Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-23 Thread Marco Trevisan (Treviño)

index.php/User:Onion/MapperMarcus Bauer ha scritto:

Hello,

I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
Openmoko/Neo. 


It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
position and track if a gps signal is available.


Looking at the demos it seems to be a rellay good project, the support 
for the OSM maps is good, but what about integrating support for 
libgarmin as navit does to allow using also free and commercial garmin 
maps (of course, waiting OSM to grow)?


Bye!

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo: Installation fails, needs libgps16.

2008-02-17 Thread Audrius Meskauskas

#!/bin/sh
killall ld-linux.so.2


The installation fails with the message:

ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangoGPS:
libgps16 (= 2.34)

Any ideas where this library is and how to get it? I have the gllin 
installed and working (we work on a GPS Sight), and I tried to put the 
shell scripts that were given in the first message of this thread.


Audrius Meskauskas


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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo: Installation fails, needs libgps16.

2008-02-17 Thread Christopher Earl
apt-get install gpsd

 Audrius Meskauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/08 6:09 AM 
#!/bin/sh
killall ld-linux.so.2

The installation fails with the message:

ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangoGPS:
 libgps16 (= 2.34)

Any ideas where this library is and how to get it? I have the gllin 
installed and working (we work on a GPS Sight), and I tried to put the 
shell scripts that were given in the first message of this thread.

Audrius Meskauskas


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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo: Installation fails, needs libgps16.

2008-02-17 Thread Christopher Earl
Ha Ha Yup, guess you can tell who uses Debian

 Tim Knapp [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/08 5:22 PM 
On Sun, 2008-02-17 at 16:08 -0500, Christopher Earl wrote:
 apt-get install gpsd

Don't you mean ipkg install gpsd :)

-Tim

 
  Audrius Meskauskas [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/17/08 6:09 AM 
 #!/bin/sh
 killall ld-linux.so.2
 
 The installation fails with the message:
 
 ERROR: Cannot satisfy the following dependencies for tangoGPS:
  libgps16 (= 2.34)
 
 Any ideas where this library is and how to get it? I have the gllin 
 installed and working (we work on a GPS Sight), and I tried to put the 
 shell scripts that were given in the first message of this thread.
 
 Audrius Meskauskas
 
 
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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-13 Thread Michael Shiloh

Hi Marcus,

This looks very useful. I will try to test this out.

Thanks very much for your contribution,

Michael

Marcus Bauer wrote:

Hello,

I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
Openmoko/Neo. 


It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
position and track if a gps signal is available.


In order to run it you must have gllin and gpsd installed and running. 


A working way for doing so is this gllin-script:
---
#!/bin/sh
killall ld-linux.so.2
killall gpsd
mknod /tmp/nmeaNP p
gpsd -n /tmp/nmeaNP
cd /home/root/gllin
lib/ld-linux.so.2
--library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
 /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -low 5 21  /dev/null
lib/ld-linux.so.2
--library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
 /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -periodic 1 
---

You can check gpsd by connecting to the port 2947 and then typing r,
which should look similar to this:

---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nc localhost 2947
r
GPSD,R=1
$GPGGA,091823.00,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,1,04,3.0,066.0,M,0.313003,M,0.0190515,*49
$GPRMC,091823.00,A,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,000.0,150.0,040208,,,A*53
$GPGSV,3,1,11,16,75,244,24,21,50,054,21,18,43,106,34,06,29,094,21*73
$GPGSV,3,2,11,03,45,295,,07,28,095,,22,28,156,,19,17,283,*7A
$GPGSV,3,3,11,24,11,050,,25,11,317,,29,07,094,*49
$GPGSA,A,3,06,16,18,21,6.7,3.0,6.0*3D
.
.
.
---


When this all works, you can start tangogps. Make sure your Neo is
connected to the internet so that it can download maps.



You can find a precompiled ipkg, more info and a video on
http://www.tangogps.org/


Enjoy  let me know if it is useful for you!

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-13 Thread Lionel Dricot
Hi Marcus,

I saw your name on the FOSDEM schedule and will attend your conference :-)

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 7:38 AM, Michael Shiloh [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hi Marcus,

 This looks very useful. I will try to test this out.

 Thanks very much for your contribution,

 Michael

 Marcus Bauer wrote:
  Hello,
 
  I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
  Openmoko/Neo.
 
