cellhunter problem after upgrade in shr-u

2010-05-13 Thread Chuck Norris
Now my cellhunter cannot check cellid. On pressing button check cellid I have in console: Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/bin/cellhunter.py, line 225, in check_cellid while len(self.cell_la) 4: TypeError: object of type 'dbus.Int32' has no len

cellhunter uploading traces (78.47.116.33)

2009-10-07 Thread Tony Berth
is 78.47.116.33 not alive any more? When I try to upload n offline log I don't get any access any more! Thanks Tony ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: cellhunter uploading traces (78.47.116.33)

2009-10-07 Thread Lars Hennig
The new address is: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/In order to make cellhunter work again you should upgrade to version 0.5.0___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: cellhunter uploading traces (78.47.116.33)

2009-10-07 Thread Petr Vanek
On Wed, 7 Oct 2009 20:34:54 +0200 (MEST) Lars Hennig n...@el-hennig.de (LH) wrote: MessageThe new address is: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/ In order to make cellhunter work again you should upgrade to version 0.5.0 but this will not convert already existing log file. you must run this before

Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server

2009-09-18 Thread Petr Vanek
So,. everything should be fine now, please visit http://cellhunter.omoco.de for the new version and report any bugs you hi, what is the correct procedure of uploading offline collected cells before the update? i had to change the path in cellhunter_offline.log from 78.47.116.33/~hole to

Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server

2009-09-18 Thread zaptac
Hi, Am 18.09.2009 09:49, schrieb Petr Vanek: So,. everything should be fine now, please visit http://cellhunter.omoco.de for the new version and report any bugs you hi, what is the correct procedure of uploading offline collected cells before the update? i had to change the path in

Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server

2009-09-18 Thread Petr Vanek
i had to change the path in cellhunter_offline.log from 78.47.116.33/~hole to ch.omoco.de/ and then it worked (used the older uploader so it doesn't say i am on version 5 yet. sed -i -e 's/78.47.116.33\/~hole/ch.omoco.de/' cellhunter_offline.log yes, have done pretty much the same, but it's

CellHunter nearness questions

2009-09-16 Thread EdorFaus
Hi, I've been doing some cellhunting, and have some questions about the near (OCoGn) locations that I haven't been able to find answers to. I'm asking here instead of in private because I figure others might be interested as well. First, how near is near? Or stated differently, how far apart

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
to this. 1) if OpenBMap imports from other projects, why it's missing the 7milj cellhunter cells? There are not 7 M cells. 140K or so I think. And at the time of the last import, no cellhunter data had made their way to opencellid database yet. But it was planned by cellhunter, thus we did

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
is that only OpenCellID provides a complete access to the data and the measures. Does cellhunter not provide access to all the collected data? OpenBmap has on his main page the link to download all the data files, exactly as sent by the users. This is a fact you may have checked easily

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
Leonti Bielski wrote: So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? Please see the nice work from Christian Gagneraud in the archive about comparison of what's get logged/stored by CH, OBM and OCI logger/database: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2009-June/049238.html Onen

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-10 Thread Onen
Thomas Landspurg wrote: Again , and clarifiacation: ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) OpenCellID: 433 574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells OpenBMap: 82 963 cells (sorry for talking the risk of being

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Great, good to know that you are back. So I would like to be sure that you received my latest emails / linked in invitation/facebook inviation in order to make sure that we still can continue to discuss! :-) 2009/9/3 Onen onen...@free.fr: Hi, I was away from my computer, I try to go now

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Hello Risto, That's exactly the objective.There is a clear difference and complementarity between a general purpose database and the CellsHunter game for instance. The good news is that we are progressing well with CellsHunter to integrate their database. Currently the integration has been

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
CellHunter seems to be the app-specific you were talking about. Didn't find specs to tell what data it sends (didn't check the source). I think alt, speed and GPS precision etc information can be useful in calculating the position of the cells.  As a reminder, we are open to any suggestion on how

