Re: USB networking Win7

2014-01-17 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Matthias

chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

PuTTY is quite a decent (free as in beer) ssh client for windows

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transfer system in NAND to uSDcard

2014-01-17 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi

I've a system in the NAND memory of my freerunner that I would like to transfer 
as is to uSDcard and run it from there.

I couldn't find any info on the wiki for making a tar.gz archive of the system. 
Does such exist anywhere? If not, would someone give a few pointers of how to 
do this please

Thanks

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Re: [QtMoko] new svg keyboard

2013-12-29 Thread dmatthews.org
hi Joif

 Hello everybody
 I took advantage of the holidays and I made a new SVG keyboard, cute,

Thanks! IMO this is exactly the one main thing qtmoko has been missing. I'd 
suggest this should be included as standard, at least as an option.

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Re: First small steps toward free GSM firmware

2013-10-29 Thread dmatthews.org
This is something I've quietly had an interest in for a year plus.

I'd like to suggest that it would be beneficial not only to have some hand 
holding for people that want to compile, but also sample binary for those of us 
that may not have easy access to necessary hardware and software.

I might have had some qualms about repercussions of using this software in 
Europe, but I'm moving somewhere with good network coverage, only difficult 
access to other IT facilities and the PTB overwhelmed with priorities other 
than some guy messing with his phone.

I'd be able and would love to test once this effort approaches some level of 
maturity.


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Re: [ANN] Tweakable finger-friendly Xmonad + xvkbd + dzen2 ready-to-use config

2013-03-06 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Paul
 
 After getting tired enough of my inability to make E17 Illume do what
 I wanted, I decided to try another route and prepared a configuration
 that I was actually able to fine-tune to my liking, based on simple
 to understand and tweak software.
 
 Along with Xmonad config, xvkbd tweaks and a bash wrapper for dzen2
 I've also added some notes about from-scratch X.org configuration for
 gta02, gta04 and about creating a custom Xkb setup.
 
have you managed to integrate the phoneui stuff?

would you mind providing a dpkg --get-selections and sources.list?

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Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP

2013-02-19 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Aaron

 
 I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX.  I used this [1] as a guide to get 
 things working.  The author has some broken links to his configuration 
 files, though.  Here are the corrected links:
 
 http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf
 http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf
 http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc
 
Thanks for those links - that is very encouraging - I'll be giving this a try

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Re: QtMoko backup/restore

2012-11-18 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil

 1. it wants to mount and unmount the device (/media/card) where backups
 are stored, whereas QtMoko wants /media/card mounted the whole time

That's not the case. You can configure it to backup to a directory on the same 
device as the one you're backing up.

 2. it wants to use symbolic links on the backup device, which FAT
 doesn't support.
 

You could make a ext2/3 partition on the card and have that mounted on 
/media/card with a backup directory.

Although I'm not wanting to do this myself, I've no doubt it's doable. I'm a 
long term backup2l user - I fell in love with it after reimaging a foobarred 
server and having everything back up exactly as it was within an hour.

IMO backup2l is an unsung gem

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Re: QtMoko backup/restore

2012-11-17 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil
 
 - It should be pretty quick and easy to write scripts to do this.  A GUI
   would be nice, but that can come later.
 
 Thoughts?  Does anyone already have such scripts?
 

backup2l?

The best documentation is here:-

http://symbiosis.bytemark.co.uk/squeeze/docs/symbiosis.html#ch-backup-reference

nb symbiosis is a debian based easy hosting system that includes backup2l; 
since backup2l is basically a shell script it doesn't care what sort of linux 
it's running on. There are debian paclages.

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-27 Thread dmatthews.org
I gave this another go after reading Robin's report of success and
(embarassed face) I managed to send an email using the fastmail smtp service

No idea what was different; all  I can think is I hit on some permutation I 
didn't try before - I am using different encryption type and authentication 
methods. 

Apologies to Neil if I diverted much energy away from something more 
productive, I'm trying to find a palatable hat (to eat)

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neal



I pretty much agree with what you say

 When you want to send email via an SMTP server that isn't in your own
 immediate network, the client needs to authenticate itself to the
 server.  Otherwise that server would be an open relay, which is a big

but you neglected the option to allow relaying from a particular ip address.

I've done that in the past and afaik it's quite satisfactory if you have a 
static ip address on your adsl line.

And to specifics .

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-07 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neal

 
   - In the next window “Account name” You must write in your username, for
 example, if your e-mail address is supp...@inbox.lv then Your “Account
 name” will be “support”.
 
 Could that be the problem?  I.e. your ID should be just dmatthews?
 
No - although I'm pretty sure that is wrong; I tried dmatth...@inbox.lv in 
desperation after trying dmatthews.

