Where is Qtopia image on qtopia.net for GTA01

2008-07-09 Thread Pranav Desai
Hello All,

I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here

http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php

Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct location.

Also, is this qtopia image similar to the one here
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

Thanks for your time.

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Re: Where is Qtopia image on qtopia.net for GTA01

2008-07-09 Thread Tilman Baumann
Pranav Desai wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
 Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
 
 http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
 
 Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct location.
 
 Also, is this qtopia image similar to the one here
 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

These are the qtopia X11 builds. Also known as ASU.

The 'old' pure qtipia images are still available.
http://buildhost.automated.it/OM2007.2/openmoko-qtopia-image-om-gta01.tar.gz
They evolved from the official trolltech builds. But are a bit more sane 
packetized AFAIK.


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Re: Where is Qtopia image on qtopia.net for GTA01

2008-07-09 Thread Lorn Potter
Pranav Desai wrote:
 Hello All,
 
 I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
 Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
 
 http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
 
 Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct location.

I will put a new image up for the 1973 today.


 
 Also, is this qtopia image similar to the one here
 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

Thats not Qtopia, thats ASU from Openmoko.



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Re: Where is Qtopia image on qtopia.net for GTA01

2008-07-09 Thread Yorick Moko
Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

such a long filename and ASU isn't even mentioned in the name :)


On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 8:43 PM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Pranav Desai wrote:
  Hello All,
 
  I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
  Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here
 
  http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php
 
  Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct
 location.

 I will put a new image up for the 1973 today.


 
  Also, is this qtopia image similar to the one here
 
 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

 Thats not Qtopia, thats ASU from Openmoko.



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Re: Where is Qtopia image on qtopia.net for GTA01

2008-07-09 Thread Pranav Desai
On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Lorn Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Pranav Desai wrote:
 Hello All,

 I wanted to try out the Qtopia image provided by trolltech on my
 Neo1973, but the only image I could find was for the freerunner here

 http://www.qtopia.net/modules/mydownloads/index.php

 Can I use the same one? If not then can anyone point me to correct location.

 I will put a new image up for the 1973 today.


Great !

Thanks

-- Pranav



 Also, is this qtopia image similar to the one here
 http://buildhost.openmoko.org/daily/neo1973/200807/20080708/Openmoko-openmoko-qtopia-x11-image-glibc-ipk-P1-Snapshot-20080708-om-gta01.rootfs.jffs2

 Thats not Qtopia, thats ASU from Openmoko.



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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-02 Thread Rob Wood
We at TrueBox (in the UK) are expecting a batch of Freerunners in on the 
18th July and are taking orders now.


If anyone is interested the shop is at:

https://www.truebox.co.uk/trueboxportal/index.php?wk=Shopthiscat=8

Best regards,

Rob


Marcel wrote:
Seems like this is true. There must have been placed plenty of orders, I was 
(imho) really quick but still got no confirmation for any date... :(


-Marcel

Am Dienstag 01 Juli 2008 14:10:42 schrieb Christ van Willegen:
  

Does that mean that if I didn't get an e-mail form Pulster stating
that it will be shipped on the 5th, I get it the 25th (if not later)?

Christ van Willegen

On 6/30/08, Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment
are selled out.

Jay Vaughan schrieb:
  

Hi all,

I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,
and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in
Europe?

Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace
(THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with
9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Jay Vaughan
Hi all,

I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,  
and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in  
Europe?

Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace  
(THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with  
9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Johannes Florineth
Hi,

take a look here:

http://openmoko.com/distributors-europe.html
http://www.trisoft.de

Johannes



2008/7/1 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi all,

 I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,
 and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in
 Europe?

 Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace
 (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with
 9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
There are other distributors.

Please refer to:

http://www.openmoko.com/distributors-europe.html

Nikolaus Schaller
(in charge of http://www.handheld-linux.com )


Am 01.07.2008 um 12:08 schrieb Jay Vaughan:

 Hi all,

 I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,
 and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in
 Europe?

 Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace
 (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with
 9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Bumbl
Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment 
are selled out.

