Re: booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
El día Friday, February 28, 2014 a las 05:46:41PM +0100, Radek Polak escribió: /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to some other values: ctrl_interface=/var/lib/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=0 eapol_version=1 fast_reauth=1 ap_scan=1 network={ ssid=tarara proto=WPA2 WPA RSN key_mgmt=WPA-PSK pairwise=TKIP group=TKIP psk= } ... Hmm maybe try to change encryption to use AES. For me AES works. But otherwise i dont have much knowledge in this area.. I tried it with AES too already before, and it did not worked; from the log file I now saw that with AES, qtmoko generates correctly pairwise=CCMP TKIP group=CCMP TKIP (which btw. are the defaults) and I could see from the log that it was associating fine, but could not get an IP addr with DHCP; that's why at the end in the GUI it was not visible as success of associating; it says in the log: Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + echo Trying to find ip: 0 Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: Trying to find ip: 0 Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + [ 0 -gt 10 ] Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + /sbin/udhcpc -n -i eth0 Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + /sbin/ifconfig eth0 Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + awk BEGIN{FS=:}{print $2} Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + grep inet[^6] Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: + awk {print $1} Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: udhcpc (v1.20.2) started Mar 1 16:49:49 neo Qtopia: Sending discover... ... but never get one; I have a bunch of laptops and netbooks and all they get one, the FR not; I will figure out why; for the moment I configured an adecuate IP addr hardcoded, and the gateway, and all was fine; Thanks for pointing me to AES. matthias -- Sent from my FreeBSD netbook Matthias Apitz, g...@unixarea.de, http://www.unixarea.de/ f: +49-170-4527211 UNIX since V7 on PDP-11, UNIX on mainframe since ESER 1055 (IBM /370) UNIX on x86 since SVR4.2 UnixWare 2.1.2, FreeBSD since 2.2.5 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
Hello, I've installed (for the first time) qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 into mSD; the mSD contained a SHR distribution which I have moved away with # cd / # mkdir .SHR # mv * .SHT # tar xvpzf qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58.tar.gz on the 1st boot it asked me to callibrate the screen and set the timezone, time and date; after this it did not went further only showing in the center an analog clock. On 2nd boot (after power-off reset) it fsch'ed and rebooted, and the last lines on the screen are now: ... INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 [info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2. [ ok ] Starting system message bus: dbus. [ ok ] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd rfcomm. [ ok ] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel and now it hangs again forever, with an analog clock in the center. Any advice? Thanks in advance matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
On Friday, February 28, 2014 10:03:50 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: Hello, I've installed (for the first time) qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 into mSD; the mSD contained a SHR distribution which I have moved away with # cd / # mkdir .SHR # mv * .SHT # tar xvpzf qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58.tar.gz on the 1st boot it asked me to callibrate the screen and set the timezone, time and date; after this it did not went further only showing in the center an analog clock. On 2nd boot (after power-off reset) it fsch'ed and rebooted, and the last lines on the screen are now: ... INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 [info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2. [ ok ] Starting system message bus: dbus. [ ok ] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd rfcomm. [ ok ] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel and now it hangs again forever, with an analog clock in the center. Any advice? Thanks in advance Hi, can you try from SSH: /etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env qpe Maybe that'll print something useful. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
El día Friday, February 28, 2014 a las 11:58:17AM +0100, Radek Polak escribió: INIT: Entering runlevel: 2 [info] Using makefile-style concurrent boot in runlevel 2. [ ok ] Starting system message bus: dbus. [ ok ] Starting bluetooth: bluetoothd rfcomm. [ ok ] Starting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel and now it hangs again forever, with an analog clock in the center. Any advice? Thanks in advance Hi, can you try from SSH: /etc/init.d/qtmoko-neo stop . /opt/qtmoko/qpe.env qpe Maybe that'll print something useful. Hi, I could not SSH through USB at this time. On a next power-off it came up fine; Now I'm struggling with getting Wifi to work, I can see my home SSID, entered the correct values (WPA-PSK and phrase), but it is unwilling to connect; MAC filter in my AP is temp. disabled because I do not know the MAC addr of the Wifi card. is Debian using the wpa_supplicant daemon? seems so, because the values I have entered are written in the file with this name; but I do not see the proc itself; where is the log/debug output for this? Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:57:03 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: Now I'm struggling with getting Wifi to work, I can see my home SSID, entered the correct values (WPA-PSK and phrase), but it is unwilling to connect; MAC filter in my AP is temp. disabled because I do not know the MAC addr of the Wifi card. is Debian using the wpa_supplicant daemon? seems so, because the values I have entered are written in the file with this name; but I do not see the proc itself; where is the log/debug output for this? In Settings-Logging there can be selected Wifi or Networking category. There is bug in QtMoko in case of many networks around it might connect to wrong one. So check if from the log if it connects to your ssid. It can be workarounded if you manually move your network on the top of the list. Then it should start working ok. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
El día Friday, February 28, 2014 a las 01:27:57PM +0100, Radek Polak escribió: On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:57:03 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: Now I'm struggling with getting Wifi to work, I can see my home SSID, entered the correct values (WPA-PSK and phrase), but it is unwilling to connect; MAC filter in my AP is temp. disabled because I do not know the MAC addr of the Wifi card. is Debian using the wpa_supplicant daemon? seems so, because the values I have entered are written in the file with this name; but I do not see the proc itself; where is the log/debug output for this? In Settings-Logging there can be selected Wifi or Networking category. There is bug in QtMoko in case of many networks around it might connect to wrong one. So check if from the log if it connects to your ssid. It can be workarounded if you manually move your network on the top of the list. Then it should start working ok. I enabled logging for Networking (Wifi is not there) and from what I see it tries to associate with my AP 'tarara', but either this does not work, or DHCP does not work; this remains unclear from the log; I did it by hand and I can associate with the config: # cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf ctrl_interface=/var/lib/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=0 eapol_version=1 fast_reauth=1 ap_scan=1 network={ ssid=tarara proto=WPA WPA2 WPA RSN key_mgmt=WPA-PSK #pairwise=TKIP #group=TKIP psk=XX } when I then do # /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0 it associates fine; I can ifconfig' the interface and reach world. when qtmoko does this, it modifies the config file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to some other values: ctrl_interface=/var/lib/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=0 eapol_version=1 fast_reauth=1 ap_scan=1 network={ ssid=tarara proto=WPA2 WPA RSN key_mgmt=WPA-PSK pairwise=TKIP group=TKIP psk= } and wpa_supplicant daemon can't associate. it seems that the values are picked up from: /home/root/Applications/Network/config/wlan0.conf which is modified from the GUI... have to debug further... Thanks matthias -- Matthias Apitz | /\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign: www.asciiribbon.org E-mail: g...@unixarea.de | \ / - No HTML/RTF in E-mail WWW: http://www.unixarea.de/ | X - No proprietary attachments phone: +49-170-4527211 | / \ - Respect for open standards ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: booting qtmoko-debian-gta02-v58 hangs
On Friday, February 28, 2014 05:04:29 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Friday, February 28, 2014 a las 01:27:57PM +0100, Radek Polak escribió: On Friday, February 28, 2014 12:57:03 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: Now I'm struggling with getting Wifi to work, I can see my home SSID, entered the correct values (WPA-PSK and phrase), but it is unwilling to connect; MAC filter in my AP is temp. disabled because I do not know the MAC addr of the Wifi card. is Debian using the wpa_supplicant daemon? seems so, because the values I have entered are written in the file with this name; but I do not see the proc itself; where is the log/debug output for this? In Settings-Logging there can be selected Wifi or Networking category. There is bug in QtMoko in case of many networks around it might connect to wrong one. So check if from the log if it connects to your ssid. It can be workarounded if you manually move your network on the top of the list. Then it should start working ok. I enabled logging for Networking (Wifi is not there) and from what I see it tries to associate with my AP 'tarara', but either this does not work, or DHCP does not work; this remains unclear from the log; I did it by hand and I can associate with the config: # cat /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf ctrl_interface=/var/lib/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=0 eapol_version=1 fast_reauth=1 ap_scan=1 network={ ssid=tarara proto=WPA WPA2 WPA RSN key_mgmt=WPA-PSK #pairwise=TKIP #group=TKIP psk=XX } when I then do # /sbin/wpa_supplicant -dd -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -ieth0 it associates fine; I can ifconfig' the interface and reach world. when qtmoko does this, it modifies the config file /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf to some other values: ctrl_interface=/var/lib/wpa_supplicant ctrl_interface_group=0 eapol_version=1 fast_reauth=1 ap_scan=1 network={ ssid=tarara proto=WPA2 WPA RSN key_mgmt=WPA-PSK pairwise=TKIP group=TKIP psk= } and wpa_supplicant daemon can't associate. it seems that the values are picked up from: /home/root/Applications/Network/config/wlan0.conf which is modified from the GUI... have to debug further... Hmm maybe try to change encryption to use AES. For me AES works. But otherwise i dont have much knowledge in this area.. BR Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko image for Freerunner based on debian wheezy
Hi Radek, I tried both QtPedometer and NeronGPS, this works together, but it confuses the number of sattelites next to the GPS symbol in the top bar. I also tried SMS send and receive as well as talking - OK. GPRS works also and does not disconnect the modem anymore, so I closed the bug. Do You have a checklist what You want to be tested? Matth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: QtMoko image for Freerunner based on debian wheezy
On Mittwoch, 3. April 2013, Radek Polak wrote: So please if you have time, give it a try and report if something does not work as expected. It would be really nice if we could move to wheezy so that GTA04 and GTA02 images are more similar. Hi Radek, Thanks for the image. I have flashed it and made apt-get update apt-get upgrade. Then I had to upgrade qtmoko-neo by apt-get install qtmoko-neo So far I only found that navit is crashing at start. It was installed by the option More Apps - gps - navit - Click here to install. I also installed QtPedometer same way, this starts OK. I will test function on my way to work later. I tried QMplayer, this triggered the installation of mplayer which went fine. I will try in the next few days and report further. Regards Matth ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
QtMoko image for Freerunner based on debian wheezy
Hi, you can now download wheezy-based QtMoko image from here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/qtmoko/files/Experimental/ I have tested it a bit and havent found any obvious problems except that i cant connect to wifi router at work. But i couldnt even with squeeze based image. So please if you have time, give it a try and report if something does not work as expected. It would be really nice if we could move to wheezy so that GTA04 and GTA02 images are more similar. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
