Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes: See the second pin from the left? I assumed it was pin 4 (ID) because of the pinout images on Wikipedia, but I think it may actually be pin 2 (D-). I think it is D- and it is broken, so yes, the only option is to replace the socket it seems... -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Not using a hub (same ports on the same laptop) - some cables work, some dont, only the cable differs :( BillK On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 08:58 +0100, Ed Kapitein wrote: Or try a diffrent hub/no hub at all. My FR works fine with the same cable plugged into my desktop POC, but when i plug the same cable in one of my hubs, it only charges and no data connection is possible Kind regrads, Ed On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 15:39 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: I'll second that - bought two cables while on holiday as I forgot to pack one. Neither will work for data, but will charge. The others I have at home work fine. BillK On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:11 +1100, Michael Smith wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. Have you tried a different USB cable? -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes: ID 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle Ok this proves that the usb controller is alive and the problem is probably just mechanical. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
William Kenworthy wrote: Not using a hub (same ports on the same laptop) - some cables work, some dont, only the cable differs :( I am not using a USB hub either. I have USB cables which work fine for both power + data with other devices, such as a 2.5 HDD enclosure, but do not work with my FreeRunner. :( Is it possible my USB port problem is caused by pin 4 (ID) of the mini USB connector(s)? See the “USB 1.x/2.0 Miniplug/Microplug” table on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Serial_Busoldid=347473693#Cables. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
On Thursday 04 March 2010, Brolin Empey wrote: William Kenworthy wrote: Not using a hub (same ports on the same laptop) - some cables work, some dont, only the cable differs :( I am not using a USB hub either. I have USB cables which work fine for both power + data with other devices, such as a 2.5 HDD enclosure, but do not work with my FreeRunner. :( Is it possible my USB port problem is caused by pin 4 (ID) of the mini USB connector(s)? See the “USB 1.x/2.0 Miniplug/Microplug” table on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Serial_Busoldid=34747 3693#Cables. Pin 4 is not normally connected in usb cables, so that shouldn't be it. If you have a problem with pin 4 the most likely issue would be not recognising the mains charger as a high current device. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Al Johnson wrote: On Thursday 04 March 2010, Brolin Empey wrote: Is it possible my USB port problem is caused by pin 4 (ID) of the mini USB connector(s)? See the “USB 1.x/2.0 Miniplug/Microplug” table on http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Universal_Serial_Busoldid=34747 3693#Cables. Pin 4 is not normally connected in usb cables, so that shouldn't be it. If you have a problem with pin 4 the most likely issue would be not recognising the mains charger as a high current device. I disassembled my FreeRunner again and used a digital multimeter to verify the continuity between the ends of the pins in the USB socket and the USB socket’s leads connected to the PCB. All pins are connected, but only if the contact in the plug on the USB cable contacts the pin in the socket. I tried to take a clear photo of my FreeRunner’s USB socket without using a microscope or other magnifying device other than my camera’s lens, but I could not get a completely satisfactory (completely clear) photo. Now I need to recharge my camera’s battery after I am home tonight, but I cannot add a task in QtMoko to remind me because my FreeRunner is still disassembled. :( I moved my active SIM card to my crappy Nokia 6103b so I still have a phone until my FreeRunner is fixed. Anyway, here is a cropped version of one of the best photos I managed to take: http://brolin.be/graphics/FreeRunner_Mini_USB_F_5-pin.jpg See the second pin from the left? I assumed it was pin 4 (ID) because of the pinout images on Wikipedia, but I think it may actually be pin 2 (D-). This would explain why Windows claims my FreeRunner has malfunctioned: because only one of the data lines is connected. In any case, there are at least 2 strange things about that exceptional pin: 1. Why does it not have black plastic above it like the other 4 pins? 2. Why does it not go up to contact the contacts in the plug on the USB cable like the other pins? Did I somehow end up bending it like that? I need to have someone at work replace the entire USB socket (assuming we have a spare). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. I need to try disassembling my FreeRunner to check the connections for the USB connector so I can ask someone at work to fix (resolder) the connection, but I have not yet done so. It must be a hardware problem because QtMoko can still charge, but nothing happens when I connect USB devices to my FreeRunner: no kernel modules are automatically loaded, there are no kernel messages. Manually loading the kernel modules (e.g., dm9601 for my USB→Ethernet adapter) for the USB device does not help. It is not because of the electrical/logical USB host/device setting because I checked that; I know how to use sysfs to change it. Update: I disassembled my FreeRunner; everything looks OK. I did not try using a digital multimeter to test the continuity between the data pins in the USB socket and the connections between the USB socket and the PCB, though. I noticed pin 4 (ID) of the 5-pin mini USB F connector (socket) does not appear to contact pin 4 on the male connector (the plug on the cable). Is this normal? I have fully reassembled my FreeRunner; it still works, except for USB data. However, now I really think this is a hardware problem because the behaviour is the same when my FreeRunner is running U-Boot from NOR, U-Boot from NAND, or QtMoko from NAND. When I connect my FreeRunner to my Windows 7 laptop, Windows 7 displays a balloon notification saying “USB Device Not Recognized: One of the USB devices attached to this computer has malfunctioned, and Windows does not recognize it.”. When I connect my FreeRunner to a tower PC running Ubuntu v8.10 Desktop Edition i386, Linux detects a new full-speed USB device, but does not specifically detect a FreeRunner. lsusb lists no connected devices. This is normal because this PC is headless, but it should still list the FreeRunner if Linux detects the FreeRunner specifically instead of detecting only a generic full-speed USB device. I called SDG Systems in Pennsylvania since I bought my FreeRunner from them in July or August 2009, but they told me my FreeRunner is not covered by warranty because the manufacturer’s warranty is only 2 weeks (!). They do not even sell FreeRunners anymore unless a customer wants to order 10 or more because the FreeRunner was not profitable for them. :( Does anyone have any more ideas? Should I ask on the Openmoko hardware list? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Em 03-03-2010 19:19, Brolin Empey escreveu: Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. I need to try disassembling my FreeRunner to check the connections for the USB connector so I can ask someone at work to fix (resolder) the connection, but I have not yet done so. It must be a hardware problem because QtMoko can still charge, but nothing happens when I connect USB devices to my FreeRunner: no kernel modules are automatically loaded, there are no kernel messages. Manually loading the kernel modules (e.g., dm9601 for my USB→Ethernet adapter) for the USB device does not help. It is not because of the electrical/logical USB host/device setting because I checked that; I know how to use sysfs to change it. I don't want to seem cocky, but did you try do ifdown usb0 ; ifup usb0 in vala-terminal? If still has no IP and connectivity, ifconfig usb0 IP netmask NETMASK ? Rui ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be writes: I have fully reassembled my FreeRunner; it still works, except for USB data. However, now I really think this is a hardware problem because Just a check: can you see internal bluetooth chip if you power it up and run lsusb on the phone? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. Have you tried a different USB cable? -- Michael Smith +61 416 062 898 http://glitch.tl ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
I'll second that - bought two cables while on holiday as I forgot to pack one. Neither will work for data, but will charge. The others I have at home work fine. BillK On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:11 +1100, Michael Smith wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. Have you tried a different USB cable? -- William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au Home in Perth! ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: My FreeRunner’s USB port still works for power, but not data?
Or try a diffrent hub/no hub at all. My FR works fine with the same cable plugged into my desktop POC, but when i plug the same cable in one of my hubs, it only charges and no data connection is possible Kind regrads, Ed On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 15:39 +0800, William Kenworthy wrote: I'll second that - bought two cables while on holiday as I forgot to pack one. Neither will work for data, but will charge. The others I have at home work fine. BillK On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 18:11 +1100, Michael Smith wrote: On Wed, 03 Mar 2010 11:19:35 -0800 Brolin Empey bro...@brolin.be wrote: Brolin Empey wrote: Now my FreeRunner’s USB port works for power, so I can still charge the battery, but not for communications, so I think a solder connection must have come undone. Have you tried a different USB cable? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
