[SHR] 4-16 shr-testing is pretty good!
I don't usually see an announcement on the community list when a new SHR-testing is available, so here's my own. The SHR team deserves some kudos for a great job. Just reflashed my OM with the new shr-testing (4-16 version) 1 - GUI is much more responsive! 2 - Settings are restructured, better I think. See #1. A lot of work has gone into the settings changes it seems. I like the profile editor. 3 - new battery power indicator is cool. 4 - wifi works again for me with mofi (at home, with WPA). Its a worthy upgrade. SHR-testing is very usable now, just a few things would really push it over the edge for me: - mofi can't connect me to any open wifi networks. - no volume control for earpiece volume. - no datetime for SMS messages. From what I understand echo cancellation is in this version of SHR, so increasing earpiece volume should be echo free (using config files), I haven't tried that yet though. Ben B. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR - latest unstable] endless ringing
there are cases where someone calls me, I try to pick-up the call but the button 'answer' doesn't react! As a result the phone keeps ringing for ever! Even if I re-start the xserver the phone keeps ringing! Any idea why that happen? I see this too. Very annoying! I was hoping it would be fixed in a newer version, I am still on the december SHR release. I filed a bug for this: http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/312 Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] first total usable image
Steffen Winkler wrote: Three days ago, I installed the actual SHR onto my freerunner (testing or unstable...I think it was the unstable image, but not sure) and today, I can only say one thing: It's the best image I've ever seen! What about wifi and/or usb networking? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Miscellanious minor issues
6) How do I have a virtual Illume keyboard popup for the terminal, midori, pidgin? Click your stylus (or finger) at the very top of the screen. You should get a panel with three large buttons on it. On the buttons are some boxes, a house, and a big X. Above these buttons on the left is a wrench icon, and on the right is a 'qwerty' label. Click on the 'qwerty' label and you'll get a keyboard. hope this helps, Ben B ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Someone stole my Neo Freerunner... :(
If you don't want to risk being sued for a booby trapped phone, how about at least a way to render the it useless to thieves? For instance, you could make it unbootable from a zero power situation, and then combine that with a rapid power discharge. If the thief leaves it uncharged for even a day, its bricked! Jeff Sadowski wrote: Oooh :-) Idea: Make it shock the user if its not the right user. I smell smoke I think it is coming from over there. Hey look there is my phone. next to a flaming POS. On Mon, Jan 26, 2009 at 4:59 PM, Lothar Behrens lothar.behr...@lollisoft.de wrote: Hi, sorry for you all that lost your phone, stolen or lost anyhow by being careless. I also had lost a phone, but not my FR :-) I read the thread, and think about my contract. I have no gprs as of my old phone didn't let me opening web or wap pages. I have some questions and ideas that are in my brain :-) Is there any way to use analog modem connections ? I don't know how much CPU power is needed but when possible a phone could send more data to a dedicated number we could provide for that. If a real modem connection couldn't be used, what about creating a tone modulation for the data to be send as a 'spoken' message to be send back to a number as a voice recorder. The voice recorder then (a Linux PC :-) could decode the data and store the data. All the data could be collected on a web service to probably get the bad guys behind to give that information to the police. The web service also could provide information about stolen devices, thus when a phone gets any wlan connection, it could check for stolen state. This is not that spoof able I think, because the web sevice may be as usual password protected. But the server could provide sms, mms or phone gateways for fallback options. More gateways could be provided by us. The new gateway information could be uploaded by interacting with the user (software updates :-) If a phone didn't have gprs, sms, mms, or wlan, sending prepared 'data voices' would be an option. It didn't need to send much at first to get an answer about the stolen state in that way. I think the recorded data could be decoded in both directions, you don't need much cpu power, because it will be unidirectional, or let the 'protocol' enough time between packed sent and anser packets for decoding. Doing an active voice call may save us the cost of callbacks or sending back sms. With a proper longtime protocol with long pauses or a better solution a lot could be done. Usually you could activate this when the sim card get's changed without any notice to the user. He should still use the phone a while to collect information. We then could start a preinstalled application to authenticate the sim card change. If not options are many. The PIN entry