can get a list of
titles with

grep -e '^\(URL\|.\/\).*wiki' attachment-0001.txt | sed -e 's/URL //g' -e 's/ 
\([^/]\)/\1/g' | tr ' ' '\n' | awk -F \/ '/\/wiki\//{print $3;}' | grep -v Image

so may be later on somehow to automate their prefetching in tiddlywiki
wiki...

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Minh Ha Duong wrote:

  Prior to making it into .ipkg, I wonder if there is a way to obtain
  statistics on what articles on wiki are the most popular, so I could
  prepopulate that file with such popular articles. We can't fetch full
  wiki.openmoko.org since it would render .html huge.

 Sure:
 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Special:Popularpages
 and June statistics (posted by Brenda on the community list)
 http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/attachments/20080701/18ff1754/attachment-0001.pdf
  
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Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Thank you Ole for the instructions!

indeed I could just extract opt/Qtopia from a fresh .jffs image whenever
new one becomes available, BUT that would not give me easy way to
upgrade the rest of the packages (non-qpe) to the same state as in that
image... I am not sure how much that is important though...
(events/avahi/mediaserver or whatever else qpe relies on).

I wonder if OpenMokoMakefile's qtopia target would substitute your
directions for how to build from sources... lets see...


On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Ole Kliemann wrote:

 On Fri, Aug 01, 2008 at 03:32:52PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
  Is there an easy way to upgrade qtopia installation without reflashing
  whole rootfs? since /opt/Qtopia is not a part of any package according
  to opkg search, thus is not 'opkg upgrade'able. 1 possibility I see is
  to keep /home/root on a flash and manually mount it to preserve at least
  personal settings and  aphone book, but that would require manual
  remounting after flashing. May be there is a better way??

 You can upgrade Qtopia like this:
 shutdown Qtopia (/etc/init.d/qpe stop)
 remove /opt/Qtopia
 copy new Qtopia to /opt/Qtopia (via scp)

 That's pretty straight forward. Tricky part is where to get new Qtopia
 as tarball or whatever to copy it. One possibility is to compile
 yourself. It's not difficult and you are always up-to-date. The
 precompiled images are not so often updated.

 Get the Qtopia toolchain for FR [1]. Unpacking it to / will install into
 /opt/toolchains/arm920t-eabi/
 Get the latest snapshot [2].
 Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it.

 Ole

 [1] http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/singlefile.php?lid=38
 [2] ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qtopia/snapshots/



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Re: /qtopia/ how to upgrade without reflashing?

2008-08-01 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

On Fri, 01 Aug 2008, Ole Kliemann wrote:
 Create a build dir and run configure -device ficgta01 then build it.
just want to confirm -- for freerunner should it remain ficgta01 (I
don't see any other suitable under devices but usually there are 2
separate images for gta01 and 2 on qtopia's download page)

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Re: Project Proposal: Dead man's switch

2008-07-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Ha -- actually quite a neat idea imho.

I would extend the list of possible alarms/triggers though from a simple 
touchscreen touch to:

1. another SIM is inserted
2. ran without SIM
3. some monitored application gets killed
etc

and actions (although some of them could be probably coded as generic 
'shell commands'):
* wait until online and send email with current location (if GPS is on), 
registered phoned number, cell location, etc
* or just send an SMS with above msgs if 'in service' ;-)

just in case the phone is lost and then 'tried' with some other SIM ;-)

and I guess such actions could be groupped into logical entities like
Lost/Stolen phone,
Death-threatening situation
Trick-or-Treat
Save-me-from-undesired-conversation
with selection of monitored triggers and actions to perform.

but then slowly it might boil to some more generic 'framework' like it 
was discussed on the mailing list few times I believe (automagic switch 
of profiles etc)

Just my few cents ;-)

Diego Fernández Durán wrote:

 
  Comments on this thing will be appreciated. (and sorry for my bad
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Re: Edit wiki

2008-07-31 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
I just want to follow up with another piece of PR for effort I joined 
(since noone expressed opinion on it in the original thread).

