Anyone look at Always Innovating Super-Jumbo as basis for Android under SHR?
I've seen there has been some discussion on using Android on Freerunner or Replicant on GTA04 phones [1]. There has even been some success at running Android under QtMoko or SHR using chroot, but it seems no one has looked at integrating it within the SHR build system. I'm wondering if I'm wrong, because I think that the Always Innovating Super-Jumbo release for BeagleBoard-xM [2] would make a good enough example that could be reverse engineered and included within the SHR builds. I'd really like to have my primary interface be SHR, but I still want to be able to run Android applications. I continue to evaluate putting an actual build of Android under meta-android, but I think someone else would know much better how to do this and it is pretty far down my priority list. Anyway, I'm putting it out there that I'm looking into the challenge. [1] http://lists.openmoko.org/nabble.html#nabble-td7561986 [2] http://www.alwaysinnovating.com/wiki/index.php/Beagleboard ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Running android apps on qtmoko/shr?
I tested AoF and the Froyo version even worked quite nicely on my freerunner, but I still prefer QtMoko and SHR at the moment and as I only need one or two android specific apps it would be nice to have these apps to be able to run on Qtmoko/SHR. But as I read from the comments it might be possible but a tremendous amount of time/work would be needed. thanks for the answers robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Running android apps on qtmoko/shr?
I know this sounds a bit weird but does anyone know if there is a possibility to run android apps on qtmoko or shr? both distros have pretty much all software I am looking for but eg for org-mode there are smartphone optimized graphical user interfaces which would making integrating the freerunner in my workflow much easier. robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Running android apps on qtmoko/shr?
On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM, robin spielr...@web.de wrote: I know this sounds a bit weird but does anyone know if there is a possibility to run android apps on qtmoko or shr? Well, there _is_ the AoF (Android on Freerunner) project, and Paul K. is working on Replicant for the GTA04... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Running android apps on qtmoko/shr?
MeeGo side we had some tracks to run android/dalvik apps on a gnu system ... but it is still not usable ... so far the only project i know to run apk outside android is qemu or bluestack (may be also vm) ... -- http://rzr.online.fr/q/dalvik On 10/9/12, Christ van Willegen cvwille...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:58 PM, robin spielr...@web.de wrote: I know this sounds a bit weird but does anyone know if there is a possibility to run android apps on qtmoko or shr? Well, there _is_ the AoF (Android on Freerunner) project, and Paul K. is working on Replicant for the GTA04... Christ van Willegen -- 09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Related Obsession : http://rzr.online.fr/q/tizen ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Running android apps on qtmoko/shr?
On Tuesday, October 09, 2012 03:58:18 PM robin wrote: I know this sounds a bit weird but does anyone know if there is a possibility to run android apps on qtmoko or shr? both distros have pretty much all software I am looking for but eg for org-mode there are smartphone optimized graphical user interfaces which would making integrating the freerunner in my workflow much easier. It should be possible to run android apps in chroot - something like qx in QtMoko. I even had android and QtMoko running on GTA04 at the same time. But it's a lot of work to make it usable. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
Hi, you can find updated (but experimental) builds for both nand and sd here: http://serdar-dere.net/~ran/ They aren't 100% stable but so far I use it as my daily system with qtmoko urodelo On Fri, 04 May 2012 00:36:22 +0200, THomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: On 03/05/2012 22:47, dmatthews.org wrote: Hi Thomas I was looking back for the Serdar Dere's android installers. It was great, and I'm sad the site is empty now. Indeed yes Does anyone has any backup of those images/files ? I have android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20110312.tar.gz and android-on-freerunner-cupcake-sd-daily-20110312.tar.gz Both work well, but eat battery even by freerunner standards; the sd card version is best if you want to customize things. I could stick either or both on a server temporarily if you like. Ho yeah I'll be really happy ! I have a Moko with (I think) a 'hole' in the NAND, and Android on Sd is the best solution ... Let me know where you put them or if you want an account somewhere to drop it. Thanks alot by advance Thomas -- 用斯斯！ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
+++ urodelo [04/05/12 09:35 +0200]: Hi, you can find updated (but experimental) builds for both nand and sd here: http://serdar-dere.net/~ran/ Hi Thomas yeah urodelo is correct, in fact that's where I got them from - the same files are still there so I think you do not need me. I found the cupcake images pretty damn stable - in fact I liked them so much I eventually bought an android phone (the larger screen did it for me). That's probably not the recommendation that Alexander would like :) but battery life was the only drawback cf qtmoko and shr as far as I was concerned. -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
On 04/05/2012 10:14, David Matthews wrote: +++ urodelo [04/05/12 09:35 +0200]: Hi, you can find updated (but experimental) builds for both nand and sd here: http://serdar-dere.net/~ran/ Hi Thomas yeah urodelo is correct, in fact that's where I got them from - the same files are still there so I think you do not need me. Well thank you very much both ! I found the cupcake images pretty damn stable - in fact I liked them so much I eventually bought an android phone (the larger screen did it for me). That's probably not the recommendation that Alexander would like :) but battery life was the only drawback cf qtmoko and shr as far as I was concerned. It's just to test if the phone, every distro hangs at startup ... If it is definitly broken , I will (try) transform it into a PirateBox ! Thanks again for the link, I'll backup those file immediately. Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
Hi, I was looking back for the Serdar Dere's android installers. It was great, and I'm sad the site is empty now. Does anyone has any backup of those images/files ? Thanks a lot Thomas/AstHrO ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
Hi Thomas I was looking back for the Serdar Dere's android installers. It was great, and I'm sad the site is empty now. Indeed yes Does anyone has any backup of those images/files ? I have android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20110312.tar.gz and android-on-freerunner-cupcake-sd-daily-20110312.tar.gz Both work well, but eat battery even by freerunner standards; the sd card version is best if you want to customize things. I could stick either or both on a server temporarily if you like. -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Serdar Dere Android on Freerunner Mirrors ?
