Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread Richard Franks
On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:33 -0600, Paul Jimenez wrote:
 How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for 
 'mommy', 'daddy', etc ?  Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures?

Nice idea - I see where you're going with this, not making it too
complex.. for slightly older kids though, you could also have an add
friend button too, perhaps triggering auto-detection via bluetooth.

Or games which only work at scheduled breaks during the school day.

Most calculator applications I've seen on mobiles really suck.. but that
could be an area of improvement too.

Also, the back-end would not have to be locked down - parents could
still connect to their kids Neo and get whatever information they feel
they need. I'm not sure I'd want to write code to allow parents to
eavesdrop on their kids, but it'd be easy to do once we start networking
our Neo's to home/work machines and that infrastructure is solid.

Schools themselves may find it appealing to be able to restrict
cell-phone use during class, and with bluetooth, there's another option
to distribute homework other than email or paper.. and with the stylus
the kid could do their homework (whilst showing the working), on the bus
ride home.

Richard


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Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread michael

That is brilliant. As the parent of an 11-year old, I'd want a highly
configurable profile:

* Allow calls to/from (parents/grandparents/babysitter/etc.) anytime
* Allow calls to/from (list of friends) between 4pm and 9pm weekdays, 10-10pm
  weekends only
* Allow a maximum of (x) outgoing calls to friends per month
* as above for incoming
* as above for text messages

Of course good parenting encourages us to build better trust with our children
rather than depending on technology to solve our parenting problems but that's
another discussion..

Perhaps consider this technology-assisted good parenting.

Cool idea!

Michael


On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Paul Jimenez wrote:



How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable pictures for 
'mommy', 'daddy', etc ?  Maybe not even labelled, but just the pictures?

 --pj


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RE: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread Sam Kome
I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!

Some of the high schools here have really strict rules against kids
getting calls in class. I can understand it, but 1)Sometimes I need to
contact my daughter and 2)She can't always remember how she left the
ringer (on/off)

So how about a button for, Silence HERE: takes a GPS reading and makes
no sound w/in radius(n) of that location.  



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On Wed, 2007-01-24 at 11:33 -0600, Paul Jimenez wrote:
 How about a locked-down 'kid version' of the UI with touchable
pictures for 'mommy', 'daddy', etc ?  Maybe not even labelled, but just
the pictures?

Nice idea - I see where you're going with this, not making it too
complex.. for slightly older kids though, you could also have an add
friend button too, perhaps triggering auto-detection via bluetooth.

Or games which only work at scheduled breaks during the school day.

Most calculator applications I've seen on mobiles really suck.. but that
could be an area of improvement too.

Also, the back-end would not have to be locked down - parents could
still connect to their kids Neo and get whatever information they feel
they need. I'm not sure I'd want to write code to allow parents to
eavesdrop on their kids, but it'd be easy to do once we start networking
our Neo's to home/work machines and that infrastructure is solid.

Schools themselves may find it appealing to be able to restrict
cell-phone use during class, and with bluetooth, there's another option
to distribute homework other than email or paper.. and with the stylus
the kid could do their homework (whilst showing the working), on the bus
ride home.

Richard


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RE: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread michael




On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote:


I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!


Not yet, no.

My daughter gets my current phone as soon as I get the Neo 1973 (unless my
wife wants it - she has priority.) My daughter gets my Neo V1 when V2 comes
out!

My goal of a Linux-only household extends to our phones :-)

M

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Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread Fabian Off
Well, but what about any free-lessons?
I know your problem very well, being a student myself.
I tried to solve it like you did,  coding an application which
selects - depending on the cell-id my phone supplies - the
right profile. But I often get calls in times we have no school.
The phone just don't knows about it, well, how should it, so I miss
them because I don't hear/fell any action of my phone.

So, I think, a GPS AND time based selection would be great.
I don't really know if it'd be possible for the phone to filter the
incoming audio for the signal of the bell, but that'd be the
best solution in my opinon.

However, the idea itself is just great!

Greetings,
Fabian

Am Mittwoch, 24. Januar 2007 19:38 schrieb Sam Kome:
 I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
 
 Some of the high schools here have really strict rules against kids
 getting calls in class. I can understand it, but 1)Sometimes I need to
 contact my daughter and 2)She can't always remember how she left the
 ringer (on/off)
 
 So how about a button for, Silence HERE: takes a GPS reading and makes
 no sound w/in radius(n) of that location.  


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Squeak for the kids! Use Linux-vserver power before giving your Neo to a kid (or someone else) Re: Idea for OpenMoko: Kid Mode

2007-01-24 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Sam!

On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Sam Kome wrote:

 I like this thread, although I'm not giving my $350 phone to my kids!
In case that I would have kids, I wouldn't either,
it is because of the price, but also because it isn't rough enough.

Some more stuff for kids:
see my mail OpenMoko/Neo1973 is pure (r)evolution :))) - do you
recognized the power of multi-touch gesture recognition
http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2006-November/000258.html
Robert Michel schrieb am Samstag, den 25. November 2006 um 04:22h:
 And for inspiration, remember the video about the squeak educational
 software, written in Smalltalk-80
 (just for inspiration - I will not propose any language/enviroment
 to use with OpenMoko ;)
 http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-7680106513348266522q=Squeak
 (19 Min.)
 Imagine to combine something like that with a multi-touch screen :

And while we were looking for a Wifi chip with open driver, we got
a tip to see what chip the http://www.laptop.org project is using.
So for this thread, beside that the OLPC laptop has more Pixel:
Resolution: 1200 (H) × 900 (V) resolution (200 dpi)
I expect that some educatial stuff from OLPC will be usable for
OpenMoko devices.

And linux-vserver could help, that a parent give his Neo1973 to his
childes in the Kid mode without the danger, that they 
- doing expensive calls 
- bother your most important client or your boss
- delete all your important data
or what ever...

Cheers,
rob

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