Re: Going outside - GTA04 website
+1 On Sun, 25 Aug 2013 01:15:34 +0200, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: Great job for your website ! I think, it could be good too to have a different page on GD shop for the wish lists : https://shop.goldelico.com/wiki.php?page=GTA04 The actual page has a lot of informations which can be found in the GTA04 documentation already pointed by the new website proposal. So I want to suggest to point the new website on a similar shop web page, but one without so much informations and with the four wish lists (GTA04, CaseKit, Camera, Battery). The actual informations could be replaced by links on the gta04 wiki to give a better view of the wish lists. I understand that to sell some product it's important to clearly explain what is inside the product, that's why I want to keep actual page for the shop and I suggest to add another one simplified for the wish list. So, with two different page, we can modify actual new web site interested box by having two links : * I want one ! : link to the actual detailed page * Show your interest ! : link to the wish lists page Regards, Adrien PS : on both web page, they'll be the same wish list, the new one will be to just simplify the access to the wish lists. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mqtim not working
Hello. On v55 of openmoko mqtim doen't work for me. It' doesn't start either. The msg is something like the application has been closed due to an error of the app itself Is there a solution? thank you urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fairphone??
Give a look here: http://buy-a-phone-start-a-movement.fairphone.com/fairphone.html what do you think? urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fairphone??
yep; i just wonder how can they keep the cost so low with 1500 preordes and fair working conditions, salary etc... who really checks the working conditions in congo or wherever they produce it? On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:38:05 +0200, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] what do you think? AFAIR It was already posted and discussed here. It is cheaper than GTA04 - they must have invested money to order bigger batch of phones. Specifications looks nice. I still have my working phone, so will not order it. And even if I was looking for some phone, sadly I can't afford it :(. Even my company does not pay for smart phones more than 150-200 euro. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
old input methods on qtmoko 55
Hello I've installed qtmoko v55 some days ago. Later I've tried to get back the old input methods as suggested in an old thread, by putting those .so files in /opt/qtmoko/plugins/inputmethods. The result is a freeze of qtmoko at boot, after getting the clock image on display. it stops there. Now i've deleted the .so files and it works again. Probably the don't work on v55. Anybody can confirm this? Workarounds? tnx urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Help to grow The Independent Mobile Tool Community!
An active membership on mainstream social networks could help, as well as second choices (b...) like identi.ca, plurk and diaspora... This can maybe look naif, but this adds more visibility, especially if the accounts are supported by an attractive website, imho. Just owning a microblogging account where to share the content of the webpages allows a better rank in the search engines and therefore more visitors, but you all know this already. We should use all the ways we can to spread the voice of the community. Another thing is that in my opinion we should have a better management of the resources (especially human resources). Actually we all know that there are just few of the community who are involved in the development, for many different reasons. If we could better coordinate, manage the (sub)project, like qtmoko, shr, firmware dev, news publishing, social networking, etc, we could probably be more efficient and also involved. Probably many of us doesn't have the technical skill to contribute to sw development or build an electronic schema, but maybe are able to run an OFFICIAL account on diaspora or an OFFICIAL blog. I say official because in my opinion we (community) need more referring points, for us and for the new potential users, even at coast of being repetitive; we know that some on internet just use one kind of social network, others hate them and just want to read news on blogs and web portals, and so on. Honestly, I've always seen the lack of a press office here... it's not fault of anybody and surely this task can't be assigned always to the same people... but imho we really need a better publishing system for the community and its news regards urodelo On Wed, 08 May 2013 16:07:26 +0200, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Hi all, today I would like to ask you to help to grow the OpenPhoenux Independent Mobile Tool Community. Why do we need to grow the community? We need many more active members contributing in all aspects of such a project. We need developers, maintainers, testers, people discussing new ideas, writing blogs, writing comments, going to fairs, making presentations, running servers, teaching and convincing others that we are doing something useful. And we need more people interested in our software and hardware or we will remain a side note of history. Finally we can't get new members by waiting for them to come by chance. What is this community about? There has been a long discussion recently about next generation OpenPhoenux devices and I got a lot of valuable inputs indicating that we even need a broader view, so that I now feel that I am able to write down what this community is about. And very important: what makes it different from other human activities! This is important because any new prospective community member will ask you and I hope that my proposals are the right answers to their questions and make them join our community. Most of us have origins in the OpenMoko community. OpenMoko did appear in Nov 2006 as the attempt to provide the first really open Linux portable computer with telephony functions. At that time this idea was very new - it was announced 2 months before the iPhone 1 - and did catch a lot of attention. In the meantime the world has changed a lot. iPhone comes with an Appstore which has revolutionized the way independent software developers work. Google has established Android and the whole smartphone industry has got to speed to provide cheap (and some crap) devices with Android. Facebook has appeared and also tries to get their-selves onto the Home screen of smartphones. Smartphones have developed into tablets and phablets. Combined with the millions of Apps, that are mini-browsers for specific tasks, this is more or less the opposite what the personal computer idea combined with a world wide web of connected computers was. In that model everyone did have control over the data that was published. This means that neither the device hardware nor the software and the services provided by the network are the most important. I.e. we must see all three (HW, SW, Services) as parts of a complete OpenPhoenux system. If we look at what the big players are doing, it can be summarised as: they fight to capture the user. They want to bring back the mainframe concept (logically centralised services + dumb terminals) and use that to provide walled (zoological?) gardens where the user does no longer have any ownership of the data. They can even find out things about us we don't know ourselves (at least we are not aware of). So everything is about incapacitating the users like the Borg does. Apparently half of the world population is happily accepting this, because the devices are cheap, the software is glamourously polished. And the services are apparently useful. And because the neighbour also has it. Like a mouse in an experiment. And we
Re: [QtMoko GTA02] udevd errors on screen after update
Pay attention with updated upgrades because in these days they're moving squeeze to oldstable and wheezy to stable... they're actually working on servers... uro On Fri, 03 May 2013 15:23:45 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Friday, May 03, 2013 01:31:24 PM asteroid wrote: I disable udev and I haven't got udevd running after reboot. So, can we remove udev package completly ? I am not sure if it is removable because of dependencies. And udev is quite nice when you use usbhost, so i think disabling it is better then removing. Regards Radek -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v55 for Freerunner upgraded to wheezy
Thank you uro On Tue, 16 Apr 2013 15:16:50 +0200, Matteo Zaffonato zaff...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you very much Radek! I will try it this evening. Best regards Matteo Il 16/04/2013 14.35, Radek Polak ha scritto: Hi, i have now moved the experimental wheezy based qtmoko v55 to stable. I have also fixed the ubifs image so that it now boots ok (thanks to gena2x). I am not aware of any regressions and now it should be easier to support GTA02 and GTA04 because of same package versions etc... The wheezy images are now here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ the old squeeze images are here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Old/ I will also update the build instructions when i have some more time. BR Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v54 - Some issues on GTA02
I'm experimenting different issues with latest qtmoko for gta02. When I charge it and then untouch the cable, the orange led does never turn off, and the battery icon is shown like it's still charging. More stranfge, when i reboot it, still I experiment the same behaviour, even without trying to charge it. This causes high battery consumption I've update qtmoko with apt. urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v54
What is needed to play html5 videos on gta02? Which packages/codecs etc? tnx uro On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:22:05 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: support for html5 video in browsers -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v54
thank you all! I'm really willing to test the html5 feature By the way, it isn't available for update through apt yet, isn't it? urodelo On Thu, 07 Mar 2013 12:22:05 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i am happy to anounce QtMoko v54 - this time just for Freerunner. I have finally fixed GSM network registration bug so we have now Freerunner release with all the nice things that were only for GTA04 previously. The release tarbal and ubifs images are available here [1], for more info visit our homepage [2] Changes since v48: * ogg content plugin now works (Neil Jerram) * faster videos * swapped colors in videos now really fixed * debian package improvements (Gilles Filippini) * upgrade to qt 4.8.3 * support for html5 video in browsers * enable typing in the To field, when sending an email (Neil Jerram) * avoid QString::arg: Argument missing logs (Neil Jerram) * position is now showing in media player (Neil Jerram) * fixed qwslock log warnings (Neil Jerram) * have libQtScript and libQtDeclarative installed by qbuild (Gilles Filippini) * media player uses accelerometers for rotation * fixed wifi ap to not move around during rescan * qtmoko apt repo keys are installed by default * DISPLAY is no longer set in qpe.env to not confuse pulseaudio (Neil Jerram) * phonon is now built and can be used by applications * phonon has fix for swapped colors * QSplitter class is compiled for better compat with existing apps * rotate helper is now part of accelerometer library * fixed Draft message instead of sender in SMS (Neil Jerram Radek Polak) * fixed status to be uint64 in mail app db * fixed invisible text parts in qterminal * qui utility to show QtMoko message boxes from shell * gps uses gpsd and gpspipe (Neil Jerram) * qx - fix setting of DISPLAY variable (Neil Jerram) * qx - fix Xfbdev invocation (Neil Jerram) * gps satellites should work again * updated mokofaen theme (Joif) I havent tested the release very much, but i hope it is quite ok. I have noticed that audio stops after few seconds in media player, so you have to use qmplayer for now. Maybe this can be solved by installing different gstreamer plugin for mp3 instead of fluendo. If you want to upgrade (also untested), you'll have to configure gpsd after upgrade to make gps working. Edit /etc/default/gpsd and set DEVICES=/dev/ttySAC1 Thanks everyone who helped with this release! Cheers Radek [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ [2] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