On 03/05/2012 22:47, dmatthews.org wrote: Hi Thomas I was looking back for the Serdar Dere's android installers. It was great, and I'm sad the site is empty now. Indeed yes Does anyone has any backup of those images/files ? I have android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20110312.tar.gz and android-on-freerunner-cupcake-sd-daily-20110312.tar.gz Both work well, but eat battery even by freerunner standards; the sd card version is best if you want to customize things. I could stick either or both on a server temporarily if you like. Ho yeah I'll be really happy ! I have a Moko with (I think) a 'hole' in the NAND, and Android on Sd is the best solution ... Let me know where you put them or if you want an account somewhere to drop it. Thanks alot by advance Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
In The Name Of Allah Hello This is answer of stefan schimdt (dfu-utils developer) : The number of shown partitions is hardcoded atm to DFU_NUM_ALTERNATES which is set to 6. So you last partition does not get shown increment it to seven in your board config and re-compile your u-boot and test again. but unfortunately ,have not board here ,would someone recompile it ? On Sun, Jan 22, 2012 at 12:52 AM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks have tried: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) Now printenv shows: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) but when want to try dfu-utils -l shows: Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name=u-boot Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=2, name=u-boot_env Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=4, name=splash Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=5, name=factory Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=system again there is no userdata On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org wrote: El Thursday 19 January 2012 17:52:46 a dehqan va escriure: Thanks methink so Have installed uboot on NAND and have set enviroments on it , this is mtdparts output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G and this is printenv output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G But dfu-util -l http://pastebin.com/59fLK4GC does not show any userdata partition while it got system partition Have you tried to use diferent mtdparts while flashing? one like this for system: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system) and other like this for usedata: setenv mtdpartsmtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0404(factory_system),0x0b6a(userdata) and, if using uboot to start android, this other when all is flasshed: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 08:07:15PM +0330, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of Allah Hello This is answer of stefan schimdt (dfu-utils developer) : The number of shown partitions is hardcoded atm to DFU_NUM_ALTERNATES which is set to 6. So you last partition does not get shown increment it to seven in your board config and re-compile your u-boot and test again. Why not sqash factory+system partitions together as someone suggested in this thread? Here: setenv mtdpartsmtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0404(factory_system),0x0b6a(userdata) Cheers, -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
Hello. On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 01:13, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of Allah Hello Thanks have tried: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) Now printenv shows: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) but when want to try dfu-utils -l shows: Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name=u-boot Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=2, name=u-boot_env Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=4, name=splashHello. On Sun, 2012-01-22 at 01:13, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of Allah Hello Thanks have tried: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) Now printenv shows: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) but when want to try dfu-utils -l shows: Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name=u-boot Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=2, name=u-boot_env Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=4, name=splash Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=5, name=factory Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=system again there is no userdata Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=5, name=factory Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=system again there is no userdata On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 8:13 PM, Martin Jansa martin.ja...@gmail.comwrote: On Mon, Jan 23, 2012 at 08:07:15PM +0330, a dehqan wrote: In The Name Of Allah Hello This is answer of stefan schimdt (dfu-utils developer) : The number of shown partitions is hardcoded atm to DFU_NUM_ALTERNATES which is set to 6. So you last partition does not get shown increment it to seven in your board config and re-compile your u-boot and test again. Why not sqash factory+system partitions together as someone suggested in this thread? Here: setenv mtdpartsmtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0404(factory_system),0x0b6a(userdata) Cheers, -- Martin 'JaMa' Jansa jabber: martin.ja...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
In The Name Of Allah Hello Thanks have tried: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) Now printenv shows: mtdparts=mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor);neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) but when want to try dfu-utils -l shows: Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=1, name=u-boot Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=2, name=u-boot_env Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=3, name=kernel Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=4, name=splash Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=5, name=factory Found DFU: [0x1d50:0x5119] devnum=61, cfg=0, intf=0, alt=6, name=system again there is no userdata On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org wrote: El Thursday 19 January 2012 17:52:46 a dehqan va escriure: Thanks methink so Have installed uboot on NAND and have set enviroments on it , this is mtdparts output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G and this is printenv output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G But dfu-util -l http://pastebin.com/59fLK4GC does not show any userdata partition while it got system partition Have you tried to use diferent mtdparts while flashing? one like this for system: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system) and other like this for usedata: setenv mtdpartsmtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0404(factory_system),0x0b6a(userdata) and, if using uboot to start android, this other when all is flasshed: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
El Thursday 19 January 2012 17:52:46 a dehqan va escriure: Thanks methink so Have installed uboot on NAND and have set enviroments on it , this is mtdparts output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G and this is printenv output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G But dfu-util -l http://pastebin.com/59fLK4GC does not show any userdata partition while it got system partition Have you tried to use diferent mtdparts while flashing? one like this for system: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system) and other like this for usedata: setenv mtdpartsmtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0404(factory_system),0x0b6a(userdata) and, if using uboot to start android, this other when all is flasshed: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
the problem is that the bootloader of my fr is not compatible with fastboot but with dfu instead, the problem is that not all partitions defined trough u-boot are exported trough the dfu protocol, so the solution is to flash from android itself the remaining partition unfortunately the phone is armv4t so we must find a flasher binary for android or statically linked for armv4t,do you know one? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
Dnia 2012-01-20, pią o godzinie 16:41 +0330, a dehqan pisze: [cut] the problem is that not all partitions defined trough u-boot are exported trough the dfu protocol, [cut] Tormod Volden and Stefan Schmidt are actively developing dfu-util, but I am not sure if they are reading community ML. So it might be a good idea to ask about dfu-util related problems on de...@lists.openmoko.org . -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
+++ a dehqan [19/01/12 11:05 +0330]: My question was about installing android on NAND without uSD and Now Android comes up but becaue of lacking userdata partition can not download .apk and so ... could not create userdata partition because dfu error android on a freerunner needs an sdcard to work I believe. The recommended way to install it involves using an sdcard and it continues to use that after the first run flashes it to NAND. -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
please if you know just answer question nothing more ,thanks ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
Just read the instructions here http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/GetIt, here pasted: Partition and format the SD card For Android to work properly the Micro SD Card in your FreeRunner needs to have 2 primary partitions. The first needs to be a VFAT/MSDOS (16 or 32) partition which is used is mounted as '/sdcard', this is used as a storage area (for pictures, movies, music, etc). The second is an ext3 partition which Android mounts as '/data', this is where it stores settings, caches, etc. Experience has shown that sizing these at a ratio of 3 to 1 works best. So if you have a 4GB card make a 3GB vfat partition and a 1GB ext3 partion. Experience has also shown that it is best to delete all existing partitions and create new when installing a new build. *(This greatly helps the testing and bug fixing process).* Comprehensive information on partitioning and formatting your SD card can be found on the Openmoko Wiki.http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner#Preparing_the_SD_Card *Note* Users have reported that it is also possible to install Android by making a single partition formatted as VFAT/MSDOS On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 10:40 AM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: please if you know just answer question nothing more ,thanks AND BE KIND! we are not working FOR you :D d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
Thanks a lot for your attentions, but my question is not how to install android by using uSD Again my need is only the answer of question in my first post ,maybe should be repeated: Am trying to install android without uSD on NAND have flashed kernel,qi,system images into kernel,uboot,rootfs partitions but But Dfu-utils has not userdata altsetting . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
The answer is: it seems not to be possible. Try to ask also to the AoF community. hth d On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot for your attentions, but my question is not how to install android by using uSD Again my need is only the answer of question in my first post ,maybe should be repeated: Am trying to install android without uSD on NAND have flashed kernel,qi,system images into kernel,uboot,rootfs partitions but But Dfu-utils has not userdata altsetting . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
thanks AoF community. do they have mailing list ? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is: it seems not to be possible. Try to ask also to the AoF community. hth d On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot for your attentions, but my question is not how to install android by using uSD Again my need is only the answer of question in my first post ,maybe should be repeated: Am trying to install android without uSD on NAND have flashed kernel,qi,system images into kernel,uboot,rootfs partitions but But Dfu-utils has not userdata altsetting . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner On Thu, 2012-01-19 at 13:53 +0330, a dehqan wrote: thanks AoF community. do they have mailing list ? On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 1:48 PM, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: The answer is: it seems not to be possible. Try to ask also to the AoF community. hth d On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 11:15 AM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks a lot for your attentions, but my question is not how to install android by using uSD Again my need is only the answer of question in my first post ,maybe should be repeated: Am trying to install android without uSD on NAND have flashed kernel,qi,system images into kernel,uboot,rootfs partitions but But Dfu-utils has not userdata altsetting . Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
El Thursday 19 January 2012 08:35:24 a dehqan va escriure: My question was about installing android on NAND without uSD and Now Android comes up but becaue of lacking userdata partition can not download .apk and so ... could not create userdata partition because dfu error I think that the Uboot DFU protocol implementation (or dfu-util) has a maximun of 7 (1 ram 6 nand) downlad/upload positions harcoded. (I tested reading from diferent mtdparts configurations with nor uboot and Genady's one) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