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
(decimal) lac: locale area code (in decimal) cellid: value of the cell id (in decimal) measured_at (optionnal) the time of the measure... lat:latitude when the measure has been taken lon:longitude when the measure has been taken Ok, downloaded the cellhunter database, this is what it stores

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see discussion about the algorithms you use to calculate the position of the cells. It must be something else than just

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 7:55 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: Ok, downloaded the cellhunter database, this is what it stores: provider        cell_mcc        cell_mnc        cell_la cell_id cell_arfcn      signal  gps_time        gps_lat gps_long        gps_alt gname   local_time

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleirmaxi...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at common api to submit cells and found that the openmoko OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api wanted. Both being opensource, here's my hackish solution to patch the OBM logger

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Alex (Maxious) Sadleir
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 8:49 PM, Risto H. Kurppari...@kurppa.fi wrote: On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Alex (Maxious) Sadleirmaxi...@gmail.com wrote: I looked at common api to submit cells and found that the openmoko OBM logger app was missing *one* field (arfcn) that cellhunter api wanted

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
. My suggestion, implemented today in the opencellid api is the following: add the missing informaiton in the extraInfo field, as tag/value. For instance, extraInfo=speed=123,alt=12,hdop=12,vdop=6 etc. This is already used by some tools for instance the cellhunter importer put the team name

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-06 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Thanks for the information, I'll subscribe to it. 2009/9/6 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi: Btw you all three (openbmap, cellhunter, opencellid) devels are warmly welcome to join FOSS-GPS -mailing list (http://lists.osgeo.org/mailman/listinfo/foss-gps) - I'd like to see discussion about

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Yorick Moko
it, from an end-user point-of-view: openBmap has the most cells openBmap maps the most information all I want is as much cells as possible AND know that I'm logging everything that increases the quality of the data (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) openBmap does the trick for both of them

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
the quality of the data (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) openBmap does the trick for both of them +1 (and I also know that onen/openBmap is working on software to do the location based on GPS cells) But if the projects want to co-operate and use same databases I'm thumbs up for it! r

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Thomas Landspurg
everything that increases the quality of the data (AFAIK cellhunter logs less information) openBmap does the trick for both of them +1 (and I also know that onen/openBmap is working on software to do the location based on GPS cells) But if the projects want to co-operate and use same

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Yorick Moko
Mokoyorickm...@gmail.com wrote: this is how I see it, from an end-user point-of-view: openBmap has the most cells openBmap maps the most information all I want is as much cells as possible AND know that I'm logging everything that increases the quality of the data (AFAIK cellhunter

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/3/09, Thomas Landspurg t.landsp...@8motions.com wrote: Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions I have some point of disagreement, but I would like first to stay polite and discuss with the OpenBMap guy. Does somebody knows where he disappear? I am trying to

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Onen
Hi, I was away from my computer, I try to go now through my emails... Thomas Landspurg wrote: Guys, I start to be a little bit deseperate by these discussions I have some point of disagreement, Please tell. but I would like first to stay polite You imply you think you have good

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-03 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
I have no idea what's going on between you people but: Now that I had a little thought, I really don't care how many copies of the database we have. All I care about is that a) there's a way to use the data (=a client capable to locate me based on the GSM cells around me) b) the client uses the

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Thomas Landspurg
be happy to reactivate the integration effort. Since the beginning, OpenCellID was focused on collecting the data and not writing clients for all platforms. I would be happy to support the OpenBMap client and do some modifications if needed. Regarding CellHunter, I would ba happy also to work

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Leonti Bielski
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti Leonti On 9/2/09, Thomas Landspurg

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Petr Vanek
So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would be happy. Leonti yes, it is lots of fun :) , the website

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Sebastian Krzyszkowiak
On 9/2/09, Leonti Bielski prishe...@gmail.com wrote: So how good or bad the data from Cellhunter project? For me it is a lot of fun to compete collecting cells. If it misses some data - let's just add more info about cells if necessary so then obm could import new data and everyone would

Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server

2009-09-02 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
So,. everything should be fine now, please visit http://cellhunter.omoco.de for the new version and report any bugs you find. Greetings, Sebastian ps: no deb package yet but will come ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
About the amount of cells, could someone explain me how many cells (with some kind of location information) cellhunter knows: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/images/cellhunter_statistic_all.png explained here: http://ch.omoco.de/cellhunter/?hideintro=1orderby=beginat= 7milj (don't know where I got

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Thomas Landspurg
Again , and clarifiacation: ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) OpenCellID: 433 574 cells CellHunter: 148 943 cells OpenBMap: 82 963 cells (sorry for talking the risk of being the 'bad' guy agin, but at the end

Re: cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-02 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 1:28 AM, Thomas Landspurgt.landsp...@8motions.com wrote:  Again , and clarifiacation:  ObenBMap have in fact less than 82963 cells (the 'trusted' cells), the others are coming from OpenCellId! ;) Yes, I knew that OBM had imported from OCI but to me the only thing that

CellHunter is moving to a new server

2009-09-01 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Hi, CellHunter is getting a new faster server! So CellHunter is moving. At the moment I am migrating the database to the new system and will check if everything is ok with the data. The bad part of the move is that I have to release a new version because the submit adress is hardcoded to the old

Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server

2009-09-01 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
On Tue, Sep 01, 2009 at 11:58:42PM +0200, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: CellHunter is getting a new faster server! So CellHunter is moving. At the moment I am migrating the database to the new system and will check if everything is ok with the data. The bad part of the move is that I have

cellhunter - openbmap - opencellid revisited... (was Re: CellHunter is moving to a new server)

2009-09-01 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 2:47 AM, Rui Miguel Silva Seabrar...@1407.org wrote: How does CellHunter compare with OpenBMap ? I think someone could write a wiki page about this and include it in FAQ's :) CellHunter: 7milj cells, clients: http://www.opkg.org/package_111.html and http://www.opkg.org

[cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Davide Scaini
Hi guys... i want ot ask if cellhunter data is going to be integrated for exampre in tangogps for positioning without gps... thanks d (and: *Shortnews:* 02/05/2009 - You want see something new? Click herehttp://78.47.116.33/%7Ehole/cellhunter/images/tangogps.png. View all cells in Tangogps

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread tb
As far as I know it is planned to integrate the data in fso so tangogps would benefit from that too 2009/8/6 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com Hi guys... i want ot ask if cellhunter data is going to be integrated for exampre in tangogps for positioning without gps... thanks d

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Onen
would benefit from that too 2009/8/6 Davide Scaini dsca...@gmail.com mailto:dsca...@gmail.com Hi guys... i want ot ask if cellhunter data is going to be integrated for exampre in tangogps for positioning without gps... thanks d (and: *Shortnews:* 02/05/2009

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Petr Vanek
and cellhunter, can we make sure both are utilized? Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Stefan Schmidt
, the rest doesn't matter to me. we have data in both openbmap and cellhunter, can we make sure both are utilized? And that sounds like You are doing the job, but I tell you what to do. :) As discussed several times on this very ml the cellhunter data finds his way into the openbmap database via

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Petr Vanek
doesn't matter to me. we have data in both openbmap and cellhunter, can we make sure both are utilized? And that sounds like You are doing the job, but I tell you what to do. :) i realize that, and it's not that way. it just feels silly to even think about not utilizibng all the c.h. data

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Onen
first, the rest doesn't matter to me. we have data in both openbmap and cellhunter, can we make sure both are utilized? And that sounds like You are doing the job, but I tell you what to do. :) i realize that, and it's not that way. it just feels silly to even think about not utilizibng all

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Petr Vanek
Exactly, as explained above. good :) Of course you could give openBmap a try, thus your new data would be there directly ;-) i better :) what if i run openbmap and cellhunter at the same time? Should run ok, as it only uses fso calls... Petr

