Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-12 Thread Pander
It was indeed the WiFi. I had to delete the entire configuration in
order to shut it down :S

Kishore wrote:
 On Wednesday 12 Nov 2008 1:15:35 am Pander wrote:
 QtE also has way better battery life than anything else I've tried - I
 can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone.
 really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2
 with mwester's kernel.
 
 Be doubly sure that wifi is not enabled. If ever once enabled, you need to 
 reboot or wifi never really goes off even if the GUI says so. With wifi on I 
 get 
 about 5-6 hrs but otherwise I echo Warren's experience. Battery comfortably 
 last over 48 hrs.


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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Warren Baird
Well, I've been running QtE for a bit over a week now, and I wanted to give
kudos to Lorn and the QT team for making the FR something close to a usable
phone... It's not perfect yet- I'm still using the original images, so I
don't have bluetooth working, and there are a few other gaps, but at least I
haven't missed any calls due to slow responsiveness.

I've been rebooting the phone every day or two, and perhaps that's why I
haven't yet seen the strange instablities I was seeing earlier with FDOM and
QtE 4.4.1 - but the basic phone functionality has been pretty reliable - I
used the phone on a short business trip, and aside from having to reboot to
get out of 'airplane' mode, it worked well.

QtE also has *way* better battery life than anything else I've tried - I can
go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone.

For the first time, I'm starting to feel like I can use my FR as a phone.

Of course, I haven't had time to install any interesting software on the
phone, get wifi or gprs working, get the gps working, or anything like that,
so things may get more interesting at that point - but I've gone more than a
week without feeling the need to put my Sim back in my old cell phone.

Warren



On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been trying out QT Extended 4.4.2 for a few days now, and I thought
 I'd share my observations so far:

   - Stability seems better than I originally thought - After my one
 experience seeing it not wake up from suspend on a call, I haven't noticed
 any other issues - I've received a fair number of calls and sms's, and the
 phone has always woken up.

   - The biggest issue for me atm is that I don't get an audible ring tone
 for either calls or sms messages - This is a regression since QtE 4.4.1 -
 any suggestions on how to resolve it would be very welcome.

   - I've missed one un-expected phone call because by the time I noticed
 the vibration and got the phone out of my pocket, all I saw was the dreaded
 'view missed calls?'.   However, I think this is more related to the lack of
 an audible ring, rather than the problem I saw in OM2008.8 where by the time
 the phone woke up from suspend the call had gone to voice mail.   I was able
 to sucessfully answer an unexpected call this morning, which I don't think
 *ever* happened with OM2008.8

   - Battery life is *much* improved over OM2008.8 - I went more than 24
 hours without recharging and still had two bars of battery left.

 There are a few minor issues I've noticed:

   - the lack of an icon for the terminal in the apps list is annoying.
 Does QT Extended provide a 'run' capability, which would allow a user to
 directly enter an application to run?

   - 4.4.1 provided 3 different appearance themes - but 4.4.2 only provides
 1, and unfortunately it's not the one I preferred.

   - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from
 4.4.1.


 Even with the various annoyances and regressions, QT Extended is the
 closest I've seen so far to making my OM usable as a daily phone.

 I haven't seen the behaviour I saw once with OM2008.8 and once with 4.4.1
 where the phone gets into a strange state where it can no longer make or
 recieve calls - we'll see if I bump into that one eventually or not...

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Pander
Warren Baird wrote:
 Well, I've been running QtE for a bit over a week now, and I wanted to
 give kudos to Lorn and the QT team for making the FR something close to
 a usable phone... It's not perfect yet- I'm still using the original
 images, so I don't have bluetooth working, and there are a few other
 gaps, but at least I haven't missed any calls due to slow responsiveness.  
 
 I've been rebooting the phone every day or two, and perhaps that's why I
 haven't yet seen the strange instablities I was seeing earlier with FDOM
 and QtE 4.4.1 - but the basic phone functionality has been pretty
 reliable - I used the phone on a short business trip, and aside from
 having to reboot to get out of 'airplane' mode, it worked well.
 
 QtE also has *way* better battery life than anything else I've tried - I
 can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone.

really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2
with mwester's kernel.

 
 For the first time, I'm starting to feel like I can use my FR as a phone.
 
 Of course, I haven't had time to install any interesting software on the
 phone, get wifi or gprs working, get the gps working, or anything like
 that, so things may get more interesting at that point - but I've gone
 more than a week without feeling the need to put my Sim back in my old
 cell phone.
 
