Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
On Saturday 07 February 2009 21:25:05 Steffen Winkler wrote: german is a bad(?) language...english is much better (easier to learn, better gramma and so on) Damn, there goes the coffee all over my keyboard again :-D Even as a native, english english speaker I can see english isn't the simplest language to learn - I'm trying to teach my 3 yr old to read at the moment which is an excellent way of discovering just how inconsistent spelling and pronounciation is in english. I guess getting invaded every 2-300 years until 900 odd years ago, coupled with the royal family swanning about between germany, france and spain ever since then is a great way of muddling up a language :-) I do like 's for possessive though - whoever brought that one to our shores was a genius :-) Kudos to those non-natives on the list that write so well! FWIW, I twigged akku as accumulator becuase that was the word used for capacitors in the 1960's radio ham mags that my father had :-) Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 20:16 +0100 schrieb arne anka: well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning. Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for rechargeable batteries. Heheh that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ... abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web *scnr* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
On Saturday 07 February 2009 21:25:05 Steffen Winkler wrote: german is a bad(?) language...english is much better (easier to learn, better gramma and so on) Damn, there goes the coffee all over my keyboard again :-D Even as a native, english english speaker I can see english isn't the simplest language to learn well, at least it's easier to learn bad english than bad german :-) - I'm trying to teach my 3 yr old to read at the moment which is an excellent way of discovering just how inconsistent spelling and pronounciation is in english. oh, knowing a few languages myself i safely can say, it is not a specific english problem -- others have it as well. and german being spoken and developed in an area where most of europe's tribes once went back and forth over the last 2000 years and continue to do, is in no way different -- only, here the inconsistent spelling is believed to be part of the national identity and needs to be protected by law ... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Am Saturday 07 February 2009 19:54:41 schrieb Steffen Winkler: nope...status of the akku is 54% charging in the powermanager...and that is correct (the neo akku was nearly empty when I connected it to my wallcharger and that is just 6 or 7 minutes ago) and it turend blue ca. 2 minutes after I connected it. A bug slipped in battery handling, which sends bogus 'full' event once the charger is online. It's fixed in HEAD. -- :M: ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Hi, I just wanted to know, why the powerbutton (right side) is sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading per USB? With the wallcharger it's the same. Sometimes red and sometimes blue. Is it a bug? Or does it show if the neo is loading with more power than normal? signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Red (orange) means it's charging, blue means it's fully charged. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Red (orange) means it's charging, blue means it's fully charged. and since eg gsm draws power directly from the battery, after a while charging is triggered again -- thus the led switches to orange again. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
nope...status of the akku is 54% charging in the powermanager...and that is correct (the neo akku was nearly empty when I connected it to my wallcharger and that is just 6 or 7 minutes ago) and it turend blue ca. 2 minutes after I connected it. Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 12:43 -0600 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Red (orange) means it's charging, blue means it's fully charged. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
and sorry about my signature, I've some problems with it...from my laptop it works but not from my pc...have to search the difference :/ Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 19:54 +0100 schrieb Steffen Winkler: nope...status of the akku is 54% charging in the powermanager...and that is correct (the neo akku was nearly empty when I connected it to my wallcharger and that is just 6 or 7 minutes ago) and it turend blue ca. 2 minutes after I connected it. Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 12:43 -0600 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Red (orange) means it's charging, blue means it's fully charged. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 19:54, Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: nope...status of the akku is 54% charging in the powermanager...and that is correct (the neo akku was nearly empty when I connected it to my wallcharger and that is just 6 or 7 minutes ago) and it turend blue ca. 2 minutes after I connected it. Some very new commit for frameworkd fixes it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Sorry, but what is 'akku'? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
ah, okay...thanks for info Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 19:58 +0100 schrieb Johny Tenfinger: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 19:54, Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: nope...status of the akku is 54% charging in the powermanager...and that is correct (the neo akku was nearly empty when I connected it to my wallcharger and that is just 6 or 7 minutes ago) and it turend blue ca. 2 minutes after I connected it. Some very new commit for frameworkd fixes it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
oh, sorry...thought that it is the same in english. It means rechargeable battery Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 13:00 -0600 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Sorry, but what is 'akku'? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for rechargeable batteries. Heheh IDK about yours, but the power light works just fine on my SHR, but I use SHR testing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning. Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for rechargeable batteries. Heheh that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ... abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web *scnr* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
On Saturday 07 February 2009, arne anka wrote: well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning. It does exist, but is rarely used. 50 to 100 years ago it was more common. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Am Saturday 07 February 2009 20:16:56 schrieb arne anka: well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning. Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for rechargeable batteries. Heheh that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ... abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web *scnr* But we just imported that abbreviation from English. Like many other words... -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Ahh, well, I've never heard accumulator associated with batteries. It's generally an umbrella term for anything that collects something (which makes sense, in an rechargeable battery) -- or else a register in a CPU. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Am Saturday 07 February 2009 20:25:51 schrieb Al Johnson: On Saturday 07 February 2009, arne anka wrote: well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning. It does exist, but is rarely used. 50 to 100 years ago it was more common. So you english-speaking people, do you always say rechargeable battery when meaning an accumulator (for electrons *g*)? Isn't there any abbreviation? -- Marcel ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
Well, we don't call them accumulators here. The correct name would be rechargeable battery, but generally we would just say 'battery' and let context take care of the rest. Aside from that, if anyone else knows an abbreviation, I'd love to hear it. :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ... abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web *scnr* But we just imported that abbreviation from English. Like many other words... my reply was aimed at the digital pioneer, which (maybe too rash) considered to be an english native speaker. of course that remark makes more sense in english or swedisch then in eg german. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
No, I'm a native english speaker. Born and raised in America. :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
german is a bad(?) language...english is much better (easier to learn, better gramma and so on) Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 20:16 +0100 schrieb arne anka: well, it's short for akkumulator -- replace kk with cc and, according to my dictionary, it is part of english too -- with the same meaning. Ahh, no, I guess we don't have any handy four-letter word for rechargeable batteries. Heheh that's the beauty of german :-) we don't even have such nice ... abbreviations ... like WWW as opposed to the much longer World Wide Web *scnr* ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
No, I'm a native english speaker. Born and raised in America. :) isn't that an oxymoron? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
What, with all the invading illegal aliens? Yeah, it's getting to be, but not yet. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] Why is the Powerbutton sometimes red and sometimes blue while loading
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Steffen Winkler steffen.li...@gmx.de wrote: oh, sorry...thought that it is the same in english. It means rechargeable battery Am Samstag, den 07.02.2009, 13:00 -0600 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: Sorry, but what is 'akku'? It meant the same in English when I was a schoolchild (in Australia) for a car battery, then the only rechargeable kind? but have not heard it used for more years than I will admit. clare ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community