Re: [cellhunter] about positioning

2009-08-06 Thread Onen
Petr Vanek wrote: what if i run openbmap and cellhunter at the same time? Should run ok, as it only uses fso calls... openBmap uses only FSO API. I think c.h. uses FSO Debug API to send AT commands. So I guess this should not be a problem. Onen

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-08 Thread Onen
freedom to upload his data to whatever database he wants (for example i would like to upload data to CH server for the fun and still contribute to OBM because i'm convinced of the higher quality of their data). Well and what if cellhunter changes his API, and or the data it uploads? I fear

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-07 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi all, I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server. I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert data from CH to OBM and upload them to OBM

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-07 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
hi, Christian Gagneraud schrieb: Christian Gagneraud wrote: Hi all, I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server. I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert data

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
that openbmap can use the cellhunter data. I will not combine these two databases. There are some mails here around with reasons for that. Yes, i've read about this, and i think that it's worth logging too much data than not enough... But cellhunter will cooperate with opencellid.org

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Stefan Schmidt
documented at the homepage and you can download the raw data. I bet he has the same issue I still have here with Firefox 3.0.9. The link list is not viewable. Try to mark all the text on the page with your mouse and you will discover those links. cellhunter ist not submitting to opencellid

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Christian Gagneraud
, no docs, no links, nothing...), and i said to myself They should rename their web site notsoopencellid.org! But with you trick, the truth appears to me! :) Thanks, Chris Try to mark all the text on the page with your mouse and you will discover those links. cellhunter ist not submitting

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
, we have to detect ch data in oci data when importing. Which makes more work. I talked with the openbmap owner about collaborating and got to the result that it will only happen in the way that openbmap can use the cellhunter data. I will not combine these two databases. There are some mails

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server. Thanks for the contributions! I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert data from CH to OBM

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Christian Gagneraud wrote: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: I just saw that openbmaps imports the opencellid data so there will be the cellhunter data in in future. That's a good point, but for example, yesterday evening i've uploaded lot of data (about 5 hours sampling every 10 seconds

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, Stefan Schmidt wrote: cellhunter ist not submitting to opencellid yet, because i have to prepare the data for that but it will happen. BTW, what will happen with the ARFCN informations then? That is a very good point. As I stated in another email on this thread, if we would upload

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-05 Thread Onen
Hi, thanks for the nice comments! Yorick Moko wrote: My personal preference goes out to openBmap, because I think they combine quality and quantity; quality: they log the most data (they are even working on TA) quantity: they have all the cells of cellhunter and opencellid For now, we

Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Christian Gagneraud
Hi all, I'm using cellhunter since few month, with which i have gathered some data (1646 cells so far here in Ireland) and uploaded to their server. I would like to give a try with OpenBmap, is there a way to convert data from CH to OBM and upload them to OBM server? I know that OBM log more

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Hi, about the conversion I cannot help you because I don't know the openbmap format. I talked with the openbmap owner about collaborating and got to the result that it will only happen in the way that openbmap can use the cellhunter data. I will not combine these two databases. There are some

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
At some stage I heard that Openbmap would save more information compared to opencellid. I don't know where's the problem but I really can't see why there has to be three databases for the same stuff - I'd guess it's just because of selfish people not willing to share and let others contribute or

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Stefan Schmidt
cell informations with more informations about the quality. Quality vs quantity gives them less cells of course. The also have the idea of more then just GSM cells. - cellhunter made a great start due to the game character - cellhunter data gets feed into opencell id - openbmap imports

Re: Cellhunter/OpenBmap

2009-06-04 Thread Yorick Moko
My personal preference goes out to openBmap, because I think they combine quality and quantity; quality: they log the most data (they are even working on TA) quantity: they have all the cells of cellhunter and opencellid I could be mistaken but from what i heard from onen (the creator of openBmap

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-05-03 Thread ivvmm
Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Hi, Here are some updates about cellhunter. I am currently working at an online map so you can view already found cells around you. I am using tangogps to display the cells and it looks like: http://78.47.116.33/~hole/cellhunter/images/tangogps.png I created

