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On Fri 23 February 2018 12:52:22 joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> On Fri 23 February 2018 12:43:08 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> > And the page http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git lists it in the
> > "URL" section as
> >
> > g...@github.com:
On Fri 23 February 2018 12:43:08 H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
> And the page http://git.goldelico.com/?p=gta04-qtmoko.git lists it in the
> "URL" section as
>
> g...@github.com:goldelico/gta04-qtmoko.git
which is a verbatim quote and AIUI no correctly formed URL
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On Tue 10 October 2017 12:38:54 Mychaela Falconia wrote:
> I forgot to add:
> : Option 3: new production of Neo FreeRunner (GTA02) verbatim clones.
>
> If people do desire to see new production of verbatim GTA02 clones
> that differ from FIC-made ones only in the manufacturing dates and the
>
the moral aspects of calling somebody out for removing "no parking" signs so
people would have to pay tickets for unknowingly parking there, or not telling
people that they are in danger to even *do time in jail* when they install and
use a firmware that person provides, are not arguable in my
for the rest:
telling OM about alleged violations of rules while bluntly admitting that you
yourself don't care abouzt rules, have no clue about them and think they are
made to get violated... YES that is the spacefalcon we know and love ... *NOT*
wanna come shoot me once more? Or do you think
On Mon 28 August 2017 22:33:03 Mychaela Falconia wrote:
> > thus rendering any operation of the device outside controlled self-
> > contained lab environment illegal.
>
> Yup, just like using hormonal birth control from an overseas pharmacy
> without allowing a doctor to sexually violate you
On Mon 28 August 2017 11:29:17 m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
> The relevant howto includes a link to the release notes which include
> reasons why you might wish to do this.
Can't find any such link to release notes in the howto
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> after several years of running the OpenPhoenux community, we
> thought that it is time to refresh it a little and replace the awkward
> name "OpenPhoenux" (it was always
On Tue 26 January 2016 09:18:57 Radek Polak wrote:
> My Freerunner has no longer working GPS, so i am not using it nowadays at
> all.
What's the problem with the GPS? Could a spare antenna module incl cable help
you out?
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On Wed 13 May 2015 09:45:51 NeilBrown wrote:
I've been trying to think what components are left that I haven't examined
as closely as I can and one that has occurred to me recently is the memory.
I presume this needs to be put in a low power mode and I assumed that it
was. Maybe it is ... I
On Sat 18 April 2015 17:41:02 Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote:
I would never had been able to work on a project like FreeCalypso -
neither technically nor emotionally - while there were persons in the
so-called community taunting me with we have this source which
would make a night-and-day
On Sat 18 April 2015 20:22:31 m...@dmatthews.org wrote:
yeah crazy - the four freedoms on a cell phone - only a nut case would dream
that one up
you're completely missing the point.
this guy threatening OM and me personally to kill me when I don't grant him
access to sources which even OM had
On Sat 18 April 2015 09:41:03 n...@ossau.homelinux.net wrote:
I wonder if you might now consider retracting and apologising for those, and
undertake not to repeat similar in future?
Thanks for brining it up, Neil. Alas, you see, it's in vain. Despite all the
good will from our side. This guy
On Sat 18 April 2015 21:32:21 Spacefalcon the Outlaw wrote:
I am not
asking you to publicly apologize for the 2 years of mental TORTURE you
put me through - so why are people asking me to apologize for my
reaction to that torture?
Listen buddy!
NOBODY TORTURED YOU, except you yourself did
On Mon 16 March 2015 10:43:51 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Our key problem is that we don’t have a big budget to spend for a new GTA05
that can compete with others.
The Neo900 UG long term business plan has perspectives to change that,
eventually :-)
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can that be ?
What would it take ? $5M ? $10M ? $30M ?
STEP2 will need sth like that, yes. Going to start as soon as Neo900 proofed
that we actually can do
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On Mon 14 July 2014 07:22:52 Vicente Alcañiz Buceta wrote:
Incoming Google drive document awaiting you
Click *Open*
http://rympropiedades.com/templ ates/account-login-shareing-
docs/index2.php
to view the shared docs
View accessible PDF, DOCX, PPTX,
On Mon 30 June 2014 02:31:57 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
Q:
So what the heck have these people been doing for
the past 3.5 years??