Jay Vaughan schrieb:
 Hi all,

 I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,  
 and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in  
 Europe?

 Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace  
 (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with  
 9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Christ van Willegen
Does that mean that if I didn't get an e-mail form Pulster stating
that it will be shipped on the 5th, I get it the 25th (if not later)?

Christ van Willegen

On 6/30/08, Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment
 are selled out.

 Jay Vaughan schrieb:
 Hi all,

 I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,
 and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in
 Europe?

 Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace
 (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with
 9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Who told you?

We still have some devices for you (because not all pre-orders have  
been paid so far):

http://www.handheld-linux.com/wiki.php?page=Neo%20Freerunner

But I can't tell how long that lasts. Please note that we have a  
priority queue. If you place an order you are queued up (by order date  
- not by speed of payment) so that you will automatically have a  
reservation for the next shipment if you fall beyond this first  
shipment. Of course, we will tell you about the status so that you  
always know what is going on.

The next shipment is under negotiation, but will be avaliable soon.

Nikolaus Schaller

http://www.goldelico.com
Official Openmoko Distributor

Am 30.06.2008 um 14:11 schrieb Bumbl:

 Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment
 are selled out.

 Jay Vaughan schrieb:
 Hi all,

 I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,
 and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in
 Europe?

 Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my  
 workplace
 (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with
 9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.

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Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
And does this mean, even if i had a confirmation in mid of april that i will bi 
informed as one of the first, 
there is no Freerunner from Pulster for me before 25th of july :-(((.
Marketing driven promises?








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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Bumbl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
 And does this mean, even if i had a confirmation in mid of april that i will 
 bi informed as one of the first, 
 there is no Freerunner from Pulster for me before 25th of july :-(((.
 Marketing driven promises?








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if he told you that you are one of the first then you'll get it as early 
as possible i think
because
he told me the same
and as for now, my freerunner is already on the way to me

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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread Marcel
Seems like this is true. There must have been placed plenty of orders, I was 
(imho) really quick but still got no confirmation for any date... :(

-Marcel

Am Dienstag 01 Juli 2008 14:10:42 schrieb Christ van Willegen:
 Does that mean that if I didn't get an e-mail form Pulster stating
 that it will be shipped on the 5th, I get it the 25th (if not later)?

 Christ van Willegen

 On 6/30/08, Bumbl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Afaik all the freerunners which came to Europe with the first shipment
  are selled out.
 
  Jay Vaughan schrieb:
  Hi all,
 
  I've just tried to place an order for one Freerunner with Pulster.eu,
  and discovered there aren't any left?  So where do I buy one from in
  Europe?
 
  Alternatively, I think I can do a 10-pack deal .. between my workplace
  (THALES) and the playground (MetaLab.at), I for sure can come up with
  9 other interested parties.  How do I do this?  Please advise.
 
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Re: Where to buy Freerunner in Europe?

2008-07-01 Thread arne anka
not to be harsh, but could you please check your clock settings?
you're about 24h behind, it's a bit confusing ...

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Re: Sean where are you?

2008-04-23 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz

David Samblas Martinez wrote:

Since Tue Apr 8 17:31:57 CEST 2008 Sean Moss-Pultz
(our beloved leader ;)) doesn't appears on the
community forum. Waiting for the take and hack,
because it is code of my code and hardware of my
hardware day announce?


I'm still here...fighting all kinds of battles to get our Neos built. 
Hang in there with me. We'll get there ;-)


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Re: Micheal Shiloh: where were you?

2008-04-17 Thread Ajit Natarajan
Michael Shiloh wrote:
 I'm sorry to have disappointed you all. I'm afraid that due to unforseen
  circumstances I was unable to attend. To my regret I wasn't able to
 inform the conference organizers in time.

 Just out of curiosity, how many were in the Openmoko session? 

Michael,

Your session was slotted for 5:30-6:30 pm today (Wednesday).
The room could hold 30+ people (I think).  And it was full.
During the dinner following the sessions, I was talking to
a consultant who said that he had bumped into you in SF
a couple of times.  He is also looking forward to laying
his hands on a Freerunner.

