Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Ken Smith
On Jan 11, 2008 12:21 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lon, Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and apparently even more have appeared: http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Jan 12, 2008 7:42 AM, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: agreed... plus how often does a consumer ready phone get rebooted? last time I did mine was to swap the sim card into my neo In my experience it is like this: Nokia phones needs to be rebooted every week. This has been

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread kenneth marken
On Saturday 12 January 2008 07:26:18 Ted Lemon wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote: I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible. I

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread kenneth marken
On Friday 11 January 2008 23:20:51 Lon Lentz wrote: I would recommend everyone go read Wired's article on the story of the iPhone development. Read about how well their prototype did. Hint: The iPhone didn't magically appear as a finished project out of thin air by shear will power. The

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Zitune
On Jan 12, 2008 3:12 PM, kenneth marken [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: imo its a much better feature then looking at a boot graphic that never stops looping and wonder why it does not... For sure, but it seem importqnt to be able to hide the boot scroll for mass market. Not all people are open

Re[2]: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
Ted Lemon wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote: I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible. I thought that was weird. The boot

Re: Re[2]: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Torfinn Ingolfsen
Hello, On Jan 12, 2008 5:34 PM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, we left that in on purpose -- especially for the geeks. Of course, it's scheduled for removal in a consumer-only release (whenever that may come) release. Well I guess you just can't please everyone :/

Re: Re[2]: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:55 AM, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote: And we want the matrix screensaver too. :-) And it can't run down the batteries... :') ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: Re[2]: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-12 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jan 12, 2008, at 9:34 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: Well I guess you just can't please everyone :/ Sure you can - put a switch in the phone's advanced preferences! :') Anyway, I have always felt that with a little dress-up, the verbose startup could become reassuring rather than

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-11 Thread Dr. H. Nikolaus Schaller
Am 10.01.2008 um 22:20 schrieb Michael Shiloh: We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few months. As always, we can't be

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Jay, Thanks for your enthusiasm. Jay Vaughan wrote: We're still testing the hardware and gathering up little issues before determining whether we need to create another version of the board. We still expect to start shipping Neo FreeRunner sometime in the next few months. As always,

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-11 Thread Brad Midgley
Michael I'm pretty sure that the only new things we mentioned were new hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and the accelerometers. ah yes, 3d! It'll be nice to have 3d renderings using something like google earth ;) -- Brad

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Gabriel Ambuehl
On Friday 11 January 2008 21:21:41 Michael Shiloh wrote: Hi Lon, Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and apparently even more have appeared: http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Nick Guenther
On 1/11/08, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Lon, Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and apparently even more have appeared: http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Jan 11, 2008 2:17 PM, Nick Guenther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The comments are.. not so happy. :/ Yeah it didn't make a good impression to show the boot messages, and a buggy crashing version of the UI. It really doesn't make sense, in that the rest of us are getting better results with the

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-11 Thread Denis
Unfortunately, opengl drivers for the SMedia chip will unlikely be ready by the release of FreeRunner. Only XRender extension is implemented by now. Also, GoogleEarth is closed-source and therefore can not be recompiled for ARM. P.S. Does anyone know whether we'll see accelerated XVideo extension

Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Lon, Will from our office pointed me at these, but that was yesterday and apparently even more have appeared: http://gizmodo.com/341755/openmoko-neo-freerunner-linux-smartphone-hands+on http://takezero.net/3g-and-mobile-news/hands-on-with-fics-openmoko-powered-freerunner-2

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-11 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Brad, I'm pretty sure that the only new things we mentioned were new hardware features: WiFi, faster processor, 2D/3D accelerator chip, and the accelerometers. Fixed GSM firmware is not new because that's already included in GTA01 units (those that shipped after we got the fixed

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Lon Lentz
Thanks, Michael. That was what I was looking for. Geek tech sites covering you guys at the show. I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible. I would

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Ted Lemon
On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote: I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible. I thought that was weird. The boot scroll is one of my

Re: Videos and pictures of Neo FreeRunner at CES: (was: Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008)

2008-01-11 Thread Jeff Andros
On Jan 11, 2008 11:26 PM, Ted Lemon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jan 11, 2008, at 3:20 PM, Lon Lentz wrote: I read the not so happy comments following the Gizmodo article. A lot of those comments have been made here on this list. Like the repeated ones about the boot scroll being visible.

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Gilbert Hartmann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Shiloh wrote: Neo FreeRunner press release and the CPU speed -- The Neo FreeRunner press release that went out last week indicated a 500MHz CPU which, as many of you pointed out, is in conflict

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Michael Shiloh
Hi Ian, ian douglas wrote: Although it would be nice to take advantage of this faster processor, 3 problems make this impractical Michael, If I'm reading your message correctly, the GTA02 will indeed have a 500MHz processor, but will not be running at 500MHz because of the three

Re: community update, Thursday, January 10, 2008

2008-01-10 Thread Lon Lentz
Michael, Are you aware of any online sites that might have done any video of this? On Jan 10, 2008 4:20 PM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, A brief status report from OpenMoko: Consumer Electronics Show, Las Vegas We've just