(We have external LNA) It means it can track with a 16dBm reduction
in
GPS signal after it made the satellite acquisitions. So if you
understood it will get a fix OK with the software workaround, and we
saw
many people report this, you should expect the tracking phase to work
better
I would take this to mean that your current location drifts from the
actual spot to places not quite where you are standing.
Exactly. I will try to upload some logs (just discovered the /tmp
change in tangogps, grr.. some test data has been lost) in the next
few days that demonstrate this
2008/7/30 Jay Vaughan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Just sayin', not trying to stir the pot. I've been testing this GPS
fix every day since it arrived, by tracking my progress to work, and
if I zoom too closely (meaning there is more SD I/O on map refreshes)
the GPS goes wild.
Do you (all) have also
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| Just sayin', not trying to stir the pot. I've been testing this GPS
| fix every day since it arrived, by tracking my progress to work, and
| if I zoom too closely (meaning there is more SD I/O on map
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Jay Vaughan wrote:
My ride to and from work is through a wide open space with no
obstructions, lots of blue sky, and for sure .. SD I/O still massively
impacts GPS *accuracy*. Not just in the acquisition phase, but also
tracking ..
That's strange. I didn't test
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Jay Vaughan wrote:
| My ride to and from work is through a wide open space with no
| obstructions, lots of blue sky, and for sure .. SD I/O still massively
| impacts GPS
Jay Vaughan wrote:
(We have external LNA) It means it can track with a 16dBm reduction
in
GPS signal after it made the satellite acquisitions. So if you
understood it will get a fix OK with the software workaround, and we
saw
many people report this, you should expect the tracking
We're not done with what we can do to mitigate it in software. These
guys should be in tomorrow's kernel.
okay i'll continue testing and logging in the meantime ..
;
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Somebody in the thread at some point said:
| We're not done with what we can do to mitigate it in software. These
| guys should be in tomorrow's kernel.
|
|
| okay i'll continue testing and logging in the meantime ..
Great.
- -Andy
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| Track is very accurate (no jump-offs the road) in the city.
Earlier I
| used Garmin
| GPS60 and tracks from it were way worse than from FR.
|
| I used today's kernel and u-boot.
That's pretty encouraging, thanks.
Hi again,
I made another test, driving back home. This time, I zoomed
So, to me, GPS works great now. I had more problems with accuracy of
my Garmin outdoor device.
on todays drive home i also did a trace - and got wildly sporadic
results when tangogps had to read maps again off the disk .. i do not
have the latest kernel, however, as it doesn't appear to
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| I drove here almost 100km/h (but don't tell anyone) on max zoom, to
| read tiles faster from the card. As you can see, no jump offs from the
| road.
|
| So, to me, GPS works great now. I had more problems
and a negative - I moved the maps in tangoGPS from /tmp to the (orig
freerunner) sdcard and it only works partially or not at all. This is
offline usage. If I am online and I delete the map cache so tango
starts clean, it loads the maps fine - probably caches them in ram. If
I go offline to
Start with the software fix. It should slove the problem.
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Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 3:01 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference
, 2008 3:01 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Warranty after fix for GTA02 GPS rework for SD card interference
issue
what impact, if any, will there be on the warranty of the FR device once the
fix has been carried out ?
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On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store.
All new FR's have the HW fix and new software will be written to take
advantage of that HW platform.
The
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| The software fix alone allows you to get a fast TTFF but after that, sd
| card data transfers are just to noisy to maintain a high quality GPS
| data stream. Yes it works but poorly, which is better than
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
Unless you ditch your sd card as a data store.
I haven't had any problems with
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM, Mike Hodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Steven Kurylo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, Jul 29, 2008 at 12:11 PM, Scott Derrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
From everything I've heard a software only fix will not be enough.
Unless you
what impact, if any, will there be on the warranty of the FR device
once the fix has been carried out ?
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never did see an update on this from anyone at OpenMoko ?
-id
ian douglas wrote:
That is, what does it cover?
I have a box of Freerunners beside me, but they've been purchased as a
bulk order for 10 other buyers, so I don't want to open the boxes to see
if there's any warranty information
it cover?
I have a box of Freerunners beside me, but they've been purchased
as a
bulk order for 10 other buyers, so I don't want to open the boxes
to see
if there's any warranty information inside.