 Warren
 
 
 
 On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Warren Baird [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I've been trying out QT Extended 4.4.2 for a few days now, and I
 thought I'd share my observations so far:
 
   - Stability seems better than I originally thought - After my one
 experience seeing it not wake up from suspend on a call, I haven't
 noticed any other issues - I've received a fair number of calls and
 sms's, and the phone has always woken up.
 
   - The biggest issue for me atm is that I don't get an audible ring
 tone for either calls or sms messages - This is a regression since
 QtE 4.4.1 - any suggestions on how to resolve it would be very welcome.
 
   - I've missed one un-expected phone call because by the time I
 noticed the vibration and got the phone out of my pocket, all I saw
 was the dreaded 'view missed calls?'.   However, I think this is
 more related to the lack of an audible ring, rather than the problem
 I saw in OM2008.8 where by the time the phone woke up from suspend
 the call had gone to voice mail.   I was able to sucessfully answer
 an unexpected call this morning, which I don't think *ever* happened
 with OM2008.8
 
   - Battery life is *much* improved over OM2008.8 - I went more than
 24 hours without recharging and still had two bars of battery left.
 
 There are a few minor issues I've noticed:
 
   - the lack of an icon for the terminal in the apps list is
 annoying.   Does QT Extended provide a 'run' capability, which would
 allow a user to directly enter an application to run?
 
   - 4.4.1 provided 3 different appearance themes - but 4.4.2 only
 provides 1, and unfortunately it's not the one I preferred.
 
   - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a
 regression from 4.4.1. http://4.4.1.   
 
 
 Even with the various annoyances and regressions, QT Extended is the
 closest I've seen so far to making my OM usable as a daily phone.  
 
 I haven't seen the behaviour I saw once with OM2008.8 and once with
 4.4.1 where the phone gets into a strange state where it can no
 longer make or recieve calls - we'll see if I bump into that one
 eventually or not...
 
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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Warren Baird
Yup - I charged overnight the night before last, unplugged about 8am
yesterday, and at about 3pm today apm is reporting the battery at 50%.

The only thing I tweaked was to set the phone to suspend after 40s.   I was
originally afraid this would break receiving messages and sms's, but it
seems to have caused no issues...

Warren


On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 2:45 PM, Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

 really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2
 with mwester's kernel.


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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Kishore
On Wednesday 12 Nov 2008 1:15:35 am Pander wrote:
  QtE also has way better battery life than anything else I've tried - I
  can go 36 hours or more without having to plug in the phone.

 really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2
 with mwester's kernel.

Be doubly sure that wifi is not enabled. If ever once enabled, you need to 
reboot or wifi never really goes off even if the GUI says so. With wifi on I 
get 
about 5-6 hrs but otherwise I echo Warren's experience. Battery comfortably 
last over 48 hrs.
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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-11 Thread Chris Samuel

- Pander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 really, mine is out of power in about 8 hours :( but I'm using 4.4.2
 with mwester's kernel.

I'm using the same but it's working fine for battery
life as a phone for me, I can run it for probably about
36 hours without needing to charge it (though having
read the comments about Li batteries I might charge it
overnight as a matter of principle now).

In the power management I've set the brightness to about
half, dim after 10 seconds, display off after 20 seconds
and suspend after 30 seconds.

Not had issues with it coming out of suspend (yet).

Not tried to use Wifi with it.

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-08 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 11:40:15 pm Tha_Man wrote:

 According to Lorn Potter, it does. And as you wrote earlier in this thread,
 it only appears to send these commands with outgoing calls, since incoming
 calls still have the echo (and the phone set to handsfree/speaker instead
 of handset).

Yup, just seen that in the QT Extended sources in:

  devices/neo/src/plugins/phonevendors/neo/vendor_neo.cpp

Looking at the code in that file I'm wondering if a better place to put the
command to set the echo suppression is in NeoSimInfo::requestIdentity()
as that seems to be called occasionally to get the SIM info.

Alternatively it could go into the NeoCallProvider::cpiNotification() code 
after it calls hangupRemote() to set it ready for the next call and make sure 
it gets set in NeoModemService::initialize() ready for the first use.

The reason I say that is because the original patch put this into the QTE 
libraries rather than in the Neo specific code.

 I'm curious about the alsa-settings that were posted by Kishore, what do
 they exactly fix? As I understand it would fix incoming calls being set to
 speaker (instead of handset), right?