On 02/18/2013 07:47 AM, David Matthews wrote: I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the I'd be interested in any success reports with linphone or any other sip client on a current freerunner distro Anyone? I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX. I used this [1] as a guide to get things working. The author has some broken links to his configuration files, though. Here are the corrected links: http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc I did find that it is necessary to restore the gsmhandset state scenario after exiting Linphone. Otherwise the phone hangs when suspending. alsactl -f /opt/qtmoko/etc/alsa-scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore I've been making calls over an OpenVPN tunnel on WiFi back to my asterisk server. The call quality is very nice with only an occasional audio stutter. It is definitely usable. Regards, Aaron [1] http://acaia.ca/~tiago/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Hi Aaron I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX. I used this [1] as a guide to get things working. The author has some broken links to his configuration files, though. Here are the corrected links: http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc Thanks for those links - that is very encouraging - I'll be giving this a try Regards -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Hello Aaron, Can you please provide more information, e.g. 1. Which kernel are you using? 2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)? alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav Thanks for your help, Alon. On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 13:35 -0500, Aaron Sells wrote: I'm using Linphone on QtMoko with QX. I used this [1] as a guide to get things working. The author has some broken links to his configuration files, though. Here are the corrected links: http://pub.acaia.ca/profiles.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/favourites.conf http://pub.acaia.ca/.linphonerc I did find that it is necessary to restore the gsmhandset state scenario after exiting Linphone. Otherwise the phone hangs when suspending. alsactl -f /opt/qtmoko/etc/alsa-scenarios/gsmhandset.state restore I've been making calls over an OpenVPN tunnel on WiFi back to my asterisk server. The call quality is very nice with only an occasional audio stutter. It is definitely usable. Regards, Aaron [1] http://acaia.ca/~tiago/posts/VoIP_in_Neo_Freerunner_with_Qtmoko_and_Linphone/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
On 02/19/2013 04:20 PM, alonivtsan wrote: Hello Aaron, Can you please provide more information, e.g. 1. Which kernel are you using? root@neo:~# uname -a Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48 #1 Wed Sep 12 11:31:51 UTC 2012 armv4tl GNU/Linux 2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)? alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav No, that doesn't seem to work. This works though: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore arecord -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav Regards, Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Thank you Aaron for your help. I simply copied the voip-handset.state file from qtmoko v48 and now everything works. To fix the quality of my output getting worse over time I enabled only GSM codec and disabled Enable adaptive rate control. On Tue, 2013-02-19 at 16:38 -0500, Aaron Sells wrote: On 02/19/2013 04:20 PM, alonivtsan wrote: Hello Aaron, Can you please provide more information, e.g. 1. Which kernel are you using? root@neo:~# uname -a Linux neo 2.6.34-qtmoko-v48 #1 Wed Sep 12 11:31:51 UTC 2012 armv4tl GNU/Linux 2. Can you use arecord to record the microphone, i.e. can you hear a recording of yourself when running the following commands (replace path-to-voip-handset.state by the correct path)? alsactl -f path-to-voip-handset.state restore arecord -D hw:0,0 -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav No, that doesn't seem to work. This works though: alsactl -f /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios/voip-handset.state restore arecord -r 8000 -f S16_LE -c 2 record.wav aplay record.wav Regards, Aaron ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on Freerunner+SIP
I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the I'd be interested in any success reports with linphone or any other sip client on a current freerunner distro Anyone? -- David Matthews m...@dmatthews.org ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on Freerunner+SIP
Hello all, I tried using SIP (Linphone) on Debian without any luck. After removing echo cancellation in Linphone settings I can hear other side but the other side cannot hear me. I think the issue is microphone not recording. I'm using the standard kernel that is shipped in Debian (2.6.34). Switching via alsactl to voip handset state file and using arecord does not work in Debian but works fine in Om2009. If this is a kernel issue, is there a new kernel which supports microphone recording (I tried using Om2009 kernel - 2.6.29 - but boot failed)? Thanks, Alon. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian on freerunner
Hi guys, I'm trying to install Debian on the FR. I get stuck when downloading the packages because it doesn't find/download coreutils... any suggestions? Thanks d ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Debian on freerunner
Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com writes: Hi guys, I'm trying to install Debian on the FR. I get stuck when downloading the packages because it doesn't find/download coreutils... You should send the full output of the install.sh script. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
Thanks for all the detailed responses guys. I've decided to install QtMoko and I'm liking it a lot so far; only thing is that I'm not able to send SMS (but I can receive) while I was able to send in SHR. Trying to figure that out as well as get ATT's GPRS working now. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
On Saturday, November 10, 2012 09:42:01 PM Harry Prevor wrote: I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko over Debian on a Freerunner? If you are using QtMoko you are also using debian. QtMoko is just one package. Like KDE or gnome. You can run QtMoko also on top of other rootfs - like in open embedded, Fedora, OpenWrt - whatever. 2. I like that it is built for touch by default in QtMoko but would also like to fall back to a desktop-like environment when needed (i.e. something like Openbox that isn't optimized for touch); this is possible, no? Yes, there is QX program - it launches X server optionally with matchbox windows manager. 3. Does QTMoko offer all the software in the Debian repositories? Yes, but for X server applications you need to use QX to run them. 4. Can I install a different window manager than the default one if wanted? QtMoko run on top of framebuffer - it's not using X server. For applications ran in QX you can use whatever window manager you like. For native QtMoko you cant change it. 5. Are there any glaring software limitations regarding the Freerunner that QtMoko has that Debian doesn't? No, you can install all debian packages since qtmoko rootfs is debian. 6. They both use the same kernel, right? There is no kernel for Freerunner in debian repos. So you have to use self compiled kernel. 7. From what I've seen it seems like QtMoko is being more actively developed than Debian on the Freerunner currently; is this true? I am doing release tarballs like every two months. Most of the work goes to qtmoko package so Debian on freerunner project does not need to do release that often. 8. If I prefer the debian-unstable packages can I use that repository on QtMoko? 9. If I were to upgrade to a GTA04 at some point, would the transition be any easier on one distribution than the other? You can upgrade the rootfs to testing/unstable and it will most likely work. But i cant guarantee that it will always work. It's moving target. 10. Is either distribution more thouroughly tested with the GTA04 than the other? QtMoko now runs nearly perfectly on GTA04. There is problem with ringtones sound which i am now working on. Then GTA04 support will be same good as it's on Freerunner. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
Am 10.11.2012 um 21:42 schrieb Harry Prevor: I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko over Debian on a Freerunner? With QtMoko you get a set of touch and screen size optimized applications using the Qt GUI toolkit running on top of e.g. Debian. 2. I like that it is built for touch by default in QtMoko but would also like to fall back to a desktop-like environment when needed (i.e. something like Openbox that isn't optimized for touch); this is possible, no? I think you can just do 'apt-get install lxde' and need some minor tweaks on the init scripts to switch between both. 3. Does QTMoko offer all the software in the Debian repositories? Yes, since QtMoko = Debian + GUI 4. Can I install a different window manager than the default one if wanted? 5. Are there any glaring software limitations regarding the Freerunner that QtMoko has that Debian doesn't? 6. They both use the same kernel, right? They even use the same Debian packages. 7. From what I've seen it seems like QtMoko is being more actively developed than Debian on the Freerunner currently; is this true? 8. If I prefer the debian-unstable packages can I use that repository on QtMoko? 9. If I were to upgrade to a GTA04 at some point, would the transition be any easier on one distribution than the other? should be the same 10. Is either distribution more thouroughly tested with the GTA04 than the other? QtMoko isn't really a distribution independently of Debian. I usually describe it as a preconfigured user interface added to Debian. Thanks ahead of time for the answers. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko over Debian on a Freerunner? 2. I like that it is built for touch by default in QtMoko but would also like to fall back to a desktop-like environment when needed (i.e. something like Openbox that isn't optimized for touch); this is possible, no? 3. Does QTMoko offer all the software in the Debian repositories? 4. Can I install a different window manager than the default one if wanted? 5. Are there any glaring software limitations regarding the Freerunner that QtMoko has that Debian doesn't? 6. They both use the same kernel, right? 7. From what I've seen it seems like QtMoko is being more actively developed than Debian on the Freerunner currently; is this true? 8. If I prefer the debian-unstable packages can I use that repository on QtMoko? 9. If I were to upgrade to a GTA04 at some point, would the transition be any easier on one distribution than the other? 10. Is either distribution more thouroughly tested with the GTA04 than the other? Thanks ahead of time for the answers. -- Harry Prevor ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
Harry Prevor wrote: I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko over Debian on a Freerunner? snip Thanks ahead of time for the answers. All I would say is that trying to read the screen running lxde is difficult, and aiming a stylus at the right spot is even more difficult. Frankly QtMoko is beautiful - just a lovely interface to look at. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Ten general QtMoko and Debian questions
On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 10:00:12 +1100 Liz ed...@billiau.net wrote: Harry Prevor wrote: I just aquired a Freerunner, and after checking out the list of distributions on the wiki I've narrowed it down to Debian and QtMoko. I'm leaning toward QtMoko but I'm unsure about a few things: 1. What are the advantages to using QTMoko over Debian on a Freerunner? snip Thanks ahead of time for the answers. All I would say is that trying to read the screen running lxde is difficult, and aiming a stylus at the right spot is even more difficult. Frankly QtMoko is beautiful - just a lovely interface to look at. I agree, you won't be too happy choosing Debian as it's simply too hard to read. What you can do however is install QtMoko or another distro of your choice to NAND and then install a second distro to an mSD card. It can be a bit tricky to boot from either since it requires timing button presses just right. I've honestly forgotten which one boots by default, I've been using an N900 as my primary phone for some months now, but iirc it will boot to mSD first. On my FreeRunner I've got both QtMoko on NAND and AoF on mSD. Both work pretty well but imho QtMoko is the better choice for use as a phone and AoF works well with Moonreader as an ebook reader. SHR was okay last I tried it but the 'stable' branch was old and the only other option is the bleeding edge not always fully working branch. SHR also requires an immediate change of power consumption settings to make it usable imho. Since they're far too aggressive by default. Brian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian + phoneui-apps
2012/4/2 Brendon Schumacker brendon.s...@gmail.com: Unfortunately it seems I have killed my openmoko from playing with it too much. Perhaps you have some advice for this? I can not start the phone with the regular power button anymore, it might show a red light for a moment on the aux button, but then it dies. If I do aux + power I can get into NOR boot menu sometimes, but it will die again when I try to boot. Can you guess what the problem might be? It sounds like it'd be functioning normally, the red light being the Qi's only UI. If you press AUX when the red light shows, or alternatively just remove the SD card temporarily, it should boot from the NAND flash instead of MicroSD card. So most probably you've a problem with the Debian installation on the MicroSD card, but Qi tries to boot from there by default. AUX + power always brings the NOR boot menu, but you need to press and hold them for some time. Same goes for interacting with Qi, you need to press the AUX in a right way :) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02, FSO in debian/sid: buttons do not work, led neither
Hi Arne, please try this config aux should suspend device and LEDs light when charging with adapter indeed, the new rules.yaml looks quite different (and while looking at it i dimly recall those parts). i moved even the *conf files in place. suspend works now, that phoneui-quick-settings throws the error to be expected (command missing). but LEDs still do not really do anything. when resuming, the PWR button shortly glows orange and that's it. no orange nor blue when on usb -- how do i configure blue to be lit as long the freerunner is awake? last but not least: - is there a reason why those files are not included in the debian packages? - what are fsotdld.conf and fsodatad.conf for? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian + phoneui-apps