Since I'm hazy about the difference between PLAIN and LOGIN, I've basically 
tried every conceivable combination against 3 different SMTP servers. 
Everything fails on v48; on V35 I can definitely still use the fastmail SMTP 
service (at least), with minimal fiddling.

The nub is that from v2x up to v35 - that's all it ever required - minimal 
fiddling at the most. I'm pretty sure this is not a PEBKAC - there's some 
change somtime since v35 that has introduced a problem :-)

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-10-03 Thread dmatthews.org
On Wed, 03 Oct 2012 00:07:32 +0100
Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote:

Thanks - interesting thought, but it doesn't do the trick, although I suspect 
it was part of the problem - the errors no longer include moans about 
certifcates. Not sure if v35 included the ca-certificates - but I wasn't using 
TLS then anyway (to recap at that time I used unencrypted login against a 
different smtp server and that does not work in version 48)

I tried every conceivable TLS setting against 2 servers, one of which is my own 
and that I know works with desktop email clients.

here's a sample reject from the server:-

2012-10-03 17:55:41 TLS error on connection from [81.187.28.181] (recv): A TLS 
packet with unexpected length was received.
2012-10-03 17:55:41 TLS error on connection from [81.187.28.181] (send): The 
specified session has been invalidated for some reason.


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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-24 Thread dmatthews.org
Here's some more smtp debugging - I'm now using the mail.inbox.lv server which 
supports unencrypted and TLS access

Trying port 587 with TLS:-

Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-STARTTLS^M
Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN^M
Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES^M
Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250-8BITMIME^M
Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: 250 DSN 
Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  StartTLS: sent: STARTTLS 
Sep 24 20:01:37 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 220 2.0.0 Ready to start TLS 
Sep 24 20:01:38 neo Qtopia: Encrypted connect warnings: 'The root certificate 
of the certificate chain is self-signed, and untrusted' 
Sep 24 20:01:38 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 
Sep 24 20:01:38 neo Qtopia: socketError: 13 : The root certificate of the 
certificate chain is self-signed, and untrusted 

I get the same message whether I set authentication to login or plain (I'm 
uncertain which would be correct), but also to none and imap (which I'd expect 
to be wrong. This makes me think I was too hasty to blame my own mail server's 
self-signed certificate.

Changing to port 25 which is also supported by the server gives the same error

Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Init: sent: EHLO qtopia-messageserver 
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 250-mail.inbox.lv^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-PIPELINING^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-SIZE 5990^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-VRFY^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-ETRN^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-STARTTLS^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250-8BITMIME^M
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: 250 DSN 
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Auth: sent: AUTH LOGIN  
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 334 VXNlcm5hbWU6 
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  AuthUser: sent: ZG1hdHRoZXdzQGluYm94Lmx2 
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 334 UGFzc3dvcmQ6 
Sep 24 20:26:18 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  AuthPass: sent: Base64 password hidden 
Sep 24 20:26:22 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication 
failed: authentication failure 
Sep 24 20:26:22 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 

With no encryption on port 25:-

Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Init: sent: EHLO qtopia-messageserver 
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 250-mail.inbox.lv^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-PIPELINING^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-SIZE 5990^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-VRFY^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-ETRN^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-STARTTLS^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-AUTH LOGIN PLAIN^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250-8BITMIME^M
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: 250 DSN 
Sep 24 20:28:50 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Auth: sent: AUTH PLAIN  Base64 
username/password hidden 
Sep 24 20:28:54 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  response: 535 5.7.8 Error: authentication 
failed: authentication failure 
Sep 24 20:28:54 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 

Similar result if I try login authentication except the difference does get 
logged. I'm *definitely* configuring the gui with the correct username and 
password and that shows up correctly to the qtopiamail.conf. Why do the logs 
report STARTTLS when I've not configured that?

I need to stop thinking about this, I'm resigned to v48 not being able to send 
email anyway I know how - sad as for me there was no problem with v35. 

Hope this info is of use to someone. Does anyone suceed in doing this?


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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-23 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil, Radek

 
 However, I think that point is not far above the raw SMTP level, so I
 wonder if it would help to enable SMTP logging and see what that shows?
 To do that, go into Home, Settings, Logging; choose YES twice; then
 choose Categories... from the context menu, and check SMTP; then back
 all the way out.  (You don't need to restart QtMoko, despite what it
 says.)
 
 Then repro the sending error.  Then go back into Logging and see what it
 says.
 
Ok - have tried this and I think I have some useful information.

1) Firstly - attempting TLS connection to my own mail server. The neo connects, 
sees the certificate and that it is self signed and backs off. That's almost 
fair enough, but not what I want. Desktop email clients give the option to 
accept the certificate anyway, either temporarily or permanently and that would 
be more useful behaviour. 