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-05-03 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
Hi, Here are some updates about cellhunter. I am currently working at an online map so you can view already found cells around you. I am using tangogps to display the cells and it looks like: http://78.47.116.33/~hole/cellhunter/images/tangogps.png I created a tangogps repository which overlays

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-27 Thread Onen
Hi, as stated before, FSO team has started some work on database on the phone. Maybe you should get in touch with them, in order to build something together. Of course if you think openBmap could be of any help with your work, feel free to get in touch with me! Onen fredrik normann wrote:

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-27 Thread fredrik normann
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, as stated before, FSO team has started some work on database on the phone. Maybe you should get in touch with them, in order to build something together. Are there some code somewhere that i can look at? Of course if you

Local GSM db on the phone (Was:Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future)

2009-04-27 Thread Onen
fredrik normann wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Onen onen.om http://onen.om@free.fr http://free.fr wrote: Hi, as stated before, FSO team has started some work on database on the phone. Maybe you should get in touch with them, in order to build something together.

Re: Local GSM db on the phone (Was:Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future)

2009-04-27 Thread fredrik normann
Thanks man! I am a bit offline right now, dont have internet in my house and have to use internet cafes :( But it makes time for reading code, lol -fredrin- On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 4:03 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: fredrik normann wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Onen onen.om

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread Onen
Hi, do you mean a local db, and you do not upload to an online db at all? Onen fredrik normann wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent settings do things according to that? -f-

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread Onen
Hi, regarding the settings based on location. ptitjes from SHR is working on an ologicd, which implements reasoning on the phone. He is interested in this cell location based service, as one of the inputs for his ologicd. Onen fredrik normann wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread Onen
that syncs to what ever database you like, cellhunter, openBmap -f- On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM, fredrik normann fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com mailto:fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-26 Thread fredrik normann
Understand that things are moving in the same direction :) but I still think a local db of the data you have collected yourself is a good idea :) I am playing with some code my self now, trying to make something. -f- On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, regarding

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-24 Thread fredrik normann
Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent settings do things according to that? -f- On Thu, Apr 23, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, adding to my last comments... Onen wrote:

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-24 Thread fredrik normann
And then you can have a sync scripts that syncs to what ever database you like, cellhunter, openBmap -f- On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 3:00 PM, fredrik normann fredrik.normann.j...@gmail.com wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-24 Thread ivvmm
fredrik normann wrote: Wouln't it be smarter to have a local db on the phone, so after a while the phone will learn where it is all the time and can aply diffrent settings do things according to that? -f- It seems a smart behaviour but still there is no activity in this direction in the

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-23 Thread Onen
Hi, adding to my last comments... Onen wrote: Ok. If I understand you correctly, you would like some kind of anonymous account, where people could upload if they don't want to create an account? Did I understand you correctly? Well I have nothing against it, it is a good idea to me.

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread ivvmm
Al Johnson wrote: These are great news. But it is very sorry that now no one claimed that this functionality will be provided. To speak more frankly many people would be glad to hear from the developer of TangoGPS, Marcus Bauer, that he is going to implement this feature. Why should the

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread Stefan Schmidt
[Resend as the ml seems not to like my other email address, but do not inform me about this either...] Hello. On Sun, 2009-04-19 at 15:58, Sebastian Hammerl wrote: So here is the call to all the developers around to create a location service based on the opencellid data. for me that database

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread vale
why do we need so many databases doing the same? cellhunter has far more cells than openbmap, so why not just bundle the effort and only have one database for getting cells with openmoko? greetings vale i think cellhunter has far more Stefan Schmidt wrote: [Resend as the ml seems

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread Stefan Schmidt
Hello. On Mon, 2009-04-20 at 05:05, vale wrote: why do we need so many databases doing the same? cellhunter has far more cells than openbmap, so why not just bundle the effort and only have one database for getting cells with openmoko? Seems you did not read my mail. To get the background