  It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
  them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
  position and track if a gps signal is available.
 
 
  In order to run it you must have gllin and gpsd installed and running.
 
  A working way for doing so is this gllin-script:
  ---
  #!/bin/sh
  killall ld-linux.so.2
  killall gpsd
  mknod /tmp/nmeaNP p
  gpsd -n /tmp/nmeaNP
  cd /home/root/gllin
  lib/ld-linux.so.2
  --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
   /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -low 5 21  /dev/null
  lib/ld-linux.so.2
  --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
   /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -periodic 1 
  ---
 
  You can check gpsd by connecting to the port 2947 and then typing r,
  which should look similar to this:
 
  ---
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nc localhost 2947
  r
  GPSD,R=1
  $GPGGA,091823.00,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,1,04,3.0,066.0,M,0.313003
 ,M,0.0190515,*49
  $GPRMC,091823.00,A,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,000.0,150.0
 ,040208,,,A*53
  $GPGSV,3,1,11,16,75,244,24,21,50,054,21,18,43,106,34,06,29,094,21*73
  $GPGSV,3,2,11,03,45,295,,07,28,095,,22,28,156,,19,17,283,*7A
  $GPGSV,3,3,11,24,11,050,,25,11,317,,29,07,094,*49
  $GPGSA,A,3,06,16,18,21,6.7,3.0,6.0*3D
  .
  .
  .
  ---
 
 
  When this all works, you can start tangogps. Make sure your Neo is
  connected to the internet so that it can download maps.
 
 
 
  You can find a precompiled ipkg, more info and a video on
  http://www.tangogps.org/
 
 
  Enjoy  let me know if it is useful for you!
 
  Marcus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread jan korinek
Very good!!! fast and working. Is there a way to predownload some maps 
in some radius? GPRS is expensive :)


Thanks
Jan



Shawn Rutledge napsal(a):

On Feb 4, 2008 2:35 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
Openmoko/Neo.

It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
position and track if a gps signal is available.




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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 08:58 +0100, jan korinek wrote:
 Very good!!! fast and working. Is there a way to predownload some maps 
 in some radius? GPRS is expensive :)

I will come up with a collection of regional tgz-files and a script for
downloading.

For now you can simply zoom and drag the map around, tangogps will store
all map tiles for offline use. 

Be default it saves maps to /tmp but you can change that in the config.
I use /media/card/maps/osm. Note: don't add a trailing slash on the
path, there is a bug which makes tangogps crash on that.

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread Christopher Earl
Marcus,
  Where is the config located , stupid new unstable OM image has a 
new OSKB with no slashes

 Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/05/08 4:53 AM 
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 08:58 +0100, jan korinek wrote:
 Very good!!! fast and working. Is there a way to predownload some maps 
 in some radius? GPRS is expensive :)

I will come up with a collection of regional tgz-files and a script for
downloading.

For now you can simply zoom and drag the map around, tangogps will store
all map tiles for offline use. 

Be default it saves maps to /tmp but you can change that in the config.
I use /media/card/maps/osm. Note: don't add a trailing slash on the
path, there is a bug which makes tangogps crash on that.

Marcus


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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Tue, 2008-02-05 at 06:44 -0500, Christopher Earl wrote:
  Where is the config located , stupid new unstable OM image has a new OSKB 
 with no slashes


It is gconf, thus you can use gconftool-2 to get/set the keys. Currently
there are:
- /apps/tangogps/repos
- /apps/tangogps/repo_name

more info in man gconftoll-2

Hope that helps!


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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-05 Thread Kai Winter

Lionel Dricot schrieb:

- Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ?
I´m developing a Qtopia based mapping widget. It can be found here: 
http://www.medieninf.de/qmapcontrol/

or on sourceforge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/qmapcontrol
I've tested it on the Neo as well as on the Greenphone.

Best regards
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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Lionel Dricot
Hello,

I'm highly interested in your software. I'm curious about a comparison with
Maermo mapper. And also : how hard do you think it would be to port your
TangoGPS to Maemo (Nokia N810) ?

Great job !

On Feb 4, 2008 10:35 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hello,

 I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
 Openmoko/Neo.

 It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
 them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
 position and track if a gps signal is available.


 In order to run it you must have gllin and gpsd installed and running.