Incidentally this is *not* the problem I believe to be a regression, when I was 
using earlier versions I never tried to use my own mail server - at the time I 
didn't have it set up to authenticate, rather just to relay only from my home 
ip - not much use with the phone, hence historically why I used the fastmail 
smtp service.

2) On to trying the fastmail server; first using SSL - once again this is *not* 
what I used to do, so not what I'm reporting as a regression:-

 Encrypted connect warnings: 'The issuer certificate of a locally looked up 
certificate could not be found', 'The root CA certificate is not trusted for 
this purpose' 
Sep 23 13:38:19 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 
Sep 23 13:38:19 neo Qtopia: socketError: 13 : The issuer certificate of a 
locally looked up certificate could not be found 

It does seem to be erroneous behaviour though, the remote server not being 
involved at all?

3) Finally I attempt unencrypted access to the fastmail server - this is what 
definitely works in v35 (I tried it just a few days ago):-

Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  newConnection 
Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Open SMTP connection 
Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: socketError: 0 : Connection refused 
Sep 23 13:47:09 neo Qtopia: SMTP :  Closed connection 

I'd be most interested in a work around to get 1) working if it's possible, but 
seems to me to be 3 seperate problems in this one area

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-20 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil

 However, I think that point is not far above the raw SMTP level, so I
 wonder if it would help to enable SMTP logging and see what that shows?
 To do that, go into Home, Settings, Logging; choose YES twice; then
 choose Categories... from the context menu, and check SMTP; then back
 all the way out.  (You don't need to restart QtMoko, despite what it
 says.)
 
I'm not going to get around to trying that tonight, but here's an update on 
further pokings, more interesting than successful.

First, still using the fastmail smtp server - I tried unencrypted and TLS 
access, the first fails on port 25 in the same way as SSL, but the second gives 
an error from the remote server - so with TLS set, packets are actually leaving 
the neo although the connection fails. That seemed fair enough as I think I was 
wrong about TLS support at fastmail - I seemed to have been looking at an old 
page.

Ah - but my own mail server does support TLS. Damn - I get the original error 
message again, but after a long enough gap to suggest things are happening 
beyond the phone. Sure enough - in the mail servers logs now there is something 
(dunno why I did not see this a couple of days ago):-

2012-09-20 19:23:59 TLS error on connection from [x.x.x.x] (recv): A TLS packet 
with unexpected length was received.

2012-09-20 19:23:59 TLS error on connection from [x.x.x.x] (send): The 
specified session has been invalidated for some reason.

So why don't I see the Remote server closed the session error on the phone as I 
do with a TLS attempt at fastmail? I guess that could be different server 
behaviour rather than inconsistency with qtmoko

Enough for one night - will try Neils suggestion for further info over the 
weekend.

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-19 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Neil, Radek

I spent some time on what I believe are the email issues.

First thing I did to ensure I'm not going mad is the flash back to v35. As I 
remembered, I can create an account without bothering with correct settings, 
put the qtopiamail.conf in place and everything works.

Next I flashed the 2nd v48 image - the situation has improved - the problem 
with the Get all mail entry disappearing has ... well disappeared - it does 
work fine. Despite what you thought - a difference in v48-1 with the upgraded 
qtmoko package installed on top as against the good v48-2? Can't be sure, but 
at least it's gone away for me.

Trying to send mail though, that problem is as I reported already; I'm using 
the same qtopiamail.conf I just used in v35 which specifies the fastmail SMTP 
server (which I can ping) - sending a test mail to myself at dmatthews.org 
gives this rather generic looking error:-

dmatthews.org -Error sending
Email:Error occurred
[Unknown error]

If this is the real problem that I think it to be, since I jumped from v37 to 
v48 without ever trying the in between offerings, I'm not much help at pinning 
down when it was introduced

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-18 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi

I found a single area with (what appears to me to be) regressions - email
I have a copy of a known good qtopiamail.conf which I just put into place 
after a slapdash account creation. I can retrieve the folder list, but the 
Fetch all mail option only sporadically appears so the imap inbox is not 
really usable. I never managed to send mail, getting socket errors every time.

I've just spent another couple of hours checking over this

1. it's actually Get all mail and you should see that if you highlight your 
email inbox. After fetching mail once it reliably disappears from the menu. I 
found two ways to bring it back - a reboot and weirdly, a sms message arriving! 
(new email arriving makes no difference)

2. Socket error on trying to send mail - I was pretty certain this was failing 
too quickly to actually be going out and trying to authenticate. I have 
generally used the fastmail.fm smtp server on the phone - not sure why, 
although possibly because it used to just work without too much fiddling.