Thanks methink so Have installed uboot on NAND and have set enviroments on it , this is mtdparts output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G and this is printenv output http://pastebin.com/E08fHr2G But dfu-util -l http://pastebin.com/59fLK4GC does not show any userdata partition while it got system partition On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Jose Luis Perez Diez jl...@escomposlinux.org wrote: El Thursday 19 January 2012 08:35:24 a dehqan va escriure: My question was about installing android on NAND without uSD and Now Android comes up but becaue of lacking userdata partition can not download .apk and so ... could not create userdata partition because dfu error I think that the Uboot DFU protocol implementation (or dfu-util) has a maximun of 7 (1 ram 6 nand) downlad/upload positions harcoded. (I tested reading from diferent mtdparts configurations with nor uboot and Genady's one) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:49:43 +0100 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: For Android to work properly the Micro SD Card in your FreeRunner needs to have 2 primary partitions. The first needs to be a VFAT/MSDOS (16 or 32) partition which is used is mounted as '/sdcard', this is used as a storage area (for pictures, movies, music, etc). The second is an ext3 partition which Android mounts as '/data', this is where it stores settings, caches, etc. Experience has shown that sizing these at a ratio of 3 to 1 works best. So if you have a 4GB card make a 3GB vfat partition and a 1GB ext3 partion. Interestingly my android install does not seem to use the ext3 partition - looks like I wasted some sdcard space making that? This is an install from ran's cupcake image:- # mount rootfs / rootfs ro 0 0 tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 tmpfs /sqlite_stmt_journals tmpfs rw,size=4096k 0 0 /dev/block/mtdblock6 /system jffs2 ro 0 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,fmask=,dmask=,allow_utime=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/block/mtdblock7 /data yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0 -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
On Thu, Jan 19, 2012 at 8:38 PM, dmatthews.org m...@dmatthews.org wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:49:43 +0100 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: For Android to work properly the Micro SD Card in your FreeRunner needs to have 2 primary partitions. The first needs to be a VFAT/MSDOS (16 or 32) partition which is used is mounted as '/sdcard', this is used as a storage area (for pictures, movies, music, etc). The second is an ext3 partition which Android mounts as '/data', this is where it stores settings, caches, etc. Experience has shown that sizing these at a ratio of 3 to 1 works best. So if you have a 4GB card make a 3GB vfat partition and a 1GB ext3 partion. Interestingly my android install does not seem to use the ext3 partition - looks like I wasted some sdcard space making that? This is an install from ran's cupcake image:- # mount rootfs / rootfs ro 0 0 tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw,mode=755 0 0 devpts /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=600 0 0 proc /proc proc rw 0 0 sysfs /sys sysfs rw 0 0 tmpfs /sqlite_stmt_journals tmpfs rw,size=4096k 0 0 /dev/block/mtdblock6 /system jffs2 ro 0 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0p1 /sdcard vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,fmask=,dmask=,allow_utime=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /dev/block/mtdblock7 /data yaffs2 rw,nosuid,nodev 0 0 I reply directly to you because our mate dehqan seems nervous... in http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/GetIt they write: *Note* Users have reported that it is also possible to install Android by making a single partition formatted as VFAT/MSDOS. I have no other ideas :P -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
In The Name of Allah Hello the problem is that the bootloader of my fr is not compatible with fastboot but with dfu instead, the problem is that not all partitions defined trough u-boot are exported trough the dfu protocol, so the solution is to flash from android itself the remaining partition unfortunately the phone is armv4t so we must find a flasher binary for android or statically linked for armv4t do you know one ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
question about installing android on FR
In The name Of Allah hello have set some enviroments in uboot that is on NAND: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) and this is result of mtdparts command http://pastebin.com/2hgCwDgz but when want to sudo dfu-util -a userdata -R -D userdata.img dfu says No such Alternate Setting: userdata how to fix it ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
From what I know, Android on the FR requires QI. Unless you have a specific reason not to use it, just go with that. Note that it has to be the QI from the AoF people as it changes the partition layout. On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 8:36 PM, a dehqan dehqa...@gmail.com wrote: In The name Of Allah hello have set some enviroments in uboot that is on NAND: setenv mtdparts mtdparts=physmap-flash:-(nor)\;neo1973-nand:0x0004(u-boot),0x0004(u-boot_env),0x0080(kernel),0x000a(splash),0x0004(factory),0x0400(system),0x0b6a(userdata) and this is result of mtdparts command http://pastebin.com/2hgCwDgz but when want to sudo dfu-util -a userdata -R -D userdata.img dfu says No such Alternate Setting: userdata how to fix it ? Regards dehqan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: question about installing android on FR
My question was about installing android on NAND without uSD and Now Android comes up but becaue of lacking userdata partition can not download .apk and so ... could not create userdata partition because dfu error ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android standby time
Rashid ras...@milacom.de writes: What is exactly standby? You probably want to suspend. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android standby time
yes. anyone has some data more detailed data about it? Am Montag, den 27.12.2010, 12:00 +0100 schrieb community-requ...@lists.openmoko.org: Re: Android standby time ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android on freerunner useable as daily phone?
Hi, I am using Android on Freerunner cupcake as daily phone without problems; my version is 20100130 (released on 30th gen 2010), is a bit bugged but has no important problem, the main defect is with mp4 and youtube player. Bettery life is around 12-14h in standby and about 8h with some calls (without #1024 fix); also, wifi takes a lot of battery (about 4h with wifi on and no standby). On the other hand, i can use market and a lot of apps ;) mp3, gps, sms and calls work good, but video player (as i said before) has some problem. I hope this can help you. Bye, Sanvy PS: sorry if i will not reply for some days, but i'll leave city for holiday and i'll have no internet connection. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android standby time
What is exactly standby? Disabled gps, bluetooth, wifi, locked screen and a powered off display? Can you receive calls and sms in this mode? In QtMoko I have around 1 day and a few hours standy time... do you know if android on freerunner is going to improve its battery life? I read disabling widgets (drains power from cpu even in stand by) helps. Did you do it? Greetz rashid Hi, I am using Android on Freerunner cupcake as daily phone without problems; my version is 20100130 (released on 30th gen 2010), is a bit bugged but has no important problem, the main defect is with mp4 and youtube player. Bettery life is around 12-14h in standby and about 8h with some calls (without #1024 fix); also, wifi takes a lot of battery (about 4h with wifi on and no standby). On the other hand, i can use market and a lot of apps ;) mp3, gps, sms and calls work good, but video player (as i said before) has some problem. I hope this can help you. Bye, Sanvy PS: sorry if i will not reply for some days, but i'll leave city for holiday and i'll have no internet connection. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android on freerunner useable as daily phone?
Hi im currently using qtmoko and im quite happy, there are just a few annoying bugs. Is android useable as a daily phone? Does it miss calls /sms? Is the audio quality ok? How long does a A7 phone can stay on power without recharging (battery life) in different use cases (talking, gps, idle with little talks, mp3 / video player)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
My gf runs Froyo on her Geeksphone. It has definitely more powerful hardware than FR but it is defeinitely /not/ 1GHz. It is around ~500MHz, and no 3d acceleration because the hardware vendor refused to deploy 3d firmware in an open device. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Serdar Dere ser...@serdar-dere.net wrote: Who asked my images are not real?? ;) The problem is, that Froyo ARMv5 optimized but not for ARMv4, that makes it hard for us. The other problem is, that Jim Ancona is our only developer. We are looking for developers. Everybody is welcomed to help (contribute, test etc.) MfG Serdar Am 03.09.10 11:12, schrieb Steven Le Roux: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiyprishe...@gmail.com wrote: Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/http://serdar-dere.net/%7Eserdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
With usual linux, i can say 'do profiling, find out what is really so slow and optimize critical places'. And I know what tools to use to each task. But with android... Same, but how to profile? how to compile? how to communicate, etc. Gennady. В Вск, 07/11/2010 в 20:15 +0100, Atilla Filiz пишет: My gf runs Froyo on her Geeksphone. It has definitely more powerful hardware than FR but it is defeinitely /not/ 1GHz. It is around ~500MHz, and no 3d acceleration because the hardware vendor refused to deploy 3d firmware in an open device. On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Serdar Dere ser...@serdar-dere.net wrote: Who asked my images are not real?? ;) The problem is, that Froyo ARMv5 optimized but not for ARMv4, that makes it hard for us. The other problem is, that Jim Ancona is our only developer. We are looking for developers. Everybody is welcomed to help (contribute, test etc.) MfG Serdar Am 03.09.10 11:12, schrieb Steven Le Roux: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiyprishe...@gmail.com wrote: Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barroda...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiy prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Steven Le Roux Jabber-ID : ste...@jabber.fr 0x39494CCB ste...@le-roux.info 2FF7 226B 552E 4709 03F0 6281 72D7 A010 3949 4CCB ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
Who asked my images are not real?? ;) The problem is, that Froyo ARMv5 optimized but not for ARMv4, that makes it hard for us. The other problem is, that Jim Ancona is our only developer. We are looking for developers. Everybody is welcomed to help (contribute, test etc.) MfG Serdar Am 03.09.10 11:12, schrieb Steven Le Roux: On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 12:48 AM, Leonty Belskiyprishe...@gmail.com wrote: Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? It's fast on a 1GHz processor with at least 512MB RAM and hardware acceleration of OpenGL, etc... V8 is embedded, but if you can't even run webkit... ;) I it faster than Cupcake? It's relative to the device. If a device have capabilities to run froyo, so yes it will be faster. But froyo won't run on the most lightweigh devices. And android 3 will run on devices with at least 2Ghz processor, etc... -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZthomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barroda...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
Is'n Froyo supposed to be super-fast? I it faster than Cupcake? -- Leonty On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 5:55 PM, Thomas HOCEDEZ thomas.hoce...@free.fr wrote: Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.comwrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/http://serdar-dere.net/%7Eserdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
Le 01/09/2010 14:31, Atilla Filiz a écrit : AFAIK Serdar Dere is actively developing Android for FR, so I am sure the images are real. How (close to being)usable they are, that is to wonder. On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:06 PM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com mailto:da...@garabana.com wrote: On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ http://serdar-dere.net/%7Eserdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) Hi ! Of course the images are real (those 7Mo!). I flashed my FR with it, it boots, starts, and ... Worked ! Ok you have to be Really patient because of the slowlyness of the interface, but everything works ! -- Thomas HOCEDEZ / Asthro, Openmoko-fr.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 11:42 AM, David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I found this thread. http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner/browse_thread/thread/a3186760922768fe/d73059e07508e7d2?lnk=gstq=froyo#d73059e07508e7d2 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Cheers Jan signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Froyo (Android 2.2) on Freerunner????
