Re: Looking to pick up a FreeRunner
2010-04...@17:02 swoody Unfortunately, this is a pretty bad time as I can't afford to lay out $200USD for a new FreeRunner. I'm a full-time student, and funds are indeed short. I was hoping somebody out there may have an extra FreeRunner, or know hi, if you can read italian (or know how to use a translator ^_^), take a look here: http://forum.telefoninux.org/index.php/board,58.0.html maybe you can find something interesting -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
beautiful qt based
hi do you know about this? http://th30z.netsons.org/2009/03/openmoko-my-phone-video-preview/ (just a prototype, work in progress) I wonder if this could be merged with qtmoko ;) regards -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] daily alarm
as you can see below, the alarm is not repeated when rang also if you set it as everyday alarm. you must remove the alarm and reactivate it again later to enable it for the next day. Apr 8 00:23:41 neo atd[1400]: Current RTC date/time is 7-4-2010, 22:23:41. Apr 8 00:23:41 neo atd[1400]: Alarm date/time is 1-1-1970, 00:00:00. Apr 8 00:23:41 neo atd[1400]: Waiting for alarm... Apr 8 00:33:41 neo atd[1400]: okay. Alarm rang. Apr 8 00:33:41 neo atd[1400]: next: -1 Apr 8 00:33:41 neo atd[1400]: waitfor 0 Apr 8 00:33:41 neo atd[1400]: Current RTC date/time is 7-4-2010, 22:33:41. Apr 8 00:33:41 neo atd[1400]: Alarm date/time is 1-1-1970, 00:00:00. Apr 8 00:33:41 neo atd[1400]: Waiting for alarm... Apr 8 00:36:07 neo Qtopia: Rejecting modal dialog: TouchScreenLockDialog [modified] Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: TRIGGER 1 Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: okay. Alarm rang. Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: next: 1270704300 Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: waitfor 1270704300 Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: Current RTC date/time is 7-4-2010, 22:38:01. Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: Alarm date/time is 8-4-2010, 05:25:00. Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: Alarm time now set to 7-04-2010 23:59:59. Apr 8 00:38:01 neo atd[1400]: Waiting for alarm... -- ALFA21 IS PROVIDED AS IS AND WITHOUT WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND, EXPRESS OR IMPLIED. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard
Ah, great. Thanks for that hint. http://git.openembedded.net/ does not exist apparently. Where can I get the patches from instead? Paul Fertser wrote: neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com writes: Maybe someone knows the answer how to use different layouts on the mbk. OE has several patches that allow to use a virtual key to switch layouts on the fly without reloading the keyboard. There's a wishlist report here [1] which includes a link to patches that can be easily incorporated in your build: [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=508004 -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5.6--Modifying-the-keyboard-tp3018214p3024349.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard
ok thanks, found it: http://cgit.openembedded.org/cgit.cgi/openembedded/tree/recipes/matchbox-keyboard/files Paul Fertser wrote: neove...@freerunner spa...@ymail.com writes: Ah, great. Thanks for that hint. http://git.openembedded.net/ does not exist apparently. Where can I get the patches from instead? Sorry, probably i mistyped it when i entered the bugreport, it's there: http://cgit.openembedded.org/ -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5.6--Modifying-the-keyboard-tp3018214p3025775.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
There is lots of space wasted. Why hasn't he put the key lines together inverted to each other? Risto H. Kurppa wrote: On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 8:27 AM, Robin Paulson robin.paul...@gmail.com wrote: apparently, triangular buttons produce less errors. http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/06/02/crocodile_keyboard/ i'm not totally convinced, but it would be worth a go, i think now, is it possible to coerce raster's keyboard into using anything other than square keys? Looks interesting! r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/a-new-keyboard---discuss-and-critique-tp3016473p3016823.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento-5.6] Modifying the keyboard