ubuntu Touch Developer Preview
For those interested... today ubuntu's Touch Developer Preview images will be released: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-coming-tomorrow-heres-why-you-shouldnt-get-too-excited -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ubuntu Touch Developer Preview
precompiled images are available here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch-preview/quantal/mwc-demo/ for now they are suitable for Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, Nexus 7, Nexus 10 On Thu, 21 Feb 2013 13:03:39 +0100, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: For those interested... today ubuntu's Touch Developer Preview images will be released: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/02/ubuntu-touch-developer-preview-coming-tomorrow-heres-why-you-shouldnt-get-too-excited -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: tizen released
it seems that the first samsung device with such so will be similar to galaxy III under the point of view of the hardware... On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 18:51:34 +0100, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org wrote: On Mon, 18 Feb 2013 23:44:58 +0800 Paul Wise pa...@bonedaddy.net wrote: git repos here: https://review.tizen.org/git/ was it ported on some real devices beside the emulator? Denis. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
tizen released
Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code released https://www.tizen.org/blogs/tsg/2013/tizen-2.0-magnolia-sdk-and-source-code-release -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko calendar
The ics files on the server are in format 1.ics, 2.ics, 8.ics, 27.ics43.ics... and so on. It's egroupware groupdav folder for calendar. urodelo On Sat, 09 Feb 2013 17:25:12 +0100, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: using wget with -r -l 1 you should be able to download the whole folder without going deeper than that. if you have an idea of the format of the files (ie eventname_-mm-dd.ics or such) you could try to create possible combinations with printf and append them to the base url in a loop. tnk, i'll try uro On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:59:06 +0100, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: I think you can modify the wget loop : https://github.com/Trim/qtmoko-ics2qtcal/blob/master/sync4ics2openmoko.sh#L19 to loop on a variable from 1 to any number instead on arguments (you should add option --tries 1 to avoid to be stucked 20 times on a file). It should work, if names are simply number.ics, but it won't be really optimized. Otherwise, I don't really know wget/curl to retrive all files from a server. Maybe you can find an index of files at some address (I don't know if apache have a special address to display index) ? Adrien Le jeudi 07 février 2013 à 12:36 +0100, urodelo a écrit : tnx is it possible to retrieve more ics from remote url/server recursively? For example, on remote server I have http://foobar.foo/1.ics , http://foobar.foo/2.ics, http://foobar.foo/8.ics , http://foobar.foo/43.ics... but I don't have an exactly clue about the name/numer of ics files... the main problem to me seems to retrieve all the ics files stored on the remote server through wget/curl etc, without knowing exactly haow many they are and especially without knowing the name of every single ics file thank you uro On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:11:35 +0100, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: Hello! Le jeudi 07 février 2013 à 11:58 +0100, urodelo a écrit : Hello, what is the executable file for the qtmoko calendar? Is it possible to import/export ics files or do other operations through the terminal? tnx uro I've just updated a small tool to import ics files written in shell/perl by Mossroy : https://github.com/Trim/qtmoko-ics2qtcal (Please note that, it removes all appointements before to import calendars and so there's no synchronisation with calendar server) As you can see, all the data of qtmoko calendar are stored in the database /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite and espcially in the appointements table. So, I think you can easily export data to ics files by creating a qtmoko specific DateTime::Format builder for this database. HTH, Adrien -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qtmoko calendar
Hello, what is the executable file for the qtmoko calendar? Is it possible to import/export ics files or do other operations through the terminal? tnx uro -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko calendar
tnx is it possible to retrieve more ics from remote url/server recursively? For example, on remote server I have http://foobar.foo/1.ics , http://foobar.foo/2.ics, http://foobar.foo/8.ics , http://foobar.foo/43.ics... but I don't have an exactly clue about the name/numer of ics files... the main problem to me seems to retrieve all the ics files stored on the remote server through wget/curl etc, without knowing exactly haow many they are and especially without knowing the name of every single ics file thank you uro On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:11:35 +0100, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: Hello! Le jeudi 07 février 2013 à 11:58 +0100, urodelo a écrit : Hello, what is the executable file for the qtmoko calendar? Is it possible to import/export ics files or do other operations through the terminal? tnx uro I've just updated a small tool to import ics files written in shell/perl by Mossroy : https://github.com/Trim/qtmoko-ics2qtcal (Please note that, it removes all appointements before to import calendars and so there's no synchronisation with calendar server) As you can see, all the data of qtmoko calendar are stored in the database /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite and espcially in the appointements table. So, I think you can easily export data to ics files by creating a qtmoko specific DateTime::Format builder for this database. HTH, Adrien -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko calendar
tnk, i'll try uro On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:59:06 +0100, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: I think you can modify the wget loop : https://github.com/Trim/qtmoko-ics2qtcal/blob/master/sync4ics2openmoko.sh#L19 to loop on a variable from 1 to any number instead on arguments (you should add option --tries 1 to avoid to be stucked 20 times on a file). It should work, if names are simply number.ics, but it won't be really optimized. Otherwise, I don't really know wget/curl to retrive all files from a server. Maybe you can find an index of files at some address (I don't know if apache have a special address to display index) ? Adrien Le jeudi 07 février 2013 à 12:36 +0100, urodelo a écrit : tnx is it possible to retrieve more ics from remote url/server recursively? For example, on remote server I have http://foobar.foo/1.ics , http://foobar.foo/2.ics, http://foobar.foo/8.ics , http://foobar.foo/43.ics... but I don't have an exactly clue about the name/numer of ics files... the main problem to me seems to retrieve all the ics files stored on the remote server through wget/curl etc, without knowing exactly haow many they are and especially without knowing the name of every single ics file thank you uro On Thu, 07 Feb 2013 12:11:35 +0100, Adrien Dorsaz adr...@adorsaz.ch wrote: Hello! Le jeudi 07 février 2013 à 11:58 +0100, urodelo a écrit : Hello, what is the executable file for the qtmoko calendar? Is it possible to import/export ics files or do other operations through the terminal? tnx uro I've just updated a small tool to import ics files written in shell/perl by Mossroy : https://github.com/Trim/qtmoko-ics2qtcal (Please note that, it removes all appointements before to import calendars and so there's no synchronisation with calendar server) As you can see, all the data of qtmoko calendar are stored in the database /home/root/Applications/Qtopia/qtopia_db.sqlite and espcially in the appointements table. So, I think you can easily export data to ics files by creating a qtmoko specific DateTime::Format builder for this database. HTH, Adrien -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
right On Thu, 01 Nov 2012 13:25:00 +0100, Christoph Pulster openm...@pulster.de wrote: They are right that the price is high. There is no price tag too high for FREEDOM. May Apple/Androids fuck their fanboys with any backdoor implemented. Christoph -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
Yes, basically they compare the features and price of gta04 with those of the most common devices (iphoneZ,,, samsung galaxy...). They also complain that some of the hw is obsolete or absent (camera); also that the os shipped (debian) doesn't actually allow to make/get calls. Ok, everybody knows a lower price could push more users to buy it, but that's like reinventing the wheel. What surprises me a bit is that too often reviewers are comparing a mass product with something which is not. They are different objects, like comparing a bicycle and a motorcycle. It is not clear in the mainstream view that gta04 has been created following different criteria from the mass production. It is not a device suitable for everybody; if we (community, producers etc) wanted a mass product, then it would have been made following the mass market rules (working conditions etc) Reading such kind of reviews disappoint me. u. On Tue, 30 Oct 2012 18:13:20 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: Am 30.10.2012 um 17:48 schrieb urodelo: ...hard hitting the gta04 It's in Italian language http://www.mobilejournal.net/produttori/openphoenux-2804-lo-smartphone-opensource-vale-749-euro-11911 Tnx for the link! I have used Google translation and hope that I did understand it correctly... Well, they argue a little like that e.g. a Ferrari isn't worth its price if you take the value of the metal, leather and other components. And it has not its value because there are cheaper cars which give you more comfortable driving and space for your family... They are right that the price is high. They simply forget production cost for small batches and compare to the price of mass production under unknown working conditions in unknown production sites. This is similar to what drives the Ferrari to its high cost. AFAIK, they are hand made. The key problem is getting down the price. And the only way is to get to bigger production batches. We can moan about that (like this article) or do something... Nikolaus -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
openphoenux review on mobilejournal.net
...hard hitting the gta04 It's in Italian language http://www.mobilejournal.net/produttori/openphoenux-2804-lo-smartphone-opensource-vale-749-euro-11911 urodelo -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: New Phoronix article on Gta04
Mine: It doesn't cost you a kidney like others do! You can hold it the left or the right hand without losing the connection Never heard about its battery exploding Don't need to spend you r life money into a patent war :[] urodelo On Wed, 04 Jul 2012 05:06:30 +0200, Alishams Hassam alishams.has...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTEzMjI If you missed it. Sadly he doesn't make much constructive criticism; he bashes the specs but it's not as if much can be done about that now. He does mention some good things such as where it is manufactured, being able to run debian/shr/qtmoko... and in his defense, I can't think of too many more good points. Maybe we can put up a 'feature list' of good points that reporters like him can use when writing articles on the GTA04. Please add them to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04#Good_reasons_to_purchase_a_GTA04 or reply to this thread and I will add them to the page at the end of the week. To get the ball rolling I have: * Run qtmoko, SHR, Debian fully supported * Made in Germany under proper working conditions. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v45
