[Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Thomas Bellembois
Hello Freerunners,

I have been using a Freerunner under Debian for one month. It is not yet 
fully usable, but I am still working on it.

1.GSM
Zhone works not too bad. I have applied the patch to use a VCARD file 
but the dial button does not work anymore (it works with contacts on 
the SIM card).
I have tried scripts to import a VCF file into the SIM card without 
success. I am not yet very aware of the dbus system to write my own 
Python script.
I have some bugs with SMS - the phone does not ring when I receive a 
message and the messages are always written as unread (until I reboot 
the phone).

2.PIM
I have tried:
-osmo: not recurrent events, no alarm (only for tasks)
-pimlico: not recurrent events, no alarm but uses Evolution's back-end
-GPE apps: fully functional apps but require gpesyncd for 
synchronisation - not available in the debian repositories

2.PIM SYNC
-osmo: not tried
-GPE apps: not tried - see below
-pimlico method 1:
  *contacts: imported successfully from a VCF file
  *tasks: not tried yet
  *dates: merged the ICAL files from Evolution and dates successfully 
(using a custom Python script)
-pimlico method 2:
  *successfully synchronised Evolution's contacts tasks and calendar 
with a Scheduleworld account using syncevolution (repository: deb 
http://www.estamos.de/download/apt stable main). I could not manage to 
sync the Freerunner due to a missing dependency with 
syncevolution-evolution (problem with the repository?).

3.GPS
TangoGPS works well. I have not tried Navit yet.

4.WIFI
Does not work yet (wifi-radar - wicd) - I think I have a dependency 
problem...

5.ACCELEROMETER
Works well - I have tried it with the mokomaze game (apt-get install it)

6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN
Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO.

What I would like to do:
-find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my 
desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2.
-configure the WIFI
-install Navit and buy reiseplaner maps
-make the autorotate work
-make Zhone fully usable

I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner 
under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.

Regards,

Thomas

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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Christophe Badoit
Thomas Bellembois a écrit :

Hi Thomas,

 1.GSM
 2.PIM

Not stable enough to use as daily phone, so I didn't test zhone  others
fully enough to comment.

Anyway, thank you for these comments, i'd love to use it eventually !

 3.GPS
 TangoGPS works well. I have not tried Navit yet.

Same here.
I don't know if it's due to kernel (andy - 2.6.29) but I manage to get
fixes even when I don't hope so (in my office, 4 meters from the window).

 4.WIFI
 Does not work yet (wifi-radar - wicd) - I think I have a dependency 
 problem...

No real problem here, I use wicd.
It works quite well, but is quite slow...
What I did actually :
1) Installed wicd (apt-get install wicd)
2) removed wicd from start-up (with update-rc)
3) in the openmoko-panel-plugin, I put in
  post-activate : /etc/init.d/wicd start; wicd-client
  pre-deactivate: /etc/init.d/wicd stop; pkill wicd-client

With this, when you activate wifi from om-panek-plugin, known networks
are automatically connected (if told so in wicd), wicd client shows an
icon in the tray.
And when you disable it, everything shuts down.

 5.ACCELEROMETER
 Works well - I have tried it with the mokomaze game (apt-get install it)

With last kernel, since it's EV_ABS instead of EV_REL, applications like
mokomaze have to be modified.
Beyond that, accelerometers work well for me, too.

 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN
 Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO.

No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu.
Sometimes works, sometimes not.

I hade to put 

 What I would like to do:
 -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my 
 desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2.

So would I !

 I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner 
 under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.

With more time, I'd like it to be fully functionnal =)
What windowmanager/panels system are you using ?

I'm using matchbox-wm + LXDE (not the best, but fast enough).

Regards,

-- 
Christophe Badoit


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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Christophe Badoit
Christophe Badoit a écrit :

 6.AUTOROTATE SCREEN
 Simple rotate freezes my freerunner with XGLAMO.
 
 No auto-rotate, just a rotate application that I launch from the menu.
 Sometimes works, sometimes not.
 
 I hade to put 

Sorry, I didn't finished the line :)

I had to put Xft.dpi:  96 in my ~/.Xresources , to prevent the dpi
to mess with the fonts after rotations.

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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Pierre Pronchery
Hey Thomas,

Thomas Bellembois wrote:
 
 I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional freerunner 
 under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.

You might want to try hackable:1, which is really Debian with Om2007 
telephony software:
http://www.hackable1.org/

Cheers,
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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper
dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application
for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of
any use.

I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to
stand up and say: these are the apps we should be working on and this is
what the gui should look like. I may even start a thread about that in a
few months.

I think if you like Edj (the e gui stuff) then you should focus on
getting Paroli ported to debian as that is going to be the default for
Om2009. (Somebody may even already be working on this)

Also, personally, I think screen locking is more important then auto
rotating, but any help is welcome.

Happy hacking!

Bram

On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 11:20 +0200, Thomas Bellembois wrote:
 What I would like to do:
 -find a usable configuration to use a PIM suite (synchronized with my 
 desktop PC) to replace my Palm TE2.
 -configure the WIFI
 -install Navit and buy reiseplaner maps
 -make the autorotate work
 -make Zhone fully usable
 
 I would like to know I somebody could have a fully functional
 freerunner 
 under debian ? Thanks in advance for your answers.
 


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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread arne anka
 A few mailings back I was told that Zhone is never going to be a proper
 dialer. Zhone is ment to be a debugging and feature testing application
 for the FSO framework. I don't think patching Zhone is going to be of
 any use.

that might be as it will, but so far zhone seems to be the only dialer  
available for debian based systems -- the limitations imposed upon zhone  
by the fso developers are not meant to hinder you, to improve it for your  
needs.
i consider developing a dialer gui since i have to do a gui project as  
part of my corresponce courses, but that's not decided yet.
and, yes, i knwo what someone is going to say -- but those projects are  
meant to do something from scratch, not participate in others developments.

 I don't know if there is anybody in the debian community who is going to
 stand up and say: these are the apps we should be working on and this is
 what the gui should look like.

who is supposed to know that?
if you think, there should be _one_ list of apps to necessary and _one_  
look'n'feel, you'd better switch to one of the more focused projects like  
shr or 200X. debian is about a huge pool of options, be it desktop  
managers, toolkits or apps, not streamlining all efforts into _one_.

 I may even start a thread about that in a
 few months.

well, why not yet? you seem to have some rather clear ideas, given your  
remarks.

 I think if you like Edj (the e gui stuff) then you should focus on
 getting Paroli ported to debian as that is going to be the default for
 Om2009. (Somebody may even already be working on this)

iirc the enlightment stuff is not yet fully available in debian, but work  
is going on.

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Re: [Debian] on Freerunner feed back

2009-04-17 Thread Bram Neijt
As you mention, debian may not be the right project to try to focus on a
subset of apps.

I'll have to retry hackable:1 and try SHR before I start trying to mold
a community of like-minded on top of debian ;) I don't think I have
enough of an overview to not end up being counter productive. Give it a
few months and I should be able to direct my comments to the right
people, making it easier on everybody.

Happy hacking!

Bram


On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 15:37 +0200, arne anka wrote:
  I may even start a thread about that in a
  few months.
 
 well, why not yet? you seem to have some rather clear ideas, given
 your  
 remarks.



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