Re: [Neovento-5.4] angle brackets I have, but apt-get did not.
The angle brackets were already in actually. Try the 123 button. Concerning the apt-get problem, maybe you should try another mirror. I recommend also to use the latest 5.6 image, as it was apt-get upgraded just yesterday. http://opensvn.csie.org/fyp/releases/5/neovento5.6_GTA02.jffs2 gpe-taskmanager is in and on AUX button (press 1sec) Fingertier is in. lxpanels are backgrounded. clare johnstone wrote: Hi, am now starting on version 5.4, a bit late... I have found how to fix the keyboard to do the angle brackets: editing .matchbox/keyboard.xml key fill=true obey-caps='true' default display=f / shifted display=F / mod1display=lt; / and under G I put mod1display=gt; / So obvious when you once see it - being xml. BUT I have struck a problem, I can't do apt-get it says: Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org' Failed to fetch http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/less/less_429-2_armel.deb Temporary failure resolving 'ftp2.de.debian.org' but it is not a resolving problem as ping can get there. debian-gta02:/etc# ping -c2 ftp2.de.debian.org PING ftp2.de.debian.org (195.71.9.196): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 195.71.9.196: icmp_seq=0 ttl=44 time=399.997 ms 64 bytes from 195.71.9.196: icmp_seq=1 ttl=44 time=407.846 ms --- ftp2.de.debian.org ping statistics --- 2 packets transmitted, 2 packets received, 0% packet loss Any thoughts - where do I start on that problem? more another day, thanks clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Neovento-5.4--angle-brackets-I-have%2C-but-apt-get-did-not.-tp2969894p2970692.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
That image is in the repo now. So what actually do you want to know? It's obvious that building a neovento is pretty easy. If something is unclear, ask me. But actually it is only debian on freerunner + apps + configuration, no magic. clare johnstone wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:45 PM, reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: What you do is simple: nano /usr/bin/gprsui strg+w search for 20 change 20 to 25 or more. Ill generate a new image 5.4 with some changes including this soon I think. Yes Please. While you are doing that, would you make some comments showing how we can put it together from Source? I have hopes of writing some documentation for it, and to install such parts of it as are suitable onto my GTA01. If you can't do it all at once, any comments about things we can play with such as the above, are very welcome. Thank you, clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28Neovento%29-gprs-ui-bug-tp2890117p2907830.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host (was: Re: [neovento 5] applications!)
Paul Fertser wrote: Why do you suggest this instead of using the correct method?! Why didn't you suggest the correct method before, though you knew the correct method all the time??? Paul Fertser wrote: The guy obviously got eth1 on host. Every time. He should have used it instead of finding older incorrectly working versions of bootloaders. The reason is simple: since Qi was fixed to properly provide factory-configured MAC address for the usb networking interface, it's detected on the host as it should, every time udev sees that device it'll assign the same static interface to it (in the simplest case it'll be eth1), that's the main improvement actually! Ok, Ill try that. Paul Fertser wrote: I wonder why you neovento guys don't read kernel mailing list, devel mailing list where this was elaborated in details, why you never come to IRC to discuss low-level issues etc. Lack of motivation and time. This is only some hobby, we spend as much time in it as we consider being appropriate. You guys can just ignore the neovento guys. So what's the problem? As long there won't be any usable distributions for my freerunner, I'll make my own. Easy, right? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2889485.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
Paul Fertser wrote: Heh, my remark wasn't meant to be offensive, take it easy ;) The problem is that i feel neovento guys are separating from the developers community by not using our mailing lists and IRC. I've heard you're using some web-forum (is it really true?) i can't imagine you'll get any help from the other devs using such a crappy method. neovento is not such a professional distribution like all the others like SHR, Android, OM and so on. Additionally it is quite new. I started it just about four months ago as a one man fun thing. That it actually turned into something useful for some people is nice. I think you have a completely wrong idea of the whole thing. We have one thread on the fyp forum, that's right. It's just for some communication within that community. I actually don't know what's crappy on that and why we need so much help from the devs? When there were issues I just mailed into the debianonfreerunner mailinglist and got response. Excuse me, but for not wanting to be offensive you are writing some really arrogant crap. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2889594.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
Sean holmes wrote: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. It's not a bug of neovento, it's a bug of the application. When it's python you could change it by yourself maybe. Or you'll find an alternative application which works better and then tell me :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28Neovento%29-gprs-ui-bug-tp2890117p2892762.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: (Neovento) gprs ui bug
What you do is simple: nano /usr/bin/gprsui strg+w search for 20 change 20 to 25 or more. Ill generate a new image 5.4 with some changes including this soon I think. Sean holmes wrote: Sean holmes wrote: neovento 5 has the same bug as last time. The gprs ui has to few spaces to enter you APN sever name. keep up the good work. Paul wrote: Maybe it is too narrow for you, for me it works. I can put internet.tele2.nl in it without a problem. Perhaps if you share how much space you need, that would be a pointer to the developer... Just trying to help Paul My APN is internet2.voicestream.com it's 25 spaces wide, I dont know python yet will learn as soon as i find the time/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/%28Neovento%29-gprs-ui-bug-tp2890117p2898167.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
Works with Qi. You just have to know what's going on and then it's easy. That information should have been distributed a few months ago and that way that everyone gets it who uses Qi. At the fyp forums nobody seemed to know. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2903754.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: USB networking now creates eth1 on host
22. April, that's only 3-4 weeks ago, a bit late. Some people just stopped using Qi because of that months ago and lost interest also, just like me. But finally the message arrives. -.- Nelson Castillo-2 wrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 5:35 PM, reznor schumi_8_2...@gmx.de wrote: Works with Qi. You just have to know what's going on and then it's easy. That information should have been distributed a few months ago and that way that everyone gets it who uses Qi. At the fyp forums nobody seemed to know. Hello. Check this: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2009-April/005384.html Nelson.- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento-5--applications%21-tp2881940p2904213.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [neovento] nand space workaround?
