Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote: Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an iphone docking station for my friend): http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some experience with blender. If you use it, I could help. I didnt modelled the iphone docking station. If I would model a docking station then it would be definietly an openmoko one, not an iphone one. I just printed the model out. Still you can help modelling a docking station. I have something in mind, that the mouth of the docking station would be at least two times bigger than the phone periphery, and would have a form of a cone. So I could basically just throw the phone into, and it would automagically plug itself in. I guess that this is very hard to achieve, because the dockingstation then has to be designed and printed very exactly. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD8DBQFLI55+lYiDScJJ+7QRAj4rAKD4eNu6naRfyMgV75psFKBHR8e2iQCeKv/t TKjakIZSKqXHVh5VOvk8FIg= =UaiE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote: Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an iphone docking station for my friend): http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some experience with blender. If you use it, I could help. I didnt modelled the iphone docking station. If I would model a docking station then it would be definietly an openmoko one, not an iphone one. I just printed the model out. Still you can help modelling a docking station. I have something in mind, that the mouth of the docking station would be at least two times bigger than the phone periphery, and would have a form of a cone. So I could basically just throw the phone into, and it would automagically plug itself in. Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) I have no CAD knowledge but I am interested in some form of dock, maybe some electrical talk, and willing to donate some cash for your expenses. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Le 10/12/2009 14:13, Atilla Filiz a écrit : Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) I have no CAD knowledge but I am interested in some form of dock, maybe some electrical talk, and willing to donate some cash for your expenses. -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme --- I'm on it to do a carbon one. My idea is to do a passive dock, just to stand the phone. If it works, I'll try to make an active one (with USB plug). My prototype will be done in polyester, then a glassfiber mold will be prepared, then I'll launch production in carbon ;-) Keepin touch. AstHrO. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:54 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. Actually I just switched LCD to QVGA mode, not XFCE itself. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email Sure, I'm interested in that. But it is needed to design a CAD model. I may try to make one if I have enough spare time. Then I'll email you. Or you may help with designing too? Im a beginner too (in CAD modelling). I imagine the workflow something like this: you model it, I print it. Then I post pictures of the print, how is it looks like on the freerunner, where are the design faults, and printing faults. Then we fix it, and print again. And again, and again. As far as modelling is concerned, this is the open source toolbox: - blender - openscad - qcad - inkscape Inkscape is great for the logo for example (import it into blender, extrude it, etc). qcad +openscad is great for accurate modelling. qcad for 2d, openscad for 3d (extruding 2d, boolean it, etc). I assume you meant a separate case for gamepad addon, but it also would be great (as arne anka said) to have a full replacement gaming case for Freerunner, or at least a LCD cover with integrated buttons. As arne have asked too, I own a reprap machine. So there are some limitations, namely: - the printing process is achieved layer-by-layer printing. About 0.5mm layers, so you can feel them with your nail. At least 2 layers required to really bond together. - some postprocessing is required, polishing the plastic, to get rid of the layers, and have a better look - no overhangs less then 45 degree. (ie. I cant print a standing letter T because, there is nothing under the top part of the T. Or the roof of the house. (ie. four walls plus the roof). So summing up, we need at least 2mm thickness. So printing out the original case is impossible, because it has less then 1mm of wall thickness. But for prototyping, or having a gamepad, what you posted does not impose such a strict limitation. So nobody really care if it is 3mm or 5mm thick. Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an iphone docking station for my friend): http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some experience with blender. If you use it, I could help. and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide) I'm not in EU. Ok we arrange it somehow. (or having electrical board in return;-) Of course ;) Great! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD4DBQFLISkvlYiDScJJ+7QRAsn6AKCVeH6Hr8ZFcYe22qk+e1cQedmXAgCVHG+d N/MFqOOmxdqSHlgVqV//9g== =Yp5z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
An active one, with a usb Y-cable which can charge the neo while using in host mode, that is something worth having. On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 6:00 PM, Bastian Muck bastian.m...@gmx.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Laszlo KREKACS schrieb: On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:54 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. Actually I just switched LCD to QVGA mode, not XFCE itself. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email Sure, I'm interested in that. But it is needed to design a CAD model. I may try to make one if I have enough spare time. Then I'll email you. Or you may help with designing too? Im a beginner too (in CAD modelling). I imagine the workflow something like this: you model it, I print it. Then I post pictures of the print, how is it looks like on the freerunner, where are the design faults, and printing faults. Then we fix it, and print again. And again, and again. As far as modelling is concerned, this is the open source toolbox: - blender - openscad - qcad - inkscape Inkscape is great for the logo for example (import it into blender, extrude it, etc). qcad +openscad is great for accurate modelling. qcad for 2d, openscad for 3d (extruding 2d, boolean it, etc). I assume you meant a separate case for gamepad addon, but it also would be great (as arne anka said) to have a full replacement gaming case for Freerunner, or at least a LCD cover with integrated buttons. As arne have asked too, I own a reprap machine. So there are some limitations, namely: - the printing process is achieved layer-by-layer printing. About 0.5mm layers, so you can feel them with your nail. At least 2 layers required to really bond together. - some postprocessing is required, polishing the plastic, to get rid of the layers, and have a better look - no overhangs less then 45 degree. (ie. I cant print a standing letter T because, there is nothing under the top part of the T. Or the roof of the house. (ie. four walls plus the roof). So summing up, we need at least 2mm thickness. So printing out the original case is impossible, because it has less then 1mm of wall thickness. But for prototyping, or having a gamepad, what you posted does not impose such a strict limitation. So nobody really care if it is 3mm or 5mm thick. Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an iphone docking station for my friend): http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) With which software do you design the dockingstation? I have some experience with blender. If you use it, I could help. and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide) I'm not in EU. Ok we arrange it somehow. (or having electrical board in return;-) Of course ;) Great! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iD4DBQFLISkvlYiDScJJ+7QRAsn6AKCVeH6Hr8ZFcYe22qk+e1cQedmXAgCVHG+d N/MFqOOmxdqSHlgVqV//9g== =Yp5z -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8VRABmJKSw This is AWESOME. The game ran smoothly, the buttons didnt had any lags. Just works. Its really stunning. I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. So the goal is really having the DOS games in full screen mode. But other than that, it is ... Ahh, I just cant find the words for this. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide). Of course at no cost. (or having electrical board in return;-) Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Great hack, great design. Now we need some games to play. Congratulations. On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:35 AM, Laszlo KREKACS laszlo.krekacs.l...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 8:04 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8VRABmJKSw This is AWESOME. The game ran smoothly, the buttons didnt had any lags. Just works. Its really stunning. I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. So the goal is really having the DOS games in full screen mode. But other than that, it is ... Ahh, I just cant find the words for this. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide). Of course at no cost. (or having electrical board in return;-) Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and what kind of 3d case? it would be awesome to get an fr case that already includes the controller (maybe simply the back?). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
I might be interested in even buying such a thing.(a plastic case for the joypad add-on) On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 12:14 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote: Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email, and what kind of 3d case? it would be awesome to get an fr case that already includes the controller (maybe simply the back?). ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- - Atilla Filiz Eindhoven University of Technology Embedded Systems, Master's Programme ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. Actually I just switched LCD to QVGA mode, not XFCE itself. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email Sure, I'm interested in that. But it is needed to design a CAD model. I may try to make one if I have enough spare time. Then I'll email you. Or you may help with designing too? I assume you meant a separate case for gamepad addon, but it also would be great (as arne anka said) to have a full replacement gaming case for Freerunner, or at least a LCD cover with integrated buttons. and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide) I'm not in EU. (or having electrical board in return;-) Of course ;) Best regards, Anton -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/Homemade-USB-gamepad-NeoPlay-tp4134521p4139816.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 3:54 PM, ANT ant0...@gmail.com wrote: Laszlo KREKACS wrote: I think the full screen issues is just some temporary xfce issue. Actually I just switched LCD to QVGA mode, not XFCE itself. Btw, if you are interested having a 3D case, just shoot me an email Sure, I'm interested in that. But it is needed to design a CAD model. I may try to make one if I have enough spare time. Then I'll email you. Or you may help with designing too? Im a beginner too (in CAD modelling). I imagine the workflow something like this: you model it, I print it. Then I post pictures of the print, how is it looks like on the freerunner, where are the design faults, and printing faults. Then we fix it, and print again. And again, and again. As far as modelling is concerned, this is the open source toolbox: - blender - openscad - qcad - inkscape Inkscape is great for the logo for example (import it into blender, extrude it, etc). qcad +openscad is great for accurate modelling. qcad for 2d, openscad for 3d (extruding 2d, boolean it, etc). I assume you meant a separate case for gamepad addon, but it also would be great (as arne anka said) to have a full replacement gaming case for Freerunner, or at least a LCD cover with integrated buttons. As arne have asked too, I own a reprap machine. So there are some limitations, namely: - the printing process is achieved layer-by-layer printing. About 0.5mm layers, so you can feel them with your nail. At least 2 layers required to really bond together. - some postprocessing is required, polishing the plastic, to get rid of the layers, and have a better look - no overhangs less then 45 degree. (ie. I cant print a standing letter T because, there is nothing under the top part of the T. Or the roof of the house. (ie. four walls plus the roof). So summing up, we need at least 2mm thickness. So printing out the original case is impossible, because it has less then 1mm of wall thickness. But for prototyping, or having a gamepad, what you posted does not impose such a strict limitation. So nobody really care if it is 3mm or 5mm thick. Here is a picture to get an idea about printing quality (I printed an iphone docking station for my friend): http://sites.google.com/site/laszlokrekacs/reprap/iphone2_k.jpg Btw I also plan to design a docking station. Anyone interested to collaborating?;-) and I can print you one if you are in EU. (im sure we can figure out how to ship to worldwide) I'm not in EU. Ok we arrange it somehow. (or having electrical board in return;-) Of course ;) Great! Best regards, Laszlo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Homemade USB gamepad (NeoPlay)
I developed a USB gamepad addon for Openmoko phones. It is tiny and thin. The electronical part is based on Raphaël Assénat's [1] USB game controller with 12 inputs [2] and uses the same firmware. Now Neo should beat Gizmondo and Tapwave Zodiac :D great, looks like some valuable buttons available (switch apps, dial...) Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