Hi Clare, thanks for your efforts :) The next neovento version will include a small configuration program which will allow you to switch between the keyboard layouts. The numpad issue is something we could not solve. With the most recent matchbox keyboard you could use different layouts on one keyboard, but we couldn't figure out how. Maybe someone knows the answer how to use different layouts on the mbk. With that feature this would be the best keyboard available on the FR regarding usability. clare johnstone wrote: Hi; I am finding a lot of improvements in this latest version; and I have not been able to try a lot of them, due to lack of time. however I have changed the keyboard (attached). The main reason was that some keys were not there. Especially some that I needed. e.g. backslash I now have on it all the keys on my normal keyboard I think. I have tried to arrange them with some logic, mainly that on the 123 page are most of the things I want to write on the computer terminal. The third collection is not well arranged and has plenty of empty slots. I think the european language characters and some others will fit well there. I have found a few. the sources I am using for characters are: http://www.webmonkey.com/reference/Special_Characters and http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/sgml/entities.html#h-24.2.1 Does anyone know how I could make a numbers lock which would keep the 123 page in place while it was being used? It is possible, but annoying to have to hit 123 before every number. I hoped to put that function just above the 123 key. thank you, clare -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5.6--Modifying-the-keyboard-tp3018214p3018566.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: a new keyboard - discuss and critique
What about first building a decent keyboard with normal keys and then dream about triangular keys glory? Such a triangular keyboard uses lots of space, maybe twice the space of a normal keyboard. That's certainly not useful on the small freerunner screen which is also cramped by the casing frame. It's sad that this community couldn't even manage to build a decent keyboard for the freerunner within one year. Is there even any attempt to make one? rusolis wrote: 2009/6/3 Carsten Haitzler ras...@rasterman.com but u'll hit dead space (nothing) about 50% more often than the actual key you intended to hit now (as 50% of the area it would have normally used is now dead space). for a physical kbd it might help as u have better tactile feel as u have more edge near the finger, but for a touchscreen - all you do is lose 50% of he area you had before for hitting keys. (admittedly for mis-types now where you would have hit another key there is less area to hit too). so you lose more keypresses (you lost 50% of the hit area), but you lost mis-hit area too. one way or another - you press, then quickly press next key, but then notice that the previous key wasn't hit - u still need to backspace and re-enter again (possibly missing again). you just give up 1 kind of error for another kind I'm amazed how much you guys can theorize about the idea before actually trying it. Is it because of allergy to patents? I bet we could use the general idea if we wanted to, without violating the patent. Just change the shape of the keys or something. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/a-new-keyboard---discuss-and-critique-tp3016473p3019034.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)
xserver-kdrive-glamo - 1:1.3.0.0+git2839+4067470ea4d569bae7b4161ca998645a0c9b96e7-r6 - OM2008.08 pointing at Zecke testing feeds, 'opkg update'd daily. j On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:58:15 +0200, Benito Torres [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 21:04 (-0400), Joel Newkirk wrote: With 2008.08 when I plug in any simple (IE single USB device, no extraneous lighted keys) keyboard it is functional, and the onscreen keyboard silently goes away as long as it's plugged in. Would you tell me which version of xserver-kdrive-glamo you're using? Thx, /Ben ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Substitute batteries
OK, I have a few Nokia batteries laying around, BL-5c and BL-6c, and desktop chargers. They power the Freerunner fine, and seem to charge when they're in the FR plugged in. But the Freerunner doesn't know what to do with them apart from that, presumably since they lack the Openmoko coulomb counter circuit. So the questions are: Is it safe to charge one to capacity in the Freerunner? I'm not confident it can sense when to stop charging. Can the battery applet be expanded to be able to provide a capacity estimate for non-openmoko batteries? (base it off voltage from battery? How do most cellphones come up with their estimates?) How complex is the coulomb-counter circuit - is it something that could be acquired and retrofitted onto a Nokia battery with moderate modifications of the casing? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
kernel module dev
I've got a question on kernel development. I want to try to get some USB webcam support working, which requires gspca plus usb-video and a few other modules, not presently being build. can someone lead me by the hand to the simplest path to being able to build modules for the 2008.08 kernel? Until recently gspca has been built outside the kernel source tree, but apparently is merged into the standard kernel source as of 2.6.26 or 2.6.27. This driver covers perhaps 35% of USB webcams, including much of the Logitech line. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB keyboards silent in terminal (FSO)