if i remember well, you just need to create that folder and than fix apt-get -f urodelo On Fri, 15 Jun 2012 12:31:13 +0200, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Hi There is a problem with this image When you try to apt-get update and install any package with apt, You get the following error: Setting up linux-image-2.6.34-qtmoko-gta02 (45-1) ... WARNING: Couldn't open directory /lib/modules/2.6.34-qtmoko: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /lib/modules/2.6.34-qtmoko/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.34-qtmoko-gta02 (--configure): subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 It seems kernel package is not completely installed... Thanks for your valuable work! On Miércoles, 13 de junio de 2012 00:40:27 Radek Polak escribió: Hi, QtMoko v45 is out now. You can get images for GTA02 (Freerunner) here[1] and GTA04 (Phoenux) here[2]. For more info about QtMoko please visit our homepage [3]. This is list of changes since previous v44 version: * fixed wifi password not saving problem * new big transparent keyboard * GTA04 has new 3.4 kernel thanks to Neil Brown * GTA04 has now vibra motor support * show atmospheric pressure on home screen on GTA04 (Neil Jerram) * removed all other input methods from build * display wifi icon in title bar * run ping on default DNS when wifi icon is clicked * gps icon in title bar with number of satellites and fix indicator * gps has now api for number of satellites * gps plugin for GTA04 now makes gps always enabled * GTA04 charge indicator is polling battery every 30s * GTA02 gps - checking for ntpserver available with ping (Jiri Pinkava) * qterminal can now run scripts using setDocument() api method * scripts for powering on/off modem on GTA04A04 * charging udev rules for GTA04 (Neil Brown) * options to boot from all mmc partitions in shutdown ui * build fixes and various code improvements (Yann Dirson) * added new freecell game Probably most noticeable is new keyboard. It has two layouts - one suitable for terminal and one for SMS. They look like this: http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/screenshots/abc.png http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/screenshots/qwerty.png Layouts are completely customizable. You can easily change key size, position, background. It's very easy to add international characters and new layouts. Just have a look at /opt/qtmoko/etc/im/svgkbd/ The layouts are normal svg images. You can use inkscape to open and edit them. It should be very clear what to do. Only thing to explain is how you should name the key XML elements. In Inkscape go to Edit-XML editor and click on key. The element name must be in form: key_QtKeycode_unicode For possible QtKeycode values check this link[4] and for unicode values use your favourite unicode character map. Please not that my layouts are just very simple. If you manage to create better ones i will be glad to replace them. I can also make your national keyboards variants easily installable from qtmoko apps page. As for the other changes - you can now make clickable elements in themes that launch scripts in qterminal. So e.g. you can have icon on homescreen with your favourite script. For example how to do it check what happens when you click the new wifi icon in finxi theme (search for setDocument string here [5]). Another nice thing is atmospheric pressure indicator on GTA04 homescreen or number of gps sattelites/fix indicator on title bar. One more is freecell game - you can now waste a lot of time here :) GTA04 owners can now enjoy latest 3.4 kernel thanks to Neil Brown's amazing kernel work. I have been running this kernel for several days and all works perfectly. No regressions were spotted. Many thanks for this Neil. Thanks also everyone for their support and work. Enjoy the release! Radek [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA02/ [2] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/GTA04/ [3] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ [4] http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-4.8/qt.html#Key-enum [5] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/etc/themes/finxi/title.xml ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Phone wakes up after being powered off
My phone has always suffered for this weird bug too. No matter which distro I use, if I turn it off, even by taking away the battery and after some minutes putting it back, after some minutes the haunted fr goes back to life. This is especially a botehr when you have an alarm set on qtmoko and didn't use it when the alarm should ring: it rings once the os is up and running; it's a bother when you turn off the pphone and go to sleep and then it wakes up and begin to ring for the old alarm Sorry, I didn't find any solution. You can check old msg on this ml, others (included me) have reported this issue. urodelo On Mon, 21 May 2012 11:20:03 +0200, alonivtsan alonivt...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-05-21 at 09:08 +0200, e...@kapitein.org wrote: Hi Alon, Are you sure the phone is completly shutdown e.g. did you issue init 0 from a console or ssh session? I'm currious if the phone could wake from init 0. You can try to clear the RealTimeClock by using the rtcwake command, if that is available on your phone. Kind regards, Ed Hello Ed, The phone was definitely off. After switching it off I verified by booting into u-boot via power and AUX buttons and selecting power off. Are the wake up settings cleared by removing the battery (e.g. for 10 minutes)? I'll test switching off the phone via the init 0 command from a terminal. rtcwake is available (in QtMoko v26) - is there a specific command I should use to prevent the phone from turning on when shut down? Thanks, Alon. -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Server upgrades / docs and svn are back
+1 On Sat, 19 May 2012 11:19:08 +0200, Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: thanks Harald for that work, and the work you have continued to do on those servers -- 不要催我!你曾經問過梵谷畫很快嗎? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?
Froyo, built by Ran on sedar-dere repository. Those are the newest froyo images available. urodelo On Thu, 10 May 2012 23:32:29 +0200, THomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: On 08/05/2012 09:45, urodelo wrote: I always use dfutils for flashing android on nand urodelo I'm a bit out-of-subject, but which images are you using ? thx Thomas -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?
1)What you have quoted was the answer for Thomas; the official froyo builds are outdated a bit, those made by Ran are available on another repo (sedar-dare) 2)For what I know, dfutils is the only way to flash android on fr, doesn't matter which version, therefore I assume every android on freerunner user is using dfutils for flashing nand urodelo On Fri, 11 May 2012 11:21:43 +0200, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: Dnia 2012-05-11, pią o godzinie 09:22 +0200, urodelo pisze: Froyo, built by Ran on sedar-dere repository. Those are the newest froyo images available. [cut] I am not sure what do you mean. Do you want to say that all Froyo users are using dfu-util to flash their devices? -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [dfu-util] who use it for flashing FR?
I always use dfutils for flashing android on nand urodelo On Mon, 07 May 2012 17:15:05 +0200, Jiří Pinkava j...@seznam.cz wrote: I'm using dfu-utils time to time. I have stable version of QtMoko on flash and testing on MMC card. Dne 7.5.2012 14:58, Patryk Benderz napsal(a): Hi all, regarding recent discussion on de...@lists.openmoko.org [1] I am asking, how many of you are still using dfu-util for flashing your FR's internal memory? I also would like to inform you about new dfu-util release.[2] [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2012-May/007245.html [2] http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/devel/2012-April/007243.html -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qtmoko - previous versions?
Hi. I've tried with that new one, but it's not working for me. The behavior is the same as before, I can see the available networks but can't connect to my wpa2 regards urodelo On Sun, 06 May 2012 10:50:58 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Sunday 06 May 2012 05:39:26 Tiago B. Vaz wrote: Be aware that radek couldn't test too much this last one and any report will help him to fix regressions. I really like the new wifi scanner interface in v44. It's just a small issue with the conf file that should be fixed to have it done. Other problems that I've noticed have to do with the new kernel, which hopefully will be fixed soon. So, I'm not discouraging people to try v44! Hi, this problem with secure networks is now fixed. You can try this [1] liblan.so before the release is done. I have quite a lot of improvements already done but much more are still on my todo, so it might take some time before v45 is done. Regards Radek [1] http://activationrecord.net/radekp/pub/liblan.so -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
Hi, you can find updated (but experimental) builds for both nand and sd here: http://serdar-dere.net/~ran/ They aren't 100% stable but so far I use it as my daily system with qtmoko urodelo On Fri, 04 May 2012 00:36:22 +0200, THomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: On 03/05/2012 22:47, dmatthews.org wrote: Hi Thomas I was looking back for the Serdar Dere's android installers. It was great, and I'm sad the site is empty now. Indeed yes Does anyone has any backup of those images/files ? I have android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20110312.tar.gz and android-on-freerunner-cupcake-sd-daily-20110312.tar.gz Both work well, but eat battery even by freerunner standards; the sd card version is best if you want to customize things. I could stick either or both on a server temporarily if you like. Ho yeah I'll be really happy ! I have a Moko with (I think) a 'hole' in the NAND, and Android on Sd is the best solution ... Let me know where you put them or if you want an account somewhere to drop it. Thanks alot by advance Thomas -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WiFi issue in Qtmoko v44 for Freerunner
Hello. Wifi isn't working on my fr v44 too, same situation, closed wifi where before I could connect to. urodelo On Sat, 21 Apr 2012 05:16:23 +0200, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ti...@debian.org wrote: Hi Radek, Freerunners, It's not possible to connect to closed wireless networks in v44 because it seems to reset the encription settings every time it tries to authenticate. Anyone having the same issue out there? Any fix around? :) thanks, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz http://tiagovaz.org 0xA504FECA - http://pgp.mit.edu -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ot] yet another os
Hello, has anybody heard about this: http://www.slashgear.com/ubuntu-phone-os-being-developed-1680/ Is it true (on solid bases) or just a rumor? urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[semi-OT] the tricorder
Does anybody know it? Something more than a gadget for star trek fans: http://www.tricorderproject.org/index.html another little (just in dimension) open source project -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] new webos components released
From: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2012/03/sams-blog-a-community-release/ Some new components of webos have (are going to) been released under the so called Community edition. It is a kind of legacy code for old devices, not strictly related to the new open source edition urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] released code of isis
The code of Isis, the web browser of webos has been released: http://developer.palm.com/blog/2012/02/sams-blog-february-releases-for-open-webos/ -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
gta04 on italian online magazine
Here's the link: http://punto-informatico.it/3437448/PI/News/ritorno-openmoko.aspx?o=0amp;ct=0amp;c=1#p3438123 -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[semi-OT] the open tablet