A:
Their thing they been interested in, instead of bitching at others, like you
do.
Not everybody shares your approach and goals, some even find such goals
On Tue 17 June 2014 19:07:36 Robert 'Bobby' Zenz wrote:
Pong from Austria, still happy with my GTA02 (would like a GTA04,
though).
I wish everyone a good summer!
How about a Neo900?
http://neo900.org
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Please consider that - it seems / I heard - several 850/900 and 1800/1900
cells are getting reassigned in USA from GSM to UMTS or even LTE during last
year. Ongoing.
good luck!
jOERG
On Mon 19 May 2014 08:27:15 Nick wrote:
Quoth Michael Spacefalcon:
Nick openmoko-commun...@njw.me.uk wrote
On Mon 19 May 2014 20:08:36 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
- full name in quotes
- short name in quotes
- the true numeric ID sent by the cell network (the decoded names in
the previous two fields come from a look-up table in the modem fw);
Nope they shouldn't, that LUT-name is a 3rd way to get
connected. So need a very good magnified photo or the
pcb. Anybody can help?
schematics
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/Schematics_Freerunner-GTA02_A5-A7cumulative_public_RC0.pdf
together with component placement
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/schematics/GTA02/lindi
a solution for you.
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On Wed 14 May 2014 01:12:00 mobi phil wrote:
I wanted to see only the surface pcb.
On component placement you see the surface layer of PCB, incl all copper
traces.
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On May 11, 2014, at 4:47 AM, Jake jak...@rommel.stw.uni-erlangen.de
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On 05/11/2014 07:08 AM, joerg Reisenweber wrote:
On Sat 10 May 2014
On Sat 10 May 2014 11:57:30 Pascal Gosselin wrote:
calibrate
the compass via GPS track by an easy calibration or self-calibration
method
GPS doesn't offer any data to calibrate magnetometer from.
magnetometer aka compass is about orientation of device, GPS is about position
and movement
On Sun 13 April 2014 15:26:34 Norayr Chilingarian wrote:
Then they need to filter who uses same Internet services as
me. This case it's much harder to make sure that me is me, right?
Nope, since your internet traffic is a way better richer fingerprint of you
than
the numbers you could call
On Tue 11 March 2014 18:26:07 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 6:15 PM, Dr. Michael Lauer
mic...@vanille-media.de wrote:
Quick update:
I have gathered the old subscribers’ list and
have invited (not autosubscribed) all former
members.
If you are not among
embedded
device that allegedly been crossed now, then I dunno what's your benchmarks
and philosophy at large.
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On Fri 21 February 2014 10:03:47 Bob Ham wrote:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 08:54 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
We ... are working on a 3.14 kernel and getting things mainline
Why? The GTA04 is not usable as a daily phone. Why would you waste
time on the kernel instead of working on
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:17:26 Neal H. Walfield wrote:
And no, you probably can't use a VPN to have only encrypted data
transferred over the air. I don't think there are any free and open VPN
endpoints available.
Using Tor avoids this problem. Check it out:
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:36:59 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
VLR,
SF
Do yourself a favor and ask some of your friends with a more down-to-earth
mindset before you ever again consider posting such mails. When you don't get
it, go and ask your friends, maybe they also can explain to you why I
On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
the kernel controls the power drain.
How has that been determined?
Roughly same way as Pi
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On Fri 21 February 2014 10:54:23 Bob Ham wrote:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
the kernel controls the power drain.
How has that been determined?
Your initial rant sounded much similar to the plot:
blame the architect for not working on the electrics of
On Fri 21 February 2014 11:43:08 David Matthews wrote:
Yes it is, and those who do not believe so should allow those of us that do
value it to enjoy it in peace :-0 - I at least do not need to be told
repeatedly how foolish I am for delighting over something someone else
believes has zero
On Fri 21 February 2014 18:51:37 Andrew Schenck wrote:
its the 900/1800/1900 version, but I haven't found any way to verify
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 12:07 +, Nick wrote:
there. It is a European 900/1800/1900MHz version (I presume - I
bought it 2nd hand - is there an easy way to check?).
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
the kernel controls the power drain.
How has that been
On Fri 21 February 2014 19:22:00 Bob Ham wrote:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 18:15 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 21.02.2014 um 10:54 schrieb Bob Ham:
On Fri, 2014-02-21 at 10:22 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
the kernel controls the power drain.