On Thursday 05 August 2010 16:52:24 Jan Girlich wrote: Am Donnerstag, den 05.08.2010, 16:42 +0200 schrieb David Garabana Barro: http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ Are these images real? Are there Android 2.2 images for Freeruner? I doubt these images are of any use (yet). Look at the filesizes. They're just about 7MB, way too small for a real image. Yes, but first one size is 67 MB. On the thread Nelson posted minutes ago, you can see they are real, but they only compile and boot. Not useful by the moment :) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android: can't connect to adb
On Saturday 08 May 2010 04:32:22 Leonti Bielski wrote: To summarize - I get a couple of seconds of using the ADB before connection is lost again :( Has anyone experienced this weird problem? Just general help: - Try another cable - Try another USB port - USB ports soldered on motherboard work better. Maybe it helps, Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android: can't connect to adb
you didn't forget enabling usb debugging? Greetings Serdar Am 10.05.10 08:40, schrieb Radek Polak: On Saturday 08 May 2010 04:32:22 Leonti Bielski wrote: To summarize - I get a couple of seconds of using the ADB before connection is lost again :( Has anyone experienced this weird problem? Just general help: - Try another cable - Try another USB port - USB ports soldered on motherboard work better. Maybe it helps, Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android: can't connect to adb
Hello! I've just installed Android 0.2.0RC1 from: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/downloads/list I can ping 192.168.0.202 alright. I enabled adb access on the phone using the guide: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidDebugBridge But when I run: ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices List of devices attached List is empty. Are there any additional steps to get ADB working? Thanks, Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android: can't connect to adb
I'm taking my words back about good ping to 192.168.0.202 :( Turns out the connection is extremely unstable. I can ping the phone just after I connect to it or reconnect the cable. I get a couple of pings and than Destination Host Unreachable. For example: From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=5 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=6 Destination Host Unreachable 64 bytes from 192.168.0.202: icmp_seq=16 ttl=64 time=5.20 ms From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=70 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=71 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=72 Destination Host Unreachable From 192.168.0.200 icmp_seq=73 Destination Host Unreachable That time when I received data from phone I replugged the cable. To summarize - I get a couple of seconds of using the ADB before connection is lost again :( Has anyone experienced this weird problem? Leonti On Sat, May 8, 2010 at 2:34 AM, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! I've just installed Android 0.2.0RC1 from: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/downloads/list I can ping 192.168.0.202 alright. I enabled adb access on the phone using the guide: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/AndroidDebugBridge But when I run: ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 adb devices List of devices attached List is empty. Are there any additional steps to get ADB working? Thanks, Leonti ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 4:05 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. You may be able to partition your SD card so that Android can find a FAT partition, yet you can still boot Debian from a different ext3 partition. I'm not sure off hand how to do it, but I'd be surprised if it's not possible. Jim ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
By using Android as my daily phone on my FreeRunner I have noticed that there are just three problems that still need to be fixed: 1. Microphone volume: sometimes it is too low and people can't listen my voice. 2. Speakers: when I activate the speakers during a call the other person listen his voice back. 3. Sometimes it get frozen, especially when a lot of applications are running (not enought resources?) Emanuele On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
1 doesn't happen to me (yet) 2 didn't try 3 i agree. the problem there is that you can't kill the app when you finish using it, therefore when many programs are running, there's not enough memory. I've red that ES File Explorer is able to kill the applications, but i didn't try yet. You can find it here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/Applications urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:29:23 +0200, Emanuele Leomanni emanuele...@gmail.com wrote: By using Android as my daily phone on my FreeRunner I have noticed that there are just three problems that still need to be fixed: 1. Microphone volume: sometimes it is too low and people can't listen my voice. 2. Speakers: when I activate the speakers during a call the other person listen his voice back. 3. Sometimes it get frozen, especially when a lot of applications are running (not enought resources?) Emanuele On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM, urodelo urodelomuta...@yahoo.com wrote: The volume is fine. Although I usually don't get much calls, I think the voice it's quite clear too. About the battery, well I have the impression that mine doesn't last for a long time, maybe due to my behaviour, cause when at home I often stop the suspend and keep the phone under charge. It has happened that the phone got frozen after suspending a couple of times, but recently I didn't experiment it again. urodelo On Sun, 25 Apr 2010 03:10:38 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Creato con il rivoluzionario client e-mail di Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
Another issues related to the battery is that, as far as I remember, for #1024 fixed phones deep sleep does not work since the option is disabled and can not be enabled through config files or others. That might be another reason for shorter battery time compared to SHR or qtmoko. But correct me if I am wrong. On 4/25/10, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Is it possible at all to run Android from SD card? I want to have SHR in NAND and Android in SD just for testing my programs. Thanks! Leonti On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:59 PM, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Jim Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Neil Jerram wrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil I had similar reasons to try Android - another being is the browser ;-) You can use an SD only version, which is documented in this thread [1] and mirrored here [2]. I have _normal_ Qi as bootloader and Android + SHR on my SD which looks like this: p[FAT, for Android data] p[ext3, Androit rootfs] p[ext3, SHR rootfs] e[ext3 data] e[swap] NAND holds an SHR-U of known state that is functional for basic calling - just in case... What I really miss though are easy updates for Android on SD. Cheers, Christian [1] http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/android/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Hey, does this flashing work without SD? http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions See #1. Greetings, Kai Christian Rüb schrieb: Neil Jerram wrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil I had similar reasons to try Android - another being is the browser ;-) You can use an SD only version, which is documented in this thread [1] and mirrored here [2]. I have _normal_ Qi as bootloader and Android + SHR on my SD which looks like this: p[FAT, for Android data] p[ext3, Androit rootfs] p[ext3, SHR rootfs] e[ext3 data] e[swap] NAND holds an SHR-U of known state that is functional for basic calling - just in case... What I really miss though are easy updates for Android on SD. Cheers, Christian [1] http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/android/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
Yeah, it works with 0.2.0 RC1: Download the zip-file unzip the contents. Run the following dfu-util commands: dfu-util -a kernel -R -D kernel.img dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D system.img dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.img I have no inserted SD. The first boot does not work, so restart. Great thanks! Kai Kai Lüke schrieb: Hey, does this flashing work without SD? http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions See #1. Greetings, Kai Christian Rüb schrieb: Neil Jerram wrote: On 24 April 2010 21:59, James Ancona j...@anconafamily.com wrote: The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Yes thanks, it does. It tells me that I can't switch between Debian and Android completely seamlessly - but that I can at least do it by swapping SD cards. Which is probably OK for now. FWIW, my reason for asking is that I'm now hoping to find something a bit more swishy and impressive than just basic phone function. Debian has been fine for me for basic phone function for some time now, and I expect to keep that as my mainstay. But I'd love to be able to demonstrate how cool the FR is by saying but look, it can also run Android, here Regards, Neil I had similar reasons to try Android - another being is the browser ;-) You can use an SD only version, which is documented in this thread [1] and mirrored here [2]. I have _normal_ Qi as bootloader and Android + SHR on my SD which looks like this: p[FAT, for Android data] p[ext3, Androit rootfs] p[ext3, SHR rootfs] e[ext3 data] e[swap] NAND holds an SHR-U of known state that is functional for basic calling - just in case... What I really miss though are easy updates for Android on SD. Cheers, Christian [1] http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/issues/detail?id=7 [2] http://openmoko.senfdax.de/android/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Two queries about Android installation
