Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
[cut] > OK, I won't close it tomorrow. Thank you. Maybe it is worth to mention that it is still open on CU? > (though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..) I am not counting on this. My hidden target ;) is to use this poll to get to know how many people reads CU and aren't subscribed to ML, if they start to vote. Regardless of voting results i will get some statistical info, which is my point. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
[cut] > > Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean > Community Update. I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my > statement. I don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS > that the majority of the readers are on this mailing list and have > already responded to the poll. Regardless, It would not hurt to > include it in the CU if there will be one soon. I apologize if I hit > an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.) Seems wrong. Getting me nervous need much more effort and finesse. What does, is that those 275 respondents you mentioned above are probably only those who are subscribed to one/some of mailing lists. And you are trying to ignore those who are looking information about their devices other ways, like OM wiki. We do not know how many they are such people, but I assume following: minimum - NULL, that means you are right maximum would be approximately the same as number of smart phones sold by OM Inc. This number might be greater than 300. I do not want to margin them, as we do not know how many they are. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] > > > > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of > > the usage votes. I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the > > results significantly. > So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop > releasing CUs > > Holy moly... where did that come from? By CU I am hoping you mean Community Update. I did not mention nor did I consider the CU in my statement. I don't know how many people read the CU but I would GUESS that the majority of the readers are on this mailing list and have already responded to the poll. Regardless, It would not hurt to include it in the CU if there will be one soon. I apologize if I hit an unseen nerve (and it seems I did.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] >> This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks! >> >> If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n >> forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other >> need to spread the word. > If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer? OK, I won't close it tomorrow. (though I'm still pretty sure nothing dramatic will happen..) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
[cut] > This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks! > > If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n > forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other > need to spread the word. If you really mean it, will you make those polls last longer? -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
[cut] > > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of > the usage votes. I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the > results significantly. So, you assume almost no one reads CU? In that case maybe we should stop releasing CUs -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 11:02 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > (I personally think that we've already seen what we want: what's the > most popular distro, and how much more popular it is than the others > and the same for the boot loader -> I'm sure the results will not > radically change, and OTOH my guess is that people who don't read > theses lists etc are not that active in using it either.. I might be > wrong of course) > > r > > > I completely agree... over 275 respondents with SHR claiming 65% of the usage votes. I don't think carrying on the poll will alter the results significantly. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:17 PM, Niels Heyvaert wrote: > Mind you, this list is not the only list to do with the Freerunner. I took > the liberty to post a message on another forum (http://forum.koolu.org/) and > mailinglist (android-freerun...@android.koolu.org) announcing the poll. This is exactly what you're supposed to do, well done, thanks! If one person starts stuff like this, he can only share it to n forums/lists - the people who read those and follow also some other need to spread the word. > Maybe there are other lists or forums where we could announce the poll? Don't know, possibly, I hope people will forward this there. Or did already a week ago.. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
>> Better idea? > > yes: don't harass people > > if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see > the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to > the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of > the community Mind you, this list is not the only list to do with the Freerunner. I took the liberty to post a message on another forum (http://forum.koolu.org/) and mailinglist (android-freerun...@android.koolu.org) announcing the poll. I've subscribed to the other list and visit the forum on a daily basis. Was not trying to influence the results towards Android, but just wanted to inform other parts of the FR community. Maybe there are other lists or forums where we could announce the poll? Niels. _ Lentekriebels? Speel samen met je vrienden de spelletjes die Windows Live je aanbiedt! http://www.messengerbillboard.be/nl/play ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
[cut] > So what's your idea to reach them? through CU (I can see you already did this, thanks) but make this poll last longer and invite people to vote with us. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
(I personally think that we've already seen what we want: what's the most popular distro, and how much more popular it is than the others and the same for the boot loader -> I'm sure the results will not radically change, and OTOH my guess is that people who don't read theses lists etc are not that active in using it either.. I might be wrong of course) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
2009/9/1 Alex Teiche : > Better idea? yes: don't harass people if they want to take part in the community, they'll join the list, see the email and maybe answer the survey. if they aren't subscribed to the list, it's probably cos they don't want to be an active member of the community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 1:40 AM, Robin Paulson wrote: > 2009/9/1 Alex Teiche : > > A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. > > i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front > page in months > Better idea? > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
2009/9/1 Alex Teiche : > A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. i use the wiki perhaps 2/3 times a week. i haven't been to the front page in months ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
A message on the front of the Wiki would be nice. Another poll that should be done at some point is what phone-front end people use. I like both Litephone and Paroli, and i'm wondering which one I should spend my time working on. On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 12:39 AM, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: > On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patryk Benderz > wrote: > > Hi Risto, > > could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some > > amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote > > also. > > So what's your idea to reach them? > > > r > > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 10:36 AM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > Hi Risto, > could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some > amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote > also. So what's your idea to reach them? r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
Hi Risto, could you make those polls available longer? I assume there are some amount of users who do not follow mailing list. We should let them vote also. -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote: > [cut] >> Could you add separate entries for Om 2007, Om 2008 and Om 2009? > +1 > I think we also should post our modifications (like changing state > files, or using other telephony software) because for some of us - like > me - stock SHR is unusable. > Also might be worth to to mention if it is used as daily or testing > phone. > Can you put this on top of this survey? I actually had OM2007, OM2008 and OM2009 separated as well as SHR unstable/testing - but then I decided that it's a mess since then I should also figure out the different versions of all other distros and I have no idea of Android or QT stuff.. I think it's enough that people tell the version in the name field (well ok, not everyone do it..). Just to have a nice overlook of the distros people use. And posting modifications: I think that's irrelevant, no-one uses the phone with zero modifications. But I think it makes sense to create another poll just to find out what telephone apps people use. Paroli, zhone, ...? You're welcome to run another poll later, for example in a month or two with these changes. r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
[cut] > Could you add separate entries for Om 2007, Om 2008 and Om 2009? +1 I think we also should post our modifications (like changing state files, or using other telephony software) because for some of us - like me - stock SHR is unusable. Also might be worth to to mention if it is used as daily or testing phone. Can you put this on top of this survey? -- Kind Regards, Patryk "LeadMan" Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments Email secured by Check Point ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
2009/8/26, Risto H. Kurppa : > Hi! > > Created a doodle poll to see what distros people run on their Openmoko > phones. > > Go & answer at http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq > > I'll close the poll in a week to add the results to > http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 > > > > r > > -- > | risto h. kurppa > | risto at kurppa dot fi > | http://risto.kurppa.fi > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > I think this is great idea, because the last survey is already quite outdated. [1] Could you add separate entries for Om 2007, Om 2008 and Om 2009? [1] http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=p2ZQdcRSVg9XfYLwBVsZicg ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[ALL] POLL: What distro do you use?
Hi! Created a doodle poll to see what distros people run on their Openmoko phones. Go & answer at http://doodle.com/sd2c8d8snr23eeqq I'll close the poll in a week to add the results to http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Community_Updates/Draft_2009-09-02 r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