Apparently so, as well as reducing the maximum volume on the handset.

Thing is looking at the diff of the original and fixed versions I can't see how 
it fixes it to use the handset rather than the speakerphone!

--- gsmhandset.state.orig   Wed Sep  3 10:14:56 2008
+++ gsmhandset.stateFri Nov  7 06:55:33 2008
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
-   value.0 120
-   value.1 120
+   value.0 100
+   value.1 100
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Playback Volume'
-   value 103
+   value 85
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
@@ -456,7 +456,7 @@
comment.range '0 - 3'
iface MIXER
name 'Mic2 Capture Volume'
-   value 0
+   value 1
}
control.49 {
comment.access 'read write'


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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-07 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 7:19:05 am Chris Samuel wrote:

 On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote:

  As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;)

 Thanks for that, I'll play with it today.

Works rather nicely, thanks!

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2 / found problems

2008-11-07 Thread Bastian Muck
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I have to add a problem i encountered.
* I got a call from an no saved number which I wanted to save. When a
klick on save to contact the dialoge is shown if i want to create a
new contact. The yes-option seems not to work. The no-option does
only work if I press the AUX-button to quit the dialoge.

* To the problem with the incoming calls: The Speakerphone-mode is
used not everytime. Luckily you can switch to Handset-mode with the
options-dialoge.

* Indeed the speakervolume could be a bit louder. But I think I will
handle this by changing the statefile.

Greetings Bastian

Marcel Meyer schrieb:
 Hi list,

 (sorry, if the information in this mail comes doubled - I sent it first
 using a wrong sender email address. In case it is unlocked by some admin:
 apologies :-) )

 I'd like to use this thread to add some problems I found so far. I won't
 repeat the ones I encountered which were already reported by others.


 But let me start with some plaudit (and here I allow myself to repeat the
 positive statements from others)!

 * The battery life is sooo much better. Standby for almost 2 days is now
 possible. That looks like the right way to go!

 * GPRS is now (most of the time ;-) ) working! I can - albeit slow - now
 surf on my Freerunner.

 * Sending SMS and calling seems to work. (Problems mentioned by other
apply
 to me too (Echo, no ring tone, etc.) )


 So thank you Trolls! (Always complaining without saying thank you is not
 very diplomatic, I think, right? *g* )



 Now, let me outline my new problems.


 * I'm not sure, if it was mentioned somewhere on the list. Just for
 completeness: the echo-problem applies to me. The other end hears its own
 voice.


 * QtExtended (using the mw-kernel incl. modules) insists that I do not
have
 a SIM card... System Info, the application SIM applications and even
 the settings when I try to change my Call Options moan about a missing
 one. (I have an obviously working O2-3G-card from Germany.)

 When I choose a contact out of the dialer application, some kind of
text box
 pops up with the title Phone Number and the word No as single content.
 Only a non-functional Cancel in the button bar. The dialer then hangs, I
 can't do anything more in it. Pressing the AUX button brings me back to
the
 home screen and the dialer app crashes (?) so I can restart.

 Dialing manually works! Also choosing a contact wihtin the address book
and
 then selecting Call is a way to call out. At least it should be pulled
 through! (I'm happy that it isn't in this case.) ;-)


 * The most severe problem is not sth. as easily reproducible. I
switched on
 my GPRS yesterday evening and choose Always On and No Timeout to
let it
 be online over night. I want to have some XMPP-client to be always online
 on the phone some day.

 When starting the browser this morning, I switched with the AUX button to
 look after some notes I added into the notes application. The browser
 seemed to kill itself (which looks like the default reaction of
 applications when I press AUX :-p ).

 Now, the browser doesn't want to start anymore. It always complains about
 some internal error and closes itself (well, perhaps this is just a
 QtE-dialog telling me the called app segfaulted? Dunno). So I wanted to
 reboot to cleanse the memory.

 The problem now is that QtE behaves strange. The battery indicator is
 showing that the battery is beeing loaded. Which it isn't of course. And
 despite the homescreen there is a text box overlayed with the instruction
 to enter my PIN and unlock it. The Unlock button is visible but
 non-functional. But that's it. There is _no_ input widget to enter my pin.
 Just the homescreen with the overlayed text box. Nothing reacts to any
 input despite pressing the power button for 8+ seconds. (Taking out the
 battery and waiting a few seconds didn't change anything.)