My impression was that the 14-day warranty on single units and 28-day
warranty on bulk
Not sure myself of the clear separation between community and support
lists, but perhaps this is more of a support question?
come on, it's a dear old evergreen on this list ... i'd really miss it if
it was to move.
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That is, what does it cover?
I have a box of Freerunners beside me, but they've been purchased as a
bulk order for 10 other buyers, so I don't want to open the boxes to see
if there's any warranty information inside.
My impression was that the 14-day warranty on single units and 28-day
warranty
On of my bulk buyers was cool enough to permit me to open his Freerunner
box -- no documentation of any kind that explains anything about a warranty.
Can someone at OM shed a little light so we can post it on the wiki?
-id
ian douglas wrote:
That is, what does it cover?
I have a box
On 7/12/08 simarillion wrote:
can somebody tell me if I will lose my warranty when I open my
Freerunner.
Hehe...do you really think we could get away with that kind of policy?!
This is Openmoko. If you /don't/ open your Neo, you should probably have
your warranty voided ;-)
-Sean
Sean Moss-Pultz wrote:
This is Openmoko. If you /don't/ open your Neo, you should probably have
your warranty voided ;-)
Wow, second best quote I've ever seen on this list.
The first being back in early May...
Andy Powell wrote:
Seriously, If everyone put as much effort into development
Hello,
can somebody tell me if I will lose my warranty when I open my Freerunner. I
don't know if I am allowed to remove the seal which is on one of the two torx
screws. I don't want to solder just check the connection plug of the GPS
antenna. Does it depend on the distributor or the country
On Sat, Jul 12, 2008 at 11:42:26AM +0200, simarillion wrote:
Hello,
can somebody tell me if I will lose my warranty when I open my Freerunner. I
don't know if I am allowed to remove the seal which is on one of the two torx
screws. I don't want to solder just check the connection plug
14 day for single
28 day for 10 pack.
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Sent: Monday, June 23, 2008 2:37 AM
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Subject: Re: warranty for 10 pack purchases
Shawn wrote:
Are there retailers
10 pack is a 28 day DOA.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:41 PM
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Subject: warranty
Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: warranty
Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S. warranty situation
for the FR? I understand that there is a 14-day DOA warranty.
Is that it? Or will we getting a 1-year or some such?
Please let us know
is a 28 day DOA.
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Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 1:41 PM
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Subject: warranty
Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S. warranty
.
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Subject: warranty
Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S. warranty situation
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Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S. warranty
situation
for the FR? I understand that there is a 14-day
steve wrote:
10 pack is a 28 day DOA.
If that's the only warranty, I'm worried. Is there any reseller or
other option in the U.S. that will give us a longer warranty? Spending
$369 on a unit with such a short warranty is scary.
I would like to know how others in the U.S. think about
I'm in Canada and worried about the same thing which is why I asked
initially.
On Wed, 25 Jun 2008, Ajit Natarajan wrote:
steve wrote:
10 pack is a 28 day DOA.
If that's the only warranty, I'm worried. Is there any reseller or
other option in the U.S. that will give us a longer warranty
in Germany (or the whole EU) every reseller has to give a warranty for
private customers from 2 years. i can't imagine that any reseller will
sell only one unit if there is no longer warranty option.
Ajit Natarajan schrieb:
steve wrote:
10 pack is a 28 day DOA.
If that's the only
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 3:24 PM, Arne Zachlod [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
in Germany (or the whole EU) every reseller has to give a warranty for
private customers from 2 years. i can't imagine that any reseller will
sell only one unit if there is no longer warranty option.
That's why I think
Steve/Michael,
Sorry to be a bother, but could you update us on the U.S. warranty
situation for the FR? I understand that there is a 14-day DOA warranty.
Is that it? Or will we getting a 1-year or some such?
Please let us know if there will be a difference in warranty between the
10 pack
Shawn wrote:
Are there retailers in the US like this? Are they offering 10 packs
the same as OM (with the same price and all of the goodies)?