Just have a look at wiki in a single file
http://om-tiddlywiki.projects.openmoko.org/openmokowiki.html


BrendaWang wrote:

 More ideas , feeback and any kinds of editing will make wiki better and
 better.
 Be feel free to give me more feedback about this.
 
 
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Mobile version of wiki.openmoko.org

2008-07-30 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi All Openmoko-ers,

I've suggested at some moment having a copy of wiki.openmoko.org so that
we could drag it along. So -- here it is ;-)

Due to the intriguing idea of tiddlywiki, few additional plugins, and
rapid replies and development from Martin Budden who crafted a mediawiki
import plugin for tiddlywiki and made a seed for wiki.openmoko,
now we can enjoy
http://om-tiddlywiki.projects.openmoko.org/openmokowiki.html


which provides you with a wiki in a single html file (thus you can
simply save it to your harddrive or directly into openmoko phone,
and you could also obtain it from alioth's file release system...
current version is at
http://projects.openmoko.org/frs/download.php/275/openmokowiki.html)

Martin crafted prefeeding seeds for wiki, I also preliminary populated
it already with some common articles (the least I could do ;-)).  If you
see a link which is in italic, if you click it, it would automatically
fetch the original article, thus if you save the file (click on save
changes), it will stay there until forever (or whenever you remove
it or until it got modified on sync).

Images are displayed directly from the original wiki.openmoko.org
since it would otherwise blow up the openmokowiki.html too much if they
got embedded.

Also there is a way to fetch lots of articles at once but I wouldn't
even describe on how to do it (in 2 or 3 clicks) since I think the best
scheme to use it is simply populate it with most popular and useful
articles (not just everything).

So what do you say? is it useful or is it bogus? Current version is at
alpha state and there are more of issues to be fixed, but that is just a
testing version to get filling ;)

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Trolltech/Nokia and QTopia on FR (and qtopia desktop) questions (to Lorn I guess ;-))

2008-07-28 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Questions are pretty much to Lorn,

I thought to give qtopia another try on my FR but immediately thought
that it would be great to have qtopia desktop to sync things up, but
iirc it was removed from the website download due to clarification of
licensing. Do you have an idea if it would be made available again to
public any time soon?

another question (sorry if I missed answer in some of the threads) -- I
wonder if you are the only person dedicated by Trolltech (or Nokia) to
work on qtopia for openmoko? It is just interesting ;-) also it would be
great if you could summarize in few words (if you feel like it) what are
the future directions you and your team are going to accomplish for
qtopia on FR? would be there a 'long term support' of any kind for
qtopia on FR?

Thank you in advance for the clarifications!

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Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia

2008-07-27 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
For 2007.2 users (and probably could be brought within ASU desktop
easily) there is matchbox-stroke which seems to be quite a nice start
and is configurable somewhat easily (if ran within terminal on FR it
spits out the codes which are descriptors of the written letters so it
could be added to shipped .xml file)

the only problem on my 1st try to use it is that it doesn't have a
mechanism to disappear from the screen (or at least I've not found it)
-- it is always there. But I guess it should be doable (simply by
duplicating some functionality from matchbox-keyboard for instance...)

so it seems like a good candidate ;) someone indeed should just figur
figure out a nice way to compose multiple input methods and implement
convenient switching between them

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, arne anka wrote:

 is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work  
 going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)?

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Re: asu and handwriting recognition of qtopia

2008-07-25 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
there is also
http://risujin.org/cellwriter/
and some people built it for FR
http://www.ginguppin.de/node/16
but I haven't used/looked at it myself so not sure[*]

[*]http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

On Sat, 26 Jul 2008, Lorn Potter wrote:

 arne anka wrote:
  is the handwriting recognition of qtopia available in asu or is there work  
  going on to port it (or even use another handwriting recognition)?

 For X, there is rosetta, but I am not sure any work has been done on it 
 for a while
 http://handhelds.org/project/rosetta/
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Re: Now that you have your phone, what are you doing?