I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community I am sure that android installs some system files on the sd, so you need a sd card to boon android also after first installation. Usually the best choice for android is to have 2 partitions: one for android system files and another for your datas. what i'm looking for is quite the same... a way to use andorid and shr... i think it's just necessary to partition correctly the sd, but I have no idea how... hints welcome d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 14:05, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... You can find detailed info on the subject here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ -- Cheers, Alex ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On 24 April 2010 14:27, Alexander Shulgin alex.shul...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 14:05, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.com wrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... You can find detailed info on the subject here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Of course I already looked there. The questions that I asked here are the ones remaining after I had read that information. If you think my questions are answered on that site, can you please point out the specific location? Thanks, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Two queries about Android installation
I'm interested in taking a look at Android... You can find detailed info on the subject here: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/ Of course I already looked there. The questions that I asked here are the ones remaining after I had read that information. If you think my questions are answered on that site, can you please point out the specific location? If you want to talk to the AoF community you can always try the mailinglist: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner _ Windows 7: helpt je meer voor elkaar te krijgen. http://windows.microsoft.com/nl-BE/windows7/products/home?os=win7 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:59 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. it's needed also after. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? yes, i tried it some time ago... but you have to switch sd (and that it's what i'm trying to avoid :) ) Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Two queries about Android installation
On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 6:59 AM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote: I'm interested in taking a look at Android... 1. The installation instructions seem to involve both a full SD card (which will be completely overwritten) and flashing the NAND. What I don't understand is whether the SD card is only needed during installation, or if the same SD card needs to stay in the phone afterwards, when booting Android from NAND. The installer puts all of Android in NAND. After installation the SD card is only used for extra storage (web downloads, media, etc.) Any FAT formatted SD card will do. You can run with no SD card in there, but as I recall, some things don't work. 2. I understand that the Android installation flashes a modified version of the Qi bootloader. Can this modified version still boot other distributions, in particular Debian? It should boot other distributions from SD. The modification is because Andoid uses a different NAND partition layout. If you want to replace Android with a different distribution in NAND, you should reflash Qi. Hope that helps! Jim Basically the situation is that I want to keep Debian (on SD) as my main distribution, but have Android in NAND for trying out. I have another SD card (512Mb) that I can use just for the Android install, but after that I'd like to put the Debian SD card back in. Thanks for any answers and advice! Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Android status as a daily phone
Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Android status as a daily phone
Thanks urodelo. What about the listen volume? And about hibernation? Is the energy saver working as it should? I mean the phone can sleep and wake without problems? Denis. On 24/04/2010, at 21:44, urodelo wrote: I've it on my fr since some months. The version I use is 1.5. I can use it as daily phone. it's stable. I've just installed few applications, and except some occasional freeze, I'm not experimenting any special problem. However, I find there aren't many interesting applications available (for my taste), not like in shr. Moreover, its difficult to do every little change in the system. But if you just want to use it as mobile phone, i think it's ok. I didn't test gps and bluetooth yet, I assume they work. Wifi works very well, it automatically reconnects if i go out of range for some time. I've it on nand; booting it can sometimes be a challenge, if your finger isn't quick enough, especially if you have just opened your eyes after a deep sleep. ByeZ urodelo On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 23:59:36 +0200, Denis Galvão - Gmail denisgal...@gmail.com wrote: Im out for a long period... What is the most recent status of Freerunner Android as a daily phone? I''ll try it again on monday, and would love some feedback from Android users out there. Thanks, Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
On 4/4/10, Niels Heyvaert nielsheyva...@hotmail.com wrote: I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. It seams like the Dialer will do this, if left unclosed. I'm not sure. It seems you're doing something ugly wrong. The user is not doing anything wrong, Google is. This is because of how Android handles closing applications. When you close an app, it disappears from your desktop, but the application keeps running. Thanks Niels. I don't care *who* does something wrong. I just search for a way to use Neo as an ordinary phone (not missing any call/SMS) first. Someone might tell me that I do wrong using a phone instead of face to face communication :). It may be true from a point of view. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
On 4/1/10, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.pl wrote: [cut] Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it. In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery. I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. It seams like the Dialer will do this, if left unclosed. I'm not sure. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
[cut] I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. It seams like the Dialer will do this, if left unclosed. I'm not sure. It seems you're doing something ugly wrong. I'm using it with SHR and its working just fine. Runtime: More then a day. If you have it in proper suspend, while not using it. greatings leviathan -- David Lanzendörfer OpenSourceSupport GmbH System engineer and supporter signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. It seams like the Dialer will do this, if left unclosed. I'm not sure. It seems you're doing something ugly wrong. I'm using it with SHR and its working just fine. Runtime: More then a day. If you have it in proper suspend, while not using it. The user is not doing anything wrong, Google is. This is because of how Android handles closing applications. When you close an app, it disappears from your desktop, but the application keeps running. This eventually results in running out of memory and wake-up interupts from suspend while in fact you don't have any app open (at least, that's what you think). This is broken by design. Blame Google. The community has developed tools to list all your running apps with the option to kill them individually. So there are ways to work around this. Niels. _ Surf veilig : download Internet Explorer 8 http://www.microsoft.com/belux/nl/windows/internet-explorer/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Martin Šenkeřík martinsenke...@gmail.com wrote: I can recomend you android. I was looking for reliable phone, I tried everything, and my last try - android is total winner. Give it a try. Thanks. It looks much faster and nicer then what I've tried so far. It's too soon to talk about how stable it is. Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it. In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Is Neo Freerunner a phone? (with Android)
[cut] Last night it just keep charging. It was on 100%, so I just unplug it. In the morning, when I connected the charger, it booted (?!). I checked the battery level and it was 4%. Next time I'll try to use Cleanoid to see if it still drain the battery. I am afraid it is still draining the battery. I can use my FR for about 8~10 hours with Android - current featured release. -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Android] linphone SIP client released for Android