This will be done by my fellow Jensss, I'm curious about when that will happen. ^^ clare johnstone wrote: Good!, thank you. clare - who thinks Neovento the best she has tried, and that was the previous version :) Then it's likely that you will be happy with the recent version. It's much better than the best you tried :) -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-neovento--nand-space-workaround--tp2885226p2887342.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Neovento-5.3] a quick try - lovely
clare johnstone wrote: The things I liked - the console font made more readable - and then it got hidden by a pretty picture - how do I change that so I can read the messages? The black icon for brightness, The screen locker, very neat, After locking it stayed bright but a quick press of POW suspended it (it said that anyway) and a later quick press recovered to usable. The font option is quite new in the debian on freerunner script, I like that too. Actually, when you see the picture, X already started some time ago. Isn't that enough text to read until then? ^^ It's a pity the openmoko-panel-plugin development seems to have stopped. It's a great app. clare johnstone wrote: The keyboard, interesting. This time I was able to change the keyboard by putting a new one at .matchbox/keyboard.xml . Wonderful. and even more wonderful, I replaced it with a copy of the one in the previous version, and it came out shorter. So I was able to make the xterm 24 lines long instead of 13. I have not yet looked at them to see how that sizing is done but it will be obvious I expect. The keyboard resize - please could it be made not quite so hairtrigger in use? and could it come up lower on the screen? because I was finding that to reduce the number of lines needed several tries. Even better please tell me how to set the initial size of the keyboard. (Although I now find I dont really need to do that, with the shorter keyboard the current one fits.) The keyboard was designed to be fingerfriendly, that makes it so huge. The size is actually hard coded, you could change some values in the sources to get a smaller keyboard. I don't know if the sizing is that obvious, it seems to be relate to the space bar somehow indirectly or directly. The keyboard will (may) be improved by some fellow on the fyp boards. clare johnstone wrote: Not quite so good was the Menu item Accessories/keyboard. It got me a keyboard, but I couldn't get rid of it, and pressing AUX which is what I usually do for on and off keyboard looked like it got another one on top of it but both now permanent. - reboot. Yes, that's the reason why there was not such a button before. But I find it useful for kinds of exceptional cases. clare johnstone wrote: The change on the keyboard I really wanted was to replace something, (and there are several possibles) with open and close angle brackets. My first try a failure, the keyboard won't start, even using a 3 character symbol already in use instead of the real anglebracket one. You wanted to change something in the keyboard.xml? That's tricky sometimes. You have to delete everything within the quotes. clare johnstone wrote: The time. Based on previous I have saved localtime file and linked localtime to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Perth. That got me WST time. good. AND it survived reboot. much better - I have been wondering who wanted the time on Lord Howe Island... But on another reboot (and I don't know what was different) I am back on Lord Howe - and it is the problem I had in the previous version, localtime has been overwitten and with it the file /usr/share/zoneinfo/Australia/Perth. I am now keeping a copy of that on /mnt/sdcard for immediate use until the problem is fixed. That's some problem I would not have thought of. I have to get a look at that. clare johnstone wrote: more later, no time now - Thanks very much it is really exciting; thanks for feedback. I really have to get some sleep now. -.- -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Neovento-5.3--a-quick-try---lovely-tp2887340p2887452.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Neovento-5.3] a quick try - lovely
So you mean the window borders are to small for resizing. That's true. I don't know if LXDE will make it into the next release or if it will be Qalee already.^^ But I'll remember that. Of course you can change the themes by yourself. There are already some with thicker borders besides clearlooks. clare johnstone wrote: The keyboard resize - please could it be made not quite so hairtrigger sorry I meant the Xterm resize clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-Neovento-5.3--a-quick-try---lovely-tp2887340p2887466.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