So I sacrificed the previously known good config in the copied qtopiamail.conf 
file that served me through several versions of qtmoko and entered details of 
my own mail server. I can then look at it's logs for information about a failed 
smtp connection - as I suspected, there is nothing there.

In summary I'm pretty sure these are real problems on the neo that did not 
exist, in for instance versions 26 and 35. That's a pity as in much else there 
have been very noticeable improvements.

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Re: QtMoko v48 neofreerunner

2012-09-17 Thread dmatthews.org
I've not used qtmoko or the neo for some while, maybe this feedback is helpful.

Overall v48 seems pretty good, stable, reasonable battery life and most of the 
core stuff works pretty well (great work Radek!):-

*send and receive phone calls - call quality ok
*send and receive sms
*connect to home wifi (open with MAC filtering)
*connect to GPRS
*GPS quick fix :-)

I'd not used the new keyboard before - I found it pretty cranky at first, but 
actually it works pretty good once you get used to it.

I found a single area with (what appears to me to be) regressions - email
I have a copy of a known good qtopiamail.conf which I just put into place after 
a slapdash account creation. I can retrieve the folder list, but the Fetch all 
mail option only sporadically appears so the imap inbox is not really usable. 
I never managed to send mail, getting socket errors everytime.


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Re: QtMoko v48

2012-09-13 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Radek

scp-ing those two replacement libs into /opt/qtmoko/lib/ reliably breaks an 
install onto freerunner nand - qtmoko immediately freezes and if you reboot 
will not restart.

I tried this 3 times - reflashing the rootfs, then I realized that the system 
is up (you can ssh in) but no graphical interface.

I tried to start qpe directly:-

/opt/qtmoko/qpe.
qpe.env  qpe.sh   
root@neo:~# /opt/qtmoko/qpe.sh 
Cannot create semaphore /tmp/qtembedded-0/QtEmbedded-0 'd'
Error 22 Invalid argument 
Cannot get display lock
Aborted

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Re: ideas for a personal cluster with gta04

2012-06-05 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Joakim

Your client/server ideas made for an interseting post

I wondered what software you had in mind for this:-

 
 *** mapping/location data
 open streetmap maps. 
 A gpsd on the client feeds the cluster with location data.
 

Could you give a little more detail please

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Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?

2012-05-03 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Thomas
 
 I was looking back for the Serdar Dere's android installers. It was 
 great, and I'm sad the site is empty now.

Indeed yes

 Does anyone has any backup of those images/files ?
 
I have 

android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20110312.tar.gz
and
android-on-freerunner-cupcake-sd-daily-20110312.tar.gz

Both work well, but eat battery even by freerunner standards; the sd card 
version is best if you want to customize things. I could stick either or both 
on a server temporarily if you like.


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Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-02-29 Thread dmatthews.org
hey

 E.g.
 * QtMoko  SHR vs. Android  iOS  Win Mobile etc.!
 * GTA04's flexibility and hw-modifiability vs. any commercial device!
 * the art of self modifiable 3D-printed case vs. take what you get!

I think you would need to fine tune that example.

There is at least one android version that work rather nicely on the 
freerunner, not good battery life being the one draw back. I don't think you 
should be making an enemy of android.


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Re: How to bring forward the community?

2012-02-29 Thread dmatthews.org

 Android is not a real enemy, but #1. So whom to compete with? And why?
 
 What I therefore think we should support is:
 
 http://fsfe.org/campaigns/android/android.en.html
 

Yes that makes more sense; while I'm at it my 2 cents regarding more general 
problems.I know this has been discussed already and I understand the financial 
angle, but the freerunner screen compared to the latest and greatest 

No matter how much better you are making the rest of the hardware, with the 
freerunner screen you have a device that is not anywhere near top league.

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Re: question about installing android on FR

2012-01-19 Thread dmatthews.org
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:49:43 +0100
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:


 
 For Android to work properly the Micro SD Card in your FreeRunner needs to
 have 2 primary partitions. The first needs to be a VFAT/MSDOS (16 or 32)
 partition which is used is mounted as '/sdcard', this is used as a storage
 area (for pictures, movies, music, etc). The second is an ext3 partition
 which Android mounts as '/data', this is where it stores settings, caches,
 etc.
 
 Experience has shown that sizing these at a ratio of 3 to 1 works best. So
 if you have a 4GB card make a 3GB vfat partition and a 1GB ext3 partion.

Interestingly my android install does not seem to use the ext3 partition - 
looks like I wasted some sdcard space making that?

