Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2012-03-24 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2012/3/23 Thomas Günther :
> With your rootfs my Neo does boot. I can login via ssh but I only have
> a white bar at top on display. If I stop nodm I get a debian login
> prompt at top on display. Any idea what happens?

That's the "minimal" part of it. It is generous enough to offer you a
tray icon area, yet prudent enough not to overwhelm your screen with
so called "graphical user interfaces". :D

So you need to for example apt-get install what I proposed, although
that was just applications. Then something either stylus of finger
usable for application switching/launching.

-Timo

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Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2012-03-22 Thread elf Pavlik
Excerpts from Timo Jyrinki's message of 2012-03-21 16:24:25 +:
> 2011/9/12 Timo Jyrinki :
> > Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is
> > working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian
> > installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file
> > "Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz".
> 
> About the same story repeated, but for 2012. I was asked about the
> pre-installation image which prompted me to update it. And while
> updating it I noticed that install.sh had a couple of problems, which
> I fixed:
> - Removed obsolete fso-gpsd
> - Install fso-gtaXX instead of fso-config-gtaXX
> - Removed obsolete zhone
> - Offer phoneui-apps in COM
> - Switch from experimental (unneeded) to unstable for the main Debian 
> repository
> 
> I only tried minimal installation still, though. I also updated
> instructions for install.sh usage at
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner - note mainly that you
> probably want to remove openmoko-panel-plugin since its functionality
> starts to be limited and it eats most of the CPU for no good reason.
> 
> The pre-installed minimal rootfs is now at:
> http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/
> (Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz)
> 
> It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is
> unpacked and a Qi bootloader.
> 
> SSH:ing in works after booting (root password 'changeme'), and after
> apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd
> lxterminal phoneui-apps you may actually get something useful done. If
> you want some "home UI" to use when not attached to computer, you may
> try my hacky and ugly https://github.com/tjyrinki/tihos
> 
> As for my own setup, it's still the old
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki with FSO1 actually, but
> I now did this update to enable others more easily to do something
> useful.
> 
> -Timo
> 

Great! Thank you very much =)

First thing I did when setting it up, I've changed IPs as in new SHR:

NOTE: IP adresses are changed in new SHR-CORE images after 110822, phone 
192.168.7.2 host: 192.168.7.1 

It makes bit more sense to me than taking chance with ..0. ;)

~ elf Pavlik ~

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Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2012-03-21 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/9/12 Timo Jyrinki :
> Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is
> working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian
> installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file
> "Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz".

About the same story repeated, but for 2012. I was asked about the
pre-installation image which prompted me to update it. And while
updating it I noticed that install.sh had a couple of problems, which
I fixed:
- Removed obsolete fso-gpsd
- Install fso-gtaXX instead of fso-config-gtaXX
- Removed obsolete zhone
- Offer phoneui-apps in COM
- Switch from experimental (unneeded) to unstable for the main Debian repository

I only tried minimal installation still, though. I also updated
instructions for install.sh usage at
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner - note mainly that you
probably want to remove openmoko-panel-plugin since its functionality
starts to be limited and it eats most of the CPU for no good reason.

The pre-installed minimal rootfs is now at:
http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/
(Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20120321.tar.xz)

It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is
unpacked and a Qi bootloader.

SSH:ing in works after booting (root password 'changeme'), and after
apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd
lxterminal phoneui-apps you may actually get something useful done. If
you want some "home UI" to use when not attached to computer, you may
try my hacky and ugly https://github.com/tjyrinki/tihos

As for my own setup, it's still the old
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki with FSO1 actually, but
I now did this update to enable others more easily to do something
useful.

-Timo

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Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2011-09-19 Thread Timo Jyrinki
2011/9/20 Aditya Gandhi :
> Hi I have installed your image and have given the commands via ssh
>  apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal
> but no gui is up, how do I get it working? I do not have a sim, do I need
> it?

Like I said, "It is very much not functional as a phone
out-of-the-box, because of
the ongoing FSO1->FSO2 transition. X however starts automatically and
SSH answers, and you may work your way from there,". So, you have X
but for more you need to connect via SSH and install something
workable.

The Debian unstable repository is ongoing changes, and there is no
simple functional GUI at the moment. You can install Zhone from
experimental as instructed at
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner#Current_Status_of_Installation_via_install.sh
, but people reported problems with it although it starts.

Alternatives include installing a Debian stable and using Zhone there,
although if you don't have SIM Zhone is mostly about phone
functionality only anyway.

So, it is a work in progress and currently requires a lot of manual
work. My solution at the moment has been using circa Debian 6.0, Zhone
and my own dirty hack control app (https://github.com/tjyrinki/tihos),
but unfortunately I haven't done a clean install of my way that I
could share with others. Some others use for example IceWM for window
manager and launching applications like GPS.

-Timo

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Re: [Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2011-09-19 Thread Aditya Gandhi
Hi I have installed your image and have given the commands via ssh
 *apt-get install foxtrotgps gpsd navit omhacks monav midori wicd lxterminal
*
*but no gui is up, how do I get it working? I do not have a sim, do I need
it?
*
On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 7:13 AM, Timo Jyrinki wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is
> working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian
> installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file
> "Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz". The only
> additional thing that was done was apt-get install xorg omhacks before
> I added those as being done by install.sh automatically.
>
> [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
> [2] http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/
>
> It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is
> unpacked and a Qi bootlader.
>
> It is very much not functional as a phone out-of-the-box, because of
> the ongoing FSO1->FSO2 transition. X however starts automatically and
> SSH answers, and you may work your way from there, see [1] or even [3]
> (although it doesn't contain information on how to enable FSO2 at this
> moment when not everything new is yet in). When FSO2 is eventually in,
> together with some UI that can use it, let's improve install.sh again
> and maybe make a snapshot of a phone-working Debian unstable. I'm lazy
> enough not to try to replicate from clean state what I've running on
> my daily FreeRunner at the moment - it'd mean using install.sh but
> with stable repositories instead of unstable to have FSO1 and phone
> functionality, and then tweaking until all my little details work.
> It's anyhow going to be a thing of the past with FSO2 and new UI
> versions.
>
> [3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki
>
> -Timo
>
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[Debian] Preinstalled minimal image available for Neo FreeRunner

2011-09-12 Thread Timo Jyrinki
Hi,

Just to let you know, that since I tested that install.sh [1] is
working now, I'm making available a snapshot of a minimal Debian
installation since I had a clean install anyway [2] - see file
"Debian_NeoFreeRunner_minimalrootfs_20110912.tar.xz". The only
additional thing that was done was apt-get install xorg omhacks before
I added those as being done by install.sh automatically.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnFreeRunner
[2] http://people.debian.org/~timo/NeoFreeRunner/

It expects a single partition on the MicroSD card where the tar.xz is
unpacked and a Qi bootlader.

It is very much not functional as a phone out-of-the-box, because of
the ongoing FSO1->FSO2 transition. X however starts automatically and
SSH answers, and you may work your way from there, see [1] or even [3]
(although it doesn't contain information on how to enable FSO2 at this
moment when not everything new is yet in). When FSO2 is eventually in,
together with some UI that can use it, let's improve install.sh again
and maybe make a snapshot of a phone-working Debian unstable. I'm lazy
enough not to try to replicate from clean state what I've running on
my daily FreeRunner at the moment - it'd mean using install.sh but
with stable repositories instead of unstable to have FSO1 and phone
functionality, and then tweaking until all my little details work.
It's anyhow going to be a thing of the past with FSO2 and new UI
versions.

[3] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/User:TimoJyrinki

-Timo

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