2008-07-25 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
sorry for a silly follow-up but 

reading a lot about it,
LOL ;-)

it summarizes well activities of the hundreds I bet...

may be it is because

1. there is a universe of unconnected contributions (ie I packaged smth
which is not in the official repository, or I've fixed this via )
ie. there is no transparent and generic plan/HOWTO on how contributions
are submitted/adopted to be used by the masses with a simple 'opkg
upgrade'. There is no distributed allocation of duties/privileges in
respect to packages (like in Debian and without any flavor of which
community project is not a community project any longer -- even
khe Ubuntu has their MOTUs ;) ), thus any update in official
repository takes too long (look at tangogps for which upstream has
up-to-date version but OM's repository lacks it). or where is minimo
which was already packaged and there is wiki instructions on the web?

I already have my own set of scripts to bring 2007.2 to a usable
state for me... just not sure where to place it to make public (not just
a blog/wiki page about it since that is of limited affect)

2. is it in wiki? yes! in the page buga_biga_boom which you could reach
after going through buga1, buga2 and buga3 or searching for buga1 buga2
buga_whatever_irrelevant). sure -- wiki is improving since people
mentioned amount of redundancy in its content, but wiki shouldn't be a
collection of addendums of the ad-hoc scripts to complement official
distribution, it should serve as a nice documentation.

sorry for a bit of sarcasm ;-) but it seems OM is missing some basic
community organization at the moment (I guess they are too busy with
reinventing the wheel via a child of their own - illume and an
autohiding keyboard so you don't type whenever YOU want, and that
is their mistake imho)

:-P

P.S. it is not to start a heavy finger-pointing discussion, it is just
me after having some beer ;-)

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008, andres wrote:

On Fri, 2008-07-25 at 17:30 +0300, Breakable wrote:

  Hi there,
  Just wondering those of you who have the device already, what are
  you doing with your new device?

reading a lot about it,
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Re: Fast questions (email, GPRS, WiFi...)

2008-07-24 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko

 Is it possible to leave the USB connection up, so you can work on the
 Freerunner via ssh, and at the same time bring up the WIFI?
sure -- just have wifi and usb0 on different networks (e.g.
192.168.0.0/24 for usb and 192.168.1.0/24 for wifi). the only glitch
might come if you are going to access internet and by default usb0 sets
up itself as a gateway interface -- so just remove it from the route or
directly from usb0 definition in interfaces
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Re: Why is Qtopia much faster?

2008-07-23 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
just my few cents... please be gentle if I reveal some ignorance in any
part of my expressions

such a topic could go forever and include thousands of replies because
it debates some basic decisions which had been made and which have
sufficient amount of pros and cons for the each side of the debate.
Such segmentation of the 'human mass' could be partially attributed to
the heterogeneity of opensource community (among which as you see
there might co-exist different senses of freedom --- no pun intended,
thus don't continue on this topic). It would better be characterized
with a single neutral-tone summary on wiki listing the aspects of
different distributions, their current abilities, range of available
applications, and future possible improvements.

in my summary: QT with qtopia offers to a generic public a convenient,
somewhat well-established, somewhat featurefull, consistently looking,
opensource way to develop the applications for the phones. I really
appreciated and liked their qtopia distro for FR when I tried it
recently. BUT to get such responsive UI sacrifices had been made, thus
there is no X (I do not even want to touch GPL vs BSD/... issue here).
Such a choice has strong advantages (qtopia on FR looks and seems to be
working quite well), but it also imposes limitations on what part of
existing applications base can be easily ported or supported to co-exist
with native QT apps on such a box... actually it just limits apps to QT
apps. and that is imho the end of discussion -- at this moment it is
just the situation which has to be accepted.

But once again, many people like/develop apps which are not based on QT
due to various reasons (again... lets omit license issues), thus
their choice would be a generic X-based distribution such as 2007.2 and
ASU. Now they would lack (hopefully for not too long) consistent and
stable appearance/performance/API, but that is once again the choice
which had been made.