Am Dienstag, 27. März 2012, 05:09:19 schrieb Brendon Schumacker: 2012.03.26 14:32:18.787663 [phonefsod] WARNING: failed to connect to /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device: Error calling StartServiceByName for org.freesmartphone.ogsmd: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.TimedOut: Activation of org.freesmartphone.ogsmd timed out 2012.03.26 14:32:28.378662 [phonefsod] CRITICAL: !!! ouch, phoneuid is gone - telephony won't work anymore !!! Then in Ubuntu I did a apt-cache search fso and installed everything that looked relevant there. Only one of them updated. And with ps aux it seems that everything is running as it should be, so the problem seems beyond me at this point. Please make sure, fso-gta02 and fso-frameworkd-gta02, phoenuid and e17 are installed. Theydepend on all needed packages and install them. If the PIN-Dialog doesn't show up, insert something like dbus-send --system --dest=org.freesmartphone.ousaged /org/freesmartphone/Usage org.freesmartphone.Usage.RequestResource string:GSM into ~/.xsession Basically, there is no additional configuration needed. /usr/share/phoneuid/phoneui-wrapper.sh If everything is correct, this isn't needed. You can swap out xfce with enlightenment and it still works which is great. Although I couldn't close Contacts after opening it because there was no close button, that might also be a SHR specific trait. If you are using illume1 tap on top-panel and then on X to close or load module illume-softkey. On illume2 you can install shr-e-gadgets (It's not in Debian yet) git://anonscm.debian.org/pkg-fso/shr-e-gadgets.git and then echo shr_elm_softkey.desktop ~/.e/e/applications/startup/.order If you tap on top-panel, you should be able to switch and close windows. Rico signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian + phoneui-apps
2012/3/26 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: However, after that I get an Enlightenment complaint about not being able to create a new window for each of the same apps that complained about the D-Bus interface earlier. phoneui-apps apparently is missing some dependency, filed bug #665951. After installing the e17 meta package, the apps start. Furthermore, phone calls work! I removed the phoneui-wrapper.sh from .xsession again, and switched from matchbox-window-manager to enlightenment_start. Starting phoneui-dialer from command line works and phone calls can be made and received. Sound works from FreeRunner to the other phone, but I don't seem to get audio from FreeRunner with the default settings (nor the speaker switch works). Enlightenment seems to also have kept to its tiny font size (on Debian, hard-coded away in SHR distribution and elsewhr), which should be probably fixed in either Debian's E17 packages or in configuration otherwise. The phoneui apps (or any apps) also aren't visible in the home screen. Anyway, it's nice to see the new generation FSO2 in action on Debian. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian + phoneui-apps
Am Dienstag, 27. März 2012, 15:19:08 schrieb Timo Jyrinki: Sound works from FreeRunner to the other phone, but I don't seem to get audio from FreeRunner with the default settings (nor the speaker switch works). Please check, if the symlink /etc/freesmartphone/conf/GTA02/alsa-default points to the correct kernel version. Rico signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian + phoneui-apps
2012/3/26 Brendon Schumacker brendon.s...@gmail.com: I have phoneui-apps install, and I have both XFCE4 and e17 installed and working fine, but they can't open Dialer, Contacts, etc. When I try phoneui-dialer at the cli I get: Error: No such interface `org.shr.phoneui.Dialer' on object at path /org/shr/phoneui/Dialer Which makes sense because debian is not SHR, I suppose, but phoneui-apps is in the debian repositories so I'm assuming there must be a way to config it? SHR is both a distribution and name for a couple of applications. The SHR applications have been packaged to Debian, and also updated a couple of times. I've the same problem as you, since I wanted to experiment with the FSO2 + SHR on top of Debian, now that they've been packaged for some time and updated a couple of times. I haven't yet gotten any answers either unfortunately, but I've understood the phoneui-apps are working at least for the Debian maintainers who packaged them, and probably some else as well. It's probably about us not understanding about how the apps are supposed to work, and the fact that they haven't yet been configured in Debian to work out-of-the-box apparently. I did find a fix to the specific problem you're mentioning, though. You need to have phoneuid running, and in its current Debian form it's not configured to be automatically run as as service. Therefore I added /usr/share/phoneuid/phoneui-wrapper.sh to the /root/.xsession. However, after that I get an Enlightenment complaint about not being able to create a new window for each of the same apps that complained about the D-Bus interface earlier. I'd be happy to hear usage information from this point forward :) It'd be nice to upgrade from FSO1 + Zhone combo eventually. I will be incredibly happy if I can be running debian on my openmoko! Please let me know if you have any ideas. Let's hope you (also) can get up and running with the phoneui-apps included soon! -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian + phoneui-apps
Hi, there are two daemons from shr: phonefsod and phonuid. phoneuid works on top of phonefsod and brings up apps like dialer or contacts. phonefsod is started by an init-script, phoneuid via /etc/X11/Xsession.d. Sometimes there is a kind of race condition between daemons. So please turn on logging in /etc/phoneuid.conf and /etc/phonefsod.conf and/or test, if disabling concurrency in /etc/init.d/rc makes a difference. Rico signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
flashing debian ends in kernel panic
hi I tried the debian image from http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz but it ends directly in kernel panic not syncing. No init found. my sdcard has a first partion of vfat type and a second one where I flashed the image of ext3 type. any ideas br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: flashing debian ends in kernel panic
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:00 + (UTC) schrieb robin spielr...@web.de: hi I tried the debian image from http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz but it ends directly in kernel panic not syncing. No init found. my sdcard has a first partion of vfat type and a second one where I flashed the image of ext3 type. any ideas br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, did you read the hole mail from Timo? It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is unpacked and a Qi bootloader. I wonder if this is not the problem. regards, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: flashing debian ends in kernel panic
Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:31:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Guenther thomas.guent...@gmx.de: Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:00 + (UTC) schrieb robin spielr...@web.de: hi I tried the debian image from http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz but it ends directly in kernel panic not syncing. No init found. my sdcard has a first partion of vfat type and a second one where I flashed the image of ext3 type. any ideas br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, did you read the hole mail from Timo? [...] Sorry, I mean 'whole mail'. Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: flashing debian ends in kernel panic
Thomas Guenther thomas.guenther at gmx.de writes: Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:31:10 +0200 schrieb Thomas Guenther thomas.guenther at gmx.de: Am Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:15:00 + (UTC) schrieb robin spielraum at web.de: hi I tried the debian image from http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz but it ends directly in kernel panic not syncing. No init found. my sdcard has a first partion of vfat type and a second one where I flashed the image of ext3 type. any ideas br robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community at lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community Hi, did you read the hole mail from Timo? [...] Sorry, I mean 'whole mail'. Thomas I found the solution: cat append-GTA02 givs me root=/dev/mmcblk0p1 rootdelay=1 so changing this to the second partions gives me a system which boots into X. there I am left with a white topbar and a black rest of the screen though. Could you please point me to the original mail from timo. I only found his image via the openmoko wiki recent changes. thanks a lot rootfs / autodefaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime 0 1 /dev/mtdblock6 /mnt/flash jffs2 defaults,noatime,noauto 0 2 proc/proc procdefaults0 0 tmpfs /tmptmpfs defaults,noatime0 0 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: flashing debian ends in kernel panic
there I am left with a white topbar and a black rest of the screen though. that's the expected behaviour -- it's a very basic installation (as the minimal in its name already suggests). Could you please point me to the original mail from timo. I only found hisimage via the openmoko wiki recent changes. see http://lists.linuxtogo.org/pipermail/smartphones-userland/2012-March/003134.html ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian with illume
hi I would like to try out debian with e17 as window manager. Installing the timo's latest image worked nicely. according to the debian page on openmoko.org one has now to install enlightenment if one wants to use illume. but if I now want to install zhone I get the following: The following packages have unmet dependencies: zhone : Depends: python-ecore but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-edje but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-evas but it is not going to be installed Depends: libevas-svn-06-engines-x but it is not installable Depends: zhone-illume-glue but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages has anyone e17 running on debian and could point me in the right direction (eg. additional repositories) best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
GTA02, FSO in debian/sid: buttons do not work, led neither
hi, a) both in my own installation with install.sh and timo's (j.) minimal installation the power button has no effect -- no suspend or even gracefull shutdown is initiated. although the button press ist recognized in dmesg, no fso*log nor frameworkd.log shows anything (everything set to DEBUG). in the configurations nothing about buttons is really to be found (except that stanza in frameworkd.conf or fsodevicd or so, don't have the device active right no since suspend does not work) and the options are as arcane and undocumented as ever ... b) LEDs, despite being configured in rules.yaml, do not work. there's an occasional flashing but nothing of the expected (and configured) behaviour. i am absolutely sure, it is not a hardware issue, but has to do with FSO. does anybody else see those issues? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian with illume
zhone is dead. use phoneui-apps. hi I would like to try out debian with e17 as window manager. Installing the timo's latest image worked nicely. according to the debian page on openmoko.org one has now to install enlightenment if one wants to use illume. but if I now want to install zhone I get the following: The following packages have unmet dependencies: zhone : Depends: python-ecore but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-edje but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-evas but it is not going to be installed Depends: libevas-svn-06-engines-x but it is not installable Depends: zhone-illume-glue but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages has anyone e17 running on debian and could point me in the right direction (eg. additional repositories) best regards robin ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: GTA02, FSO in debian/sid: buttons do not work, led neither