It seems that somebody from KDE has created an open, hackable tablet with Linux and Plasma Active: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2012/01/reveal.html http://hothardware.com/News/Details-Emerge-About-the-Spark-LinuxBased-Tablet/ it looks nice... urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [semi-OT] the open tablet
Sorry, I didn't see it :-P On Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:21:51 +0100, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] It was already posted here: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2012-January/066282.html -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA04 in the Press at Linuxfordevices
Well done! urodelo On Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:00:18 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: http://www.linuxfordevices.com/c/a/News/Golden-Delicious-Openmoko-GTA04/ -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OT] HP contributes webOS software to the open source community
Here's HP's full schedule for open-sourcing webOS: January: Enyo 2.0 and Enyo source code; Apache License, Version 2.0 February: Intended project governance model; QT WebKit extensions; JavaScript core; UI Enyo widgets March: Linux standard kernel; Graphics extensions EGL; LevelDB; USB extensions April: Ares 2.0; Enyo 2.1; Node services July: System manager (“Luna”); System manager bus; Core applications; Enyo 2.2 August: Build release model; Open webOS Beta September: Open webOS 1.0 (source: http://news.yahoo.com/hps-plan-open-source-webos-whats-taking-long-213125225.html) urodelo On Mon, 12 Dec 2011 19:17:31 +0100, Poul Kristensen bcc5...@gmail.com wrote: In my point of view it is about time HP is contributing to the opensource community. For several years and still do they have only supported M$ especially in their datacenters. HP even call you be phone asking you to migrate from open source to another platform (read M$). Believe me I have been called! HP uses a lot of opensource in their apps. especially Postgresql, so it's about time!! Poul *Nix Sysadm. 2011/12/12 Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org: For me SHR or QTMoko should takes the card metaphor idea. It is really THE thing for me + the gesture handling, and both can be taken. I personally would love to be able to adapt these in Enlightenment. It's already done in elfe but requires a 24 or 32bit framebuffer. *)enable elfe and disable illume-home *)enable compositing *)bind the key for switching to the card mode *)press that key Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results
froyo can't be considered stable (at least as a stable release of a linux distro). However, I use the nand version as my daily phone, knowing some troubles can occur, but without too many problems. Speed for froyo is not its strong point, but it is acceptable if you don't ask to play Call of Duty... Developers are working hard on it and are getting big improvements, but don't ask (for the moment) to get something like a froyo on a samsung galaxy! If you prefer a faster system, try cupcake. urodelo On Thu, 29 Dec 2011 22:21:49 +0100, Alishams Hassam alishams.has...@gmail.com wrote: A status update to the community list every now and then would actually be really awesome and go a long way into reminding me to try it. Even just a few months ago, the latest version of Froyo was really slow and crashed more than was acceptable. On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 4:50 AM, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.comwrote: Why is AoF is not even mentioned in the distro list is a mystery to me. Believe we should pollute this list more often with pure AoF related topics to keep reminding people it also exists ;-) Niels -- Microsoft gives you windows, Linux gives you the whole house. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Marketing] Ideas / Plan
Marketing strategies can also be planned for two different targets: 1st: developers, skilled users, hackers, geeks, etc, etc. In this phase marketing is mean to publish, inform and possible sale the product to those interested in the above activities 2nd: once the product will be stable enough and usable for an average iphone user, then a marketing strategy could be planned to reach the big market. In my opinion, without the first, it would be much more difficult for our community to compete (ok, I know this is such a big word..) with mainstream products. IF the intention is really to get a phone comparable with other well known products, there's the need of something stable and usable, and this can be reached only with the mass help of developers testers, etc. But if they don't know about it... Mybe talking properly about marketing for the first phase isn't strongly right, however the meaning is to spread the voice, inform, publish to that target which could be interested at the beginning. Therefore I agree with Hassam when he talks about marketing strategies. I just wanted to point out something. imho, urodelo On Fri, 30 Dec 2011 15:09:10 +0100, Martix martix...@gmail.com wrote: +1 We need to offer complete working smartphone before doing massive marketing to public. #1 mistake of Openmoko Inc. was unstable software stack, switching toolkits (GTK+, Qt, EFL) and hardware bugs. I think, we should provide stable and tested development platform (stable distribution, SDK and nice documentation), then write on various MLs and attract mobile developers, come up with some fancy product name (GTA04 is just codename) and then start broader marketing on various news websites. Best Regards, Martix Dne 30.12.2011 14:43, Fernando napsal(a): Hi, I have a GTA02 which I am using only for NeronGPS. I need a mobile for a few calls and SMS a month. Some months ago it did not receive an SMS and I have no idea why. I bought a 20EUR Samsung phone, put the chip in, and got the SMS. So, why should I be excited to buy a GTA04 for the price tag of a full android? I don't even know if I will be able to reliably receive the occasional SMS? Just a question, no ranting. BTW, I don't think it makes much sense to invest in marketing without a full product. It seems a too expensive proposition for a small market of GTA02 and without high confidence of still getting a reliable phone. Regards, Fernando On Dec 30, 2011 06:39 Alishams Hassam alishams.has...@gmail.com mailto:alishams.has...@gmail.com wrote: Hello All, Firstly note that I am not a marketing expert by any means. I only wish to throw ideas out there and implement what I have time for. If there are any marketing experts on the list (heck, if you're even just interested), please speak up! The only experience you really need is the ability to write in your native language. I'm only familiar with English sources but anything will work. Let's coordinate efforts on the wiki, I'm sure Openmoko won't mind us piggybacking off their wiki ;p http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Marketing_GTA04 Things to mention: 1. The GTA04 *requires* an FR / NEO1974. This should serve as a request to get people who have these collecting dust, selling them online. Maybe this should be made more explicit? 2. The GTA04 has vastly improved on every area of the FR. 3. The GTA04 is made in a proper factory in the EU, and of quality parts, in small runs - hence the price tag. This will appeal to those of us who want things done right, not cheap. 4. Though there are non-free chunks, harm has been reduced as much as possible. Talking about how the wifi firmware has been isolated so it cannot interfere with the O/S is a great example. Areas to Attack: 1. Online and print magazines, news websites: We need to get the word out about the GTA04. I find myself agreeing with the claim that he GTA04 isn't well known about. This appeared on Slashdot early this month http://mobile.slashdot.org/story/11/12/01/1910213/openmokos-freerunner-rises-from-the-ashes No mention of a pre-order. There was an article in late July on the Salon blog: http://blog.slyon.de/2011/07/26/openmoko-gta04-is-getting-reality/ http://blog.slyon.de/2011/07/26/openmoko-gta04-is-getting-reality/%20Phornix http://www.phoronix.com/ also did an article http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=MTAzNDE on Openmoko just a few days ago, but only one line about the GTA04 : People are not excited, so let's make some noise! There are many other tech news sites out there. Ars Technica http://arstechnica.com/comes to mind, Lifehacker http://lifehacker.com/ and Make http://makezine.com/ would get a kick out of the board switching procedure, Wired is an older popular magazine, Phoronix http://www.phoronix.com/ I'm sure will do one focused on the GTA04 and 2600 http://www.2600.com/for the geeks who like print (someone please write a cool article for those guys - I promise you they'll publish it)! Jeez
Re: Openmoko Community Survey 2011 – Results
On Wed, 28 Dec 2011 14:05:38 +0100, Lukas Märdian lukasmaerd...@googlemail.com wrote: On 28.12.2011 13:21, fdvj...@vodafone.it wrote: These data are certainly useful but I think that 73 people is a small sample to extrapolate accurate infos about the opinions of the community. Maybe I'm wrong but the poll was not so visible to the community. Firstly I didn't notice it, but perhaps other people like me were busy with their jobs or were out for holydays and they also didn't notice the poll. For the next polls I suggest to extend the period to at least two weeks and to send frequent reminders in the MLs. Maybe consider to extend this poll for another week and advertise about it. Regards Joif Yes, you're probably right. The poll didn't even have a top level post on the mailinglists. I reopend this poll and started the 2nd round, which is announced as top level post on serveral mailinglists. I hope we can catch some more votes this way. The final results will be released in about one more week. BR, Lukas Please consider that many users may be away or busy for holiday... maybe you could extend the poll at least to the second week of January or more. IMHO. urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v37 for GTA02
For me it would be great to have the choice to select from a menu the folder where to look for the desired file in all the main application included in qtmoko, while actually they just look inside a default folder instead: eyepiece, media player, qdictopia, pictures, etc... urodelo On Sun, 11 Dec 2011 17:51:03 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, after a small delay i am happy to announce QtMoko v37 also for Freerunner. I have just rebuild the debian package for this release. You can find it here [1], but apt-get update apt-get upgrade from v35 should work too. I have not tested the release at all, because my Freerunner is currently disassembled and is waiting for new case, so please take when upgrading to v37. Here is list of changes since v36: * doc - fixed toolchain instructions (Rafael Ignacio Zurita) * finger friendly patches for contacts, shutdown, call history, qtmail (Rafael Ignacio Zurita) * added security.debian.org to sources.list (pabs3) * using geomirros for in sources.list (pabs3) * new input biglangscape input method (Rafael Ignacio Zurita) * autorotation script (Rafael Ignacio Zurita) * qx can now launch Qt-X11 apps like fbreader (LD_LIBRARY_PATH problem) * qx can delete X11 lock files (useful if X crashed) * delete qtopia temp dir on start (local sockets work after unclean restart) * fixed singal status polling for AT modems * option to disable signal polling for AT modems * dont poll battery immediately on AT modems * option to disable AT+CCED on AT modem * option to decode operator name for AT modem plugins * support for Exec argument .desktop files Besides this i have figured out, how to quite easily rebuild regular Qt apps for QtMoko so that you dont have to use qbuild. You can look forward very soon for FBReader port (just finishing the .deb package), i hope i can do the same with navit. Any other ideas for cool qt apps that you would like on QtMoko? Regards Radek [1] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/debian/qtmoko_37-1_armel.deb -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: WebOS for GTA04?