of the normal card could be replaced by the PIN you provide. The user then wouldn't realize it, but claims to enter the correct, we simply accept, but start the timer for the above actions. Or we leave the user in claim that the documentation of it's sim card provider doesn't seem to be correct and he/she must issue a call with the service provider. At that point, the service provider couldn't help for that special phone. The new 'user' HAS to contact the manufacturer and so on you probably get your phone back, because the manufacturer should request for sending back the phone. Getting the state of stolen, the phone could anyway send a message to a police station near the user with spd-say, after the 'anti-theft' server has located the next police station's telephone number with any of the above options sent back to the phone. (Maybe with manual data entry of the phone numbers by us users with POI collection, hehe tangoGPS :-) That way the phone could help actively. Not only 'data voices' could be sent. Also the collected wlan, phone towers, GPS, voice, phone numbers and what else could help to locate the guys behind, as the phones will walk up to the key guys before it would reselled. (Where they all are located would be very nice POI data) With that data, we could help the police. A note about the attack to people currently having your phone: They may not know, that they have a stolen phone, thus you get to be a 'criminal' and beware, you may also get reatacked by the person :-) Giving the police the collected data, would propably help much more. What about all my stupid brain stuff ? Discuss about the possibilities - even stupid ideas as the old 'acustic coupler'. You don't really need all the modern GPRS stuff :-) If that is possible also the cost of operation is not very high I think - even you change your card (you know to start a separate unlocker) Lothar -- | Rapid Prototyping | XSLT Codegeneration | http://www.lollisoft.de Lothar Behrens Heinrich-Scheufelen-Platz 2 73252 Lenningen ___ Openmoko community mailing list
Re: Alternative stylus - Group Buy
Steven ** wrote: Anyone interested in a different group buy? I want one of these: http://www.jetmall.net/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPRODProdID=303 I think it would go with my FreeRunner very well. It even has a little strap that I could hook though the hole on the FreeRunner! Put me on the list! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Reason for GPS problems found!
You do NOT get tech support like this anywhere else. Those of you pounding your virtual fists on the table and demanding a fix *right now* are out of line. The OpenMoko team is obviously working on it; give them a little time. Amen! People are jumping to the conclusion that they will have to return their phones, etc, when the problem isn't even fully understood yet. It sounds like it can be at least worked around in software, and perhaps fully addressed without ever having to open the case. The fact that user-applied hardware fixes are even being considered is impressive to me. What other manufacturer would contemplate allowing such tinkering? Another point to be made is just like I can run a brand new cutting edge linux distro on 1990's hardware (some hardware anyway), we can expect current openmoko phones to be supported into the future, even after newer hardware is released. That's part of the beauty of open source. You won't get that kind of support with conventional smartphones. I have older smartphones with software bugs that will never be addressed, because there's simply no money in it for the manufacturer. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Convert Freerunner CAD Files - IGES or STEP?
OK, I finally found a batch processing way to convert the files to STEP and IGES. When zipped, the archives still are kinda large (step.zip ~35MB, step.tar.gz ~30MB, iges.zip ~100mb, iges.tar.gz ~85MB)... So the question arises: where shall I put them? How would I get them onto downloads.openmoko.org? (Sorry folks, but I can't host them myself...) Claus Thanks for doing that conversion! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using gmane with openmoko mailing lists + thunderbird
The first time that you post a message to a group, gmane sends you an email to confirm that your From: address is valid. You have to reply to that before your original message will be posted. If you don't see this message, check your junk-mail folder. You may also have to wait a couple of hours for posts to show up. I don't know if that delay is on the gmane side or if it's the Openmoko mailserver. (posted through gmane) Ok thanks for the info. Hopefully this will come up on the list - sorry for the test spam everyone, just don't know how else to get this working. Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Convert Freerunner CAD Files - IGES or STEP?
I have access to Pro/E and am willing to convert the Wildfire 3 files into something else. What do you prefer? IGES (Wireframe or Solid?), or STEP (Wireframe or Solid?)? All of the above? If its just a matter of selecting an export format. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community