Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-23 Thread Adam Ward
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:58:18 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date? But I'm afraid I don't know the answers. I

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Adam Ward
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:23 AM Neil Jerram wrote: Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct.

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:23 AM Neil Jerram wrote: Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Radek Polak
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date? But I'm afraid I don't know the answers. I was using FSO from git at the time when i was

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-21 Thread Adam Ward
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there was no work for this device done

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Neil Jerram
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd instead However I was told that adding

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Jiří Pinkava
On 08/03/2012 05:15 PM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Paul Fertser
Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org writes: This said, oFono does have one very compelling feature: on my N900, it works reliably. Far better than any version of FSO that I ever managed to put on my FreeRunner ever did. If you think that Nokia's N900 firmware is using oFono, you're wrong. Or do

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd instead However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not be

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
Enrico Zini enr...@enricozini.org writes: What I think is needed now are components that give existing distributions capabilities they didn't have before. Then to see what people develop on top of them. +1 But to be appealing to developers who are new to the system (which basically means,

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Dr. Michael Lauer
Hi, Arguably those two paragraphs are already well satisfied by oFono. oFono probably now has the advantage in terms of maturity and deployment, is compilable by a standard C compiler, and has a recent version packaged in Debian. FSO is compilable with a standard C compiler as well. Every

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
Dr. Michael Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de writes: Hi, Arguably those two paragraphs are already well satisfied by oFono. oFono probably now has the advantage in terms of maturity and deployment, is compilable by a standard C compiler, and has a recent version packaged in Debian. FSO is

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-24 Thread Simon Busch
Am 24.07.2012 11:27, schrieb Thomas Munker: Hi, i thought the ui is saving the volume values where it should (using opreference interface), but fso doesn't pick them up. There's an old bugreport in shr-track [0], that suggests it's fso's fault. Maybe this should be clarified. I've found a new

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-24 Thread Thamos
Thanks a lot, you'r the greatest :) Am 24.07.2012 18:17, schrieb Simon Busch: Am 24.07.2012 11:27, schrieb Thomas Munker: Hi, i thought the ui is saving the volume values where it should (using opreference interface), but fso doesn't pick them up. There's an old bugreport in shr-track [0],

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-23 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there was no work for this device done in FSO, so i rather added gta04 modem plugin based on

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 21.07.2012 21:44, schrieb Thamos: Hi all. I've never seen someone using the conference-feature. I think selecting the provider is more important. (this one really annoys me, since i am near an border and simply can't phone until i get out auf alien range, if the phone switched one time, even

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 02:24, schrieb Kai Lüke: Hello, I think these all together will be fine. The only thing I have in my mind beside these is something I ever wanted to try but never did: redirecting sound (e.g. a sound file with pause melody or answerphone) to the call input. It depends a lot on

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 03:39, schrieb Pierre Pronchery: Hi Simon, lists, On 21/07/2012 20:45, Simon Busch wrote: as a lot of you may have noticed we did two releases in the past months of the FSO stack. Both were related to bring stability and consistence to the stack. Now I want to

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your missing features? What do you like and what not? All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 12:03, schrieb Neil Jerram: All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and compelling things to work on. But your wider problem is that you're working in a vacuum, because there's no reasonably widely used phone distribution that uses FSO and that is also

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Rico Rommel
Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012, 12:03:38 schrieb Neil Jerram: But your wider problem is that you're working in a vacuum, because there's no reasonably widely used phone distribution that uses FSO and that is also regularly and safely updated. That means you have no users for your incremental

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread rakshat hooja
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.netwrote: Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your missing features? What do you like

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 13:52, schrieb rakshat hooja: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.netwrote: Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are

About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-21 Thread Simon Busch
Hey everybody, as a lot of you may have noticed we did two releases in the past months of the FSO stack. Both were related to bring stability and consistence to the stack. Now I want to talk with you about the future of the stack. In the past we were only concentrating on getting new hardware

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-21 Thread Thamos
Hi all. I've never seen someone using the conference-feature. I think selecting the provider is more important. (this one really annoys me, since i am near an border and simply can't phone until i get out auf alien range, if the phone switched one time, even reboot doesn't help...). I also miss

Re: About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-21 Thread Kai Lüke
Hello, I think these all together will be fine. The only thing I have in my mind beside these is something I ever wanted to try but never did: redirecting sound (e.g. a sound file with pause melody or answerphone) to the call input. But just an idea, thanks! Kai Am 21.07.2012 21:44, schrieb