 I can still ssh into the FR in this state if I connect the USB cable.
CPU is
 bored (load under 0.1) so at least there is nothing running amok.



 Phew, sorry for that long post. But I hope the long descriptions make it
 easier to understand what I want to describe in my clumsy english. ;-)

 Have a nice day,
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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-07 Thread Tha_Man


Chris Samuel wrote:
 
 [...]
 Does QT 4.4.2 not use the AT command that was recently discovered to
 activate 
 the echo canceller / noise reduction feature of calypso ?
 
 cheers,
 Chris
 -- 
 
According to Lorn Potter, it does. And as you wrote earlier in this thread,
it only appears to send these commands with outgoing calls, since incoming
calls still have the echo (and the phone set to handsfree/speaker instead of
handset).

I'm curious about the alsa-settings that were posted by Kishore, what do
they exactly fix? As I understand it would fix incoming calls being set to
speaker (instead of handset), right?

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Kishore
On Thursday 06 Nov 2008 5:19:21 pm Chris Samuel wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 10:10:52 pm Chris Samuel wrote:
  In fact *incoming* calls sound like they're using the external speaker by
  default (and hence get lots of feedback), in contrast to outgoing ones
  that sound just great.

 I've just tested that and it is indeed the case.

 When I get an incoming call the phone is set to speaker phone not handset!

 I'm going to try the new image with the ringtones on it in case that makes
 any difference..

I use the rootfs image posted by Hypnotize along with the mwester kernel (and 
modules).

I use the gsmhandset.state file that was posted here some time ago. With this 
combination, I have a usable phone and calls are taken with the handset and 
not speaker (as used to be the case with the 4.4.1 release).
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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:10:05 pm Kishore wrote:

 I use the gsmhandset.state file that was posted here some time ago. With
 this combination, I have a usable phone and calls are taken with the
 handset and not speaker (as used to be the case with the 4.4.1 release).

I ran into the same issue with the newer image so I'll have to go dig through 
the archives to find that (only been on this list a short time, though I've had 
the phone since September), thanks for the pointer!

Anyone have a link handy ?

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2 / found problems

2008-11-06 Thread Marcel Meyer
Hi list,

(sorry, if the information in this mail comes doubled - I sent it first 
using a wrong sender email address. In case it is unlocked by some admin: 
apologies :-) )

I'd like to use this thread to add some problems I found so far. I won't 
repeat the ones I encountered which were already reported by others.


But let me start with some plaudit (and here I allow myself to repeat the 
positive statements from others)!

* The battery life is sooo much better. Standby for almost 2 days is now 
possible. That looks like the right way to go!

* GPRS is now (most of the time ;-) ) working! I can - albeit slow - now 
surf on my Freerunner.

* Sending SMS and calling seems to work. (Problems mentioned by other apply 
to me too (Echo, no ring tone, etc.) )


So thank you Trolls! (Always complaining without saying thank you is not 
very diplomatic, I think, right? *g* )



Now, let me outline my new problems.


* I'm not sure, if it was mentioned somewhere on the list. Just for 
completeness: the echo-problem applies to me. The other end hears its own 
voice.


* QtExtended (using the mw-kernel incl. modules) insists that I do not have 
a SIM card... System Info, the application SIM applications and even 
the settings when I try to change my Call Options moan about a missing 
one. (I have an obviously working O2-3G-card from Germany.)

When I choose a contact out of the dialer application, some kind of text box 
pops up with the title Phone Number and the word No as single content. 
Only a non-functional Cancel in the button bar. The dialer then hangs, I 
can't do anything more in it. Pressing the AUX button brings me back to the 
home screen and the dialer app crashes (?) so I can restart.

Dialing manually works! Also choosing a contact wihtin the address book and 
then selecting Call is a way to call out. At least it should be pulled 
through! (I'm happy that it isn't in this case.) ;-)


* The most severe problem is not sth. as easily reproducible. I switched on 
my GPRS yesterday evening and choose Always On and No Timeout to let it 
be online over night. I want to have some XMPP-client to be always online 
on the phone some day.

When starting the browser this morning, I switched with the AUX button to 
look after some notes I added into the notes application. The browser 
seemed to kill itself (which looks like the default reaction of 
applications when I press AUX :-p ).

Now, the browser doesn't want to start anymore. It always complains about 
some internal error and closes itself (well, perhaps this is just a 
QtE-dialog telling me the called app segfaulted? Dunno). So I wanted to 
reboot to cleanse the memory.