How has that been
On Thu 20 February 2014 12:05:00 Christoph Pulster wrote:
Hi,
@joerg: sorry we mis-communicate.
No we don't. Or at least I don't. ;-)
I am not talking about tracking
(location of caller),
me neither since that's absolutely trivial
but identification of caller.
me too
If I buy
On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote:
Why do you think the only use for a mobile phone is to make calls? If
I only make a data connection and am careful to tunnel all of my data
via Tor, then this identification method is useful.
Neal
Err, right. For that usecase it
On Thu 20 February 2014 15:27:33 Neal H. Walfield wrote:
and am careful to tunnel all of my data
via Tor
Recent tests have revealed that at least 20 nodes in Tor are trying to break
into your encrypted data transmission.
It'd widely known that Tor is infiltrated by agencies.
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On Thu 20 February 2014 20:38:35 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
was a proprietary
phone no different from anything out of Motorola, Samsung or Apple.
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On Fri 21 February 2014 07:29:28 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Of course it will never happen legally, but so what? We can build it
illegally instead.
You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin.
Let's hope we don't have to read Pied Piper Revisited or learn about some
landslide or somesuch, in a
On Fri 21 February 2014 07:48:02 joerg Reisenweber wrote:
On Fri 21 February 2014 07:29:28 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Of course it will never happen legally, but so what? We can build it
illegally instead.
You are a Pied Piper of Hamelin.
Let's hope we don't have to read Pied
On Wed 19 February 2014 11:26:49 Nick wrote:
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 10:19:12AM +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
According to http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2002/31/section/1 it is
a full (not semi) offence with up to 5 years in prison in the UK.
And even possessing such a
. Of course he wrote a lot strange/non tolerable things in this
list in the past, but concerning technical effords, he was very
insistant and pushed it as far as writing a tool for easy change of IMEI
without having full access to NDA-infos.
@Joerg: changing IMEI...will not improve your privacy
the IMEI, it claimed in
changelogs that it had some really weird formula to add birthday^5 to old IMEI
or sth and append that to the new IMEI, for authentication - and it never
worked afaik.
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On Sat 08 February 2014 01:54:44 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org wrote:
you recall that single line I actually censored?
http://people.openmoko.org/joerg/calypso_moko_FW/all_version__CHANGELOG.txt
line 60, I assume.
Yes, that one.
(Must have been
for network to not work.
no technical but organizational. Usually that IMEI gets an instant ban, and a
fat bold red alarm logline in carrier's network logs.
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On Tue 28 January 2014 18:58:19 Norayr Chilingarian wrote:
01/27/14 10:26 -ում, Michael Spacefalcon-ը գրել է:
In the absolute worst case scenario imaginable, if someone does lose
their RF calibration values and has no backup copy anywhere, you
should be able to send your FR to some lab to
On Mon 27 January 2014 19:26:19 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
Giacomo 'giotti' Mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote:
By the way, I think that your work, with the right notes about being
experimental and so on of course, should also be in the official wiki.
As much as I would love to see it
of a connection on the
fly, so you'd initiate a voice call from landline to mobile and then mobile
switches type to datacall. Can't remember what the according AT-commands been
to accomplish that.
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On Fri 17 January 2014 19:13:24 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Not everybody is weighting the factor of freeable down to the modem
equally when calculating the relative position of two devices to decide
between upgrade and downgrade. You have a
On Thu 16 January 2014 02:58:29 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
Hello Om community,
In the course of hacking TI GSM firmwares, I have come across something
that some of you may find interesting, or might even have some insight
into.
We all know that our good familiar Neo Freerunner (GTA02) was
On Sat 21 December 2013 12:34:49 Ed Kapitein wrote:
On 12/21/2013 11:58 AM, Philip Rhoades wrote:
People,
I have not used my FreeRunner for ages and probably should donate it
someone who can make use of it but a thought occurred to me: It would
be good to have something that could act
* capacity of maybe 20% higher. You will need to
discard 95% scam before you find that one manufacturer.
Maybe useful background can be found in:
http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=65568
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the display
becomes visible - X11 should be able to send an according signal, I think.
This would as well support up-to-date displayed values after closing a
fullscreen app and after unblanking the screen.