Will you be coming tomorrow?

I had several questions that I wanted to ask you after your session:

. Steve has ignored :( my question on the warranty.  I wanted to
  get some data from you on it.

. I wanted to find out if you knew of any group of people
  in the Bay Area who may be interested in a 10-pack.

. I wanted to hold the Freerunner to check out its feel.  I wanted
  to use the stylus to see whether I was comfortable with it.

. I wanted to ask you about ultra clear versus ultra clear plus
  LCD protectors and if you had any experience with either.

. I wanted your opinion on the software stack that would be
  available with the first product release of the Freerunner.
  I guess all this has to be done by email now :( .

Above all, I wanted to personally meet you.

I had a conversation with a Nokia research employee on the sidelines
who was talking about porting a standard Linux distribution to the
Nokia 800/810.  I asked him if Nokia had any plans on
adding a phone to their Internet tablet.  He said that he couldn't
reveal any future product plans.  I opined that this was an
advantage of Openmoko in that they were fairly forthcoming on
their plans and solicited ideas from the community.  His response was
that while Openmoko devices were good to play with and had certain
advantages (he had one himself), Nokia was a consumer oriented
company that produced and sold a huge number of consumer oriented
devices.  Not sure what he was trying to say.  I could have
gotten the two of you together and we could have had a good
conversation.  This may have been particularly useful in light
of recent threads on end customers opinions and the lack of
focus group testing.

One of the Asian companies (can't remember which, sorry), was
demonstrating Android (Google's mobile platform).  Trolltech
was demonstrating Qt on a Broadcom phone platform.  There were some
other demonstrations as well.  So, quite a few phone related
demonstrations and presentations.

Ajit

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RE: Micheal Shiloh: where were you?

2008-04-17 Thread steve
Ajit,

 I will answer the question on warrenty in due course.  For now, assume a
policy like we had on GTA01.  14 days for DOA. I'm working at coming up
with a more comprehensive policy. But Until then we will default to the last
known value.

Steve

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Michael Shiloh wrote:
 I'm sorry to have disappointed you all. I'm afraid that due to unforseen
  circumstances I was unable to attend. To my regret I wasn't able to
 inform the conference organizers in time.

 Just out of curiosity, how many were in the Openmoko session? 

Michael,

Your session was slotted for 5:30-6:30 pm today (Wednesday).
The room could hold 30+ people (I think).  And it was full.
During the dinner following the sessions, I was talking to
a consultant who said that he had bumped into you in SF
a couple of times.  He is also looking forward to laying
his hands on a Freerunner.

Will you be coming tomorrow?

I had several questions that I wanted to ask you after your session:

. Steve has ignored :( my question on the warranty.  I wanted to
  get some data from you on it.

. I wanted to find out if you knew of any group of people
  in the Bay Area who may be interested in a 10-pack.

. I wanted to hold the Freerunner to check out its feel.  I wanted
  to use the stylus to see whether I was comfortable with it.

. I wanted to ask you about ultra clear versus ultra clear plus
  LCD protectors and if you had any experience with either.

. I wanted your opinion on the software stack that would be
  available with the first product release of the Freerunner.
  I guess all this has to be done by email now :( .

Above all, I wanted to personally meet you.

I had a conversation with a Nokia research employee on the sidelines
who was talking about porting a standard Linux distribution to the
Nokia 800/810.  I asked him if Nokia had any plans on
adding a phone to their Internet tablet.  He said that he couldn't
reveal any future product plans.  I opined that this was an
advantage of Openmoko in that they were fairly forthcoming on
their plans and solicited ideas from the community.  His response was
that while Openmoko devices were good to play with and had certain
advantages (he had one himself), Nokia was a consumer oriented
company that produced and sold a huge number of consumer oriented
devices.  Not sure what he was trying to say.  I could have
gotten the two of you together and we could have had a good
conversation.  This may have been particularly useful in light
of recent threads on end customers opinions and the lack of
focus group testing.

One of the Asian companies (can't remember which, sorry), was
demonstrating Android (Google's mobile platform).  Trolltech
was demonstrating Qt on a Broadcom phone platform.  There were some
other demonstrations as well.  So, quite a few phone related
demonstrations and presentations.