A starting point can be: https://developer.palm.com/content/resources/development_resources.html For what I've red til now, they (HP) should also release the application framework ENYO under open source license. Til now, I couldn't find any news about its license, probably we still need to wait some time. Imho, I expect HP to keep a quite strong control over it, they will keep their patents and go on with their own developers working on webos. In other words a complete open project wouldn't be worth for them, but I really hope it'll be open enough to let us (you :-) work on it. I'm expecting coding will be under the strict control of HP, inside the community of developers. Actually they are talking about porting it on other devices, which is at least a first good step, meaning they wont put limitation on which kind of devices However, all this are more speculations than facts... Wait some time and see what's coming next... urodelo On Fri, 16 Dec 2011 08:39:33 +0100, Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller h...@goldelico.com wrote: After HP announced to open source WebOS I wonder what we need to get it onto a GTA04 device? And is there already a clear picture how completely the source will be opened? Under which licence? And which limitations? Which timeframe? Questions over questions... Let's discuss answers... Nikolaus -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OT] HP contributes webOS software to the open source community
On the last Friday HP has announced that webOS will be released to the open source community: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/HP-Contribute-webOS-Open-iw-1537835314.html;_ylt=Aod5jrA9WGrJyILWp79jGsg6cOF_;_ylu=X3oDMTFqaWd2Ymg3BG1pdANBcnRpY2xlIEJvZHkEcG9zAzIEc2VjA01lZGlhQXJ0aWNsZUJvZHlBc3NlbWJseQ--;_ylg=X3oDMTM2M2lscnYwBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDOTQ2YzY1NzktMTcxMC0zNTczLWE3Y2MtM2UzODEzZDY5NzE4BHBzdGNhdAN0ZWNofHdpcmVsZXNzBHB0A3N0b3J5cGFnZQR0ZXN0Aw--;_ylv=3?x=0 http://developer.palm.com/blog/2011/12/open-source/ At the moment, for what I know, it's not clear under which license the code will be released. It seems to me that it was the only way to let webOS survive to the doubtful management of HP. However, I wonder if they can just give it away getting almost nothing in exchange, considering their expensive of 1,2 billions $ for buying it from Palm (one of the worst business ever in the IT. for HP, of course). What makes my thinking right now, are sentences like will be going open source with the resources of HP behind it... In other words, HP will keep the control of the development. Do they think they can still get anything ($$) from webOS? If not, why they didn't let everything in the hands of the community? I've never used webos devices, just red articles about Palm devs, comments, etc, but I believe that an open source webos could have a positive impact on openmoko community too. What do you think? urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: FreeRunner screen/case improvements (was: Shiftd)
What about NOVA display then (LG Optimus Black)? They have reported, it uses 40% energy less than Amoled display. urodelo On Sat, 11 Jun 2011 15:47:25 +0200, Daniel Smetana 542@gmail.com wrote: If we can get Super AMOLED display, it would be great. On my Samsung Galaxy S it looks really great. And it looks good in daylight, too. Sorry for my English 2011/6/11 Al Johnson openm...@mazikeen.demon.co.uk On Friday 10 June 2011, Martix wrote: Speaking about screen I prefer AMOLED displays. Advantages: higher contrast on sunshine and generally less power consumption than backlit LCD, especially with GUI based on theme with white or colored text and icons on black background. AMOLED with red GUI on black background is also great for preservation of night vision, great for astronomers etc. Also price is low. I'd love a daylight readable screen, but in my experience AMOLED can't do it either. I haven't compared side by side though. I guess TFT is cheaper than AMOLED too, or ZTE wouldn't have switched screens for the later Blades. It's a pity PixelQi don't make small screens. Mirasol is getting interesting too now they've got an embedded frontlighting option. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qt5 and nokia
Maybe you already know this, but for some who have missed the news, here is a short article about the future of qt5 which somebody will maybe find of some interest: http://www.osnews.com/story/24713/Nokia_Announces_Qt_5_Plans regards, urodeo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QtMoko] Dictopia Qgcide
If I remember well the dictionaries should be under Application/Dictionary. However, some time ago I've reported that qdictopia doesn't recursively look inside subfolders. I think this isn't fixed yet. i'm using the same kind of dictionaries which are working well on shr. urodelo On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:17:45 +0200, giacomo 'giotti' mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote: Hello, I recently installed Dictopia Qgcide on QtMoko v35. About Qgcide: I let it download the dictionary (/media/card/.qgcide/gcide-entries.xml.gz) but it turn out that I've not enough space on the partition. Moreover that is a vfat partition and so I can't make symbolic links in it. Is there a way to set a different location for the dictionary? About Dictopia: I've some star-dict dictionary in my uSD-data-partition, but I don't know how to instruct Dictopia about where they can be found. Is there any configuration file I can edit? Thanks Giacomo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko v35] mqtIM
Thank you! On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:23:59 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: On Saturday 16 April 2011 13:46:13 urodelo wrote: Hello, I can't find mqutIM among the downloadable applications for qtmoko. Is it stored somewhere or still need to be compiled for the new qtmoko 35? It should be available now. I am unable to compile if from sources, so i am now using binary files from old qpk package. Regards Radek -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko v35] Messaging DB Invalid
Hi. You have to install the applications from http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/apps/ Go there with qtmoko's browser, click on the selected application to download and install it. Another similar way is to go on Applications menu, select more apps and this will drive you to that website for installing your application. urodelo On Mon, 18 Apr 2011 13:49:41 +0200, Bernard Schelberg b.schelb...@gmail.com wrote: Ok, never mind - I tried again, and this time it worked... maybe I didn't unmount it properly the first time... Now my other question - what has happened to Google Contact Sync (gqsync?)? I don't seem to be able to install it with apt-get. Is it in a different repository? Thanks, Bernie -- Forwarded message -- From: Bernard Schelberg b.schelb...@gmail.com To: community@lists.openmoko.org Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:02:31 +1000 Subject: [qtmoko v35] Messaging DB Invalid Thanks again Radek for your work in keeping the Freerunner dream alive. Sorry to keep bothering you, but the upgrade process never seems so straightforward for me :( This time, a completely clean install - formatted the partition on my SD card using ext3, downloaded the .tar.gz from Sourceforge and extracted it onto the card. When I boot, I get a message box saying 'Messaging DB Invalid' and 'Messaging cannot operate due to database incompatibility'. I'm not sure where the database should be - I found one post suggesting it was in ~/.qmf, but I don't have that file or directory on my system. I don't know whether it's related, but I also get a message on bootup, just before it switches into graphics mode saying something like 'No more processes at this runlevel'. Any suggestions for fixing messaging on my phone? Thanks, Bernie -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko v35] mqtIM
Hello, I can't find mqutIM among the downloadable applications for qtmoko. Is it stored somewhere or still need to be compiled for the new qtmoko 35? Thanks urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] application menu
Hi. How can I delete entries from the application menu? I have some entries of old applications which I don't have anymore and would like to delete. I've tried by keeping pressed on the entry but I only get the choice of adding it to favorites... thanks urodelo -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35- status of qtmoko.meurisse.org
Helo. When I run apt-get update, I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://qtmoko.meurisse.org/Release Unable to find expected entry Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. in my sources.list I've written: deb http://qtmoko.meurisse.org / Thanks urodelo On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:06:13 +0200, Vincent Meurisse openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org wrote: Thanks a lot. A question: some time ago I had upated my installation through the deb package on http://qtmoko.meurisse.org. The version there is still v31. Hello, I finally found time to update the packages on qtmoko.meurisse.org. I was unfortunately unable to test them completely. Please report any bug. Warning: if you installed to nand, DO NOT TRY TO UPDATE The filesystem change from jffs2 to ubifs would make your phone unbootable. Regards -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35- status of qtmoko.meurisse.org
Uhm, ok now it's working don't know what's wrong before... sorry for bothering I'm upgrading now On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:18:56 +0200, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Helo. When I run apt-get update, I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://qtmoko.meurisse.org/Release Unable to find expected entry Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. in my sources.list I've written: deb http://qtmoko.meurisse.org / Thanks urodelo On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:06:13 +0200, Vincent Meurisse openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org wrote: Thanks a lot. A question: some time ago I had upated my installation through the deb package on http://qtmoko.meurisse.org. The version there is still v31. Hello, I finally found time to update the packages on qtmoko.meurisse.org. I was unfortunately unable to test them completely. Please report any bug. Warning: if you installed to nand, DO NOT TRY TO UPDATE The filesystem change from jffs2 to ubifs would make your phone unbootable. Regards -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35- status of qtmoko.meurisse.org
Just finished, rebooted, but qtmoko doesn't start. It has stopped at login. I've got several modules errors, included one for usb device which doesn't allow me to connect through ush with ssh anymore. Tomorrow I'll chroot in that partition and see what went wrong. urodelo On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 21:31:34 +0200, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Uhm, ok now it's working don't know what's wrong before... sorry for bothering I'm upgrading now On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:18:56 +0200, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Helo. When I run apt-get update, I get this error: W: Failed to fetch http://qtmoko.meurisse.org/Release Unable to find expected entry Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. in my sources.list I've written: deb http://qtmoko.meurisse.org / Thanks urodelo On Thu, 14 Apr 2011 00:06:13 +0200, Vincent Meurisse openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org wrote: Thanks a lot. A question: some time ago I had upated my installation through the deb package on http://qtmoko.meurisse.org. The version there is still v31. Hello, I finally found time to update the packages on qtmoko.meurisse.org. I was unfortunately unable to test them completely. Please report any bug. Warning: if you installed to nand, DO NOT TRY TO UPDATE The filesystem change from jffs2 to ubifs would make your phone unbootable. Regards -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qtmoko v35
Thanks a lot. A question: some time ago I had upated my installation through the deb package on http://qtmoko.meurisse.org. The version there is still v31. I know packaging takes time, but I just would like to know if it's better to go back to the old tar.gz way or if a newer deb version will soon be available on qtmoko.meurisse.org thanks again urodelo On Tue, 05 Apr 2011 09:24:44 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: Hi, i have uploaded new stable qtmoko v35 images to sourceforge now [1]. For more information about qtmoko please see [2][3]. Here is list of changes since v34: * Fix missing icon for qtmoko apps web * Build with translations * Fix Xglamo install in QX * Dont build qx_helper, it's not needed anymore * Fixed package description for gta02-gsm-bt-fix I hope all regressions are now fixed and v35 version will be for some time qtmoko's stable version and i will have some time for experiments ;-) Regards Radek [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/ [2] http://qtmoko.org/ [3] http://qtmoko.sourceforge.net/ -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GameRunner distribution v0.3