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On Fri 13 December 2013 13:25:47 Ben Wong wrote:
Are you using dfu-util or dd to write to the NAND?
dd to write to NAND? :-o Don't do that!
That's prone to fail, since dd can't handle bad blocks, and NAND per
definitionem doesn't. That's why you got things like jffs2/ubifs
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On Tue 10 December 2013 14:42:56 Christoph Bänsch wrote:
I think that fact isn't new. The BIOS on a normal PC is a 'Second OS' too.
There is one big difference: the BIOS is safer than the firmware of an GSM
modem.
The one big difference is: BIOS runs on main CPU, modem is a peripheral and for
On Tue 10 December 2013 21:12:02 Bernard Schelberg wrote:
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Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2013 01:00:13 +0100
Subject: Re: the second operating system
On Mon 09 December 2013
On Mon 09 December 2013 19:32:28 Norayr Chilingarian wrote:
There is an osnews article named The second operating system hiding in
every mobile phone, and I guess some people in this list may be
interested. Not that we didn't know about it, just wanted to share an
article with you.
On Fri 22 November 2013 18:22:40 thomasg wrote:
On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Am 22.11.2013 um 17:21 schrieb Lukas Märdian:
Am 22.11.2013 23:23, schrieb Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller:
Am 22.11.2013 um 15:46 schrieb Pascal Gosselin:
What
On Fri 15 November 2013 01:59:10 Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 1:50 AM, kardan kar...@riseup.net wrote:
The following is more generally related to the GSM subject:
http://www.osnews.com/story/27416/The_second_operating_system_hiding_in_e
very_mobile_phone
I really
just a little reminder, since it might have passed unnoticed by a few (though
I wonder how that could've happened)
check out
http://neo900.org
It's GTA04's sibling
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that. :-/
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On Sun 10 November 2013 11:15:22 Norayr Chilingarian wrote:
I have documented what I have done, and I have a manual draft on my
computer.
If I can get a wiki account, I will add the information there.
A good example why we should keep wiki in moderated mode. All you could
contribute based on
customer base, protecting them from
suggestions to clean their device in dishwasher engine and the like.
BR
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is against
collaborative work, like it is in Wikipedia.
Everyone, by even not having Wikipedia account could go and write
everything he wants. However, as we see, there are more sane people
rather than idiots, and Wikipedia is mostly correct.
I think Joerg was worried about you writing
improves XYZ which agian pulls in new
users tempted to try and believe.
By all means write instructions based on clear facts! We need those.
Sorry if I sounded rude.
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licence for developing FPGA. For 7020 Xilinx tool
chain is for free.
My guesses are, for an actual phone to few processing power, for 3d
acceleration, the FPGA may be too small. But for a geek phone, FPGA gets
you much freedom...
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On Wed 09 October 2013 20:47:01 Fernando Martins wrote:
It is laudable to have more hardware open and it would be nice if
goldelico would release the schematics in source. But I don't see them
has having such obligation neither I see any inconsistence in their
actions or words. Goldelico has
for
ourselves first and foremost :-) I want to *use* my device, once it's built,
and I want to do that for a looong time to come.
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In the last 50 years I've seen only _one_ truly modular concept for electronic
circuits that would basically meet the flexibility requirements you are asking
for:
http://makezine.com/2011/12/08/the-braun-lectron-system-retro-circuit-
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hardly anything you can do about it. I suggest you just check the
particular project's licencing to find out about the details of open just
like you have to do with every arbitrary other open hardware project.
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on a sidenote: Was KDE no open source software when Qt wasn't FOSS (for those
who still remember that time)?
In layout project files they might even be (C) non-free libraries for e.g.
component footprints, which would *forbid* disclosing them to the general
public. Is the hardware less open
On Sat 05 October 2013 21:03:44 Stefan Monnier wrote:
But none of them is building modular devices. I wonder why.
For the same reason they don't make their hardware open, for the same
reason they don't make their software Free, for the same reason they
don't want you to have root access on
placement and technical manual
and datasheets. And on reasonable request GolDeliCo probably will even hand
out layout as a number of pdf files, so you could check whether it's possible
to drill a hole at pos X-Y into PCB. That's it. Be happy or get over it.
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On Thu 03 October 2013 08:56:43 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
I know. But I'm not talking about swapping the actual CPU or the
actual display. I'm talking about swapping the CPU module or the
display module. I.e. create a standardized module interface around
off-the-shelf (i.e.