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-20 Thread vale
yes i read your email, but i think size matters ;) i prefer to get a less acurate position but get a position to beeing somewhere where we have no cells at all. if we have a big database its not that difficult to implement a position query by cell ... with cellhunter i think we have the main

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Onen
at least of some code or so. To my understanding, so far, cellhunter sees collaboration as sharing the data (Sebastian, please correct me if I am wrong). In the thread you will see that Sebastian will have little time to work on cellhunter until middle May. I let you read his answers in the mailing

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Yorick Moko
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you have a high speed,

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Pander
Yorick Moko wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: Hi, ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this that you

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Onen
Pander wrote: Yorick Moko wrote: On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 12:13 PM, Onen onen...@free.fr wrote: ivvmm wrote: I wonder how quick is it developed and how much people are involved in? This brings three questions: 1. if you have big HPV-Dops, your position is not very precise. If you add to this

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
in the developing of cellhunter. At the end of mai i will finish my master thesis and then i will have some more time for cellhunter and developing will go on. So when the next steps will be taken? I mean integrating the ability to get a fix from a network cell for GPS clients. TangoGPS for example

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread ivvmm
and even for merge at least of some code or so. To my understanding, so far, cellhunter sees collaboration as sharing the data (Sebastian, please correct me if I am wrong). In the thread you will see that Sebastian will have little time to work on cellhunter until middle May. I let you read his

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread ivvmm
Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Hi, At the moment it is only me involved in the developing of cellhunter. At the end of mai i will finish my master thesis and then i will have some more time for cellhunter and developing will go on. Can't wait for the future versions, or to say more for more

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Al Johnson
On Sunday 19 April 2009, ivvmm wrote: Sebastian Hammerl wrote: Cellhunter will cooperate with opencellid.org, the largest cell database i know. with the api of opencellid someone can offer a program to get a fix with cells or agps support. perhaps some location service will be added

Re: cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-19 Thread Onen
ivvmm wrote: Okay, I see. The both applications: openBmap and Cellhunter have their advantages and disadvantages. Please, feel free to write to me (publicly or privately) with your comments and/or suggestions about openBmap. The ToDo list is growing at the moment with people suggestions

cellhunter --- the state of development and future

2009-04-18 Thread ivvmm
the ability to get a fix from a network cell for GPS clients. TangoGPS for example? Or will cellhunter remain just a game? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

2009-03-20 Thread arne anka
On every openmoko distro like fso or shr the user is root with home /home/root/ those are iirc all oe based -- debian is an om distro too, and it does not use /home/root/ but /root/. gentoo does so to iirc. /tmp is a bad idea because its only tmpfs and deleted everytime it boots up. and

Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

2009-03-20 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
arne anka schrieb: Cellhunter tries to read out your $HOME variable. when NOT set it goes to /home/root (line 536) that seems to be a very strange fallback - where is root's home below /home/? so far i've seen it in oe only - why is the user root assumed? On every openmoko distro

Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

2009-03-20 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file. Here is the outcome when running from command line: --- __init__ __init__ / checking for homedir __init__ / found homedir = /home/root __init__ / init config __init__ / init wget file __init__ / init dbus

Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

2009-03-20 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
arne anka schrieb: On every openmoko distro like fso or shr the user is root with home /home/root/ those are iirc all oe based -- debian is an om distro too, and it does not use /home/root/ but /root/. gentoo does so to iirc. /tmp is a bad idea because its only tmpfs and deleted

Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

2009-03-20 Thread Tony Berth
-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file. Here is the outcome when running from command line: --- __init__ __init__ / checking for homedir __init__ / found homedir = /home/root __init__ / init config __init__ / init wget file __init__

Re: [Cellhunter] no offline log any more

2009-03-20 Thread Sebastian Hammerl
with parameter -d cellhunter.py -d perhaps this will tell you more. Sebastian I did re-start the phone but still 'cellhunter' doesn't create a log file. Here is the outcome when running from command line

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