It uses the NDK to make a native liblinphone.so to handle the SIP side of things. Unfortunately for us the NDK produces armv5te binaries. Does anyone know how to get it to make armv4t binaries so we could use it? Re: [Linphone-users] [Release] Linphone on Android From: Simon Morlat simon.mor...@linphone.org To: linphone-us...@nongnu.org linphone-us...@nongnu.org CC: linphone-develop...@nongnu.org linphone-develop...@nongnu.org Many of you legitimely asked for the source of the linphone-android frontend. Here is the git url: git clone git://git.linphone.org/linphone-android.git git clone http://git.linphone.org/git/linphone-android.git Of course it is GPL. This git tree contains a liblinphone.so for ARM EABI built over NDK 1.6. As the source code is evolving fast, we think git access is probably the most efficient way to have up to date sources. Simon Le lundi 22 mars 2010 à 21:07 +0100, Simon Morlat a écrit : Hi, Since today it is now possible to run linphone on its Android mobile phone ! We've just released a version for Google Android. We have tested it on G1 and Nexus 1 with success. If you are subscribed to a VoIP to PSTN service, you can then make wifi or 3G audio calls (make sure it is permitted by your 3G operator first). See the full news: http://www.linphone.org/index.php/eng/linphone_on_android It's a first release, so bugs are possible... You can use this mailing list to report them. An adb logcat dump can help in solving it. Simon ___ Linphone-users mailing list linphone-us...@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: problems getting android to run
Any hints / suggestions? Hi yoyo, You could consider posting your AoF related questions on the AoF mailing list: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner Niels. _ Lentekriebels? Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
problems getting android to run
Hi, I was trying to get adnroid running on my freerunner... I first tried the automated install (i put it o a fat-only sd, and then also on one with exactly one fat and one ext2 partition...) It booted, installed qi then showed a white screen and rebooted, the red led blinked (might be that it blinked multiple times very fast, hard to say..), vibrated and then stayed on the white screen The blink of the red led was shorter then a normal boot (I put in a sd card with shr on it and it booted ok, the red led blinked shortly (presumably for the first FAT partition) and then lighted-up for a longer time before the kernel came up...) I tried flashing the kernel and rootfs manualy through dfu-util (kernel.img and system.img, though I am not really sure if these are the right files...), but it seems that qi can't boot it. When trying without a sd card the red led lights up (for a longer time, like when I was able to boot shr from sd), it vibrates shortly 2 times and nothing else happens... With a sd card without a usable system, it just blinks and vibrates. The same happens, when I flash a shr kernel and rootfs to the neo, so it seems to be a qi problem... (NOR u-boot boots the shr kernel just fine..., gets a CRC error on the android kernel, which is what I expected...) Then I tried loading the kernel through dfu-util directly to memory and booting it, this booted the kernel, displayed a logo and stayed there... Is there any way to disable the logo / enable some debug output to see what is going on? I tried android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.2.0-RC1.tar.gz and also android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20100214.tar.bz2 and android-on-freerunner-master-daily-20100210.tar.bz2 from http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ the master branch doesn't have the logo, so it shows a lot of output, I saw a lot of nand_read_bbt: bad block... mesasges, though if I boot up shr, I can mount and use the mtd partition without problems... (or if I flash and run SHR from nand...) the last screenfull of messages looked like: init: cannot find '/system/bin/ifconfig', disabling 'usb-ether' init: command 'class_start' r=0 init: processing action 0x37c20 (boot) init: command 'mount' r=0 a lot of init: command 'chown' r=0 and 'setprop' r=0 ... init: processing action 0x34e40 (property: persist.service.adb.enable=1) init: starting adbd init: command 'start' r =0 s3c-ohci s3c-ohci: susped root hub and that it stayed there... Btw, for any it stayed there I usually went doing another things and left it few times for even an hour... So I guess it certainly wasn't doing anything... ;) Any hints / suggestions? yoyo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems getting android to run
Hi Jozef, how did you tried it? here is a short review: unpack contents of tar.gz to fat run nor boot from micro sd that should work -- flashing kernel.img to kernel and system.img to rootfs should also work (if you are able to use usb cable to flash) master/eclair is experimental if you want to try you can do it. Useing only sd for booting should work too, there must be an issue at googlecodes. We are trying to think a new solution of the installer so we can use every qi we want and not reflash it everytime Greetings Serdar Am 19.02.10 23:28, schrieb Jozef Siska: Hi, I was trying to get adnroid running on my freerunner... I first tried the automated install (i put it o a fat-only sd, and then also on one with exactly one fat and one ext2 partition...) It booted, installed qi then showed a white screen and rebooted, the red led blinked (might be that it blinked multiple times very fast, hard to say..), vibrated and then stayed on the white screen The blink of the red led was shorter then a normal boot (I put in a sd card with shr on it and it booted ok, the red led blinked shortly (presumably for the first FAT partition) and then lighted-up for a longer time before the kernel came up...) I tried flashing the kernel and rootfs manualy through dfu-util (kernel.img and system.img, though I am not really sure if these are the right files...), but it seems that qi can't boot it. When trying without a sd card the red led lights up (for a longer time, like when I was able to boot shr from sd), it vibrates shortly 2 times and nothing else happens... With a sd card without a usable system, it just blinks and vibrates. The same happens, when I flash a shr kernel and rootfs to the neo, so it seems to be a qi problem... (NOR u-boot boots the shr kernel just fine..., gets a CRC error on the android kernel, which is what I expected...) Then I tried loading the kernel through dfu-util directly to memory and booting it, this booted the kernel, displayed a logo and stayed there... Is there any way to disable the logo / enable some debug output to see what is going on? I tried android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.2.0-RC1.tar.gz and also android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20100214.tar.bz2 and android-on-freerunner-master-daily-20100210.tar.bz2 from http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/ the master branch doesn't have the logo, so it shows a lot of output, I saw a lot of nand_read_bbt: bad block... mesasges, though if I boot up shr, I can mount and use the mtd partition without problems... (or if I flash and run SHR from nand...) the last screenfull of messages looked like: init: cannot find '/system/bin/ifconfig', disabling 'usb-ether' init: command 'class_start' r=0 init: processing action 0x37c20 (boot) init: command 'mount' r=0 a lot of init: command 'chown' r=0 and 'setprop' r=0 ... init: processing action 0x34e40 (property: persist.service.adb.enable=1) init: starting adbd init: command 'start' r =0 s3c-ohci s3c-ohci: susped root hub and that it stayed there... Btw, for any it stayed there I usually went doing another things and left it few times for even an hour... So I guess it certainly wasn't doing anything... ;) Any hints / suggestions? yoyo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: problems getting android to run
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 01:23:38AM +0100, Serdar Dere wrote:
Hi Jozef,
how did you tried it?
here is a short review:
unpack contents of tar.gz to fat
run nor
boot from micro sd
that should work
--
yes, I put the files on a fat (i tried a sd card with a single fat
partition and another with a fat and an ext2 partition),
then booted it through NOR u-boot, it started, installed qi, rebooted
and got stuck at the white screen...
it seems that qi cannot load the kernel from nand or something like
that, because it can start SHR I have on an sd card...
flashing kernel.img to kernel and system.img to rootfs should also work
(if you are able to use usb cable to flash)
I tried that, but still qi can't load/start the kernel...
I wanted to at least try it, so I booted the kernel by starting NOR u-boot,
using dfu-util to upload the kernel to memory and booting it with uboot:
dfu-util -a 0 -D kernel.img -R
and then in uboot:
setenv bootargs ${bootargs_base} rootdelay=5 ${mtdparts} ro loglevel=8; bootm
0x3200
(I used that some time ago to boot some of the first versions of
andoroid, as I didn't want to replace u-boot at that time ;)
This started the kernel, displayed the android/freerunner logo and
didn't go any further...
so I tried master, because that doesn't have the logo, booted it in the
same way and it stopped with the output I wrote in the original mail...
yoyo
master/eclair is experimental if you want to try you can do it.
Useing only sd for booting should work too, there must be an issue at
googlecodes.
We are trying to think a new solution of the installer so we can use
every qi we want and not reflash it everytime
Greetings Serdar
Am 19.02.10 23:28, schrieb Jozef Siska:
Hi,
I was trying to get adnroid running on my freerunner...
I first tried the automated install (i put it o a fat-only sd, and then
also on one with exactly one fat and one ext2 partition...)
It booted, installed qi then showed a white screen and rebooted, the red
led blinked (might be that it blinked multiple times very fast, hard to
say..), vibrated and then stayed on the white screen
The blink of the red led was shorter then a normal boot (I put
in a sd card with shr on it and it booted ok, the red led blinked
shortly (presumably for the first FAT partition) and then lighted-up for
a longer time before the kernel came up...)