Ajit

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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-17 Thread Andy Green
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data?
 It seems something like:
 UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, how is calculed what I called ${id}?

 I have absolutely no idea, but i think it's easy to find in evolution 
 sources ;-)

Right -- I guess it does come from Evolution.  fic-gta02 does seem to be
the hostname.  It could be random, but 1424-0-1422-11 doesn't look very
random.

I saw you can get the upstream source here

http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/gnome/sources/evolution/2.22/evolution-2.22.0.tar.bz2

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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Magnus Alvestad
They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't
remember the exact path, but it's something like:

~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo

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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Magnus Alvestad ha scritto:
They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't 
remember the exact path, but it's something like:


~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo


Since When I'll have a freerunner I'd like to import my SMSs saved in my 
actual mobile, I'd like to know the exact syntax too...


Do you have some examples to post?
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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Andy Green
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Hash: SHA1

Somebody in the thread at some point said:

 Do you have some examples to post?
 Thanks!

I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like
this, additional texts appear between additional BEGIN:VJOURNAL /
END:VJOURNAL

# cat /home/root/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics
BEGIN:VCALENDAR
CALSCALE:GREGORIAN
PRODID:-//Ximian//NONSGML Evolution Calendar//EN
VERSION:2.0
BEGIN:VJOURNAL
UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DTSTAMP:20080309T150537Z
CREATED:20080309T150538
DTSTART:20080309T150537Z
SUMMARY:T-Mobile
LAST-MODIFIED:20080309T150654
DTEND:20080309T150538Z
LOCATION:+44753XXX
DESCRIPTION:Your tariff is Everyone. To switch between Mates Rates\,
 Everyone  Text Appeal pay as you go tariffs dial 146 free from the UK 
 follow the instructions
CATEGORIES:Read
END:VJOURNAL
... (more texts) ...
END:VCALENDAR

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Subject: Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Bobby Martin

 Magnus Alvestad ha scritto:
  They are saved in evolution files in the root home directory. I don't
  remember the exact path, but it's something like:
 
  ~root/.evolution/memos/memos.evo

 Since When I'll have a freerunner I'd like to import my SMSs saved in my
 actual mobile, I'd like to know the exact syntax too...

 Do you have some examples to post?
 Thanks!

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Wouldn't it be easier, and probably more robust, to use the dbus api to
insert the SMSes?  See http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Dbus_device_API
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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

Andy Green wrote:

Somebody in the thread at some point said:


Do you have some examples to post?
Thanks!


I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like
this, additional texts appear between additional BEGIN:VJOURNAL /
END:VJOURNAL

# cat /home/root/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics
BEGIN:VCALENDAR
CALSCALE:GREGORIAN
PRODID:-//Ximian//NONSGML Evolution Calendar//EN
VERSION:2.0
BEGIN:VJOURNAL
UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
DTSTAMP:20080309T150537Z
CREATED:20080309T150538
DTSTART:20080309T150537Z
SUMMARY:T-Mobile
LAST-MODIFIED:20080309T150654
DTEND:20080309T150538Z
LOCATION:+44753XXX
DESCRIPTION:Your tariff is Everyone. To switch between Mates Rates\,
 Everyone  Text Appeal pay as you go tariffs dial 146 free from the UK 
 follow the instructions
CATEGORIES:Read
END:VJOURNAL
... (more texts) ...
END:VCALENDAR

-Andy


Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data?
It seems something like:
   UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, how is calculed what I called ${id}?

Thanks again...

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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread Ian Darwin



Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data?
It seems something like:
   UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Well, how is calculated what I called ${id}?


There is an official spec for the UUID format, or several variants of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uuid

Ian D

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Re: where The SMS message save?

2008-03-16 Thread joerg
Am Mo  17. März 2008 schrieb Marco Trevisan (Treviño):
 Andy Green wrote:
  Somebody in the thread at some point said:
  
  Do you have some examples to post?
  Thanks!
  