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:09:56 +1000, Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 21:04:41 -0400 Joel Newkirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] babbled: With 2008.08 when I plug in any simple (IE single USB device, no extraneous lighted keys) keyboard it is functional, and the onscreen keyboard silently goes away as aaah excellent. my hardware keyboard detection works... reported with bluetooth and usb... excellent! happiness is me. :) And me as well... Thank you sir for your myriad efforts to allow us to actually type something useful unto our Freerunners. j -- Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release
Is 'next batch of Freerunners' referring to further units destined for developers and enthusiasts, or units targeting consumers? For the former: I'd think OM2008.08, 'opkg upgrade'd past a few irritations, with developer-friendly keyboard (g) and Terminal. These people should easily be up to the task of flashing to whatever they wish, though a tool (ncurses and gui lin/win) to manage flashing, store and index possibly multiple backups, etc would be handy. For the latter: Qtopia, with a one-click 'installer' on CD or thumbdrive that lets user backup flash to desktop, flash OM2008.08 from media, look for newest OS images on net, etc. If OM2008.08 has acquired a bit more maturity, I'd consider it for consumers, with Qtopia being the default interface the user sees, but not just Qtopia apps accessible in the installer. j On Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:00:48 -0700, Steve Mosher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That was actually an option we considered. Michele Renda wrote: Ship with nothing and everyone put what want So nobody can say it is not a complete software :) steve wrote: Good question. Here are the options. 1. Ship with 2007.2. Basicaly a dialer that works. bare bones phone. 2. Ship with Qtopia. A solid full featured smart phone. 3. Ship with OM2008.8 An alpha release of our future phone. discuss. *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Charles Pax *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2008 12:24 PM *To:* List for Openmoko community discussion *Subject:* Re: Openmoko Om 2008.8 Release Will this be shipping with the next batch of Freerunners? -Charles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Lock version of package with opkg
On Wed, 20 Aug 2008 00:09:12 +0200, Mikael Berthe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, * [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-19 20:21 +0200]: I'm using the scaredycat repo and gpsd doesn't seem to work right. Is there any way to lock the old version so I can do an 'opkg upgrade' without upgrading gpsd? opkg flag hold gpsd should do it. I was wondering about that one. What about opkg flag user gpsd - I'm guessing, but that sounds like it's meant to flag a package as manually managed by the user. j HTH, -- MiKael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
WiFi issues (was Re: Using freerunner as a telephone)
I'm running 2008.08 and am also unable to get the Wifi tool in 'Settings' to connect to a WPA-protected AP. Manually from terminal it works one time out of every 5 or 6 attempts. (oddly, likelihood seems greater if subsequent attempts are immediate - the first attempt ALWAYS fails) The failed console attempts report that dhcp discover failed, but deeper investigation shows that it does NOT have WPA enabled on eth0. Connection to unsecured AP works (console or GUI) about 75% of the time. DNS seems to be picked up correctly from both WPA and open networks, though I keep it pointing at a local djbdns dnscache on the Freerunner. (will probably work up an ipk of that over the weekend - it makes a HUGE difference with some things, for example tangoGPS apparently insists on doing a new lookup of 'tile.openstreetmap.org' for every single tile - cached localhost lookup is a huge time savings there) j - Original Message - From: Cédric Berger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org Subject: Re: Using freerunner as a telephone Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 14:13:41 +0200 * Wifi : not much success. There is a configuration application quite complete but it still need a little polish. WPA access did not work, and I think DNS config via DHCP (when on unencrypted wifi) didn't either, but since WPA was not ok, I did not test much. So encryption support needs to be activated/configured. But configuration app already is ready for it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