This is an install from ran's cupcake image:-

# mount
rootfs / rootfs ro 0 0
tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0
devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0
proc /proc proc rw 0 0
sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0
tmpfs /sqlite_stmt_journals tmpfs rw,size=4096k 0 0
/dev/block/mtdblock6 /system jffs2 ro 0 0
/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard vfat 
rw,nosuid,nodev,fmask=,dmask=,allow_utime=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1
 0 0
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Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02

2011-12-17 Thread dmatthews.org
I've a couple of queries (v37 gta02)

1. some of the keyboards are now redundant, to my mind just the new large 
landscape one and the docked keyboard for use with the console are sufficient. 
Is it possible to remove the others to make the switching keyboard routine 
slicker?

2. any idea if the built in voip client can be expected to work?

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Re: QtMoko docs online

2011-12-11 Thread dmatthews.org
Radek

Thanks for the latest freerunner release

Here's some quick reaction that may be helpful:-

Only way I could do the upgrade from v35 was to wget the v37 deb and install 
with

dpkg -i

Not sure why I could not apt-get as I seemed to have the repository correct.

At first it looked a bit doubtful that this had gone cleanly, but after the 
reboot I have the new big keyboard which is great. 

A wish list would be to add a few extra keys and make it useful with the 
terminal - I'm thinking tab complete, ^ for bash history and / path separator.

Now I go to test some more :)

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Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA04

2011-12-03 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Radek
 
 thanks (as ususal) for your great work. Yes, please do a GTA02 release if
 possible. Especially the keyboard was one reason why Qtmoko may have not been 
 as
 popular as it deserves to be. With the big landscape keyboard this will all 
 change!
 
 BR
 
 Robin

+1 

I hope the gta04 succeeds, but I'm not sure I'll be jumping from the 
freerunner. I hope that enhancements made to qtmoko will be ported back to the 
older hware for the forseable future.

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Re: GTA04 openness/freedom (was GTA04 Group Buy - Status)

2011-12-03 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Michael

Well I for one would like a smartphone with completely open software - if an 
open implementation of baseband code also led to an improvement in user 
experience on the freerunner, that would be a bonus. Like you, I'm not too 
concerned about rules imposed on us by large corporations, if the code is good, 
they will not know their rules are being broken.

I can understand that the calypso currently is the best chance to achieve this; 
it is nice to imagine this will be done and then act like a trojan to open the 
gates wide for other projects. 

I've no knowledge of how to code directly to hardware, so I'm never going to be 
more than a bystander, at least not until the stage was reached where testing 
could be done. I have no clue whether what you say, about people in the free 
software camp witholding code/information from you is a fact. As I bystander, 
if it were true it is dissappointing, although I think you have gone about this 
in a very sub-optimal way and that you should step back and consider how to 
approach people who may (or indeed may not) be able to help you.

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Re: [SHR] CLEANMARKER node found [and something more I can't read]

2011-11-27 Thread dmatthews.org
 
 After a very, very long time, the system is booted, and it seems fine,
 but the load time seems wrong.
 
I think that is normal the first time SHR boots up; if you reboot now I think 
it will come backup much quicker?

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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-27 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Timo, Xavier

I think I proved that the 4GB SanDisk will not work ^_^; I tried putting

rootwait glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_drive=3

in /boot/append-GTA02, but I get a kernel panic, can't find root fs. It is 
interesting though, I think before it just booted from NAND instead of card.

Xavier - that wiki of yours looks really good (pity that's not true of my 
French!). It reinforces what I've said though, that there is really helpful 
GTA-02 information out there, that is not very easy to find.

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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-26 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Robin

I think I agree with you 100% on everything you say. 

Improved keyboards on qtmoko would be just what was needed - not just for sm 
message, we need a good virtual PC keyboard as well. Apart from keyboards, with 
a few tweaks, Qtmoko 35, running from sd card is actually pretty good.

Unfortunately I'm also not able to program in C C++ :)

 
 Hi Matthias,
 
 in my opinion qtmoko is the most stable one. the only major drawback is the 
 keyboard in my opinion, but I have seen that radek has been working on a big 
 landscape keyboard for sms, so there may be a (early) Xmas gift from him. 
 Regarding the keyboard I found android a bit slow (otherwise the most 
 polished 
 software for the freerunner with the best navit default setups). shr-core 
 seems 
 to be advancing quickly and has most of the standard linux apps one may 
 know 
 from one's desktop though I have the feeling the libraries are changing so 
 quickly that very often stuff gets broken which is necessary for a daily 
 phone. 
 In my opinion the predictive keyboard is great though, and having that in a 
 landscape enlarged version would be great.
 Regarding PIM applications I haven't found a single one which would actually 
 allow for easy syncing with the desktop. Shuffle on android is a great 
 getting 
 things done app and anki flashcard learning has also got me stuck at least 
 with 
 one partition on android.
 the problem I as a very semi-skilled programmer have with all of the 
 distributions is that I haven't yet found any straight forward tutorials on 
 how 
 to create little apps/eg front ends for command line calls or so, so 
 developing 
 is out of range for me.
 
 best regards
 
 robin
 
 
 
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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-26 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Ben

 
 A while ago I began a very simple tutorial on how to write a hello world 
 app for the
 SHR wiki :-
  http://shr-project.org/trac/wiki/Developing%20your%20own%20applications
 
 Someone else then added a some very handy info about connecting to FSO. The
 idea was to show how to get started with Vala which should be easy to pick up 
 for
 people with a little knowledge of Java.