The problem now is that QtE behaves strange. The battery indicator is 
showing that the battery is beeing loaded. Which it isn't of course. And 
despite the homescreen there is a text box overlayed with the instruction 
to enter my PIN and unlock it. The Unlock button is visible but 
non-functional. But that's it. There is _no_ input widget to enter my pin. 
Just the homescreen with the overlayed text box. Nothing reacts to any 
input despite pressing the power button for 8+ seconds. (Taking out the 
battery and waiting a few seconds didn't change anything.)

I can still ssh into the FR in this state if I connect the USB cable. CPU is 
bored (load under 0.1) so at least there is nothing running amok.



Phew, sorry for that long post. But I hope the long descriptions make it 
easier to understand what I want to describe in my clumsy english. ;-)

Have a nice day,
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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 6:40:04 am Warren Baird wrote:

   - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from
 4.4.1.   

Hmm, that seemed to work happily for me, there was quite a noticeble difference 
between the two modes.

In fact *incoming* calls sound like they're using the external speaker by 
default (and hence get lots of feedback), in contrast to outgoing ones that 
sound just great.

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Kishore
On Thursday 06 Nov 2008 5:56:58 pm Chris Samuel wrote:
 On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:10:05 pm Kishore wrote:
  I use the gsmhandset.state file that was posted here some time ago. With
  this combination, I have a usable phone and calls are taken with the
  handset and not speaker (as used to be the case with the 4.4.1 release).

 I ran into the same issue with the newer image so I'll have to go dig
 through the archives to find that (only been on this list a short time,
 though I've had the phone since September), thanks for the pointer!

 Anyone have a link handy ?

I am attaching it here. The only issue i have with it is that the volume is 
sometimes too low for me hear the other person clear but is fine when in a 
quite environment. I really wish the call handling application (what is it 
called?) had a volume adjustment in the UI for use while during a call.
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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Kishore
On Thursday 06 Nov 2008 8:52:14 pm Kishore wrote:
 On Thursday 06 Nov 2008 5:56:58 pm Chris Samuel wrote:
  On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:10:05 pm Kishore wrote:
   I use the gsmhandset.state file that was posted here some time ago.
   With this combination, I have a usable phone and calls are taken with
   the handset and not speaker (as used to be the case with the 4.4.1
   release).
 
  I ran into the same issue with the newer image so I'll have to go dig
  through the archives to find that (only been on this list a short time,
  though I've had the phone since September), thanks for the pointer!
 
  Anyone have a link handy ?

 I am attaching it here. The only issue i have with it is that the volume is
 sometimes too low for me hear the other person clear but is fine when in a
 quite environment. I really wish the call handling application (what is it
 called?) had a volume adjustment in the UI for use while during a call.

As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;)
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Kishore
state.neo1973gta02 {
control.1 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'PCM Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.2 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 255'
iface MIXER
name 'ADC Capture Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.3 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.4 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback Volume'
value.0 100
value.1 100
}
control.5 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 127'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Playback Volume'
value 85 
}
control.6 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Bypass Playback Volume'
value.0 7
value.1 7
}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Sidetone Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.8 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 2
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Voice Playback Volume'
value.0 0
value.1 0
}
control.9 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Headphone Playback ZC Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.10 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 2
iface MIXER
name 'Speaker Playback ZC Switch'
value.0 false
value.1 false
}
control.11 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Bypass Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.12 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Sidetone Playback Volume'
value 5
}
control.13 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type INTEGER
comment.count 1
comment.range '0 - 7'
iface MIXER
name 'Mono Voice Playback Volume'
value 0
}
control.14 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN

Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-06 Thread Chris Samuel
On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 2:23:03 am Kishore wrote:

 As is a classic case, I missed the attachment! ;)

Thanks for that, I'll play with it today.

Does QT 4.4.2 not use the AT command that was recently discovered to activate 
the echo canceller / noise reduction feature of calypso ?