Hi Arne, please try this config aux should suspend device and LEDs light when charging with adapter Rico[frameworkd] # indicates this configuration version, do not change version = 1 # the default log_level, if not specified per subsystem or module # available log levels are: DEBUG, INFO, WARNING, ERROR, CRITICAL log_level = ERROR # the global log_destination. Uncomment to enable log_to = file #log_to = file #log_to = syslog # if logging to a file, specify the destination log_destination = /var/log/frameworkd.log # persistance format, one of pickle, yaml persist_format = pickle rootdir = ../etc/freesmartphone:/etc/freesmartphone:/usr/etc/freesmartphone [odeviced] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 [odeviced.kernel26] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # poll capacity once every 5 minutes # (usually, you do not have to change this) capacity_check_timeout = 300 # set 0 to disable FB_BLANK ioctl to blank framebuffer # (if you have problems on Openmoko GTA02) fb_blank = 1 [odeviced.audio] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # set directory where the alsa audio scenarios are stored scenario_dir = /usr/share/openmoko/scenarios # set default scenario loaded at startup default_scenario = stereoout [odeviced.idlenotifier] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # don't read from accellerometers for GTA02 ignoreinput = 2,3 # configure timeouts (in seconds) here. A value of 0 # means 'never fall into this state' (except programatically) idle = 10 idle_dim = 20 idle_prelock = 12 lock = 2 suspend = 0 [odeviced.input] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # don't read from accellerometers for GTA02 ignoreinput = 2,3 # format is keyname,type,input device keycode,report held seconds in addition to press/release report1 = AUX,key,169,1 report2 = POWER,key,116,1 report3 = USB,key,356,0 report4 = HEADSET,switch,2,0 [odeviced.powercontrol-neo] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # disable accelerometer since it uses LOADS of CPU resources [odeviced.accelerometer] disable = 1 accelerometer_type = gta02 [ogsmd] # set log_level to INFO for ogsmd to avoid a bug log_level = INFO # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # choose your modem type, available types are: ti_calypso, freescale_neptune, singleline, muxed4line, option, ... modemtype = ti_calypso # if you have a ti_calypso, you can choose the deep sleep mode. Valid values are: never, adaptive (default), always ti_calypso_deep_sleep = adaptive # if you have a ti_calypso, you can choose the dsp mode for audio enhancement. Valid values are: #short-aec: Short Echo Cancellation (max) #long-aec: Long Echo Cancellation (max) #long-aec:6db: Long Echo Cancellation (-6db) #long-aec:12db: Long Echo Cancellation (-12db) #long-aec:18db: Long Echo Cancellation (-18db) #nr: Noise Reduction (max) #nr:6db: Noise Reduction (-6db) #nr:12db: Noise Reduction (-12db) #nr:18db: Noise Reduction (-18db) #aec+nr: Long Echo Cancellation (max) plus Noise Reduction (max) [default] #none: No audio processing. ti_calypso_dsp_mode = aec+nr # choose your muxer, available types are: gsm0710muxd [default], fso-abyss #ti_calypso_muxer = fso-abyss [ogpsd] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 1 # possible options are NMEADevice, UBXDevice, GTA02Device, EtenDevice device = GTA02Device # possible options are SerialChannel, GllinChannel, UDPChannel, FileChannel channel = SerialChannel # For UDPChannel the path defines the port to listen to path = /dev/ttySAC1 [ousaged] # set 1 to disable a module # you need to disable ousaged if you want to use the new implementation: fso-usaged disable = 1 # choose whether resources should be disabled at startup, at shutdown, always (default), or never. sync_resources_with_lifecycle = always [ousaged.generic] [opreferencesd] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 0 log_level = WARNING [opreferencesd.opreferences] [oeventsd] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 0 log_level = WARNING [oeventsd.oevents] [onetworkd] [onetworkd.network] [ophoned] disable=1 [ophoned.ophoned] [opimd] # set 1 to disable a module disable = 0 #contacts_default_backend = CSV-Contacts #messages_default_backend = SQlite-Messages #calls_default_backend = SQLite-Calls #dates_default_backend = SQLite-Dates #notes_default_backend = SQLite-Notes #tasks_default_backend = SQLite-Tasks #contacts_merging_enabled = 1 #messages_default_folder = Unfiled #messages_trash_folder = Trash #sim_messages_default_folder = SMS rootdir = ../etc/freesmartphone/opim:/etc/freesmartphone/opim:/usr/etc/freesmartphone/opim [opimd.opimd] [otimed] disable = 1 # a list of time/zone sources to use or NONE timesources = GPS,NTP zonesources = GSM # use an ip address here, otherwise DNS resolution will block ntpserver = 134.169.172.1 [otimed.otimed] rules.yaml Description: application/yaml ### # FSO Data Daemon Configuration File -- for SYSTEM INTEGRATORS only
Re: debian with illume
2012/3/25 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de: zhone is dead. use phoneui-apps. ...updated the openmoko wiki to reflect this. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner
2012/3/23 Thomas Günther thomas.guent...@gmx.de: With your rootfs my Neo does boot. I can login via ssh but I only have a white bar at top on display. If I stop nodm I get a debian login prompt at top on display. Any idea what happens? That's the minimal part of it. It is generous enough to offer you a tray icon area, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm your screen with so called graphical user interfaces. :D So you need to for example apt-get install what I proposed, although that was just applications. Then something either stylus of finger usable for application switching/launching. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner
Excerpts from Timo Jyrinki's message of 2012-03-21 16:24:25 +: 2011/9/12 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz. About the same story repeated, but for 2012. I was asked about the pre-installation image which prompted me to update it. And while updating it I noticed that install.sh had a couple of problems, which I fixed: - Removed obsolete fso-gpsd - Install fso-gtaXX instead of fso-config-gtaXX - Removed obsolete zhone - Offer phoneui-apps in COM - Switch from experimental (unneeded) to unstable for the main Debian repository I only tried minimal installation still, though. I also updated instructions for install.sh usage at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner - note mainly that you probably want to remove openmoko-panel-plugin since its functionality starts to be limited and it eats most of the CPU for no good reason. The pre-installed minimal rootfs is now at: http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ (Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz) It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is unpacked and a Qi bootloader. SSH:ing in works after booting (root password 'changeme'), and after apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal phoneui-apps you may actually get something useful done. If you want some home UI to use when not attached to computer, you may try my hacky and ugly https://github.com/tjyrinki/tihos As for my own setup, it's still the old http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki with FSO1 actually, but I now did this update to enable others more easily to do something useful. -Timo Great! Thank you very much =) First thing I did when setting it up, I've changed IPs as in new SHR: NOTE: IP adresses are changed in new SHR-CORE images after 110822, phone 192.168.7.2 host: 192.168.7.1 It makes bit more sense to me than taking chance with ..0. ;) ~ elf Pavlik ~ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner
2011/9/12 Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com: Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz. About the same story repeated, but for 2012. I was asked about the pre-installation image which prompted me to update it. And while updating it I noticed that install.sh had a couple of problems, which I fixed: - Removed obsolete fso-gpsd - Install fso-gtaXX instead of fso-config-gtaXX - Removed obsolete zhone - Offer phoneui-apps in COM - Switch from experimental (unneeded) to unstable for the main Debian repository I only tried minimal installation still, though. I also updated instructions for install.sh usage at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner - note mainly that you probably want to remove openmoko-panel-plugin since its functionality starts to be limited and it eats most of the CPU for no good reason. The pre-installed minimal rootfs is now at: http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ (Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz) It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is unpacked and a Qi bootloader. SSH:ing in works after booting (root password 'changeme'), and after apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal phoneui-apps you may actually get something useful done. If you want some home UI to use when not attached to computer, you may try my hacky and ugly https://github.com/tjyrinki/tihos As for my own setup, it's still the old http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki with FSO1 actually, but I now did this update to enable others more easily to do something useful. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest FSO from debian/sid not working
- fso-gt02 is installed - LED still does not work - phoneui-apps: i don't intend to sue the device as phone - rules: is there a howtod/description? as i said i don't have a backup of my old installation where i tweaked rules.yaml and don't after 1.5 years not recall what i did there - dmesg: what does a message in dmesg have to do with fso? or do you mean, that indicates that kernel wise everything is in place (drivers)? apparently i set DEBUG in the wrong set of config files (/etc/freesmartphone/conf/default/ is _not_ a sensible name for a configuration not being used) -- but now i see at least messages about state changes in /var/log/fsodeviced.log and signs of activity in /var/log/frameworkd.log thanks Am Montag, 19. März 2012, 21:01:43 schrieb arne anka: Can you describe the problem? - no apparent reaction to key presses -- no action (suspend or so), no line in logs (everything set to DEBUG) There are no actions defined. If you press power for 2 seconds, dmesg should report this, if everything is ok. - no led action - persist/ folder missing (frameworkd complaining about it and throwing an exception) LEDs should work. Please check, if fso-gta02 package is installed. It depends on necessary packages with config files. - files in /sys/ missing (i'd expect the fso in debian to work with the kernel there -- or is it just the usual discrepancy one encounters in sid now and then?) i updated to 2.6.39.4 from SHR, and at least the files in /sys/ are back -- but nothing else changed. I think, you will need 2.6.39. SHR kernel is working here. i got rid of LXDE (tested it years ago and never was happy with it) and installed e17 -- but even without any X, FSO should do something when pressing buttons at least. You have do define actions yourself in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml Try installing fso-gta02 and phonui-apps. Rico ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest FSO from debian/sid not working
Am Montag, 19. März 2012, 21:01:43 schrieb arne anka: Can you describe the problem? - no apparent reaction to key presses -- no action (suspend or so), no line in logs (everything set to DEBUG) There are no actions defined. If you press power for 2 seconds, dmesg should report this, if everything is ok. - no led action - persist/ folder missing (frameworkd complaining about it and throwing an exception) LEDs should work. Please check, if fso-gta02 package is installed. It depends on necessary packages with config files. - files in /sys/ missing (i'd expect the fso in debian to work with the kernel there -- or is it just the usual discrepancy one encounters in sid now and then?) i updated to 2.6.39.4 from SHR, and at least the files in /sys/ are back -- but nothing else changed. I think, you will need 2.6.39. SHR kernel is working here. i got rid of LXDE (tested it years ago and never was happy with it) and installed e17 -- but even without any X, FSO should do something when pressing buttons at least. You have do define actions yourself in /etc/freesmartphone/oevents/rules.yaml Try installing fso-gta02 and phonui-apps. Rico signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest FSP from debian/sid not working
Am Sonntag, 18. März 2012, 21:51:47 schrieb arne anka: hi, i recently installed Debian to my GTA02 again, but the FSO apparently does not work (correctly). Without going into it any further at this point -- can someone please post working configuration(s) file(s)? The configuration files shipped with debian packages should work by default. Can you describe the problem? Rico signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: latest FSO from debian/sid not working
Can you describe the problem? - no apparent reaction to key presses -- no action (suspend or so), no line in logs (everything set to DEBUG) - no led action - persist/ folder missing (frameworkd complaining about it and throwing an exception) - files in /sys/ missing (i'd expect the fso in debian to work with the kernel there -- or is it just the usual discrepancy one encounters in sid now and then?) i updated to 2.6.39.4 from SHR, and at least the files in /sys/ are back -- but nothing else changed. i got rid of LXDE (tested it years ago and never was happy with it) and installed e17 -- but even without any X, FSO should do something when pressing buttons at least. do i need any more modules loaded? i rather foolishly purged my old debian installation without saving configurations and stuff, before i tried the install.sh. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
latest FSP from debian/sid not working
hi, i recently installed Debian to my GTA02 again, but the FSO apparently does not work (correctly). Without going into it any further at this point -- can someone please post working configuration(s) file(s)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qt-moko-debian-v35.tar.gtz
Hi list I do not know if this is the right list to ask. Anyway: Qt-moko-v35(of course unpacked) does not seem to work, when booting from my microsd card. I only grabs a white screen and then stops. SHR works fine when booting from microsd. Android(1.5 or 1.6 can't remember) works fine booting from boot. My procedure: Put in the microsd card and 1. choose boot from microsd 2. then reboot. Thanks Poul BTW: Which software do I use to get some longer battery time. Now being approximately 2 hours. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt-moko-debian-v35.tar.gtz
Hi Poul I can assure you that QtMoko v35 works from a Micro SD Card, because that is what I am currently using :-) Which Bootloader are you using? With the Qi Bootloader that I use, there is no need to select boot from Micro SD Card on startup, this happens automatically... See this page: http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/qtmoko/index.php?title=Installation Regards, Nashvin On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Poul Kristensen bcc5...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I do not know if this is the right list to ask. Anyway: Qt-moko-v35(of course unpacked) does not seem to work, when booting from my microsd card. I only grabs a white screen and then stops. SHR works fine when booting from microsd. Android(1.5 or 1.6 can't remember) works fine booting from boot. My procedure: Put in the microsd card and 1. choose boot from microsd 2. then reboot. Thanks Poul BTW: Which software do I use to get some longer battery time. Now being approximately 2 hours. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[QTmoko debian] How to change display brightness / sound volume from command line