I tried flashing the kernel and rootfs manualy through dfu-util
(kernel.img and system.img, though I am not really sure if these are the
right files...), but it seems that qi can't boot it.
When trying without a sd card the red led lights up (for a longer time,
like when I was able to boot shr from sd), it vibrates shortly 2 times
and nothing else happens...
With a sd card without a usable system, it just blinks and vibrates.
The same happens, when I flash a shr kernel and rootfs to the neo, so it
seems to be a qi problem... (NOR u-boot boots the shr kernel just
fine..., gets a CRC error on the android kernel, which is what I
expected...)
Then I tried loading the kernel through dfu-util directly to memory and
booting it, this booted the kernel, displayed a logo and stayed
there...
Is there any way to disable the logo / enable some debug output to see
what is going on?
I tried android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.2.0-RC1.tar.gz
and also
android-on-freerunner-cupcake-daily-20100214.tar.bz2
and
android-on-freerunner-master-daily-20100210.tar.bz2
from http://serdar-dere.net/~serdar/daily/
the master branch doesn't have the logo, so it shows a lot of output,
I saw a lot of nand_read_bbt: bad block... mesasges, though if I boot
up shr, I can mount and use the mtd partition without problems...
(or if I flash and run SHR from nand...)
the last screenfull of messages looked like:
init: cannot find '/system/bin/ifconfig', disabling 'usb-ether'
init: command 'class_start' r=0
init: processing action 0x37c20 (boot)
init: command 'mount' r=0
a lot of
init: command 'chown' r=0
and 'setprop' r=0
...
init: processing action 0x34e40 (property: persist.service.adb.enable=1)
init: starting adbd
init: command 'start' r =0
s3c-ohci s3c-ohci: susped root hub
and that it stayed there...
Btw, for any it stayed there I usually went doing another things and
left it few times for even an hour... So I guess it certainly wasn't
doing anything... ;)
Any hints / suggestions?
yoyo
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code exchange neo1973 with android ?
There is a cheap Android smartphone on the market --- Processor: Samsung S3C2448 400Mhz ·Operating system: Google Android ·Network: GSM900/DCS1800 or GSM850/DCS1900, GPRS Class 10 ·Display: 2.8” TFT-LCD with QVGA (320x240) flat touch-sensitive screen ·Camera: 2.0-mega-piexel CMOS ·Memory: 128MB(ROM), 128MB(RAM), 1GB microSD? memory card(up to 8GB) ·Connectivity: Bluetooth, Wi-Fi 802.11b/g --- http://www.jiongtang.com/shop/sciphone-n19-android-400mhz-cpu-2mp-camera-wifi-bluetooth-p-101.html at least it is told to be readily usable phone and it costs much less than $500 that FreeRunner would cost in Russia :-) unbranded it seems to be Beyond-Radio.com one http://www.clonedinchina.com/2009/07/chinas-first-android-phone-comes-out-from-beyond-radio-tech.html the problem is that chinese cheap goods comes with no after-sale support, no updates, etc so if unofficial self-contained firmware project can be made - the phone definetly is interesting to buy If not, if take what we made and bear with it - then it is not insteresting thing, though it's a pity Alas, SciPhones sales manager knows nothign about software and developers (or at least are ordered to tell so) Alas, Beyond-Radio e-mail is dead And here comes the surprise - http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-579098.html Some code is taken/derives from neo1973 What might it seems ? * the person, who ported Android onto that phone was one of Moko hackers and put his experience with Moko code inside ? Maybe you know him ? * that is common case of code exchanges between Android and Moko and means nothing ? * that phone just has [mostly] the same hardware as Neo1973 ? I wonder if you know any clues to unbox the firmware (currently some bootloaders told to work, some not, so at least there are sailing the phone with two different versions of firmware) and easier make custom android upgrades (bootlloader, drivers, upgrade/recovery methods). I wonder if that phone may potentialyl be some fun for you to port OpenMoko to :-) Sorry, for those, to whome this post would be just spam :-( -- Написано в почтовом клиенте браузера Opera: http://www.opera.com/mail/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Android] Help needed: adb, WiFi and terminal
Hello fellow Openmokonians, I recently installed Android on my FR, and so far I am very pleased with it's performance. Sadly I am having some problems: 1.: I have trouble connecting my Android to Ubuntu Karmic. This is what I do when I try to connect it: -boot Ubuntu -connect my FR to the computer via USB -I use Qi, so it boots automatically when I connect it with USB I once (the first time) got a Network-Manager notifier when I connected, but since then I've not seen the device anywhere but in lsusb (not in ifconfig -a, Network-Manager or Wicd). Any suggestions as of what I am doing wrong? 2.: WiFi problems! I've always had WiFi problems on every wireless device I've owned, so I'm quite used to it. It says it's connected after I've selected my AP and entered my passkey, but no network traffic whatsoever. Do I need to enable/disable something? 3.: I'd very much like to use the built-in terminal emulator, but I can't submit the command (pressing enter doesn't work). Any obvious tricks I've missed here? Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Help needed: adb, WiFi and terminal
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Åsmund Stavdahl smu...@gmail.com wrote: Hello fellow Openmokonians, I recently installed Android on my FR, and so far I am very pleased with it's performance. Sadly I am having some problems: 1.: I have trouble connecting my Android to Ubuntu Karmic. This is what I do when I try to connect it: -boot Ubuntu -connect my FR to the computer via USB -I use Qi, so it boots automatically when I connect it with USB I once (the first time) got a Network-Manager notifier when I connected, but since then I've not seen the device anywhere but in lsusb (not in ifconfig -a, Network-Manager or Wicd). Any suggestions as of what I am doing wrong? 2.: WiFi problems! I've always had WiFi problems on every wireless device I've owned, so I'm quite used to it. It says it's connected after I've selected my AP and entered my passkey, but no network traffic whatsoever. Do I need to enable/disable something? What version of Android have you installed? How is your AP configured? (WEP, WPA, etc.) Do you have MAC-based access control on your AP? 3.: I'd very much like to use the built-in terminal emulator, but I can't submit the command (pressing enter doesn't work). Any obvious tricks I've missed here? You may have better luck asking your questions on the android-on-freerunner mailing list at: http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner You might also check the FAQ at: http://code.google.com/p/android-on-freerunner/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions or the suuport page on the same site. Jim Thanks in advance ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
daniel.l.sta...@gmail.comDate: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:15:38 -0500To: community@lists.openmoko.orgSubject: Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-imageHowever, it seems that the LEDs don't turn off when they should...is anyone else experiencing this?You could consider asking your question to the Android on Freerunner community at http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunnerNiels. _ Lentekriebels? Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
Dnia 2009-12-30, śro o godzinie 01:35 -0800, ghislain pisze: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 Android-Cupcake-V22 . [cut] Hi Ghislain, does this installer includes FCSE patches from ARM ML, recently added by Michael Trimarchi? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
Patryk, I don't know, its the last one from Michael with the leds-fixes. Ghislain Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2009-12-30, śro o godzinie 01:35 -0800, ghislain pisze: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 Android-Cupcake-V22 . [cut] Hi Ghislain, does this installer includes FCSE patches from ARM ML, recently added by Michael Trimarchi? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-Android-Cupcake-V22-installer-image-tp4231575p4237168.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
So far I really like android! However, it seems that the LEDs don't turn off when they should...is anyone else experiencing this? -Dan Staley On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote: Patryk, I don't know, its the last one from Michael with the leds-fixes. Ghislain Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2009-12-30, śro o godzinie 01:35 -0800, ghislain pisze: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 Android-Cupcake-V22 . [cut] Hi Ghislain, does this installer includes FCSE patches from ARM ML, recently added by Michael Trimarchi? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-Android-Cupcake-V22-installer-image-tp4231575p4237168.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
Is it possible to install it on the sd? thanks (btw: tried the latest android from community and was great, but i want to keep my shr-t on nand) d On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 7:15 PM, Dan Staley daniel.l.sta...@gmail.comwrote: So far I really like android! However, it seems that the LEDs don't turn off when they should...is anyone else experiencing this? -Dan Staley On Thu, Dec 31, 2009 at 12:34 PM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote: Patryk, I don't know, its the last one from Michael with the leds-fixes. Ghislain Patryk Benderz wrote: Dnia 2009-12-30, śro o godzinie 01:35 -0800, ghislain pisze: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 Android-Cupcake-V22 . [cut] Hi Ghislain, does this installer includes FCSE patches from ARM ML, recently added by Michael Trimarchi? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-Android-Cupcake-V22-installer-image-tp4231575p4237168.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 Android-Cupcake-V22 . Just follow the instructions of the readme.txt contained in the zip-file. Regards, Ghislain van der Steen http://www.basetrend.nl BaseTrend - http://www.openmobile.nl openmobile.nl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-Android-Cupcake-V22-installer-image-tp4231575p4231575.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Android] Android Cupcake V22 installer-image
Thanks for these installer images (For Android and QtMoko). It has convinced me to start trying some of the other distros other than SHR. Android appears to have really come along since I last played with it! Thanks again, -Dan Staley On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 4:35 AM, ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl wrote: http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Penguin Embedded has created a new version of Android Cupcake. I've created an installer-image for it, it can be dowloaded here: http://www.openmobile.nl/pages/downloads.php#av22 Android-Cupcake-V22 . Just follow the instructions of the readme.txt contained in the zip-file. Regards, Ghislain van der Steen http://www.basetrend.nl BaseTrend - http://www.openmobile.nl openmobile.nl -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Android-Android-Cupcake-V22-installer-image-tp4231575p4231575.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OffTopic]Geek'sPhone: New android actor?
