Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Michael Shiloh

 The battery usually lays in just like it does in the phone.  The battery
 will fit into the Nokia, but I'd be surprised if the Nokia agreed to charge
 it, since it won't recognize it.

Exactly right. My understanding is this:

Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge 
non-Nokia batteries, most likely because they can't be sure they have 
the correct charging parameters.

Most after-market or no-name brands of Nokia-compatible chargers don't 
test the make of the battery, most likely because adding the capability 
to perform this test would add to the cost of the charger.

Thus:

* You can use a Nokia or Nokia-compatible BL-4C, BL-5C, or BL-6C in the Neo

* You can charge the Neo battery in a Nokia-compatible charger that is 
not Nokia branded

* You can NOT charge the Neo battery in a Nokia branded phone or charger

Michael

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Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Nick Matteo
On Tue, Sep 30, 2008 at 5:11 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exactly right. My understanding is this:

 Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge
 non-Nokia batteries, most likely because they can't be sure they have
 the correct charging parameters.

 Most after-market or no-name brands of Nokia-compatible chargers don't
 test the make of the battery, most likely because adding the capability
 to perform this test would add to the cost of the charger.

 Thus:

 * You can use a Nokia or Nokia-compatible BL-4C, BL-5C, or BL-6C in the Neo

 * You can charge the Neo battery in a Nokia-compatible charger that is
 not Nokia branded

 * You can NOT charge the Neo battery in a Nokia branded phone or charger

 Michael

Thanks for this helpfully complete characterization.
Do you happen to know if a Nokia battery (such as the BL-5c) will
charge in the FreeRunner?

Thanks,
Nick

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Re: Charging a Neo battery in a Nokia charger or phone (was: Re: dead battery)

2008-09-30 Thread Dale Schumacher
On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 5:11 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Nokia devices (phones and stand-alone chargers) will not charge
 non-Nokia batteries, most likely because they can't be sure they have
 the correct charging parameters.

 Most after-market or no-name brands of Nokia-compatible chargers don't
 test the make of the battery, most likely because adding the capability
 to perform this test would add to the cost of the charger.

 Thus:

 * You can use a Nokia or Nokia-compatible BL-4C, BL-5C, or BL-6C in the Neo

 * You can charge the Neo battery in a Nokia-compatible charger that is
 not Nokia branded

 * You can NOT charge the Neo battery in a Nokia branded phone or charger

Added to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Neo_FreeRunner_Battery#USB_charger

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