Hi is there anything similiar to the fso commands to set the display brightness in qtmoko v36? I would like to extend my navit xml by a button to automatically dim to 10% (first click) and back to 90% (second click). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [QTmoko debian] How to change display brightness / sound volume from command line
robin spielr...@web.de writes: is there anything similiar to the fso commands to set the display brightness in om backlight brightness 10 sets it to 10% ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Cross-building the QtMoko Debian package
Hi, In the process of trying to build the QtMoko Debian package from source, I've set up a wiki page [0] describing how to build it using only (em)debian tools. The build is now successful but the resulting package isn't fully functionnal yet: * no sound * no bluetooth Any review appreciated. Thanks, _g. [0] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/QtMoko/CrossBuildingOnDebian signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian sid, openmoko-panel-plugin: battery dbus broken and abnormal CPU usage
Hi to all, after a recent upgrade the battery icon on the openmoko-panel-plugin stopped to work. It seems that the dbus interface changed from: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \ /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/battery \ org.freesmartphone.Device.PowerSupply.GetInfo to this one: mdbus2 -s org.freesmartphone.odeviced \ /org/freesmartphone/Device/PowerSupply/3 \ org.freesmartphone.Info.GetInfo Is it normal or something is messed with my dbus/fso settings? Also i see an high CPU usage by openmoko-panel-plugin and fsodeviced, but may be it is caused by the panel querying the wrong dbus interface. Here are the packages I installed: linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02 20101212.git049b71de-2 dbus 1.4.16-1 fso-config-gta02 20100210 fso-deviced 0.9.5+git20110805-1 fso-deviced-openmoko 0.9.5+git20110805-1 fso-frameworkd0.9.5.9+git20110512-2 fso-usaged0.9.5+git20110805-2 openmoko-panel-plugin 0.12-1 -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy Tel. ufficio: 055-0118525 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
xserver-xorg uses 100% CPU with Debian wheezy/sid
Hi, is someone else experiencing the same problem of mine? When I start X everything seems fine, but as I touch the screen the CPU usage by the X process, reaches 100%. I'm running Debian wheezy/sid on the OpenMoko GTA02, with the following packages: linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02 20101212.git049b71de-2 libts-0.0-0 1.0-9 xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.1.901-2 xserver-xorg-input-tslib 0.0.6-7+b1 xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.6.0-2+b2 udev 172-1 hal 0.5.14-7 X is starting on defaults, no xorg.conf file. I tried also with any deamon stopped (the ones that I can stop), starting just X or startx, using fbdev or glamo driver: no changes. I also tried to revert libts-0.0-0 to 1.0-7, but it seems NO the same problem as Debian bugs #623095 or #623974. As soon I touch the screen, X emits this warning: selected device is not a touchscreen I understand but the pointer is indeed woring. If I strace X, I see this endless loop: select(256, [1 3 4 5 7 9 11 12], NULL, NULL, {569, 897000}) = 1 (in [12], left {569, 896900}) rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [IO], [], 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [IO], NULL, 8) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1719, 218454002}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1719, 219599002}) = 0 -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy Tel. ufficio: 055-0118525 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xserver-xorg uses 100% CPU with Debian wheezy/sid
Hi, we recently had a similar symptom on the GTA04 with Debian/Squeeze so I suspect the solution to be very similar. It turned out to be a configuration problem of X in combination with automatically mapping udev. So we had to switch off the automatic mapping of all udev touchscreens and mice as input devices, because the same device appears twice. This can be traced down in the x-log.# I do not exactly remember the details, but please look here and go into the config files for X11: http://download.goldelico.com/gta04/20110926-GTA04A3-HW-Tester/config.tgz -- hns Am 24.10.2011 um 14:43 schrieb Niccolo Rigacci: Hi, is someone else experiencing the same problem of mine? When I start X everything seems fine, but as I touch the screen the CPU usage by the X process, reaches 100%. I'm running Debian wheezy/sid on the OpenMoko GTA02, with the following packages: linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02 20101212.git049b71de-2 libts-0.0-0 1.0-9 xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.1.901-2 xserver-xorg-input-tslib 0.0.6-7+b1 xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.6.0-2+b2 udev 172-1 hal 0.5.14-7 X is starting on defaults, no xorg.conf file. I tried also with any deamon stopped (the ones that I can stop), starting just X or startx, using fbdev or glamo driver: no changes. I also tried to revert libts-0.0-0 to 1.0-7, but it seems NO the same problem as Debian bugs #623095 or #623974. As soon I touch the screen, X emits this warning: selected device is not a touchscreen I understand but the pointer is indeed woring. If I strace X, I see this endless loop: select(256, [1 3 4 5 7 9 11 12], NULL, NULL, {569, 897000}) = 1 (in [12], left {569, 896900}) rt_sigprocmask(SIG_BLOCK, [IO], [], 8) = 0 rt_sigprocmask(SIG_UNBLOCK, [IO], NULL, 8) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1719, 218454002}) = 0 clock_gettime(CLOCK_MONOTONIC, {1719, 219599002}) = 0 -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy Tel. ufficio: 055-0118525 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xserver-xorg uses 100% CPU with Debian wheezy/sid
Niccolo Rigacci nicc...@rigacci.org writes: When I start X everything seems fine, but as I touch the screen the CPU usage by the X process, reaches 100%. This is a known issue I think. X is starting on defaults, no xorg.conf file. How did you install the system? install.sh creates an xorg.conf that does not use tslib. I'm running Debian wheezy/sid on the OpenMoko GTA02, with the following packages: linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02 20101212.git049b71de-2 libts-0.0-0 1.0-9 xserver-xorg-core 2:1.11.1.901-2 xserver-xorg-input-tslib 0.0.6-7+b1 xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1:2.6.0-2+b2 udev 172-1 hal 0.5.14-7 I think the problem is that both tslib and evdev drivers try to read the touchscreen. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: xserver-xorg uses 100% CPU with Debian wheezy/sid
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 05:37:39PM +0300, Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Niccolo Rigacci nicc...@rigacci.org writes: When I start X everything seems fine, but as I touch the screen the CPU usage by the X process, reaches 100%. This is a known issue I think. X is starting on defaults, no xorg.conf file. How did you install the system? install.sh creates an xorg.conf that does not use tslib. This is the origin of the problem: I installed from install.sh some months ago: several thigs went wrong and I had to manually adjust them. Following the notes by Nikolaus Schaller I wrote an xorg.conf which works nice, may be I will post it somewhere. Perhaps a note on Debian Wiki should be added too? -- Niccolo Rigacci Firenze - Italy Tel. ufficio: 055-0118525 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Debian FSO2 debs? (was: Re: QtMoko v36)
Hello Radek, Radek Polak wrote (ao): QtMoko v36 is out. You can get if from here [1]. For more info check our homepage [2]. This release is experimental and is based on Debian unstable (sid) because of Freesmarphone.org stack integration. FSO does not have packages for Debian squeeze. Nice! Thank you for this release. Downloading atm :-) Thanks everyone who helped with this realease, mainly FSO guys and people who package FSO for Debian. This is FSO2, right? I can't find that in Debian: http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=fso Can one get the packages from the web somewhere? Sander -- Humilis IT Services and Solutions http://www.humilis.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner
2011/9/20 Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com: Hi I have installed your image and have given the commands via ssh apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal but no gui is up, how do I get it working? I do not have a sim, do I need it? Like I said, It is very much not functional as a phone out-of-the-box, because of the ongoing FSO1-FSO2 transition. X however starts automatically and SSH answers, and you may work your way from there,. So, you have X but for more you need to connect via SSH and install something workable. The Debian unstable repository is ongoing changes, and there is no simple functional GUI at the moment. You can install Zhone from experimental as instructed at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#Current_Status_of_Installation_via_install.sh , but people reported problems with it although it starts. Alternatives include installing a Debian stable and using Zhone there, although if you don't have SIM Zhone is mostly about phone functionality only anyway. So, it is a work in progress and currently requires a lot of manual work. My solution at the moment has been using circa Debian 6.0, Zhone and my own dirty hack control app (https://github.com/tjyrinki/tihos), but unfortunately I haven't done a clean install of my way that I could share with others. Some others use for example IceWM for window manager and launching applications like GPS. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works
2011/9/20 Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com: I did this but I only have the thin bar on top of freerunner, how do I start zphone after this? If you installed Zhone from experimental, you still need to add it to .xsession file (eg. zhone ) so that it automatically starts together with X similar to the openmoko-panel-plugin. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works
I did this but I only have the thin bar on top of freerunner, how do I start zphone after this? On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.comwrote: 2011/8/17 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com writes: 6. Get a bit more software manually: apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit midori wicd lxterminal xorg zhone/experimental python-ecore/experimental python-edje/experimental python-evas/experimental zhone-illume-glue/experimental Mandatory advertisement: Add monav to the list :-) And most of all, I forgot: omhacks. The essential tool. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works
I mean a gui, sorry but I am just an end-user On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 7:42 PM, Aditya Gandhi aditya...@gmail.com wrote: I did this but I only have the thin bar on top of freerunner, how do I start zphone after this? On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 4:56 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.comwrote: 2011/8/17 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com writes: 6. Get a bit more software manually: apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit midori wicd lxterminal xorg zhone/experimental python-ecore/experimental python-edje/experimental python-evas/experimental zhone-illume-glue/experimental Mandatory advertisement: Add monav to the list :-) And most of all, I forgot: omhacks. The essential tool. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner
Hi I have installed your image and have given the commands via ssh *apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal * *but no gui is up, how do I get it working? I do not have a sim, do I need it? * On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz. The only additional thing that was done was apt-get install xorg omhacks before I added those as being done by install.sh automatically. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner [2] http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is unpacked and a Qi bootlader. It is very much not functional as a phone out-of-the-box, because of the ongoing FSO1-FSO2 transition. X however starts automatically and SSH answers, and you may work your way from there, see [1] or even [3] (although it doesn't contain information on how to enable FSO2 at this moment when not everything new is yet in). When FSO2 is eventually in, together with some UI that can use it, let's improve install.sh again and maybe make a snapshot of a phone-working Debian unstable. I'm lazy enough not to try to replicate from clean state what I've running on my daily FreeRunner at the moment - it'd mean using install.sh but with stable repositories instead of unstable to have FSO1 and phone functionality, and then tweaking until all my little details work. It's anyhow going to be a thing of the past with FSO2 and new UI versions. [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner
Hi, Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz. The only additional thing that was done was apt-get install xorg omhacks before I added those as being done by install.sh automatically. [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner [2] http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/ It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is unpacked and a Qi bootlader. It is very much not functional as a phone out-of-the-box, because of the ongoing FSO1-FSO2 transition. X however starts automatically and SSH answers, and you may work your way from there, see [1] or even [3] (although it doesn't contain information on how to enable FSO2 at this moment when not everything new is yet in). When FSO2 is eventually in, together with some UI that can use it, let's improve install.sh again and maybe make a snapshot of a phone-working Debian unstable. I'm lazy enough not to try to replicate from clean state what I've running on my daily FreeRunner at the moment - it'd mean using install.sh but with stable repositories instead of unstable to have FSO1 and phone functionality, and then tweaking until all my little details work. It's anyhow going to be a thing of the past with FSO2 and new UI versions. [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt SDK from Nokia vs qt-sdk in debian