Well done. Thank you ! On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 15:31:31 +0100, Rafael Ignacio Zurita rafaelignacio.zur...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, new version of GameRunner after almost one year. GameRunner is an Openmoko Linux distribution. It aims to convert the Freerunner phone into a Linux-based handheld game console : http://gamerunner.sourceforge.net/ New Version 0.3 Available : http://gamerunner.sourceforge.net/download_installation.html Screenshots, pictures and instructions about how to play : http://gamerunner.sourceforge.net/games.html Changelog since 0.2 : - added The Battle for Wesnoth game - added Free Heroes II game - added RoadFighter racing game - added Xgalaga game - added GnuBoy emulator - added Xvier (4 in a row) game - fixed the problem with ubifs on nand (previous versions used to corrupt FS on NAND) - added bigger icons for launchers - improved a bit the snes9x performance Some random notes : - Boot time using qi is 15-20 seconds since second boot - Many games use gamerunner gamecontrol which we wrote to control games like an external gamepad. With this tool we do not need to modify games source code in order to use touchscreen and accelerometers as controls. If it is hard for you to play games, please, read the documentation on screen and gamerunner web site. Also, you will find a video explaining the two modes feature. The gamecontrol has a lot of command line arguments, so you can set your own settings for it. - Use Power button for exiting any game and get back to main menu. - Use Aux button for switching mode in games using gamerunner gamecontrol. - We have a forum to share suggestions, ideas, contribution work or report of bugs. Also, we think openmoko mailing list is fine as well. - save does not work on The Battle of Wesnoth. We will work on that. Sorry about the delay for this new version. We got several suggestions on forums, but we have not had time to work on those ideas before. Now we finally did, so enjoy :-) Rafa -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: list strangeness
Hi I've experimented problems too; I get the msgs through news reader and for some days I didn't get anything; once I've sent a msg to one of the list, I've got a reply asking me to subscribe to ANOTHER mailing list on gmane from which I get the msgs... Because I use Opera for mailing lists, I've thought it was one of its usual weird behavior, but after your reports I think maybe there was a problem on the news server On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 21:26:53 +0100, shamsul hassan shamsulbu...@gmail.com wrote: Its strange .. i thought that everybody is just relaxing and not doing anything but this doesn't seems to be the case .. coz today I got all the mails in a single shot which were sent 13 days back ... Thank god .. it actually reached safely .. On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Doug Jones dj...@frombob.to wrote: I just sent a message to mailman about this. I also checked the archives of the other published Openmoko lists. The Community list is the only one showing any activity since January 21, and even that is very small. Prior to January 21, the list was getting about seven messages per day, similar to the rate for the last few months. Now it is down to about one per day. They all seem to be replies to messages sent on or before January 21, or newly created messages, or the 'list strangeness' messages where we are generating replies manually from the list archive. This suggests to me that nobody is receiving list messages via email. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Missing 'close application' button (partially solved myself)
You can run the enlightenment wizard again to get that bar on the shelf back; or if you feel lazier, delete .e (in that way you'll lose your illume customizations): /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm stop rm -rf ~/.e* /etc/init.d/xserver-nodm start as Martin Jansa suggested on the shr ml On Sat, 08 Jan 2011 23:59:29 +0100, Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de wrote: On Sat, 8 Jan 2011, David Lanzendörfer wrote: Can someone give me a hint? Tap onto the bar between clock and tork. Then a cross and two arrows should appear Nope - that's exactly what I'm missing. And that's one of the most outstanding features that makes the FR better than a single-application device like the iPhone ;) What I did to get it fixed: - click on the 'wrench' icon in the top-bar - choose 'Settings' (green SHR icon) - choose 'Profiles' - choose 'Default', then press 'OK' - had to go through all initial setup steps again (provider, password, profile etc). Then the prev/close/next buttons are available. BUT THEN: When I did the same steps above again (to verify that my description was corrent), I got TWO prev/close/next buttons beyound each other! And you can repeat this step, adding more and more prev/close/next buttons ;) BTW will this set-up not survive a reboot; after that, the prev/close/next buttons are lost again. A. -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko v31 - Debian update packages
Thank you very much urodelo On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:11:51 +0100, Vincent Meurisse openmoko-commun...@meurisse.org wrote: Hello, I (finally) uploaded the new Debian packages for QtMoko v31. Make sure you read the releases notes http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Update#Update_to_v31 or you might end-up with no sound during calls. As usual, instructions are located at http://qtmoko.org/wiki/Update. Regards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qdictopia
Thanks Radek, the eng-czech dictionary works. However, I have some dictionaries in another folder (shared with shr installation); I've made a link in /usr/share/stardict/dic/dictionary_1 pointing to /myfolder/dictionary_1/ but qdictopia doesn't show anything, therefore I have the doubt that it is not able to look in /usr/share/stardict/dic/ subfolders. In fact the eng-czech dictionary has been installed directly in /usr/share/stardict/dic/ so that ifo idx files etc were immediately available there. This is a problem, because I own many dictionaries of the same language and the name of the dict, ifo files etc. can sometimes be the same, therefore I can't put them all together in teh same folder, assuming that qdictopia is able to distinguish the different dictionaries in the same folder... Any suggestion about how to solve my problem? urodelo On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:13:38 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: urodelo wrote: Hello, how can i configure the path for my dictionaries for qdictopia? It should be /usr/share/stardict/dic/ you can install czech dictionary with apt-get as an example how it should look like. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qdictopia
Thanks for your answer. I'm not in a hurry :-) in the meanwhile I can use estardict on shr. Knowing that you'll fix it is already enough for me. Thank you very much urodelo On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:40:00 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: urodelo wrote: This is a problem, because I own many dictionaries of the same language and the name of the dict, ifo files etc. can sometimes be the same, therefore I can't put them all together in teh same folder, assuming that qdictopia is able to distinguish the different dictionaries in the same folder... Any suggestion about how to solve my problem? Hmm this looks like some patch for qdictopia would be needed. Unfortunately i am now busy with other stuff. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: qdictopia - PS
PS: may I suggest you to solve that problem, to let qdictopia directly chose where to lokk for the dictionary, once started? More or less like on estardict... I think it should be ok in that way Thank you again On Wed, 05 Jan 2011 17:40:00 +0100, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: urodelo wrote: This is a problem, because I own many dictionaries of the same language and the name of the dict, ifo files etc. can sometimes be the same, therefore I can't put them all together in teh same folder, assuming that qdictopia is able to distinguish the different dictionaries in the same folder... Any suggestion about how to solve my problem? Hmm this looks like some patch for qdictopia would be needed. Unfortunately i am now busy with other stuff. Regards Radek -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
qdictopia
Hello, how can i configure the path for my dictionaries for qdictopia? thanks urodelo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?
Hi again. Thank you for your answers. I really hope those interested in android related work can cooperate and improve together. I say this just as a humble freerunner user. Niels, thank you, I've red what you've written on the board at Replicant website. I need to clarify that I'm actually not related in any way to Replicant project, neither I'm the one who has tried to get contacts with aof before (that's because you couldn't see my email address in your inbox etc); I've just seen their project and asked them about infos, then I've wondered about it's knowledge into the openmoko community, because I've never heard about it on this ml or other related to openmoko. After telling this, I think teh people of aof, replicant and those interested in them, could go on with this discussion together on the mailing lists of aof and replicant. I'll later join the two ml to see if I can be of any help, even I'm not able to program either my working day... :-P Thanks to all and sorry if I've used this ml for something which maybe wasn't so strictly related to it's main discussions urodelo On Tue, 09 Nov 2010 11:14:54 +0100, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: But if you wanna port Android onto the new OpenMoko. I'm sure GNUtoo will be pleased to do this too, as soon as he got a new OpenMoko. Guys, For those of you interested in running/building/improving Android on the Freerunner, check out http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/. Cupcake is stable and working on the Freerunner. We've recently received some patches which should have resolved issues with sound via Bluetooth (thanks to Zhang Yi). Froyo is still under construction. Ran and Jim are working on some patches to improve the Froyo branch. Cupcake and Froyo are now available in SD only or NAND installations (thanks to Christian and Ran). The project mailinglist can be found here: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner. It would be great to see what co-operation is possible with other initiatives also targetting Android on the Freerunner. Feel free to post your ideas on the AoF list to discuss with the AoF community. Kind regards, Niels. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Another so suitable for freeruner?
Helo community. Today I've read an article about a new so for mobile phones with android installed. Its name is Replicant (http://replicant.us/). It comes from android, and the intention of the developers is to clean android from closed source code and provide a completely free/open environment. They say, now they support HTC Dream / ADP1 and Google Nexus One, and are willing to port Replicant to other devices. I've written a post on their website to let them know about the freerunner. What do you think? urodelo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?
Hi Brian. They already know the FR, as we could guess. Actually they are looking for somebody willing to collaborate on that project. I'm reading they look for testers too, but I think any kind of help would be appreciated... Anybody interested? I don't know them but imho it looks worth to have a kind of partnership between Replicant and openmoko community... urodelo On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:37:14 +0100, Brian Kemp brian.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hello urodelo. If I recall correctly, Replicant folk are quite familiar w/ FreeRunner the OpenMoko phones. They are already using the GSM interface library written by OpenMoko. It should be fairly easy to port back collaborate. On Mon, 2010-11-08 at 15:55 +0100, urodelo wrote: Helo community. Today I've read an article about a new so for mobile phones with android installed. Its name is Replicant (http://replicant.us/). It comes from android, and the intention of the developers is to clean android from closed source code and provide a completely free/open environment. They say, now they support HTC Dream / ADP1 and Google Nexus One, and are willing to port Replicant to other devices. I've written a post on their website to let them know about the freerunner. What do you think? urodelo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Another so suitable for freeruner?