I really appreciate work of Trolltech ... Nokia toward making pure
qtopia available for Freerunner. Probably the suite of QT apps available
for qtopia would be sufficient for a large portion of FR owners, but
would not satisfy all of them. But that again simply comes to the
heterogeneity of the FR community. I can only hope that qtopia will be
kept constantly updated and enhanced for a long period of time, and that
some new gadget from Nokia will not shift the focus away from FR ;-)

On Thu, 24 Jul 2008, Cédric Berger wrote:

 On Thu, Jul 24, 2008 at 00:42, Torfinn Ingolfsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  People, this discussion has turned _very_ off topic now.
  Could you all please take further discussion on this subject in a
  place where it is more on topic?

  Thank you.


 Well not so off topic since we are at a point where choices are made
 about what direction development on openmoko will take... (even if
 maybe there will be several directions in parallel)
 (I mean not only for the OS and base applis, but also for applications
 one would want to develop)
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Re: replaced ringtone but it plays it really funny way

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
ah... probably now dialer is 'configured' to assume that ringtone is
just a second or so... thus every other second (if call is not dropped
yet) it sends a new notification to pulse to play the ring tone. ho ho

so there is no native way seems to me to 

* provide natively long ringtone (at least 5 sec)

* interrupt 'active' ringtone if it is already playing, which limits us
  just to short ringtones, initiated every X seconds from the dialer.

I haven't tried ASU to that amount of detail but is it doing the same??

looking at openmoko-dialer2/./src/phone-kit/moko-notify.c all logic
seems to be there right actually (I am not sure if that is ASU's or
2008.2's dialer now... can't think straight now), so it might simply be
a bug? btw - music doesn't stop for me even if I interrupt the call,
thus I guess pulse doesn't get any 'interrupt' notifications



On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

 the mystery of effect 'multiple instances' is somewhat revealed.. pulse
 audio indeed creates multiple inputs for some reason... I dunno why.
 I converted that file to stereo using sox (thought it would resolve the
 issue). converting to 44800 sampling rate was bogus since then pulse
 reported that file is too large... so with regular 22050 sampling pulse
 says:

 I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'trivial'
 I: resampler.c: Using s16le as working format.
 I: sink-input.c: Created input 1 sample:ringtone on output with sample spec 
 s16le 2ch 22050Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
 I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'trivial'
 I: resampler.c: Using s16le as working format.
 I: sink-input.c: Created input 2 sample:ringtone on output with sample spec 
 s16le 2ch 22050Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
 I: resampler.c: Using resampler 'trivial'
 I: resampler.c: Using s16le as working format.
 I: sink-input.c: Created input 3 sample:ringtone on output with sample spec 
 s16le 2ch 22050Hz and channel map front-left,front-right
 I: sink-input.c: Freeing output 1 sample:ringtone
 I: sink-input.c: Freeing output 2 sample:ringtone
 I: sink-input.c: Freeing output 3 sample:ringtone


 does any one have a clue why?

 On Mon, 21 Jul 2008, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

  So I did a blind copy of my ringtone (you can sample it from 
  http://www.onerussian.com/tmp/v_mir_jiv.wav) by copying over
  /usr/share/openmoko/sounds/ringtone_classy.wav
  which is
  RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 8 bit, mono 22050 Hz

  whenever original was
  RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 
  Hz

  after reboot it plays but incorrectly, it stutter, and even sounds like
  multiple instances playing simultaneously.  So, I wonder what is the
  reason -- is that a feature or a bug

  I am running 2008.2 from yesteday
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Re: replaced ringtone but it plays it really funny way

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
nah... that is though the first thing I thought -- pulse is there to
do resampling if needed. I think that my suspicion (said in my prev
email to the thread) is the root -- dialer's logic is a big weaked and
it doesn't really get idea either the sound has finished playing within
its timeout of 500ms (or 1500ms), thus it manages to start 3 requests to
play the same sound

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Jay Vaughan wrote:




  after reboot it plays but incorrectly, it stutter, and even sounds  
  like
  multiple instances playing simultaneously.  So, I wonder what is the
  reason -- is that a feature or a bug
  RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo  
  44100 Hz

 ^^^ sample rate is wrong.  Pulseaudio is set up for 48khz.