I had asked a question a while back about the warranty of individual
units in a 10-pack and Steve responded as follows (dated April 17):
``I
On 2008-06-20 23:06:13 -0600, Vinc Duran wrote:
And is the warranty really only 28 days as in this faq?
http://gettingstartedopenmoko.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/faq-frequently-asked-questions/
Good catch. If that's true it's a good argument for ordering from
Pulster or some other distributor
: Re: warranty for 10 pack purchases
On 2008-06-20 23:06:13 -0600, Vinc Duran wrote:
And is the warranty really only 28 days as in this faq?
http://gettingstartedopenmoko.wordpress.com/2007/12/31/faq-frequently-asked-questions/
Good catch. If that's true it's a good argument for ordering from
i've seen this question come up a couple of times on the list, but
it's not been answered fully:
if we buy a 10-pack of freerunners, i assume they will come with a
warranty. how do we as individuals deal with warranty returns? will
there be 10 receipts in the box, or one?
having one makes things
On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Robin Paulson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i've seen this question come up a couple of times on the list, but
it's not been answered fully:
if we buy a 10-pack of freerunners, i assume they will come with a
warranty. how do we as individuals deal with warranty
Hi,
I'm subscribed in an italian GroupSale and we was baffled about this two points:
there will be a sales check and a warranty certificate for any buyer
or only the delegate of the groupsale will receive it?
my english isn't very well, sorry...
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Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 3:07 AM
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Subject: Re: Warranty on phase 1 phones
Openmoko,
A lot of people on the Group Order forum are asking about the
warranty protection of individual buyers when we consolidate
our orders. Is openmoko able to provide a solution
Openmoko,
A lot of people on the Group Order forum are asking about the
warranty protection of individual buyers when we consolidate
our orders. Is openmoko able to provide a solution where buyers may
take advantage of the bulk discount and reduced shipping
costs through Group Order
Steve,
Any info on the warranty? Thanks.
Ajit
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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 12:51:13 -0700
From: Ajit Natarajan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: community@lists.openmoko.org
Hi Steve,
If a group joins together to purchase the 10-pack, how will the warranty
What are the warrenty?
Alexander Frøyseth
Ian Stirling skrev:
Ajit Natarajan wrote:
Hi Steve,
If a group joins together to purchase the 10-pack, how will the
warranty work? I presume that each unit is individually warranted.
I'm sure that warranty service will require a purchase receipt
Alexander Frøyseth ha scritto:
What are the warrenty?
I figure that in Europe, if you buy regulary from a seller, it will be
included in the extra-price you'll have to pay here (that includes VAT,
battery recycling, warranty and more...).
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Hi Steve,
If a group joins together to purchase the 10-pack, how will the warranty
work? I presume that each unit is individually warranted. I'm sure
that warranty service will require a purchase receipt or some other
proof of purchase. What receipt would we use? If we have to register
Ajit Natarajan wrote:
Hi Steve,
If a group joins together to purchase the 10-pack, how will the warranty
work? I presume that each unit is individually warranted. I'm sure
that warranty service will require a purchase receipt or some other
proof of purchase. What receipt would we use
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Of course we'll have a warranty ;-)
I'm not sure of the exact terms at this point. Probably something
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Of course we'll have a warranty ;-)
I'm not sure
Ole Tange schrieb:
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Of course we'll have a warranty
* Ole Tange [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070220 14:52]:
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process
Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say by
leaning on it against a desk or something?
I find it unlikely but it would really put minds at ease when spending a
small fortune on a phone; plus it might be that extra incentive to lure even
more to this phone
* el jefe delito [EMAIL PROTECTED] [070220 17:20]:
Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say by
leaning on it against a desk or something?
I fear not. It's the one most probable way to kill the phone, and
probably the most expensive part to replace.
(E.g
On Tue, 2007-02-20 at 10:08 -0600, el jefe delito wrote:
Would this warranty cover accidental breakage of the large screen, say
by leaning on it against a desk or something?
hehe...sorry man. Couldn't help you here ;-)
I find it unlikely but it would really put minds at ease when spending
Are you asking for some kind of cover everything I can do to this
device warranty? If yes how about we sell you one for US$350?
If it has unlimited replacements for a year, maybe! ;) lol
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Andreas Kostyrka writes:
(E.g. experiences with laptops show, that a dead display is
practically never repaired.)
That's because the price of spare parts is normally jacked so high
that companies often make more money on replacement parts than on the
initial product's sale.
I find it
On 2/20/07, Pranav Desai [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 2/20/07, Sean Moss-Pultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 2007-02-19 at 17:32 -0800, Pranav Desai wrote:
Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process
Hey All,
Is there any warranty on phase 1 phones ? If the screen is bad, some
input ports don't work, etc. what will be the process then ?
Thanks
-- Pranav
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