On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 17:51:33 +0200, Christoph Mair m...@chonyota.net
wrote:
Am Samstag 18 Juni 2011, 14:51:05 schrieb Daniele Forsi:
can someone recommend an USB-i2c interface to use the navigation
board externally, for those who don't feel like touching their
Freerunner with a soldering iron
2011/6/17 Christoph Pulster wrote:
I think the Open Source community is missing to link and interaction
between projects. Add-on products like navigation-board can cross the
gap, for exaple it is useful for Openmoko, Qi Nanonote and Pandora.
indeed
can someone recommend an USB-i2c interface
Am Samstag 18 Juni 2011, 14:51:05 schrieb Daniele Forsi:
2011/6/17 Christoph Pulster wrote:
I think the Open Source community is missing to link and interaction
between projects. Add-on products like navigation-board can cross the
gap, for exaple it is useful for Openmoko, Qi Nanonote and
a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective
and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive
That might be the case, but in the context of distributing a piece of
software in the context of GNU/Linux, free software refers to
the FSF's notion.
Any other
I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free
software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way -
freeware and open source apps not always are free software)
huh?
since when and who made that decision?
for all i know, the line goes between open source and free.
open
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010, arne anka wrote:
[Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote:]
I think you're now confusing free software with freeware. Free
software app has to be open source (but not in opposite way -
freeware and open source apps not always are free software)
huh? since when and who made that
the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was
published by the free software foundation [1].
a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective
and a substantive, the adjective qualifying the substantive
b) qualifying a substantive with free has
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:21:50PM +0100, arne anka wrote:
the term free software was coined in or before 1989, when the GPLv1 was
published by the free software foundation [1].
a) the group free software is nothing but a combination of an adjective
and a substantive, the adjective
/end of arrogant rant about language usage.
this is getting too long for me :)
just download the relevant packages which this thread started about
and read license in there, it might help your understanding :))
cheers
Petr
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2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org:
The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical
principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software
that might not be libre (free as in freedom), which is not the same
idea as the Free Software movement has.
Since this is a mailinglist about openmoko's «free»runner, I think it's
normal to assume everyone on this mailinglist understands the idea
behind the free philosophy.
On Tue, 2010-01-05 at 16:09 +0100, Viktor Lindberg wrote:
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 01:21:50PM +0100, arne anka wrote:
the term
On Tue, Jan 05, 2010 at 03:39:42PM +, Neil Jerram wrote:
2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org:
The Open Source Movement have instead choosen to abandom the ethical
principle of freedom and only promote the use of Open Source software
that might not be libre (free as in freedom),
2010/1/5 Viktor Lindberg l...@leth.yi.org:
I don't wish to be rude but you're not actually contradicting anything
i'm saying afaict
Actually I think I am a bit. You said Not just open for anyone to
examine as is the case with Open Source, which sounds to me like you
are saying that people
c'mon,
you know he meant well
I can only applaud new pieces of software for our freerunners, so keep up
the good work
I personally think it's entirely up to you to release or not release the
source files (afterall, you could also make a programme people have to pay
for)
but it might be
hi,
If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=116
Currently not for usage, only as preview for Debian users.
downloaded the packages on my laptop:
van...@vanek:/tmp$ ./osm2mcmap
bash: ./osm2mcmap: cannot
2010/1/4 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
c'mon,
you know he meant well
Yes indeed. I apologize for raising this issue on Mike's thread; I
should have started a new thread and so not have singled out Mike in
particular.
Best wishes,
Neil
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Neil Jerram neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote:
2010/1/4 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
c'mon,
you know he meant well
Yes indeed. I apologize for raising this issue on Mike's thread; I
should have started a new thread and so not have singled out Mike in
On 1/4/10, Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 9:43 PM, Neil Jerram
neiljer...@googlemail.comwrote:
2010/1/4 Yorick Moko yorickm...@gmail.com:
c'mon,
you know he meant well
Yes indeed. I apologize for raising this issue on Mike's thread; I
should have started
Happy new year everyone!
If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=116
Currently not for usage, only as preview for Debian users.
Mike Crash wrote:
Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 6:40 PM, Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com wrote:
Happy new year everyone!
If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=116
Currently not for usage, only as preview for Debian users.
Mike
2010/1/3 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com:
Happy new year everyone!