Hi. Thanks for the answer. So you both are already working on replicant? That's good. I either don't like the android license, that's because I've thought that having a free android, as the replicant is intended for, would be nice. I personally use qtmoko and shr, but for me more choices we have thebetter is. Of course it's a challenge even because gta02 is now getting a bit old (no flame!) compared to other devices, but because of its diffusion, it would be a good thing for me to have it available for our fr and for next generation gta. free sw in free runner. urodelo On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 20:45:26 +0100, David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch wrote: I don't know them but imho it looks worth to have a kind of partnership between Replicant and openmoko community... You know GNUtoo, and he knows me. So you know someone of the project. Replicant has moved Android-only right? I'm not so fan of Android, because of it's license strategy... Have you had a look? There is already SHR, with nice 3D and good usability growing. But if you wanna port Android onto the new OpenMoko. I'm sure GNUtoo will be pleased to do this too, as soon as he got a new OpenMoko. ATM we are still experimenting with the PCB. And soldering wildly around, because the board gives us some riddles. best regards leviathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [qtmoko] pim import
Hi. I've just checked my sim card on another telephone, and it shows the contacts which shouldn't be there because I've previously deleted them. This means that qtmoko has copied them from sqlite to the sim, which after a reboot has imported them back to sqlite, but with the family names truncated at the 4th character (because the sim card doesn't support so many characters for a contact, therefore it's not recognized as a duplicate). This is a behavior which i absolutely want to avoid, how can I avoid qtmoko to copy to/from sim card? Thanks urodelo On Thu, 14 Oct 2010 12:30:29 +0200, giacomo 'giotti' mariani giacomomari...@yahoo.it wrote: Hello. During these days I'm trying to import/export pim data to/from qtmoko, but I've some problems. I've deleted all the contacts from the sim card, deleted them all from addressbook on sqlite db, and then imported a vcard file. The import looks successful, but after rebooting/unmounting the battery or the sim card, my addressbook looks full of duplicated entries, and those duplicates are not an exact copy of another record: the family name is cut after the 4th character, and among the different fields, only the telephone numbers appear, no email, address, category, etc. Weird to say, not all the original contacts have been duplicated (anyway they are the greatest part). How can I avoid getting all these duplicated records? Second issue: is there a way to import ical data into the calender and/or the todo of qtmoko? If yes, how? Thank you, urodelo I've noticed a similar behavior looking at the contacts (not) shared between QtEI (NAND) and QtMoko (uSD) and the one imported/exported via http://code.google.com/p/sqt2vcf/. I think that Qt* automatically export contacts to SIM, but only if they are of some given kind (may be, for example, TEL;WORK;VOICE, but not TEL;HOME;VOICE). This means that sqt2vcf should be improved... Moreover, I'd like to have (like in ASU2008 and FDTM) the export to SIM voice in the contact's menu :-). Cheers Giacomo __ Do You Yahoo!? Poco spazio e tanto spam? Yahoo! Mail ti protegge dallo spam e ti da tanto spazio gratuito per i tuoi file e i messaggi http://mail.yahoo.it -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[qtmoko] pim import
Hello. During these days I'm trying to import/export pim data to/from qtmoko, but I've some problems. I've deleted all the contacts from the sim card, deleted them all from addressbook on sqlite db, and then imported a vcard file. The import looks successful, but after rebooting/unmounting the battery or the sim card, my addressbook looks full of duplicated entries, and those duplicates are not an exact copy of another record: the family name is cut after the 4th character, and among the different fields, only the telephone numbers appear, no email, address, category, etc. Weird to say, not all the original contacts have been duplicated (anyway they are the greatest part). How can I avoid getting all these duplicated records? Second issue: is there a way to import ical data into the calender and/or the todo of qtmoko? If yes, how? Thank you, urodelo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki.openmoko.org unreachable?
It's up again now! Thank you urodelo On Fri, 08 Oct 2010 08:50:07 +0200, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com wrote: 2010/10/7 Joerg Reisenweber jo...@openmoko.org: hetzner moved irons. fs needed fsck and other service, after 2 years 'uptime' Central Services (aka roh, gismo) is taking care of it. ETA unknown yet. Thanks for letting us know. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: wiki.openmoko.org unreachable?
Yes, at least since 15.00 (6th October) o'clock I couldn't connect to it. urodelo On Wed, 06 Oct 2010 23:53:14 +0200, Alexander Lehner leh...@edv-buero-lehner.de wrote: I'm wondering if I've missed some announcement but wiki.openmoko.org seems unreachable since yesterday evening. a 'traceroute wiki.openmoko.org' shows an endless loop: 22 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms static.88-198-58-1.clients.your-server.de [88.198.58.1] 23 111 ms 113 ms 111 ms bhavani.openmoko.org [88.198.58.17] 24 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms static.88-198-58-1.clients.your-server.de [88.198.58.1] 25 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms bhavani.openmoko.org [88.198.58.17] 26 111 ms 123 ms 113 ms static.88-198-58-1.clients.your-server.de [88.198.58.1] 27 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms bhavani.openmoko.org [88.198.58.17] 28 111 ms 111 ms 111 ms static.88-198-58-1.clients.your-server.de [88.198.58.1] 29 111 ms 111 ms * bhavani.openmoko.org [88.198.58.17] 30 111 ms 111 ms 112 ms static.88-198-58-1.clients.your-server.de [88.198.58.1] Who is hosting this page? I'm wondering about the 'your-server.de' domain. I first thought this could be a problem with my provider (I'm in GER). But I get the above result from a machine that is located in the USA (where I have access to via vpn). Any ideas? Alex. -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
fifteen pieces...
Well, not a big problem... After installing qtmoko v26, I've noted that the game fifteen pieces doesn't work anymore. I simply can't move the tiles. Mixing tiles from menu works. Resetting the game works too. urodelo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new QtMoko Theme
Beautiful! Thank you On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 17:41:46 +0200, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: I just released a preversion of a new Theme for QtMoko : AsthroMod Some pics : http://openmoko-fr.org/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=15128 Some tar : http://freerunner.daily.free.fr/files/fr/asthromod.tar just untar everythin in the root of FR . regds ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Hello. Thank you for the update. When will it be available in shr-u? I'm willing to test it :-) urodelo On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 20:51:45 +0200, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote: Hi! I released the fourth version of eStarDict. http://www.vaudano.eu/wiki/en/estardict Best regards Luca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Right! here men at work! not in the bed! :-D On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:46:58 +0200, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote: wow... so efficient :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: fifteen pieces...
On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:38:52 +0200, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: urodelo wrote: Well, not a big problem... After installing qtmoko v26, I've noted that the game fifteen pieces doesn't work anymore. I simply can't move the tiles. Mixing tiles from menu works. Resetting the game works too. I think it's because of touchscreen jitter which this game does not like. But if you try touching it should be possible to play - at i least i was able to do it. I've tryed with the tongue too, but I can't move any tile... I don't know if it's important, but I've kept my home folder, with all the hidden folders/file too, of v24 after installing v26. Because the qtmoko packages are stored in the home folder, if i remember well, maybe i've messed up something. Could it be the cause? I believe that the jitter will be possible to solve - either in userspace or maybe backporting touchscreen filters. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Hello Luca and others, I can confirm the new version of estardict is working with dictionaries -stardict-langdao-ec-gb-2.4.2.tar.bz2 -quick_eng-zh_CN (stardict too) Thank you very much Luca urodelo On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:52:32 +0200, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Right! here men at work! not in the bed! :-D On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 22:46:58 +0200, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote: wow... so efficient :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
mozilla phone
Today I've read about the new mozilla phone, seabird. The official page can be found here: http://mozillalabs.com/conceptseries/2010/09/23/seabird// It's not open hw, uses android. However my impression is that at least the internet popular press is gonna get that idea, because behind there's mozilla's make... Is it another step into the war of the mobile browsers, or is it a project with a real future? urodelo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-Fi
Hi. Basically, for knowing network configuration type: cat /etc/network/interfaces Freerunner by default uses dhcp for getting an ip address. If you want to use a static IP, you just need to do as I've told you before ifconfig eth0 ipofyourfreerunner where ipofyourfreerunner is the IP address you want to use, for example 192.168.1.100 (must be of the same network class of the notebook wifi card). Mind that both wifi card on freerunner and notebokk must use static IP in this case, which is not the default. So you need to change them. Moreover, if you have used the cable IP address of your notebook as default gateway, as I understood, this doesn't work! You need to use the wifi card IP address of the notebook! At this moment, do not consider the cable adapter of your notebook, think that it doesn't exist. iwconfig output shows the card is up and running. however there's no essid. Even if hidden, i think you should see the name there if you're connected. This can mean that you're out of range or you didn't put the correct essid By the way, you should set the wifi connection in ad-hoc mode on both freerunner and notebook (if supported). On linux you just have to type: iwconfig eth0 mode ad-hoc On the notebook I guess there should be a wizard for setting it up... Last, if it is possible I suggest you to try to connect the freerunner to a real access point first, which maybe could use dhcp and make everything easier for you; you can still exchange files between notebook and fr by connecting both to the same ap. After understanding a bit how it works, then you can try to set an ad-hoc network between teh notebook and the fr, which is a bit more complicate ByeZ urodelo On Thu, 27 May 2010 13:23:59 +0200, Tanmay Mathur tanmay.mathu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Urodelo, Thanx for your reply! I tried the commands as told by you. It worked as you said, returned route : SIOCADDRT: file exists. using iwconfig eth0 after this it returned eth0 AR6000 802.11g essid: mode : managed bit rate: 1 M b/s Tx - power = 0 dbm sensitivity = 0/3 retry on encryption key : 3132-3334-35 power management : off link quality : 0/94 signal level : -95 dbm noise level : -96 dbm Rx invalid nwid : 0 Rx invalid crypt : 0 Rx invalid frag : 0 Tx excessive retries : 0 invalid misc : 0 missed beacon : 0 However when i try to ping my computer from FR, it does not respond. I used the ethernet adapter ip address of my laptop to ping. Also please tell me that how should i find the default ip of free runner. i am using ifconfig command for this purpose. Regards. -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Using Wi-Fi