  I didn't know any of this until Magnus said, but it seems it is like
  this, additional texts appear between additional BEGIN:VJOURNAL /
  END:VJOURNAL
  
  # cat /home/root/.evolution/memos/local/system/journal.ics
  BEGIN:VCALENDAR
  CALSCALE:GREGORIAN
  PRODID:-//Ximian//NONSGML Evolution Calendar//EN
  VERSION:2.0
  BEGIN:VJOURNAL
  UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  DTSTAMP:20080309T150537Z
  CREATED:20080309T150538
  DTSTART:20080309T150537Z
  SUMMARY:T-Mobile
  LAST-MODIFIED:20080309T150654
  DTEND:20080309T150538Z
  LOCATION:+44753XXX
  DESCRIPTION:Your tariff is Everyone. To switch between Mates Rates\,
   Everyone  Text Appeal pay as you go tariffs dial 146 free from the UK 
   follow the instructions
  CATEGORIES:Read
  END:VJOURNAL
  ... (more texts) ...
  END:VCALENDAR
  
  -Andy
 
 Thanks... Just one thing: how is generated the UID data?
 It seems something like:
 UID:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Well, how is calculed what I called ${id}?
I have absolutely no idea, but i think it's easy to find in evolution 
sources ;-)

j


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where The SMS message save?

2008-03-14 Thread Xiangfu Liu
I use Neo1973 in China
I can transcode from base64 to Chinese
in this way i can read the chinese SMS
i know the sms save at /home/root/Document/application/Qmail/mail In  Qtopia
but i don't know where the SMS mesage save In the OpenMoko

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Re: Where to find latest ...

2008-02-05 Thread Christopher Earl
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Repositories

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/08 9:13 AM 
Qtopia download images and the latest OpenMoko images ?

Thx

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Re: I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-02-04 Thread Audrius Meskauskas

andy wrote:

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Guys,

I don't want to start a whole I've just bought a neo - what do I do
thread.. so I'm going to keep this short.

  
Please RTFM at 
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Getting_Started_with_your_Neo1973


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Re: I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-01-30 Thread Christopher Earl
I like the unstable OM images from 1/27/08  if your not in a GSM 800 area this 
should work for you

 andy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/08 4:19 PM 
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Hash: SHA1

Hi Guys,

I don't want to start a whole I've just bought a neo - what do I do
thread.. so I'm going to keep this short.

Can someone give me a brief overview about the best way to get my neo up
and running.  I've had a look at the qTopia release and a fairly recent
openmoko image.  Can someone provide me with a pairing of either
openmoko/qtopia kernel and rootfs images which go well together and will
give me a good base for further development.

Interesting note on the qtopia image I tried.. they'd receive texts, but
not *appear* to register on the network/allow calls.  All academic as
this is the openmoko list though.

Regards,

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Re: I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-01-30 Thread andy selby
 Interesting note on the qtopia image I tried.. they'd receive texts, but
 not *appear* to register on the network/allow calls.  All academic as
 this is the openmoko list though.

Do you mean the the signal strength meter did not show but a message
saying no network did?
I've come across a way that overcomes that but its very unscientific.
1. Open the back
2. Remove battery
3. Push the sim card holder in the direction it locks into (i.e.
towards the bottom of the neo)
4. When you replace the battery press it down above the sim card
Now, I know your probably thinking do you also stand on one leg but
this method has never failed me, I heard another guy on the mailing
list put a peice of paper  between the battery and the simcard holder
to solve this problem

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I'm back with my neo.. where to begin?

2008-01-28 Thread andy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Hi Guys,

I don't want to start a whole I've just bought a neo - what do I do
thread.. so I'm going to keep this short.

Can someone give me a brief overview about the best way to get my neo up
and running.  I've had a look at the qTopia release and a fairly recent
openmoko image.  Can someone provide me with a pairing of either
openmoko/qtopia kernel and rootfs images which go well together and will
give me a good base for further development.

Interesting note on the qtopia image I tried.. they'd receive texts, but
not *appear* to register on the network/allow calls.  All academic as
this is the openmoko list though.

Regards,

andylockran
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Re: Where are the updates?