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RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-05 Thread jurg van Vliet

hi roland,


Roland Kossel wrote:
 
 With speakerphone mode didn't work  - do you mean the acoustic feedback?
 I
 found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I
 compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo
 bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls.
 

freerunner with qt extended serves as my daily phone as well. can you share
your 'compiled library' and some instruction? i would be very happy to have
sound improved properly.

thanks,
jurg.
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RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-05 Thread Tha_Man


jurg van Vliet wrote:
 
 hi roland,
 
 
 Roland Kossel wrote:
 
 With speakerphone mode didn't work  - do you mean the acoustic
 feedback? I
 found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I
 compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo
 bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls.
 
 
 freerunner with qt extended serves as my daily phone as well. can you
 share your 'compiled library' and some instruction? i would be very happy
 to have sound improved properly.
 
 thanks,
 jurg.
 
I believe there are (a lot!) more people interested in this, or at least I
think the sound bugs (mainly echo issue) are one of the most annoying bugs
in the 4.4.2 release (actually in any release in any distro). So please
share your solution! I will be very thankful :)

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[QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-04 Thread Warren Baird
I've been trying out QT Extended 4.4.2 for a few days now, and I thought I'd
share my observations so far:

  - Stability seems better than I originally thought - After my one
experience seeing it not wake up from suspend on a call, I haven't noticed
any other issues - I've received a fair number of calls and sms's, and the
phone has always woken up.

  - The biggest issue for me atm is that I don't get an audible ring tone
for either calls or sms messages - This is a regression since QtE 4.4.1 -
any suggestions on how to resolve it would be very welcome.

  - I've missed one un-expected phone call because by the time I noticed the
vibration and got the phone out of my pocket, all I saw was the dreaded
'view missed calls?'.   However, I think this is more related to the lack of
an audible ring, rather than the problem I saw in OM2008.8 where by the time
the phone woke up from suspend the call had gone to voice mail.   I was able
to sucessfully answer an unexpected call this morning, which I don't think
*ever* happened with OM2008.8

  - Battery life is *much* improved over OM2008.8 - I went more than 24
hours without recharging and still had two bars of battery left.

There are a few minor issues I've noticed:

  - the lack of an icon for the terminal in the apps list is annoying.
Does QT Extended provide a 'run' capability, which would allow a user to
directly enter an application to run?

  - 4.4.1 provided 3 different appearance themes - but 4.4.2 only provides
1, and unfortunately it's not the one I preferred.

  - speakerphone mode didn't work - I think this is also a regression from
4.4.1.


Even with the various annoyances and regressions, QT Extended is the closest
I've seen so far to making my OM usable as a daily phone.

I haven't seen the behaviour I saw once with OM2008.8 and once with 4.4.1
where the phone gets into a strange state where it can no longer make or
recieve calls - we'll see if I bump into that one eventually or not...

Warren
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RE: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-04 Thread Roland Kossel
Hello Warren,

 

I also have the problem with the missing ring-tones. Just choose one you
copied to the file-system. It seems as if the builtin tones are just not
found/included.

 

I haven't quite understood one point - does your phone wake up from suspend
when you get a call? For some people (sounds like everybody) the resume is
working - but not for me.

 

With speakerphone mode didn't work  - do you mean the acoustic feedback? I
found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I
compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo
bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls.

 

 

Since I don't want to switch phones all the time, I am using the Freerunner
with Qtextended 4.4.2 in daily use. I'm still looking how to fix some
annoying stuff, but am already very happy with the system.

 

Roland 

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Re: [QT Extended] Observersation on QtE 4.4.2

2008-11-04 Thread Warren Baird
Hi Roland,

Thanks for the tip - I've copied a few .wav files onto my FR, and now I do
get ring tones!  That's very useful.

For suspend - yes, I configured my phone to go into suspend mode when on
battery, and it does wake up properly when I get a call or an sms.

for speakerphone - I mean that if I turn on the speakerphone option while on
a call, it doesn't change anything - the sound still comes through the
earpiece, not through the speakers.

Warren


On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Roland Kossel [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:

  Hello Warren,



 I also have the problem with the missing ring-tones. Just choose one you
 copied to the file-system. It seems as if the builtin tones are just not
 found/included.



 I haven't quite understood one point – does your phone wake up from suspend
 when you get a call? For some people (sounds like everybody) the resume is
 working – but not for me.



 With speakerphone mode didn't work  - do you mean the acoustic feedback?
 I found an AT-command which has to be sent at the beginning of each call. I
 compiled a library including this command and the one that fixes the echo
 bug and now I don't have any sound problems during calls.





 Since I don't want to switch phones all the time, I am using the Freerunner
 with Qtextended 4.4.2 in daily use. I'm still looking how to fix some
 annoying stuff, but am already very happy with the system.



 Roland

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