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 10:31:58 pm Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: Hi, Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: What is the difference between the SDK from nokia and the qt-sdk package in the debian repository ? I have no detailed knowledge on this but the changes that debian makes are visible as patch files. For example you can browse http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/qt4-x11/4:4.7.3-7 http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/qtcreator/2.2.1-1 Thanks for the pointer. Looking at this, the debian packages have several fixes and enhancements, so I will stick with them. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Qt SDK from Nokia vs qt-sdk in debian
Hi, What is the difference between the SDK from nokia and the qt-sdk package in the debian repository ? Is it simple to use one in place of the other ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Qt SDK from Nokia vs qt-sdk in debian
Hi, Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: What is the difference between the SDK from nokia and the qt-sdk package in the debian repository ? I have no detailed knowledge on this but the changes that debian makes are visible as patch files. For example you can browse http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/qt4-x11/4:4.7.3-7 http://patch-tracker.debian.org/package/qtcreator/2.2.1-1 -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works
Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com writes: 6. Get a bit more software manually: apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit midori wicd lxterminal xorg zhone/experimental python-ecore/experimental python-edje/experimental python-evas/experimental zhone-illume-glue/experimental Mandatory advertisement: Add monav to the list :-) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works (was: fails)
2011/7/20 e.waelde ew.ng7...@nassur.net: as of yesterday evening, installing a neo from scratch fails. I compiled again the 2.6.34 kernel yesterday evening, and uploaded it and got it finally properly into pkg-fso repository where as the working kernel used to linger in the incoming directory because of a few reprepro problems. I also updated install.sh to use that by default and tested that an install.sh run now works properly and the device boots! Try these to get started with Debian minimal installation at the moment: 1. Boot to other distribution that is on NAND, like QtMoko or SHR 2. wget -O install.sh http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/freerunner/install.sh 3. QI=true SINGLE_PART=true ./install.sh all 4. Reboot 5. Login via USB/ssh (default root password changeme) 6. Get a bit more software manually: apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit midori wicd lxterminal xorg zhone/experimental python-ecore/experimental python-edje/experimental python-evas/experimental zhone-illume-glue/experimental Debian still has those E17 Python bindings only in experimental, which is why a working Zhone is also now only in experimental. Note that there is a problem with the old FSO1 stack reported by Dmitry Chistikov in July. A new FSO2 stack is being uploaded to Debian now finally soon by the great work of Rico Rommel. After that we need people to work on updating eg. the Zhone2, SHR UI sofware and other FSO2 compliant stuff into Debian, together with needed E17 stuff. (more information at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner , or IRC/Freenode #openmoko-debian) -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: openmoko neo --- Debian install from scratch now works
2011/8/17 Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi: Timo Jyrinki timo.jyri...@gmail.com writes: 6. Get a bit more software manually: apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit midori wicd lxterminal xorg zhone/experimental python-ecore/experimental python-edje/experimental python-evas/experimental zhone-illume-glue/experimental Mandatory advertisement: Add monav to the list :-) And most of all, I forgot: omhacks. The essential tool. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] fso stack does not work
Dmitry Chistikov, Jul. 05, 2011, 09:07 +0400: frameworkd.subsystem ERRORfactory method not successfully completed for module module 'odeviced.input' from '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/framework/subsystems/odeviced/input.pyc' ...and a python call stack ending with NameError: global name 'c' is not defined. At the first glance I did not manage to mend it, though the issue is quite clear: c is a global variable initialized at the module level (c stands for C library). [...] I solved this with the following code: --- linux.py.orig 2011-07-05 15:29:11.0 +0400 +++ linux.py2011-07-05 15:26:20.0 +0400 @@ -19,12 +19,14 @@ re = compile('^libc.so.[0-9]$') libs = os.listdir('/lib') for lib in libs: if re.match(lib): c = ctypes.cdll.LoadLibrary(lib) break +else: +c = ctypes.cdll.LoadLibrary('libc.so.6') _IOC_NRBITS = 8 _IOC_TYPEBITS = 8 _IOC_SIZEBITS = 14 _IOC_DIRBITS = 2 The reason the original version does not work is as follows: root@ziggy:~# ls /lib | fgrep libc. root@ziggy:~# find /lib -name 'libc.*' /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libc.so.6 Is anyone interested in fixing this packaging bug? The main problem still persists, though =( -- Dmitry Chistikov ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] fso stack does not work
Timo Jyrinki, Jul. 02, 2011, 08:51 +0300: You can try to use stable repositories instead by modifying the install.sh script [...] Thank you for your advice. I managed to install from wheezy branch instead of sid. I got tslib with Timo Juhani Lindfors' patch from http://lindi.iki.fi/lindi/tslib/ and your kernel linux-image-2.6.34-openmoko-gta02_20101212.git049b71de-2 from http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/incoming/ . Touchscreen now works (thanks to both of you!). Unfortunately, I was not able to get the FSO stack to work. When I start fso-frameworkd service and invoke zhone, the latter reports gsm ok: Interface ... implementing 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network' at 0x4059aa90, but then stucks with Requesting resource GSM (full log attached). fsousage log says: Resource GSM can't be enabled: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.. Trying to disable instead. frameworkd contains several errors, including two python-related ones. While googleing reveals that the absence of pyrtc (python-rtc) is not fatal (is that correct?), there is more sinister-looking one: frameworkd.subsystem ERRORfactory method not successfully completed for module module 'odeviced.input' from '/usr/lib/pymodules/python2.6/framework/subsystems/odeviced/input.pyc' ...and a python call stack ending with NameError: global name 'c' is not defined. At the first glance I did not manage to mend it, though the issue is quite clear: c is a global variable initialized at the module level (c stands for C library). The log ends with a long sequence of messages from ogsmd continuously trying (unsuccessfully) to open channels MISC, UNSOL, CALL. FSO package versions are included in a separate attachment. Zhone is 0-git20110224+6bcb7fc4-1. Has anyone encountered the same issue? Am I missing something? or is it that Debian FSO packages are broken at the moment? -- Dmitry Chistikov fso-config-gta02 20100210 fso-frameworkd 0.9.5.9+git20100131-4 fso-gpsd 0.8-3.1 fso-gsm0710muxd 0.9.3.1-3 fso-sounds-yue-base 20081031-2 fso-usaged 0.9.1.1+git20100507-1 fso-utils 0.git20090919.1 libfso-glib0 2010.05.11.2-1.2 libfsobasics0 0.9.0+git20100509-2 libfsoframework0 0.2.4+git20100501-1 2011-07-04 19:47:55,605 WARNING could not load illume interface module 2011-07-04 19:47:56,344 DEBUG GUI init 2011-07-04 19:47:59,434 DEBUG GUI init done 2011-07-04 19:47:59,444 DEBUG entering mainloop 2011-07-04 19:47:59,643 DEBUG dbus_objectInit... 2011-07-04 19:47:59,696 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.frameworkd:/org/freesmartphone/Framework 2011-07-04 19:47:59,745 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.ousaged:/org/freesmartphone/Usage 2011-07-04 19:47:59,798 DEBUG usage ok: Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.104 /org/freesmartphone/Usage at 0x4053dc30 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Usage' at 0x4053dd10 2011-07-04 19:47:59,818 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.ogpsd:/org/freedesktop/Gypsy 2011-07-04 19:48:00,020 DEBUG gps ok: Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.96 /org/freedesktop/Gypsy at 0x4053df10 implementing 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Accuracy' at 0x4059a110, Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.96 /org/freedesktop/Gypsy at 0x4053df10 implementing 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Position' at 0x4059a390, Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.96 /org/freedesktop/Gypsy at 0x4053df10 implementing 'org.freedesktop.Gypsy.Satellite' at 0x4059a4d0 2011-07-04 19:48:00,048 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.ogsmd:/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device 2011-07-04 19:48:00,088 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.ogsmd:/org/freesmartphone/GSM/Server 2011-07-04 19:48:00,283 DEBUG gsm ok: Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.97 /org/freesmartphone/GSM/Device at 0x4059a8b0 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.GSM.Network' at 0x4059aa90 2011-07-04 19:48:00,326 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.odeviced:/org/freesmartphone/Device 2011-07-04 19:48:00,364 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.odeviced:/org/freesmartphone/Device/IdleNotifier/0 2011-07-04 19:48:00,463 DEBUG device ok: Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.94 /org/freesmartphone/Device at 0x405a00d0 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Device' at 0x405a0190 2011-07-04 19:48:00,483 INFO cached proxy for org.freesmartphone.opreferencesd:/org/freesmartphone/Preferences 2011-07-04 19:48:00,503 DEBUG preferences ok: Interface ProxyObject wrapping dbus._dbus.SystemBus (system) at 0x40550390 :1.101 /org/freesmartphone/Preferences at 0x405a05b0 implementing 'org.freesmartphone.Preferences' at 0x405a0690 2011-07-04 19:48:00,521 DEBUG failcount = 0 2011-07-04 19:48:00,532 DEBUG
[debian] cannot bootstrap libc6
Hello, I'm trying to install Debian on Openmoko Freerunner and have encountered the following problem. Both cdebootstrap and debootstrap fail to install a basic Debian system (stage debian of install.sh). Packages are downloaded and extracted, but dpkg is refusing to install libc6: === [...] I: Extracting zlib1g... I: Installing core packages... W: Failure trying to run: chroot /mnt/debian dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-8_armel.deb root@hackable1:~# chroot /mnt/debian dpkg --force-depends --install /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-8_armel.deb (Reading database ... 349 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking libc6 (from .../libc6_2.13-8_armel.deb) ... A copy of the C library was found in an unexpected directory: '/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libc-2.13.so' It is not safe to upgrade the C library in this situation; please remove that copy of the C library or get it out of '/lib/arm-linux-gnueabi' and try again. dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-8_armel.deb (--install): subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6_2.13-8_armel.deb === If libc-2.13.so and libc.so.6 are then moved to /lib, then dpkg begins to wail about /lib/arm-linux-gnueabi/libdl-2.13.so, which suddenly emerges out of nowhere. On next iteration there appears libm... So, as far as I can see, all these files are just being unpacked from the very package I ask dpkg to install. Does this mean that Debian sid (unstable) armel is broken at the moment? How can this problem be dealt with? Changing --force-depends to --force-all does not help. -- Dmitry Chistikov ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] cannot bootstrap libc6
2011/7/1 Dmitry Chistikov dd1em...@gmail.com: I'm trying to install Debian on Openmoko Freerunner and have encountered the following problem. Both cdebootstrap and debootstrap fail to install a basic Debian system (stage debian of install.sh). Packages are downloaded and extracted, but dpkg is refusing to install libc6: ... Does this mean that Debian sid (unstable) armel is broken at the moment? How can this problem be dealt with? Changing --force-depends to --force-all does not help. I'm not an expert on the installer, but unfortunately it may mean so. You can try to use stable repositories instead by modifying the install.sh script - you just need to make sure that you then don't specify any phone software like Zhone at the install time, since those are only available with the E17 that is in unstable and not in the latest Debian release. I've been meaning to try out if that'd work for some time, but haven't got a suitable extra microsd card and time slot to check it out. Then if you get a minimal installation ongoing, it's much easier to install more software and experiment in a bootable system. The unstable anyway is in a shaky situation at the moment, as still the Python E17 dependencies are not in so they are also not installable. -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] experimentation with ofono, telepathy-ring and empathy...