2007-11-25 Thread Michael Shiloh

Good idea. This was mentioned before and I haven't done it yet.

I'll copy the next update to the announce list.

Michael

justin daly wrote:
i think it is, but i don't think everyone's hooked up to an rss iv. at 
least during the holidays :)


any chance for an update on the announce list?

happy thxgiving
j

On Nov 24, 2007 5:41 PM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


http://planet.openmoko.org had a pretty major update today as far as  i
know? Or isn't that offical pdates?


Cailan Halliday skrev:
  I haven't seen an official update for the OpenMoko project on this
  list for ages, is anything happening, or is OpenMoko going to die?
 
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Re: Where are the updates?

2007-11-25 Thread Michael Shiloh

Hi List,

Last update was supposed to be just over 2 weeks ago, so I am a little 
late. I'm working on it now.


Cailan: I plan to send an update at least every two weeks, more often if 
there is anything to report in between.


Visit

http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates

for previous updates.

Michael

Cailan Halliday wrote:

I haven't seen an official update for the OpenMoko project on this
list for ages, is anything happening, or is OpenMoko going to die?

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Where are the updates?

2007-11-24 Thread Cailan Halliday
I haven't seen an official update for the OpenMoko project on this
list for ages, is anything happening, or is OpenMoko going to die?

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Re: Where are the updates?

2007-11-24 Thread flexd
http://planet.openmoko.org had a pretty major update today as far as  i 
know? Or isn't that offical pdates?



Cailan Halliday skrev:

I haven't seen an official update for the OpenMoko project on this
list for ages, is anything happening, or is OpenMoko going to die?

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Re: Where are the updates?

2007-11-24 Thread justin daly
i think it is, but i don't think everyone's hooked up to an rss iv. at least
during the holidays :)

any chance for an update on the announce list?

happy thxgiving
j

On Nov 24, 2007 5:41 PM, flexd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 http://planet.openmoko.org had a pretty major update today as far as  i
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developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

2007-11-12 Thread Ron K. Jeffries
*** I HOPE I AM W-R-O-N-G!!! ***
But this issue needs some discussion.


Emre Turkay says below, (in essence)

--developing scripts for OpenMono is relatively easy
  GOOD!

-- writing C/++ OpenMoko apps is very difficult to almost impossible.
  BIG PROBLEM...

As an interested onlooker I want OpenMoko to not
only survive but thrive, I am concerned that this project may
not be able to reach critical mass.

If what Turkay says about the OpenMoko development platform
is approximately correct, this project may be doomed.
How can we be this far down the road without enough
documentation that a larger group of developers can successfully
write C/C++ apps for OpenMoko?

On the other hand, one might also say how can a mobile phone
project be this far along yet have issues with
fundamental requirements such as making and receiving calls?

One possible conclusion: developing a full-featured open source
mobile phone  exceeds the scope of what a loosely
organized open source community can accomplish.

*** I HOPE I AM W-R-O-N-G!!! ***

-ron k jeffries

[this is an excerpt]
-- Forwarded message --
From: Emre Turkay [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: List for OpenMoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 12:08:04 +0200
Subject: Re: start writing applications - how?

There are python packages available on both the repository and
in the compilation output directory, you can install them with ipkg.
Practically you don't need any moko specific example or documentation
(except gsm/gps related issues, in which case you need to look at the code
and interact with those services through dbus). Just consult the python/gtk
examples and your code will run on any platform including moko.

You don't need to do anything for the screen size, gtk is handling them very
good. You may, however, want to optimize your design for a 480x640 display,
which is done in application specific way ( i.e., placing buttons in an
optimized way.) So, there is nothing stopping you ;)

Scripting is easy, however support for developing C/C++ applications
is a disaster.
You have to have the ability to touch your left ear with your right
hand's thumb,
while standing up-down on the other arm and break the 100m Olympic record
on running (or better have a seat at FIC) to be able to write those
applications.

About the development platform, no central documentation
(even no documentation at all), no community support so far. There was an
announcement on the list about a development framework as far as I remember,
but I heard nothing about it again.