Thanks - that is to me an intriguing article, since I'm very happy writing 
stuff in java /  groovy although I know no C / C++. I guess though that a Vala 
program assumes it will run under X and so is not an answer if you use qtmoko.

Nevertheless, this has got me thinking more about thoughts I had already.

I recently went back to using qtmoko after an extended try of SHR, which has 
come on in leaps and bounds although I found the way (at the moment) it 
(mis)handles text messages hugely annoying in the end. My attitude was I want 
to reduce my annoyance level with this charming device to about zero and I have 
more or less done that.

However it took a good long while researching various aspects of Freerunner 
lore which I found only wirh some difficulty, scattered over several places. Am 
I right to think there's a good case for a resource ok I have a freerunner, 
now what. Or maybe the part of the whole world that has a freerunner already 
knows what to do and is more interested in gta-04 now. 

I'd be happy to host something myself if there was no other place to collate 
this sort of information


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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-26 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Matthias

 Like a few others I'd recommend giving QtMoko a try. I've been pretty
 happy with it myself and it works fairly well when using the FR
 primarily as a phone. I've been using v31 on NAND and playing with v36
 on an SD card. I find it the easiest distro to live with.
 
+1
 I've just spent the morning trying out the Android SD card only install
 for Froyo. It's a bit quirky and prone to crashing but I'll chalk that
 up to using a bad SD card as QtMoko locked up on the same card. My
 previous experience with Cupcake on NAND was better. But you're already
 familiar with Android on FR.
 
+1 also - as the early documentation implied, the freerunner is very finicky 
about the SD card eg for me a 2GB SanDisk is fine - a brand new 4GB SanDisk 
loses it's partition table after a reboot :). I can't even be sure, that I was 
not just lucky with the 2GB card and unlucky with the 4GB one - maybe another 
ostensibly the same, would be fine?
 

 I haven't used SHR in a very long time and I was initially pleased with
 it. Using a distro that runs X has it's advantages and it's easier to
 work with in a number of ways. SHR used to stand for Stable Hybrid
 Release but there have only ever been testing and unstable branches. No
 disrespect to the devs but I gave up on using it when it wiped all the
 contacts from my SIM card. Which wouldn't have been a big deal back
 when I used to be able to recall names and the numbers associated with
 them from memory but those days are long gone. For the younger folks
 this is how PIM worked before we had the term and we used dead tree
 media as a backup! The testing branch images are looking pretty stale
 (27-Sep-2010 23:55) but the unstable branch is newer (22-Aug-2011
 14:33).
 
again +1 SHR really has improved a lot, although there are still for me major 
annoyances that make me go back to qtmoko.

 I'd probably try it again but unless someone can confirm it won't wipe
 my SIM contacts I'm only willing to dip my toes in the water sans SIM
 card. Since I use my FR as a phone this is an unrealistic situation.
 It's a shame really since I miss X native apps a lot. :(
 
Well I can confirm that at least I never saw that problem after an extended 
several month trial. The bugbears of the August unstable version for me are
1. not very stable (ok unstable so fair enough) - misbehaves big time unless 
rebooted often
2. poor handling of sms messages - repeatedly downloads a single text at 
erratic intervals and reporting the SIM is full, when it clearly is not.
3. bizarre busybox badness (probably a reflection of 1.)
 
  - GPS  OpenstreetMap (tango)
 On QTMoko Navit is the non X GPS app and it uses OSM data. You can run
 TangoGPS and FoxtrotGPS using QX. 

I think you mean Nerongps? Surely navit needs X. Yeah you can run 
tangogps/foxtrotgps, but on qtmoko I'd suggest instead learn to live with 
Nerongps is easier. On qtmoko see the fix for gps I posted a few days ago - I 
can't remember where I saw that, but it makes a huge difference.

  - TCP over USB and SSH into the FR
 This will work as expected for USB regardless of distro excluding
 android as it only allows ADB see [1] and [2].

yeah it's fine on qtmoko  SHR; watch the eth1, usb0 thing - which one to use 
depends on your desktop distro as well as what's on the freerunner I think.

  - Terminal with Stardict
 You get QTerminal on QtMoko and can run an xterm in QX. SHR offers the
 best experience for a CLI junkie. 