 A working way for doing so is this gllin-script:
 ---
 #!/bin/sh
 killall ld-linux.so.2
 killall gpsd
 mknod /tmp/nmeaNP p
 gpsd -n /tmp/nmeaNP
 cd /home/root/gllin
 lib/ld-linux.so.2
 --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
  /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -low 5 21  /dev/null
 lib/ld-linux.so.2
 --library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
  /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -periodic 1 
 ---

 You can check gpsd by connecting to the port 2947 and then typing r,
 which should look similar to this:

 ---
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nc localhost 2947
 r
 GPSD,R=1
 $GPGGA,091823.00,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,1,04,3.0,066.0,M,0.313003,M,
 0.0190515,*49
 $GPRMC,091823.00,A,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,000.0,150.0,040208,,,A*53
 $GPGSV,3,1,11,16,75,244,24,21,50,054,21,18,43,106,34,06,29,094,21*73
 $GPGSV,3,2,11,03,45,295,,07,28,095,,22,28,156,,19,17,283,*7A
 $GPGSV,3,3,11,24,11,050,,25,11,317,,29,07,094,*49
 $GPGSA,A,3,06,16,18,21,6.7,3.0,6.0*3D
 .
 .
 .
 ---


 When this all works, you can start tangogps. Make sure your Neo is
 connected to the internet so that it can download maps.



 You can find a precompiled ipkg, more info and a video on
 http://www.tangogps.org/


 Enjoy  let me know if it is useful for you!

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tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Marcus Bauer

Hello,

I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
Openmoko/Neo. 

It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
position and track if a gps signal is available.


In order to run it you must have gllin and gpsd installed and running. 

A working way for doing so is this gllin-script:
---
#!/bin/sh
killall ld-linux.so.2
killall gpsd
mknod /tmp/nmeaNP p
gpsd -n /tmp/nmeaNP
cd /home/root/gllin
lib/ld-linux.so.2
--library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
 /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -low 5 21  /dev/null
lib/ld-linux.so.2
--library-path /home/root/gllin/lib:/home/root/gllin/usr/lib \
 /home/root/gllin/gllin.real -periodic 1 
---

You can check gpsd by connecting to the port 2947 and then typing r,
which should look similar to this:

---
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ nc localhost 2947
r
GPSD,R=1
$GPGGA,091823.00,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,1,04,3.0,066.0,M,0.313003,M,0.0190515,*49
$GPRMC,091823.00,A,4441.889619,N,00817.008749,E,000.0,150.0,040208,,,A*53
$GPGSV,3,1,11,16,75,244,24,21,50,054,21,18,43,106,34,06,29,094,21*73
$GPGSV,3,2,11,03,45,295,,07,28,095,,22,28,156,,19,17,283,*7A
$GPGSV,3,3,11,24,11,050,,25,11,317,,29,07,094,*49
$GPGSA,A,3,06,16,18,21,6.7,3.0,6.0*3D
.
.
.
---


When this all works, you can start tangogps. Make sure your Neo is
connected to the internet so that it can download maps.



You can find a precompiled ipkg, more info and a video on
http://www.tangogps.org/


Enjoy  let me know if it is useful for you!

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Marcus Bauer
On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 10:51 +0100, Lionel Dricot wrote:
 
 I'm highly interested in your software. I'm curious about a comparison
 with Maermo mapper. And also : how hard do you think it would be to
 port your TangoGPS to Maemo (Nokia N810) ?
 
 Great job !

Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo
with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen,
whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and
to be usable without hardware buttons.

Before porting tangogps the code needs a good deal of clean-up but then
a port is quite straightforward. However, you will want to adapt it to
more buttons and landscape mode. 

If you want to port it, I will support you. However, for now I will
focus my work on more features - yet a future port is possible.

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Lionel Dricot
Thanks for the quick reply :-)

So, if a I follow you, tango GPS and Maemo Mapper have the same exact goal
(in terms of features). They only differ by their adaptation to their
respective hardware ?

I'm thinking about building a localisation-based feature both on OpenMoko
and Maemo but with an high priority on Maemo. I have the following options :

- Develop with Maemo Mapper then, later, port Maemo Mapper to OpenMoko
- Develop with Maemo Mapper then, later, port my feature to TangoGPS
- Port TangoGPS to Maemo then develop my feature in Tango GPS
- Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ?