On Wed 25 September 2013 21:32:13 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
Am 25.09.2013 um 20:45 schrieb Stefan Monnier:
Production problems show almost immediately, even if there is only one
person. And they show after making let's say 20 units. I.e. it does not
need to produce let's say 1000 units
Hi!
just as a short newsflash: we got 258 votes-of-interest and even 30 that are
willing to pay =700EUR for a Neo900 aka GTA04-NeoN board plus housing and
other needed parts.
Follow the hype at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=91142
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On Wed 28 August 2013 10:33:47 Paul Wise wrote:
There is some info about how different Maemo (all versions) is from
Debian in these files:
http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/sources.new
http://dex.alioth.debian.org/census/Maemo/sources.patches
wouldn't need a GTA04-N900 that's
close to the original N900 hw-wise. The idea of GTA04-N900 is to reduce the
hw-diffs to an amount that can get handled in kernel/drivers by patching them.
You probably know that kernel and kernel driver modules are FOSS in maemo.
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On Wed 28 August 2013 00:29:18 NeilBrown wrote:
On Tue, 27 Aug 2013 09:46:12 +1000 NeilBrown ne...@suse.de wrote:
On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 15:31:19 +0200 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
h...@goldelico.com wrote:
Hm. That sounds quite different from the situation about 1 year ago
when you did the
also check video bus. We know on GTA02 the display used iirc 20mA plus for a
black screen.
Oh and for the 1kR termination, just driving high a dataline that runs to an
unpowered chip will eat quite some current via clamp diodes from input pin to
0V-VDD, often even enough to power the chip ;-D
On Mon 26 August 2013 13:17:09 Radek Polak wrote:
On Saturday, August 24, 2013 03:20:10 PM joerg Reisenweber wrote:
On Sat 24 August 2013 14:22:55 Radek Polak wrote:
1/ poor power management
[...]
something. But i always worked in userspace. I barely understand kernel
and i
happens to me sometimes, so I'd really be interested
in a pointer or citation.
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the stuff that happened.
The poll I added on that ^^^ thread on tmo however shows that 7/8 of users are
expecting us to compete with Samsung for the price range. Well, that been
expected. The resulting discussion is maybe helpful nevertheless.
cheers
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convinced Sean and
Wolfgang and others that no commercial competitor will snatch away and copy-
cat our product either.
Bottom line: to claim OM never allowed community contribution and never shared
PCB or project files is pretty incorrect.
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cuts thru the battery in less
than 3 hours when you constantly scan for APs. Clearly a userland issue where
kernel can't do much. Now you can start to blame kernel WLAN driver for not
doing proper powersaving but that won't help establish a decently working
usable OS on N900.
cheers
jOERG
On Sat 24 August 2013 16:12:23 Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller wrote:
A word to Nikolaus: I'm a bit sad that you ignore the fact that openmoko
did share gerbers, PADS project files, BOM, whatever, on request. We
shared everything, sometimes under a NDA when we had to do that way.
Sorry, but I
On Fri 23 August 2013 10:35:38 Bob Ham wrote:
On 2013-08-23 07:26, openm...@pulster.de wrote:
the GTA04 is a ready-to-use OpenSource smartphone.
The GTA04 *is* out of production and no longer for sale.
Says who?
It *could* be
the motherboard in a ready-to-use smartphone but it *isn't*.
could everybody please stop answering without checking and fixing the damn
subject?!
THANKS!
/j
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On Fri 23 August 2013 21:07:14 Michael Spacefalcon wrote:
I would be
very happy to have a really free modem firmware on my GTA02 in the
meantime.
Then maybe you should try talking some sense into Joerg etc - maybe
they'll listen to you more than they are willing to listen to me.
I
On Fri 23 August 2013 22:45:05 Bob Ham wrote:
I can't see anything that people will cause people to make that
decision. This is why I'm wondering what cause *you* see. You said
you're waiting. What do you believe is going to happen? What are you
waiting *for*? What is going to occur that
On Sat 24 August 2013 02:04:45 Adam Bogacki wrote:
I would like to add my vote to the proposal of a totally new non-smart
phone.
[...]
I think there is increasing demand for a secure non-smart phone.
There IS NO secure phone! See any of the dozen other mails in this very thread
about that
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