On Mon, 2009-11-09 at 21:34 +0100, David Lanzendörfer wrote: Would be nice, if it could become a new development platform for OM/SHR too. Are there some development boards to get? With JTAG interface and so on? And a documentation for writing free drivers for the linux kernel? Using android kernel is not an option, because they put the mostpart of theire drivers into the apache licensed userspace. In binary format. So the basic idea of opensource handies is died in android, because the linux kernel cant support the hardware on its own, theres alway a binary compatible android userspace needed to have the devices working properly. I hope, if they call theire phone geeky then they are also open to sell developmentboards and documentation. If they dont. Then the word geeky is a lie and we could even call a htc-raph or other windows-ce generation handies geeky. Then we can call every ** smartphone geeky. Because they are all hackable in someway... So please ask them to inform about development boards on theire page. They dont have to make UMTS/GSM open, its clear that they cant, but the rest of the pcb and schematics they could give us in a documentation, so that some smart linux kernel hackers could write some drivers in the propriate section (Board, CPU, Devices) Something which the Android developers didnt manage to do either. Theire drivers are sooo ugly. This time, the development should start from our site. Linux shouldnt have only BIOS function, but should have the user and kernel space consequently separated. Lets do it on our own, an we are sure, that it will be respected. We can certainly do it better then proprietary enterprises and google. regards leviathan If you are looking for such phone maybe the htcdream(I know you're doing some work on the htcdream)is not a good option(but it's great if you want to learn about the internals...because there is some work to do) Some candidates are: *Omap Zoom II ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OmapZoom ) *Exeda mobile ( http://www.exedamobile.com/web/ ) *The flow ( http://www.gizmoforyou.com/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.32 ) *future openmoko phones(like gta02-core and/or the one from the University of São Paulo in Brasil ) Maybe there are others that I have forgotten. The palm pre is a different case as the modem doesn't fully work yet ( http://www.freesmartphone.org/index.php/Palm_Pre_Challenge ) Denis. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [OffTopic]Geek'sPhone: New android actor?
2009/11/9 David Lanzendörfer david.lanzendoer...@o2s.ch: Would be nice, if it could become a new development platform for OM/SHR too. Yes Are there some development boards to get? No With JTAG interface and so on? No And a documentation for writing free drivers for the linux kernel? No (AFAIK) Using android kernel is not an option, because they put the mostpart of theire drivers into the apache licensed userspace. In binary format. I know. So the basic idea of opensource handies is died in android, because the linux kernel cant support the hardware on its own, theres alway a binary compatible android userspace needed to have the devices working properly. I hope, if they call theire phone geeky then they are also open to sell developmentboards and documentation. If they dont. Then the word geeky is a lie and we could even call a htc-raph or other windows-ce generation handies geeky. Then we can call every ** smartphone geeky. Because they are all hackable in someway... Totally agree, we are trying to bring this openness you describe to that device but there is a lot of political work to be done ... So please ask them to inform about development boards on theire page. They dont have to make UMTS/GSM open, its clear that they cant, but the rest of the pcb and schematics they could give us in a documentation, so that some smart linux kernel hackers could write some drivers in the propriate section (Board, CPU, Devices) That's precisely our goal but don't hold your breath it might happens or not, I will transmit to them the willing on participate of the Openmoko community to improve the FOSS level status on the device ;) Something which the Android developers didnt manage to do either. Theire drivers are sooo ugly. This time, the development should start from our site. Linux shouldnt have only BIOS function, but should have the user and kernel space consequently separated. Lets do it on our own, an we are sure, that it will be respected. We can certainly do it better then proprietary enterprises and google. :) I agree too regards leviathan ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community David Reyes Samblas Martinez http://www.tuxbrain.com Open ultraportable embedded solutions Openmoko, Openpandora, Arduino Hey, watch out!!! There's a linux in your pocket!!! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
I would like some suggestions on where to go, and wether I can export my google code svn history. Please let us know your conclusions :) Thanks, Rui On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:00:34PM -0500, Jim Ancona wrote: It appears that Google is actively blocking access to Google Code from Iran and several other countries. See their TOS: http://code.google.com/tos.html and these threads on their groups list: http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting/search?group=google-code-hostingq=iran I'm the owner of the android-on-freerunner Google Code project. I will initiate a discussion about moving the project to another site on the a-o-f mailing list, http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner, which doesn't appear to be blocked. Jim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Levy levy.santa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 14:12, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra If you prove me it's Google who's actively blocking Iran, then I will remove both omnewrotate and elmdentica from Google Code in protest. Nice, I would like to suggest the same for other Free projects! Best regards from a portuguese, Rui Best regards from a brazillian, Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Some questions about android on Freerunner
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra r...@1407.org wrote: I would like some suggestions on where to go, and wether I can export my google code svn history. Please let us know your conclusions :) Some resources I found: There's a comparison page at Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_free_software_hosting_facilities There's an API for Google's Issues database: http://code.google.com/p/support/wiki/IssueTrackerAPI And the wiki content is in source control and can be exported, although syntax may be an issue. Jim Thanks, Rui On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 01:00:34PM -0500, Jim Ancona wrote: It appears that Google is actively blocking access to Google Code from Iran and several other countries. See their TOS: http://code.google.com/tos.html and these threads on their groups list: http://groups.google.com/group/google-code-hosting/search?group=google-code-hostingq=iran I'm the owner of the android-on-freerunner Google Code project. I will initiate a discussion about moving the project to another site on the a-o-f mailing list, http://groups.google.com/group/android-on-freerunner, which doesn't appear to be blocked. Jim On Mon, Nov 9, 2009 at 10:36 PM, Levy levy.santa...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 14:12, Rui Miguel Silva Seabra If you prove me it's Google who's actively blocking Iran, then I will remove both omnewrotate and elmdentica from Google Code in protest. Nice, I would like to suggest the same for other Free projects! Best regards from a portuguese, Rui Best regards from a brazillian, Levy ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[OffTopic]Geek'sPhone: New android actor?
I stumbled up http://www.geeksphone.com/en/ today, featuring a new Android based device from Spain. The device is called ONE, anagram of NEO. Although the feature set seems nice, they don't seems to care much about openness, and don't deserve the Geek's title(or do they?). -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