Hi, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 01:53:59PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: I thought this worth mentioning just in case others are doing similar things: I'm experimenting with the stack mentioned in the Subject, on my debian install, to see what kind of UI it gives, and how stable the telephony is. Can you elaborate on how you approached that issue so that others can reproduce your findings? cheers, josch ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] experimentation with ofono, telepathy-ring and empathy...
Hi Johannes, On 23 June 2011 12:24, Johannes Schauer j.scha...@email.de wrote: Hi, On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 01:53:59PM +, Neil Jerram wrote: I thought this worth mentioning just in case others are doing similar things: I'm experimenting with the stack mentioned in the Subject, on my debian install, to see what kind of UI it gives, and how stable the telephony is. Can you elaborate on how you approached that issue so that others can reproduce your findings? Unfortunately I no longer have the details to refer to. But as far as I recall, it was something like... - Install oFono. It was 0.36 at the time, and it looks like that's still the latest in Debian, even though I believe upstream has had several releases since that. - Start ofonod, then play with test scripts like `list-modems' and `enable-modem'. - Discover that nothing happens because calypso hasn't been detected. I wrote a patch to fix that, and sent it to the oFono guys. AFAIK that is in the upstream code now, so a more recent oFono release should detect calypso out of the box. - `list-modems' and `enable-modem' now work. - Install telepathy-ring and empathy, and see what happens - and I wrote about that earlier (but a long time ago) in this same thread. Does that help? Please feel free to ask more detailed questions, and I'll do my best! Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel - internet access on phone
(Alioth up again, thanks Timo) Weird issue. I had no problem a few days ago with internet access on the the phone. Now I connect fine with the pc but cannot get access to the internet on the phone. Cannot think of anything that has changed, any ideaS? Connect with; sudo ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev eth2 sudo ip link set dev eth2 up ssh root@192.168.0.202 ifconfig on pc eth2 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1f:11:01:0e:68 inet addr:192.168.0.200 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::21f:11ff:fe01:e68/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:739 errors:1 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:490 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:71970 (70.2 KiB) TX bytes:51814 (50.5 KiB) ifconfig on phone and route; usb0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:1F:11:01:0E:67 inet addr:192.168.0.202 Bcast:192.168.0.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:546 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:866 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:49326 (48.1 KiB) TX bytes:95962 (93.7 KiB) root@om-gta02 ~ # route Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse Iface 192.168.0.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 00 usb0 default 192.168.0.200 0.0.0.0 UG8 00 usb0 -- - Eric Smith Eric Smith said: I also cannot find a kernel image either through the install or by googling. E: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.29-openmoko-gta02 Any ideas short of compiling? -- - Eric Smith Eric Smith said: Has anyone recently successfully installed debian on the gta02? I am getting errors that I think are all related to retrieve errors. And are there any other FSO mirrors as this one is not accessible, http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian -- - Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel - internet access on phone
Hi, 1) How about iptables -nvL iptables -nvL -t nat on the PC? 2) And /etc/resolv.conf on the phone? 3) Try ping -n 192.168.4.200 on the phone? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel - internet access on phone
Thanks Timo. Timo Juhani Lindfors said: 1) How about iptables -nvL iptables -nvL -t nat on the PC? eric@debian:~$ sudo iptables -nvL WARNING: All config files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/libpisock9, it will be ignored in a future release. Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination eric@debian:~$ sudo iptables -nvL -t nat Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 2) And /etc/resolv.conf on the phone? root@om-gta02 ~ # cat /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 208.67.222.222 nameserver 208.67.220.220 3) Try ping -n 192.168.4.200 on the phone? root@om-gta02 ~ # ping -n 192.168.4.200 ping: invalid option -- 'n' BusyBox v1.18.4 (2011-05-19 22:07:46 CEST) multi-call binary. Usage: ping [OPTIONS] HOST Send ICMP ECHO_REQUEST packets to network hosts Options: -4,-6 Force IP or IPv6 name resolution -c CNT Send only CNT pings -s SIZE Send SIZE data bytes in packets (default:56) -I IFACE/IP Use interface or IP address as source -W SEC Seconds to wait for the first response (default:10) (after all -c CNT packets are sent) -w SEC Seconds until ping exits (default:infinite) (can exit earlier with -c CNT) -q Quiet, only displays output at start and when finished root@om-gta02 ~ # ping 192.168.4.200 PING 192.168.4.200 (192.168.4.200): 56 data bytes tick tock ^C --- 192.168.4.200 ping statistics --- 106 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss oot@om-gta02 ~ # ping 192.168.0.200 PING 192.168.0.200 (192.168.0.200): 56 data bytes 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms 64 bytes from 192.168.0.200: seq=1 ttl=64 time=0.000 ms ^C ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel - internet access on phone
Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: eric@debian:~$ sudo iptables -nvL -t nat Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination This shows that there is no NAT. Your phone can't talk to the outside world using its private 192.168.4.202 address. You need to setup NAT that translates packets between public and private address. Something like iptables -A POSTROUTING -o net -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.4.0/24 echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward should work assuming that your upstream interface is called net like here. Yours might be eth0? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel - internet access on phone
Thanks Timo eric@htpc7:~$ sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -o net -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.4.0/24 eric@htpc7:~$ sudo -i htpc7:~# echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward htpc7:~# htpc7:~# sudo iptables -nvL -t nat Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 3 packets, 748 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 3 packets, 176 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 MASQUERADE all -- * net 192.168.4.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 3 packets, 176 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination htpc7:~# ping 192.168.4.202 PING 192.168.4.202 (192.168.4.202) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- 192.168.4.202 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4015ms -- - Eric Smith Timo Juhani Lindfors said: Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: eric@debian:~$ sudo iptables -nvL -t nat Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination This shows that there is no NAT. Your phone can't talk to the outside world using its private 192.168.4.202 address. You need to setup NAT that translates packets between public and private address. Something like iptables -A POSTROUTING -o net -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.4.0/24 echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward should work assuming that your upstream interface is called net like here. Yours might be eth0? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel - internet access on phone
Hi Eric, Use the below method and script to ssh into the Neo and share the internet connection with your laptop.I always use it from any Linux machine and it works like charm -- On your Laptop -- 1) Type ifconfig -a before connecting the Neo through usb 2) Now connect Neo through usb and again type ifconfig -a , whichever the new interface visible which was not there is Step 1 is the interface for Neo , usually it is either usb0 or eth0. 3) save the below script as startmyneo :) -- Any name u want .. ..chmod 755 that script and then run the below script just passing the interface name found above in step 2 as the parameter 1 and the internet interface on your laptop as parameter 1 ) mine is wlan0 on my laptop-- root@bt# ./startmyneo usb0 wlan0 Please note -- while running this script might ask for the root password on Neo as we are ssh ing into it. Here is the startmyneo script , which you can save on your deskop and has to be run from your desktop -- #!/bin/bash interface=$1 desktop_inet_interface=$2 ip address add 192.168.0.200/24 dev $interface ifconfig $interface 192.168.0.200 netmask 255.255.255.0 up route add -host 192.168.0.202 dev $interface ssh root@192.168.0.202 #this section is for the internet on NEO from ur Desktop in between net n Neo echo nameserver 192.168.0.1 /etc/resolv.conf echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_dynaddr modprobe ip_tables modprobe iptable_nat modprobe ipt_MASQUERADE iptables -t filter -F iptables -t nat-F iptables -t filter -P INPUT ACCEPT iptables -t filter -P FORWARD ACCEPT iptables -t filter -P OUTPUT ACCEPT iptables -t nat-P PREROUTING ACCEPT iptables -t nat-P POSTROUTING ACCEPT iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $desktop_inet_interface -s 192.168.0.0/24-j MASQUERADE Thanks Shamsul Courage is contagious On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:03 PM, Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com wrote: Thanks Timo eric@htpc7:~$ sudo iptables -A POSTROUTING -o net -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.4.0/24 eric@htpc7:~$ sudo -i htpc7:~# echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward htpc7:~# htpc7:~# sudo iptables -nvL -t nat Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 3 packets, 748 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 3 packets, 176 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination 0 0 MASQUERADE all -- * net 192.168.4.0/24 0.0.0.0/0 Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 3 packets, 176 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination htpc7:~# ping 192.168.4.202 PING 192.168.4.202 (192.168.4.202) 56(84) bytes of data. ^C --- 192.168.4.202 ping statistics --- 5 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 4015ms -- - Eric Smith Timo Juhani Lindfors said: Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: eric@debian:~$ sudo iptables -nvL -t nat Chain PREROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain POSTROUTING (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT 0 packets, 0 bytes) pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination This shows that there is no NAT. Your phone can't talk to the outside world using its private 192.168.4.202 address. You need to setup NAT that translates packets between public and private address. Something like iptables -A POSTROUTING -o net -t nat -j MASQUERADE -s 192.168.4.0/24 echo 1 /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward should work assuming that your upstream interface is called net like here. Yours might be eth0? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Installing debian - fso and tasks routine fails
All install phases proceeded without error until the fso routine which failed with this error: root@om-gta02 ~ # sh -x debme + HOSTNAME=neo SD_SWAP_SIZE=512 INST_MIRROR=ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ FSO_MIRROR=http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian VERBOSE=1 QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ZHONE=true time ./install.sh fso I: Invoking stage fso I: Installing freesmartphone.org software I: /proc is already mounted in chroot * core packages I: invoke-rc.d is already diverted - was previous install interrupted? Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-input-tslib : Depends: xorg-input-abi-11 but it is not installable E: Broken packages Command exited with non-zero status 100 And the tasks routine also fails like this; HOSTNAME=neo SD_SWAP_SIZE=512 INST_MIRROR=ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/ FSO_MIRROR=http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian VERBOSE=1 QI=true QI_VERBOSE_BOOT=true ZHONE=true TASKS=COM,GPS,NET, WIFI,UTILS ./install.sh tasks I: Invoking stage tasks I: Performing selected tasks: COM,GPS,NET,WIFI,UTILS I: /proc is already mounted in chroot * task: COM Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following information may help to resolve the situation: The following packages have unmet dependencies: zhone : Depends: python-ecore but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-edje but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-evas but it is not going to be installed Depends: libevas-svn-06-engines-x but it is not installable Depends: zhone-illume-glue but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages kernel is cool; Setting up linux-image-2.6.29-openmoko-gta02 (20100313.git973a41fc-1) ... I: Kernel installed Prepare system for booting with Qi I: Installing kernel package - done I: Done with stage kernel Thanks for any help. -- - Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - fso and tasks routine fails