However, I'm pleased to hear that porting is quite straightforward. I have
no idea about compatibility between OpenMoko and Maemo apps.

Thanks for the good job !

Lionel

On Feb 4, 2008 11:25 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 2008-02-04 at 10:51 +0100, Lionel Dricot wrote:
 
  I'm highly interested in your software. I'm curious about a comparison
  with Maermo mapper. And also : how hard do you think it would be to
  port your TangoGPS to Maemo (Nokia N810) ?
 
  Great job !

 Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo
 with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen,
 whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and
 to be usable without hardware buttons.

 Before porting tangogps the code needs a good deal of clean-up but then
 a port is quite straightforward. However, you will want to adapt it to
 more buttons and landscape mode.

 If you want to port it, I will support you. However, for now I will
 focus my work on more features - yet a future port is possible.

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread joerg
Am Mo  4. Februar 2008 schrieb Ian Darwin:
 Marcus Bauer wrote:
  
  Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo
  with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen,
  whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and
  to be usable without hardware buttons.
 
 Neo can use portrait or landscape. There's a menu item for it.

And g-sensors... ;-)
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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Schmidt András

Hi community,

Lionel Dricot wrote:

- Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ?
I am developing one: http://sf.net/projects/yamamap. See wiki on 
sourceforge for details. There is a demo on sourceforge but unluckily it 
does not work on the Linux devices yet (due to some incompatibilities in 
gnu classpath). You can try it on your PC. The current SVN version works 
over the Jalimo Java framework and will be released soon.


It views vector based maps offline (stored on flash), and has an own 
format. Currently I am creating scripts for map compilation from OSM. 
When the scripts are ready I will announce that on this list.


It is already reported to work on N810 and OpenMoko. (I have none of 
them yet :-(). There is a Windows Mobile port as well but I will not 
develop that any further.


SA


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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Steven Le Roux
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008 12:06:06 +0100, Lionel Dricot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Thanks for the quick reply :-)
 

 - Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ?
 

Navit ? (http://wiki.navit-project.org/index.php/Main_Page)

works on both, maemo and openmoko...




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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Ian Darwin

Marcus Bauer wrote:


Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo
with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen,
whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and
to be usable without hardware buttons.


Neo can use portrait or landscape. There's a menu item for it.

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Robin Paulson
On 05/02/2008, Steven Le Roux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  - Any other Open Source GPS application in the field ?
 

mapper - a port of maemo-mapper to non-maemo environments:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/User:Onion/Mapper

although getting it running can be a bit of a trial

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Christopher Earl
May i suggest a button to A) stop trails and b) always auto center/follow. Good 
work though 

 Ian Darwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/04/08 8:00 AM 
Marcus Bauer wrote:
 
 Quick answer: on a N810 you are happier with maemo-mapper, on the Neo
 with tangogps. You have more buttons on the N810 and a landscape screen,
 whereas the Neo uses portrait-mode. tangogps was designed to be fast and
 to be usable without hardware buttons.

Neo can use portrait or landscape. There's a menu item for it.

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Re: tangoGPS, a new gps mapping software for the Neo

2008-02-04 Thread Shawn Rutledge
On Feb 4, 2008 2:35 AM, Marcus Bauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I wrote tangoGPS, a small but fast gps and mapping software for
 Openmoko/Neo.

 It uses openstreetmap.org maps, downloading them on demand and caching
 them. You can drag the map, zoom in and out and see your current
 position and track if a gps signal is available.

That's really good for an 0.1 version!  It is indeed small and fast.
I like it!  Now if we just had GPRS working so as to download maps on
the go...

On Feb 4, 2008 6:08 AM, Christopher Earl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 May i suggest a button to A) stop trails and b) always auto center/follow. 
 Good work though

Auto-center could be a checkbox or toggle-button.  Sometimes you want
to explore the map; other times you want to see where you are
continuously, without having to interact with it at all.  If you drag
the map too far, it should automatically toggle into the off state, so
you can explore the map without interference; then you just have to
toggle it back on again to jump instantly back to the current
position.

I also notice a smearing effect that is probably caused by rapidly
repainting the same tile during dragging (the tile gets painted into
its new position, but the previous position was not erased, nor
covered up by another tile, so you see the edges of it, still there).
It is distracting and takes a second to be repainted correctly again
after the dragging stops.  But I'm impressed that the dragging itself
is otherwise so smooth.

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