+1


 SMS and calling worked fine for me in all 3 distros albeit some mic
 tweaking was required in the past (lowering the mic volume). PIM is
 supported in all 3 but syncing on QtMoko isn't possible for me as it
 only supports syncing with a Windows machine running software that
 needs to be compiled. I don't have experience syncing with the other 2
 distros .

That was not my experience on the latest SHR unstable - see above


  Btw: I own another GTA02 with Android installed on. 

I only briefly tried android - my impression (not well tested) was that it 
might be good as a phone, but much less so as a general purpose computer in 
your pocket

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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-26 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Timo
 
 Does lowering the clock frequency help?
 
I've no idea - how is that done?

I'd be happy to test that

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Re: what do I install now?

2011-11-26 Thread dmatthews.org
Hi Timo


 
 Try passing the following parameters to linux:
 
 glamo_mci.sd_max_clk=500 glamo_mci.sd_drive=3
 
Thanks and I just saw more info about this here:-
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Supported_microSD_cards

I'll give that a try tomorrow and let you know.

Incidentally this looks like more support for my i have a freerunner, what 
now resource - useful info just seems to be splatted around in too many 
different places

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Re: I2C and GPS

2011-11-23 Thread dmatthews.org
On Tue, 22 Nov 2011 21:20:16 -0500
Benjamin Deering ben_deer...@swissmail.org wrote:

Hi Ben

Not sure this is relevent to you, but I now have the fastest GPS fix I've ever 
had on the freerunner.

QTMoko v35 and I put this in /etc/default/gpsd:-

START_DAEMON=true
GPSD_OPTIONS=
DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1
USBAUTO=false
GPSD_SOCKET=/var/run/gpsd.sock

Before doing this it was pretty poor - worse than earlier versions of qtmoko 
and much worse than every SHR I've tried. On a reasonably clear day I now 
reliably get a fix in under a minute, sometimes within a few seconds.

The only other varying factor (doubtful relevence) is that I got pissed with 
QTMoko and to a lesser extent SHR foobarring the SD card, so I'm now running 
from the card instead of NAND and everything is pretty good
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Re: Buiding qtmoko kernel - mssing files ...

2011-05-24 Thread dmatthews.org
hi Radek

 I am not sure what you mean by usbdevfs. If you mean usb mass storage, then 
 it's already working (there is icon for usb-mass-storage-on.sh or something 
 like that in devtools menu).

this has not worked for me since v26 - although I missed some versions between 
that and 34. From command line usb-mass-storage-on.sh:-

Seg fault
Error inserting g_file storage 
(/lib/modules/2.6.34-qtmoko/kernel/drivers/usb/gadget/g_file_storage.ko): 
Device or resource busy

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Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread dmatthews.org
 
 I tried it but then I can't get a USB connection to 192.168.0.202 . . 
 which I need for x11vnc etc . .
 
I'm finding that is problematical with the stable v35 kernel also; the only way 
I can make the desktop recognize a usb0 is by rebooting it with the phone 
already connected.

That is not reliable either, sometimes I have to reboot the desktop several 
times. Since I switched from ubuntu lucid to squeeze (on the desktop) around 
the same time as going from v26 to v34/35 on the phone, I'm not 100% on which 
one has the problem :)

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Re: Article: What happened to real open source phones?

2011-04-23 Thread dmatthews.org
Here's an illuminating article about a (well known) alternative to an open 
phone.

:)

http://www.schnews.org.uk/archive/news22-04-11.php#rotten

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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-10 Thread dmatthews.org
Here's a way to work around this problem which from discussion effects only a 
nand install and  must be (I think) a kernel bug.  Save this as 
clean_shutdown.sh and follow the commented instructions:-
_ 
#!/bin/bash

#put this in /opt/qtmoko/bin/, make executable then:-
#ln -s /opt/qtmoko/bin/clean_shutdown.sh /opt/qtmoko/bin/halt
#ln -s /opt/qtmoko/bin/clean_shutdown.sh /opt/qtmoko/bin/reboot
#ln -s /opt/qtmoko/bin/clean_shutdown.sh /opt/qtmoko/bin/shutdown

COMMAND=`basename $0`
if [ $COMMAND == shutdown ];then
   ARG0=$1
   ARG1=$2
fi

grep /media/card /proc/mounts  /dev/null
if [ $? -eq 0 ];then
   umount -f /media/card
fi

/sbin/$COMMAND $ARG0 $ARG1
_

I've tested this by halt/reboot from the neo's terminal and using the gui. It 
will not work (unadapted) if you are logged in via ssh as /opt/qtmoko/bin is 
then not in your PATH; from the neo's gui it is first in the PATH, so that 
ensures the halt/reboot commands get filtered by this script before passing to 
the real commands in /sbin.