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Re: developing C/C++ applications for OpenMoko -- where do we stand?

2007-11-12 Thread Thomas Wood
On Mon, 2007-11-12 at 09:59 -0800, Joshua Layne wrote:
[...]
  If what Turkay says about the OpenMoko development platform
  is approximately correct, this project may be doomed.
  How can we be this far down the road without enough
  documentation that a larger group of developers can successfully
  write C/C++ apps for OpenMoko?
  
 I believe the core of this perceived issue is the cross-dev environment, as
 most developers are not developing on native armv5te platforms.
 
 There are libraries for the openmoko 'widgets' that have been produced
 (openedhand).  Otherwise, I woul dimagine it is very similar to developing
 in any other gtk+ environment.

Confirmed, and you don't even need to use the libmokoui widgets if you
don't want to.

There are lots of people already writing C/C++ applications for
OpenMoko. Chances are, if you can write GUI applications for Linux, then
you can easily write them for this phone as well. The only tricky bit is
cross compiling. The rest should work exactly as if you were developing
for your desktop.

Regards,

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Re: where did the build site go?

2007-09-07 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski

Sorry, it should go on device-owners list.

Bartlomiej Zdanowski pisze:

Hi
Michael Lauer pisze:

This is correct. There were some BitBake / OE changes that required
doing a full rebuild. I expect the feed to be up again within the next
12 hours or so.
  

You're right! It's up.
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/fic-gta01/




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Re: where did the build site go?

2007-09-06 Thread Bartlomiej Zdanowski

Hi
Michael Lauer pisze:

This is correct. There were some BitBake / OE changes that required
doing a full rebuild. I expect the feed to be up again within the next
12 hours or so.
  

You're right! It's up.
http://buildhost.openmoko.org/OM2007.2/tmp/deploy/glibc/images/fic-gta01/


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Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread Ian Darwin

Tim Milliken wrote:

I am looking into joining in on this project. Welcome aboard!


Welcome aboard!

 I am a windows programmer
and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone 
give me some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be 
running Linux as a host development OS? 


While it is in theory possible to develop on other *NIX-like OSes than 
Linux (such as BSD), I believe it would be a major amount of work. Doing 
so on Windows is probably beyond the capabilities of most individuals.


I am really lost but very 
interested in this. I have thought about running Win CE 6.0 sine it is 
kinda like and opensource, MS now includes the all the source for 6.0.


Really? Allow me to ask a rhetorical question: Where can I download the 
complete source of Wince without paying anything, without signing 
anything and without confirming any license agreement?  If I can't, it 
is not anything like open source. :-)


Seriously, there is no reason you could not run another OS (like Wince), 
but you should not expect people on this list to divert from what 
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New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread Tim Milliken
I am looking into joining in on this project. I am a windows programmer and
know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone give me
some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be running Linux
as a host development OS? I am really lost but very interested in this. I
have thought about running Win CE 6.0 sine it is kinda like and opensource,
MS now includes the all the source for 6.0.

Thanks in advance,

Tim Milliken

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Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread Thomas Gstädtner
Well, then we have luck that you do not define what open source is :)
There's a official definition of open source:
http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd
Thanks to all guys in the whole open source scene.

2007/8/3, wim delvaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Friday 03 August 2007 17:14:36 Ian Darwin wrote:
  Tim Milliken wrote:
   I am looking into joining in on this project. Welcome aboard!
 
  Welcome aboard!
 
I am a windows programmer
  
   and know almost nothing about Linux. Where should I start? Can anyone
   give me some starting points on getting started. Like do I have to be
   running Linux as a host development OS?
 
  While it is in theory possible to develop on other *NIX-like OSes than
  Linux (such as BSD), I believe it would be a major amount of work. Doing
  so on Windows is probably beyond the capabilities of most individuals.
 
   I am really lost but very
   interested in this. I have thought about running Win CE 6.0 sine it is
   kinda like and opensource, MS now includes the all the source for 6.0.
 
