Re: Om2009 release plan
On Tue, 2009-04-07 at 22:53 +0200, Ed Kapitein wrote: Hi, With the remainder of march being behind us, can you give an update on the release plan? Kind regards, Ed Hi Ed, We are going to put a testing image together for the end of this week. Because of OM reduced staffing levels some other dates mentioned in the Release Plan will probably slide a bit. Most of the features mentioned in the release plan have been implemented. A few still need some work and hopefully we can get those finished in short order. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Wed, 2009-04-08 at 13:48 -0400, Mark Shewmaker wrote: Great to hear that. I'm sending this question privately only because I don't want it to sound negative in any sense by sending it publicly, but..do you know if there is a release goal for this release for opkg update and upgrades to be able to complete without the infamous Signature check failed errors? As it's not really negative and other people might have the same question, I'm bouncing it back to the list. (The claim in http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ticket/1870 that this is fixed notwithstanding, that's not the case now.) If you try either the unstable or experimental images you will see that it is already fixed for Om2009. Since the fundamental problem has to do with how the repository is set up, and you are your coworkers are setting that up for this testing image this week, I figure this is probably the best time to ask. Asking questions anytime should provoke thought. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
Angus Ainslie wrote: Spring a time for new beginnings and we have a plan. An Om2009 release plan that is. For the remainder of March we are going to be integrating. We're going put FSO milestone 5.5, the stable kernel, paroli and the new xorg-glamo drivers together and make our most stable distro ever. Any incomplete features need to be finished and integrated before the end of March. The builds in March will be called Alpha builds, and will receive only partial testing. SNIP Hi, With the remainder of march being behind us, can you give an update on the release plan? Kind regards, Ed ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 3:14:56 am Angus Ainslie wrote: simple phone book (no images) Any chance that would use or import existing vcard files ? cheers, Chris -- Chris Samuel : http://www.csamuel.org/ : Melbourne, VIC This email may come with a PGP signature as a file. Do not panic. For more info see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenPGP signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Monday 02 March 2009, Angus Ainslie wrote: And about the enhancements and feature requests I'm serious they kill schedules so if you want us to make it don't ask for anything that's not in the UI spec ( to be released at http://www.paroli-project.org/, shortly I hope ). Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian -- DI Florian Hackenberger flor...@hackenberger.at www.hackenberger.at ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian Full screen is how paroli is intended to be used. It will not be a WM, launcher etc. It will still co-exist quite nicely with illume and that is how I've been running it for the last few days. Providing a stable phone platform is what paroli is about. Once the UI spec is published it should become a little clearer. Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 09:14 -0700, Angus Ainslie wrote: During the Beta phase in April and May, the phone will become fully functional. Full testing will be weekly at this point to try and nail the stability. Any remaining bugs will need closing. This is when we need to nail all the showstopper bugs and we're going to need your ( the communities help ). Your responsibility will be to find bugs and make sure they get into trac.openmoko.org. Well there's the first oops in the plan. The correct url for bug filing would be : http://docs.openmoko.org/trac/ Angus ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:14:56 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log charging suspend and resume alarm clock resume speed 2 seconds boot time 2 minutes screen lock battery indicator (gta01 and gta02 battery) gsm indicator Then there are still features looking for someone to help bring them in before the end of March: Settings application gprs edge user changeable ring tones bluetooth wifi led indication for missed calls or sms sliding in UI Two questions. What about package management GUI - is one planned to be included? Can you clarify sliding in UI? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
I think package management GUI can be included in Settings application. And for the wifi feature, I recommend the knjMokoWifi which using PHP-GTK. It works very well and with comprehensive interface. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Joel Newkirk freerun...@newkirk.us wrote: On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 09:14:56 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: The following features already have an owner and will be taken care of before the end of March: phone calls incoming and outgoing sms incoming and outgoing simple phone book (no images) call log charging suspend and resume alarm clock resume speed 2 seconds boot time 2 minutes screen lock battery indicator (gta01 and gta02 battery) gsm indicator Then there are still features looking for someone to help bring them in before the end of March: Settings application gprs edge user changeable ring tones bluetooth wifi led indication for missed calls or sms sliding in UI Two questions. What about package management GUI - is one planned to be included? Can you clarify sliding in UI? j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Best Regards HouYu Li, Karajan karajan_ii (at) hotmail.com karadog (at) gmail.com lihouyu (at) phpex.net PHP Programmer Red Hat Certified Engineer Shanghai, China ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 11:40:21 -0700 Angus Ainslie nyt...@openmoko.org wrote: On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 18:31 +0100, Florian Hackenberger wrote: Thanks for keeping us informed of the release schedule! One question related to paroli comes to mind. I tested paroli (from SVN) with FSO 5.1 and noticed that paroli is meant to be running full screen. Is that a temporary requirement? Because it would basically rule out the use of a window manager like illume and would result in having to implement WM, launcher (.desktop), systray, ... functionality in paroli, which would obviously be quite a duplication of effort. Could someone please explain the paroli plans with respect to the fullscreen requirement? Cheers, Florian Full screen is how paroli is intended to be used. It will not be a WM, launcher etc. It will still co-exist quite nicely with illume and that is how I've been running it for the last few days. Providing a stable phone platform is what paroli is about. Once the UI spec is published it should become a little clearer. Angus I've always envisioned a sideways swipe switching from 'desktop' to fullscreen 'phone'/'home' GUI... :) j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Om2009 release plan
On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 10:08:31 +0800 HouYu Li kara...@gmail.com wrote: I think package management GUI can be included in Settings application. And for the wifi feature, I recommend the knjMokoWifi which using PHP-GTK. It works very well and with comprehensive interface. Package management is something I think of as a fairly independent thing, rather than part of Settings. Granted its UI could be called up from within a settings panel or something, but its purpose, usage, and design seem distinctly apart from what I think most people consider settings. Regardless, given the variety and nature of the things itemized I wondered if it had accidentally been omitted, and if so which list it was on. j ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