Obviously, as is, this is qtmoko only, but there is probably a possible similar 
strategy on SHR

To summarize my experience:-
qtmoko v26 - this problem does not happen
SHR testing - I first see this issue
back to qtmoko v26 - problem goes away
qtmoko v33 -the same problem comes back


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sd card not unmounting?

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org
Brian bn...@rochester.rr.com wrote:

 This worked for me on qtmoko, I was using a bluetooth headset most of
 the time but there are some issues with that approach. Here's a link
 from a previous ml posting about audio settings:
 
 http://hnet.endofinternet.net/elektro/Freerunner/ALSA/sound_setting.html

That article solves my sound problems! - thanks for posting it.

I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to unmount it 
cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot either from the gui or 
commandline; when the neo comes back up if I fsck the card it reports that it 
was not unmounted cleanly.

I've just updated to v33 after sticking for some time with v26 - I'm pretty 
certain this behaviour did not happen in that older version. Certainly the card 
would need a fsck after a crash, but not after a clean shut down.

Would someone check this - it looks like a bug to me.
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bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org
I do think this is a bug new in v33

as described below any shutdown/reboot, whether from commandline or gui, means 
that a fsck of the card reports it was not cleanly unmounted.

I ran 

lsof | grep /media/card 

to show no open files - but this is too regular (100% reproducible) and never 
happened after a clean shutdown on v26. In any case the system should force a 
close of any unopen files and an umount before it shuts down.

  I automount a sd card partition (ext2); the system does not seem to
  unmount it cleanly. It makes no difference whether I halt or reboot
  either from the gui or commandline; when the neo comes back up if I
  fsck the card it reports that it was not unmounted cleanly.
 
 




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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org


 no, not here.
 I've v33 and works for me! (full installation on uSD with 3
 partitions: storage/rootfs/swap)

My roofs is on nand; the rootfs unmounts cleanly, but not the uSD based 
partition that I automount on /media/card

 rather, are you 100% sure about your hardware clock? otherwise system
 vs rtc clock skews may trigger a check of the filesystem!
 

I don't think this can explain it, but to check I did this:-

1. I shutdown the neo and fsck the uSD in a laptop 
2. this reports a filesystem that was not unmounted properly - same as I get on 
the Neo
3 I put the card back in the neo and start up and fsck - I have a clean 
filesystem on the uSD for the first time after a shutdown/reboot!

I think this is clear evidence of an unclean shutdown and it only happens since 
I upgrade to v33  - I don't think there is any hardware issue here.

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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org

 mmh.. I can't say anything on this topic... I've never tried nand since 
 om2008 :P
 maybe it's a bug specific for nand users with a uSD partition?

 
yes maybe - I always use the nand though and this did not happen with v26

 please try this:
 log-in via usb-ssh on your moko
 /etc/init.d/qpe stop (or through the gui shutdown qt extended)
 killall atd
 hwclock -r (check if the result is ok)
 date (verify it's the same value)
 
root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qpe stop
-bash: /etc/init.d/qpe: No such file or directory
root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qtmoko stop   
root@moke:~# killall atd
atd: no process found
root@moke:~# hwclock -r
Wed Mar  9 19:29:45 2011  -0.155039 seconds
root@moke:~# date
Wed Mar  9 19:29:55 UTC 2011
root@moke:~# 

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Re: bug: sd card not unmounting

2011-03-09 Thread dmatthews.org
I think I should add to my own post to mention that I briefly tried the January 
SHR testing a few weeks ago. That had the same problem ie (even) a clean 
shutdown - fsck reporting improper unmounting of the uSD.

To summarize my experience:-
qtmoko v26 - this problem does not happen
SHR testing - I first see this issue
back to qtmoko v26 - problem goes away
qtmoko v33 -the same problem comes back

I assume both distros are using the same kernel, so my guess is there is a 
problem there.

 
 root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qpe stop
 -bash: /etc/init.d/qpe: No such file or directory
 root@moke:~# /etc/init.d/qtmoko stop   
 root@moke:~# killall atd
 atd: no process found
 root@moke:~# hwclock -r
 Wed Mar  9 19:29:45 2011  -0.155039 seconds
 root@moke:~# date
 Wed Mar  9 19:29:55 UTC 2011
 root@moke:~# 


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Re: qtmoko33 regression in qtmaze (was: [cutemaze] on [qtmoko 33] howto control moves?)

2011-03-08 Thread dmatthews.org

 
 ouch! you're right: qtmaze regression, the ball stuck firmly in the initial 
 position!
 

:-)

I'm glad someone else reported that!

I try to use a script to switch between usb networking and mass storage but it 
is not possible to 

rmmod g_ether

I saw this problem reported way back and it seemed to have been fixed, but is 
certinly biting me in v33

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