  Really? Allow me to ask a rhetorical question: Where can I download the
  complete source of Wince without paying anything, without signing
  anything and without confirming any license agreement?  If I can't, it
  is not anything like open source. :-)

 well for me 'open source' does not mean GPL.  'Open source' for me means
 the
 source is available to you and you can modify it but it does not give you
 the
 right to do what you want with it.

 GPL that is another story.  It allows you to explicitely do what you want
 with
 it (to some extent)

 Mind you IANAL

 
  Seriously, there is no reason you could not run another OS (like Wince),
  but you should not expect people on this list to divert from what
  they're doing to help you.
 
 
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Re: New looker where to start?

2007-08-03 Thread John Locke
Not to belabor the point, but I disagree:

wim delvaux wrote:
 well for me 'open source' does not mean GPL.  'Open source' for me means the 
 source is available to you and you can modify it but it does not give you the 
 right to do what you want with it.

 GPL that is another story.  It allows you to explicitely do what you want 
 with 
 it (to some extent)

   
Open Source is a term that's been hijacked by many commercial entities
that do not adhere to the definition. For the Open Source Definition,
see here:

http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd

... this is from the Open Source Initiative, which was started by Eric
Raymond (who coined the phrase open source) and a bunch of others who
thought that the main point of having free software was that it resulted
in better software, as opposed to the FSF's main aim to spread freedom.

The first criteria in the open source definition is Free
Redistribution. If software isn't freely redistributable, it's not open
source. Lots of companies are hijacking the term to mean what Wim is
saying, but doing so makes it harder to tell what is really open source.

While there are many open source licenses that are not the GPL, all of
them allow free redistribution. For a list of OSI-approved open source
licenses, see here: http://www.opensource.org/licenses/alphabetical .
The main thing that sets the GPL apart from other open source licenses
is that it prevents people from closing the code, makes it so if you
create derivative software of GPL'd code, you can't restrict the people
you give/sell/provide the code to from redistributing it under the GPL,
and you must provide them with source code. Other open source licenses
like the Apache or BSD licenses can be used in commercial, closed
software without any need to provide source code or rights to further
distribute.

Cheers,

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Open Source Solutions for Small Business Problems
published by Charles River Media, June 2004
http://www.freelock.com


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Minor query on Wiki? Where was I supposed to send it?

2007-03-11 Thread Clare Johnstone

Hi,
I was trying to find an email address for the wiki administrator
to send this query (attached), but failed.
(If I had wanted to edit the wiki there was help for that (lots).)

Sorry to waste space on this list,
clare


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Re: Minor query on Wiki? Where was I supposed to send it?

2007-03-11 Thread Steven **

I would post something like that on that page's Discussion/Talk page.

-Steven

On 3/11/07, Clare Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,
I was trying to find an email address for the wiki administrator
to send this query (attached), but failed.
(If I had wanted to edit the wiki there was help for that (lots).)

Sorry to waste space on this list,
clare

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Re: app idea: where is my stuff (wims)

2007-01-23 Thread Andrew Turner

This is really neat idea - I've seen web projects that allow you to
'geotag' real-world objects (geotagthings.com and others), but this is
actually for your own purposes of tracking that item back down.
Perhaps you take a CD/DVD/Video game to a friend's house, or when
you're shopping you want to remember to come back and pick up that
outfit/TV/Equipment when you're by the mall again. Or, sporting event
season ticket seats (really getting to how good accuracy will the AGPS
have?)

While LBS mobile apps aren't new, the Neo will be one of the first to
expose the AGPS to client-side developers (besides Nextel, which
inspired Mologogo).

This is what makes it exciting :)
Andrew

On 1/23/07, Robin Farine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello everyone,

On my desktop machine, I like Tellico (a KDE application to manage
collections) to keep track of some of my stuff. On the Neo, I would
like something similar, a simple application that manages objects
consisting of, say, a set of custom properties and possibly with
some automatic grouping according to filters on properties.

And the AGPS provides the icing on the cake: a common example
is where the heck did I park my car. With this application, the
happy owner of a Neo would select the object representing his car
as he leaves it and hit a button to associate the Neo's current
position in space-time with it. Later, he could just select the car
object again and ask the Neo to show him the way.

Robin

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