If you want to look at progress, here is first version of MC Navi:
http://www.mikecrash.com/index.php?name=Newsfile=articleid=116
This is nice news, but what is it with the sorry, no source code yet thing?
Mike, I don't
This means that it is preview and not releasable yet. I know what it free
software - but it is up to author, when he makes releases. And if he makes
it at all. This is only to know, that it is not sleeping.
So please don't be fidgety - I have spent on this 7 months, every day 2-3
hours, many
2010/1/3 Mike Crash m...@mikecrash.com:
This means that it is preview and not releasable yet.
This makes no sense. How can the binary be releasable, but the source code not?
I know what it free
software - but it is up to author, when he makes releases. And if he makes
it at all.
I agree
This is not a good idea. Rendering such amount of data will take a (long)
while, also there si problem where to save it (little memory and slow card),
also you need any map angle at any time. And rendering speed is not a big
problem, it seems to work fine (or at least satisfactorily).
Yorick
Sure I'm using speed data from OSM and if not available, set it based on way
type and common speeds. I can find shortest and fastest path. No detection
if road is in the city yet.
I made some progress in last days and I'm going to use it for the first time
to drive home today :)
Bastian Muck
might be an idea worth considering:
have the possibility to calculate a route, and pre-render the bitmaps of
your route (at a few zoom-levels)
This way it doesn't have to be done on the fly when you know for example
where you are going to travel to
when you don't follow the planned route it will
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Mike Crash schrieb:
I use A* for routing, it is usable, but still not what I expect.
But I have some improvements in my mind :) I need to create
rerouting now and to test it in real life
I don't have any idea, how the code looks like, but I
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net:
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a
2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net:
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net:
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use
If you already have the vector data you doesn't need the bitmap data
anymore because you can render the displayed map directly from these
data. That is what navit already does and therefor a combination of
vector and bitmap data makes no sense. It would make the data redundant
and more
If you already have the vector data you doesn't need the bitmap data
anymore because you can render the displayed map directly from these
data. That is what navit already does and therefor a combination of
vector and bitmap data makes no sense. It would make the data redundant
and more
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 11:54 AM, Christophe M meumeu1...@gmail.com wrote:
[...]
Personnaly I don't find it redundant.
- If you use a 2D map, it's easier to draw a bitmap rather than a vector. It
consume less cpu so less battery. Due to my experience, I find navit really
slower than tangogps
On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 01:03:01 +0100
Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net wrote:
So if something should be changed, than it should be tangogps and
allother apps that uses png files to use a vector format like navit
does which is way better for this purpose.
Yes, and the earth is flat too ;-)
As it was
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Hello Mike,
which alorithm do you use? A* or just the slow Dijkstra as Navit does?
Greetings Bastian
Mike Crash schrieb:
Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi,
I use A* for routing, it is usable, but still not what I expect. But I have
some improvements in my mind :) I need to create rerouting now and to test
it in real life
Someone asked why not to improve navit - this was my first shot. But ... I
found it a little complicated, it needs some parts
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 11:02 -0800, Mike Crash pisze:
Hello everyone, I only want to inform you, that I am working on new
navigation for the Freerunner, current name is MC Navi, but may change.
Great! Looks nice :) Right on time to todays CU release. Lets put it to
Community section
yeah ! great !
what is the map source used to route ? an osm file ? or do you use a
binary-optimised one ?
Anyway, so glad you did it in EFL :)
On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Patryk Benderz patryk.bend...@esp.plwrote:
Dnia 2009-12-09, śro o godzinie 11:02 -0800, Mike Crash pisze:
Hello
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a new efl based interface?
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On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 10:05 PM, arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de wrote:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a new efl based interface?
Looks very nice!
I wish
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a new efl based interface?
Good question.
For me the frustrating thing about
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a new efl based interface?
Good question.
For me the
2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net:
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to use navit's engine, maybe improving
it and add a new efl based
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 12:19:59AM +, Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/10 Fox Mulder quakem...@gmx.net:
Neil Jerram wrote:
2009/12/9 arne anka openm...@ginguppin.de:
not to belittle the effort -- but in what respect will it be different
from navit?
would it be worth a consideration to
Hi,
I think it's a good idea to have such a link.
I suggest deleting community in front of Applications, otherwise there
is a repetition.
The page is a list, so it may be a good idea to have List of in the page
name. And it is not all applications, so try List of selected
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