Hi, [Please use just smartphones-userland@ in the future, sending the same thing to two mailing lists is not very nice for those who read both lists.] Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: root@om-gta02 ~ # sh -x debme Hmm, what's debme? The following packages have unmet dependencies: xserver-xorg-input-tslib : Depends: xorg-input-abi-11 but it is not installable E: Broken packages This is http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=627075 As pointed out in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=623095 we have a problem with tslib: it now wants a kernel newer than 2.6.29 and nobody has had time to figure out what to do about it. The following packages have unmet dependencies: zhone : Depends: python-ecore but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-edje but it is not going to be installed Depends: python-evas but it is not going to be installed Depends: libevas-svn-06-engines-x but it is not installable Depends: zhone-illume-glue but it is not going to be installed E: Broken packages Hmm, I can't immediately find a bug report about that. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Installing debian
Has anyone recently successfully installed debian on the gta02? I am getting errors that I think are all related to retrieve errors. And are there any other FSO mirrors as this one is not accessible, http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian -- - Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian
Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: And are there any other FSO mirrors as this one is not accessible, http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian Thanks for you interest. Alioth is being moved to new hardware. Please try again in a week or so: http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2011/05/msg0.html If you still hit problems, please attach the complete output that you get from install.sh. Also, you might want to use the http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/smartphones-userland mailing list so that we are more likely to notice a debian specific issue from all the other community@ traffic. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Installing debian - kernel
I also cannot find a kernel image either through the install or by googling. E: Unable to locate package linux-image-2.6.29-openmoko-gta02 Any ideas short of compiling? -- - Eric Smith Eric Smith said: Has anyone recently successfully installed debian on the gta02? I am getting errors that I think are all related to retrieve errors. And are there any other FSO mirrors as this one is not accessible, http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian -- - Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Debian] 2.6.37 kernel available (and about the touch screen, X driver problem)
Thank you very much! Will it be available with apt-get update in QtMoko? Giacomo -- ## giacomo 'giotti' mariani gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-key 0x99bfa859 O ASCII ribbon campaign: stop HTML mail www.asciiribbon.org ## ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[Debian] 2.6.37 kernel available (and about the touch screen X driver problem)
Hi, During the night my native Neo compilation of 2.6.37 kernel succeeded, and is now uploaded to Debian's pkg-fso repository [1]. The sources are in git [2] as well, although this was again a complete rebase. [1] http://pkg-fso.alioth.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6-qtmoko/ [2] http://git.debian.org/?p=pkg-fso/linux-2.6-openmoko.git The new package name reflects the fact that the upstream is QtMoko's git repository, which adopted our Debian packaging as well recently. There was a hint reportedly on IRC that the recent touch screen problem with Debian unstable would be caused by xserver-xorg-input-tslib being compiled against more recent kernel headers. Alas, it seems that touch screen even on this 2.6.37 kernel didn't start to work right away. Maybe with 2.6.39/2.6.40 then, which also have more upstreamed Openmoko drivers once again (thanks to those people). Anyway, it's now available for experimentation, and if you are staying more with Debian 6.0 like I do on my daily phone, it might be actually a great kernel to use - I haven't tested it yet. Below is the changelog including the previous Debian version (QtMoko took the packaging of one before it) and QtMoko: --- linux-2.6-qtmoko (20110412.git425779c72-1) pkg-fso; urgency=low * Rebase on qtmoko-2.6.37-v35 branch of QtMoko - Packaging of which was based on 20101108.git1508bbb5-1 * Add back requested configuration switches: - CONFIG_TASKSTATS, CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT, CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING - CONFIG_LBDAF, CONFIG_PROC_EVENTS, CONFIG_EXT*_FS_XATTR - CONFIG_NFS_V4, CONFIG_NFDS_V4 - CONFIG_OPENMOKO_RESUME_REASON * Add patches that still apply: - 0007-Make-PTRACE_SINGLESTEP-work-with-user-helpers.patch - 0008-Do-not-print-debug-messages-on-every-touchscreen-eve.patch * Adjust Maintainer and Uploaders -- Timo Jyrinki t...@debian.org Thu, 28 Apr 2011 18:22:36 +0300 linux-2.6-openmoko (20101212.git049b71de-1) pkg-fso; urgency=low * Merge from qtmoko-v31 - Kernel 2.6.34.7 - Integrated GPS suspend patch, resume reason patch - Dumb battery support * Disable sysrq, unneeded * Add configuration from wishlists: - NFSv4 - XATTR for EXT* - CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT, CONFIG_TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING - CONFIG_OPENMOKO_RESUME_REASON * Remove 2.6.29 era patches and others that don't apply anymore -- Timo Jyrinki t...@debian.org Wed, 15 Dec 2010 19:32:13 +0200 linux-2.6-qtmoko (v34-1) unstable; urgency=low * Update sources to 2.6.37 from openmoko git * Port qtmoko patches from 2.6.34 * QtMoko config -- Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz Wed, 23 Mar 2011 14:33:56 +0100 --- -Timo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised
Thanks Timo What parameters did you give to install.sh? In particular, which boot loader are you using and how is it configured? TASKS=ALL QI=true SD_SWAP_SIZE=128 DASH_BINSH=false ./install.sh all anyways I think this is the command I issued on the single occasion that the install process completed. Qi bootloader not configured and just flashed as per the manual. I do not understand why the Debian maintainers did not create a static respository istead of linking to unstable that is a moving target. I will give this another try when I have some more time. Any suggestions on how to get a standard debian installed on sdcard most welcome. The UI does not interest me, I want to install a JRE and som proprietory software that runs on the JVM. Thanks. Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised
Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: I do not understand why the Debian maintainers did not create a static respository istead of linking to unstable that is a moving target. You mean like take lenny and provide unofficial repository of openmoko specific packages for it? I guess there are multiple problem. I understood that many freesmartphone.org programs required software that is not in lenny and a massive backport effort would have been in order. Install.sh definitely suffers from the fact that unstable changes constantly. I will give this another try when I have some more time. You probably need JTAG to debug Qi though? With u-boot you'd at least get error messages to both display and USB. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised
Hi After about 90 minutes, the install.sh all command completed with request to reboot. No errors reported. On power on, it boots into the old Qtmoko. When I explicitly boot from microSD on the NOR screen, it flashes an error than uImage.bin not recognised - no kernel image By deafult the new boot partition is mounted when it boots into the Qtmoko and I get a listing neo:~# ls -lrt /media/card total 2216 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1509096 Aug 7 15:10 uImage.bin-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 682681 Aug 7 15:10 System.map-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 51778 Aug 7 15:12 config-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc drwx-- 2 root root 12288 Jan 29 19:01 lost+found lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Jan 29 19:52 uImage.bin - uImage.bin-2.6.29-20100313.git973a41fc Which to me looks pretty healthy. The paritions on the SD are: neo:~# fdisk -l /dev/mmcblk0 Disk /dev/mmcblk0: 2027 MB, 2027945984 bytes 4 heads, 16 sectors/track, 61888 cylinders Units = cylinders of 64 * 512 = 32768 bytes Disk identifier: 0xde50b0d4 Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/mmcblk0p1 1 2457832 83 Linux /dev/mmcblk0p2 246 61888 1972576 83 Linux And the last one seems to be fully poulated There is a warning on the http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner not to type reboot: but use the buttons which is what I did, but the manual on http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Debian says the opposite. How do I get out of this problem and into the debian install. - Eric Smith ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised
Eric Smith e...@fruitcom.com writes: After about 90 minutes, the install.sh all command completed with request to reboot. No errors reported. On power on, it boots into the old Qtmoko. What parameters did you give to install.sh? In particular, which boot loader are you using and how is it configured? When I explicitly boot from microSD on the NOR screen, You should not use NOR u-boot for anything else than flashing. There is a warning on the http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner not to type reboot: but use the buttons I don't think this is your real problem but the warning indeed makes no sense to me. Jidanni, you added this paragraph to the wiki in 2008, do you remember why? http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner?action=diffrev1=78rev2=79 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: debian installed, uImage.bin not recognised
TJL == Timo Juhani Lindfors timo.lindf...@iki.fi writes: TJL no sense to me. Jidanni, you added this paragraph to the wiki in 2008, TJL do you remember why? All I remember is I traded my OpenMoko in for a Nokia 3315 and would rather not think further. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] won't boot
On Monday 17 January 2011 02:36:49 Robin Paulson wrote: i recently installed qtmoko v26 on internal flash, and from there used the wiki instructions to install debian on sd. the install ran all the way through, and gave a me a message that all was well. except, it won't boot. i have qi installed, and if i read the wiki correctly, it will auto boot the first os on the sd card, so long as the kernel is in the correct position. so, i put some symlinks in /boot (in the 2nd partition on the sd), pointing to uImage, config and sysmap (in the first partition on the sd). it still won't boot, and i'm a bit lost now. You can try hold POWER buttton when you are booting, qi will make kernel more verbose so you can see the actual error. Also please make sure you have append-GTA02 whith rootwait parameter on your SD card: cd /boot echo console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait append-GTA02 you can also try e.g. rootdelay=10 instead of rootwait. Regards Radek ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] won't boot
On 17 January 2011 21:21, Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz wrote: so, i put some symlinks in /boot (in the 2nd partition on the sd), pointing to uImage, config and sysmap (in the first partition on the sd). it still won't boot, and i'm a bit lost now. You can try hold POWER buttton when you are booting, qi will make kernel more verbose so you can see the actual error. very verbose. but i don't know what i'm looking for, so kind of stuck any suggestions? anything i can look for in a log (it's also moving kind of fast)? Also please make sure you have append-GTA02 whith rootwait parameter on your SD card: cd /boot echo console=tty0 loglevel=3 rootwait append-GTA02 you can also try e.g. rootdelay=10 instead of rootwait. i tried that, and still not getting anything. also, doesn't the debian install script handle all that? i recall trying this over a year ago and it worked flawlessly -- robin http://tangleball.org.nz/ - Auckland's Creative Space http://bumblepuppy.org/blog/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] won't boot
On Tuesday 18 January 2011 02:15:37 Robin Paulson wrote: You can try hold POWER buttton when you are booting, qi will make kernel more verbose so you can see the actual error. very verbose. but i don't know what i'm looking for, so kind of stuck any suggestions? anything i can look for in a log (it's also moving kind of fast)? Interesting place is where rootfs is mounted. Most ofter this step fails and them messages stop with something like unable to mount rootfs. i tried that, and still not getting anything. also, doesn't the debian install script handle all that? i recall trying this over a year ago and it worked flawlessly I am not fan of big shell scripts. The problem is that you don't know what is happening. I have howto for manual install of qtmoko [1] or there is quite good wiki for manually installing debian. Regards Radek [1] https://github.com/radekp/qtmoko/blob/master/doc/txt/debian_rootfs_howto.txt [2] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manual_Debian ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community