 ;
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Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
could anyone recommend a nice solder for such kind of work? (haven't
bothered to buy one in the states... in ukraine at the university was
using whatever was given ;-))

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Tim Schmidt wrote:

 On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 8:35 PM, steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   1. Give people a free repair kit?
   2. work with distributors to do repair.
   3. Host repair PARTIES! Woo hoo. Bring your own soldering iron. BYOSI

 Personally, a kit would work for me.  I have fine pitch solder and a
 nice iron, but not enough SMT parts to have that cap on hand (or
 easily aquired).  I suspect others might not be so lucky though.

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Re: GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference issue

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
doh me -- I meant to ask about soldering iron primarily. So which gun
would you recommend (so it feels comfortable in hand, is not too long,
doesn't heat the handle more than the tip ;-) etc)

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Sander van Grieken wrote:

  could anyone recommend a nice solder for such kind of work? (haven't
  bothered to buy one in the states... in ukraine at the university was
  using whatever was given ;-))

 You will need 'flux core solder' (normal 'resin' electronics solder), with a 
 low wattage
 soldering iron, like 15W. It also helps to apply the solder to all contacts 
 first,
 before putting the capacitor in place.

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Re: have anyone changed his ringtone ?

2008-07-22 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
for sure... I didn't experiment with sizes much but my attempt of 3M
in size led pulse to explicitely state that it is too big: just run that
pulse from cmdline, without -D and log-level=2 should be sufficient. You
would need to restart X so dialer reconnects to pulseaudio

also there seems to be a flaw in the logic (or communication with
pulseaudiot) of the dialer, so if you place lengthy ringtone, you will
get multiple copies of it playing with a delay from each other ;-)

On Tue, 22 Jul 2008, Zitune wrote:

in fact it's a size problem ...
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Influence of WiFi on GPS readings (200m error)

2008-07-21 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
Hi All,

Finally I got to play with FR. Flushed todays (0721) dev image and kernel.
Running TangoGPS. While WiFi is on (WEP encrypted. wpa_supplicant
powered ;)) I am having location error (never hit the right spot) around
200-400m with reported speed from 0.5 to 20 km/h (while I am siting
steadily in 1 place).

When I turn WiFi Off (just on my FR, without touching access point or a
laptop from which I am writing) -- location moves to the right spot with
a bias of 10m or so.

Therefore, the question: is that expected? ie that we can't rely on GPS
readings while WiFi is on?  Or from the other side: what is
'documented' precision in GPS readings while WiFi is enabled (and not
actually very actively used, if used at all  since I guess TangoGPS
already had those tiles from OSM downloaded).

Or may be it is just my FR which behaves that way? Did anyone observe
any similar behavior?

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replaced ringtone but it plays it really funny way

2008-07-21 Thread Yaroslav Halchenko
So I did a blind copy of my ringtone (you can sample it from 
http://www.onerussian.com/tmp/v_mir_jiv.wav) by copying over
/usr/share/openmoko/sounds/ringtone_classy.wav
which is
RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 8 bit, mono 22050 Hz

whenever original was
RIFF (little-endian) data, WAVE audio, Microsoft PCM, 16 bit, stereo 44100 Hz

after reboot it plays but incorrectly, it stutter, and even sounds like
multiple instances playing simultaneously.  So, I wonder what is the
reason -- is that a feature or a bug

I am running 2008.2 from yesteday
-- 
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Research Assistant, Psychology Department, Rutgers-Newark
Student  Ph.D. @ CS Dept. NJIT
Office: (973) 353-5440x263 | FWD: 82823 | Fax: (973) 353-1171
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