Hi, I don't know if you already know how to use a linux system, so that you can understand the command line. There are some softwares for enabling the wifi on shr and qtmoko, but with wep basically they never worked for me. However others told me on this ml about an application for shr, called iliwi, which works with wep if you are using dhcp on you access point, if i remember well it already comes with a fresh shr installation. If you can't use it, because don't have a dhcp server, open a terminal window and type following commands: ifconfig eth0 ipofyourfreerunner route add default gw ipofyourwindowspc iwconfig eth0 essid yournetworkessid key yourHEXpassphrase both IP should own to the same network class (ex 192.168.2.202 and 192.2.200). For me, I always need to issue those commands twice for makind it work; I know I'm connected when the 2nd time I get : SIOCADDRT: file exists. Type iwconfig eth0 in a terminal, if it shows that it's associated to the ap/pc, you can now try to ping your default gateway, and if it works, you can transfer the file to your pc. I suggest you to put all the above commmands inside a bash script to run when you need, it'll be faster and easier bye urodelo On Wed, 26 May 2010 21:22:16 +0200, Tanmay Mathur tanmay.mathu...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I am a beginner trying to connect neo freerunner to a wep wireless network on my laptop using windows. The aim is to send a file from neo to the laptop via WiFi. Please suggest the method to connect it with my laptop. What commands should i use..? Thanx. -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Hello. Does anybody know about an eng-pinyin / pinyin-eng dictionary available for estardict? I've found a dictionary program for windows many years ago, with pinyin-eng and eng-pinyin. It's open source, but i didn't find any way to convert the word files into a standard format to make it availabel for stardict/estardict. urodelo On Thu, 11 Mar 2010 09:32:19 +0100, Xiangfu Liu xiangf...@gmail.com wrote: Vaudano Luca wrote: Hi! You got an error because this is a bazaar, not a svn repository, repository. By the way, all the instructions are here: http://www.vaudano.eu/wiki/en/estardictInstallation#Development_in_Ubuntu_Karmic I tried eStarDict with chinese charset and it works fine. If you need help for making it works on the Ben NanoNote, please ask me. If you success please post some screenshots :) Thanks Vaudano I am work on port StarDict to NanoNote. the StarDict work fine in NanoNote. if I have time maybe try to port the eStarDict to NanoNote. will let you know then. :-) Regards Luca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Actually no, I wasn't talking about that, I didn't know it. Do you know how to port it to stardict? The dict i was talking about is this: http://www.dejudicibus.it/dizionario/index.html?cinese+cinese It works under wine too, but of course can't use it on fr. However that one does what I need. So I'm looking for a similar dictionary for the fr. urodelo On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:15:43 +0200, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 5:35 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello. Does anybody know about an eng-pinyin / pinyin-eng dictionary available for estardict? I've found a dictionary program for windows many years ago, with pinyin-eng and eng-pinyin. It's open source, but i didn't find any way to convert the word files into a standard format to make it availabel for stardict/estardict. are you talking about, or have you tried this? http://www.mdbg.net/chindict/chindict.php?page=cc-cedict ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Yes, I know this but it's different from what I'm looking for: typing a wor in pinyin and getting its meaning and viceversa. The problem for westerns to use achinese dictionary is when they don't know the hanz+ (hideograms), and therefore they can just use the latin translitteration (pinyin), which I am trying to find On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:42:53 +0200, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: in debian there's a package dict-stardic - An English to Chinese Dictionary another source may be http://stardict.sourceforge.net/Dictionaries_zh_CN.php (according to http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=28028 ) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Thanks, I'll try to see if it can be ported on stardict On Sun, 23 May 2010 18:42:48 +0200, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 9:32 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Actually no, I wasn't talking about that, I didn't know it. Do you know how to port it to stardict? The dict i was talking about is this: http://www.dejudicibus.it/dizionario/index.html?cinese+cinese no idea, but i use that dic on my windows box a lot. and the dic file is openable on linux.. thats about as much as i know. -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ANNOUNCE] eStarDict
Grazie! I'll try to create one by using those files provided by other dictionaries. ciao On Sun, 23 May 2010 20:31:35 +0200, Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 7:04 PM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks, I'll try to see if it can be ported on stardict I tried to write a guide for creating a dictionary for starDict http://www.vaudano.eu/wiki/en/development#How_to_create_your_own_dictionaries I didn't try it :P I just collected the information from Internet. Any feedback is welcomed ciao ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 8 Gigabyte Sandisk MicroSDHC Incompatibility
Just a semi-ot: I've recently bought a card for my fr which is not exactly listed on the wiki, so i think it's another sub-type. It should be similar to the card of the thread: SanDisk microsdhc 8GB (real 7,6)class 2 - serial: SDSDQ-8192-P36M On the wiki there are others with similar serial. I've partitioned and formatted it by putting it in my mp3 reader (also SanDisk), built 1 fat partition for android and 3 ext. Put back in fr it is working without problems, even I have to say that my fr is seldom in suspend mode... So I wonder, are those general compatibility issues related to class/speed? Considering my card and the one of Vencabot Teppoo, same brand, same capacity (apparently at least), maybe just a class different, I don't understand why mine is working out of the box and his isn't... urodelo On Fri, 21 May 2010 13:07:55 +0200, Yann Droneaud y...@droneaud.fr wrote: Le vendredi 21 mai 2010 à 12:56 +0200, David Garabana Barro a écrit : People use sd cards without partitions. Even Windows XP doesn't recognice partitions but the first one. That's why manufacturers doesn't bother to say that partition alignation is required. Or they came pre-partitionned. Average users never touch to the partition table. Once in a while they could make a new filesystem, but wont touch to the partition. (eg: format F: don't change the partition table on any media). Regards. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GameRunner distribution
Good idea! :-) Any plan to include any emulator? Will it be possible) urodelo On Fri, 30 Apr 2010 04:01:34 +0200, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: I just wanted to express my gratitude for creating this distro. I'm going on a trip in a few days and this just what I needed!!! Leonti On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 10:48 PM, GNUtoo gnu...@no-log.org wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-29 at 11:05 -0700, Rafael Ignacio Zurita wrote: Hello, GameRunner is an Openmoko Linux distribution. It aims convert the Freerunner open mobile phone in a Linux-based handheld game console. It is simple, and contains cool and suitable open source games for Linux mobile devices. Great idea!!! But I would prefer to just: opkg install task-gamerunner under SHR,or shr-gamerunner images. A big issue is that I was unable to remove frame pointer under a recent kernel... and frame pointer says: CONFIG_FRAME_POINTER: If you say Y here the resulting kernel image will be slightly larger and slower, but it gives very useful debugging information in case of kernel bugs. (precise oopses/stacktraces/warnings) If I remember well on htcdream that had huge performances impact (from unusable midori to usable) By the way we have some games in openembedded and maybe SHR: *battle for wesnoth *xboard + gnuchess and/or phalanx(for beginners) *mokomaze *pingus *scummvm *numpty physics *supertux *etc just grep for game in openembedded Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
1 doesn't happen to me (yet) 2 didn't try 3 i agree. the problem there is that you can't kill the app when you finish using it, therefore when many programs are running, there's not enough memory. I've red that ES File Explorer is able to kill the applications, but i didn't try yet. You can find it here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/Applications urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:29:23 +0200, Emanuele Leomanni emanuele...@gmail.com wrote: By using Android as my daily phone on my FreeRunner I have noticed that there are just three problems that still need to be fixed: 1. Microphone volume: sometimes it is too low and people can't listen my voice. 2. Speakers: when I activate the speakers during a call the other person listen his voice back. 3. Sometimes it get frozen, especially when a lot of applications are running (not enought resources?) Emanuele On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ventura upgrades, https and self-signed certificates
Right, i agree. In my case, if I point the browser to my https web page, it shows a load of 10% and then stops. I just get a white page (which should mean: hey i'm not willing to load anything!). The same page is normally shown if ssl is disabled. Also for the https links I've experimented the same behaviour as Tom. It is great to know all this will be solved in the next release :-) Thanks a lot again On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:25:50 +0200, Tom Yates madhat...@teaparty.net wrote: On Tue, 20 Apr 2010, urodelo wrote: Since I use ventura, my whole shr experience is much better. finally a decent web browser! before it was impossible to surf the internet with woosh or others. only dillo was usable for me, but with ventura i can finally go through https too. i find the pg buttons etc very useful. thanks a lot i, too, am much enjoying ventura over previous browsers. that said, i posted this query to shr-user originally, but got no answers, so i thought i'd try here. hope that's OK. i had thought i was having a problem with ventura and https pages, because in menu - URL, the https drop-down doesn't select (i click it, but it keeps coming up http), plus i couldn't follow a link to an https page i wanted (my webmail service). but it seems that https links are fine provided the certificate is properly signed; it's only that i run my own webmail service and the certificate is self-signed. is there any way to tell ventura not to check the certificate chain, but just to load the page? -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: ventura upgrades
Hello. Since I use ventura, my whole shr experience is much better. finally a decent web browser! before it was impossible to surf the internet with woosh or others. only dillo was usable for me, but with ventura i can finally go through https too. i find the pg buttons etc very useful. thanks a lot On Thu, 15 Apr 2010 03:31:51 +0200, c_c cchan...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi, Thanks to an unknown contributer (googlecode hides email ids) - ventura has had a few usability improvements for finger scrolling, pg up, pg down, pg left and pg right buttons. I've updated the repository so the newer version should hit the feeds soon. For those not willing to wait here is an ipk http://n2.nabble.com/file/n4905070/ventura_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk ventura_1.0-r0.4_armv4t.ipk . As ususal, feedback is welcome. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: new app - oFart
Oh YES! It's the killer app I was waiting for!! Although it would be more interesting, imho, if it would let me chose among diffent... wav(s)... :-D Ehm... well not bad for the my first message to the community. I'm using the freerunner as solo phone since the past December, with qtmoko as primary distro, shr and since one week, android. I would like to thank you all for your great efforts... uhm I mean in a wide sense... I basically got the freerunner because i believe in its possibilities and in the power of the community. And because i hate iphone users. By the way, i think this application could solve many life problems: -it can give you an excuse to run away when you meet your former gf while walking around with your new lover -it can soften the stress of an exam at the uni -it can persuade the parents of your ugly classmate that you're not the right guy for their daughter -useful for getting a quick discount in a shop instead of one hour of discussion with the clerk -a scenographic way to escape from a police catch and disappear in a cloud of smog... -taking a picture among the public with your most hatred actor/actress in Cannes, running the app and then looking disgusted at him/her -entering inside an iPhone shop and pushing out all the customers However, tomorrow I'll use it inside a bus to see the reactions... ByeZ On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 16:04:58 +0200, Tim Abell t...@timwise.co.uk wrote: hiya, I wrote something pointless to make me laugh. simple installation: cd /etc/opkg wget http://www.timwise.co.uk/opkg/ofart/ofart-feed.conf http://www.timwise.co.uk/opkg/podpooch/podpooch-feed.conf opkg update opkg install ofart code at: http://github.com/timabell/oFart package / feed config at: http://www.timwise.co.uk/opkg/ofart/ enjoy Tim Abell -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
