Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:10 PM, KaZeR wrote: > That's what i did a few hours ago :) > What about next updates? If new packages are available, do you recommend to > flash or upgrade? I recommend to update/upgrade, and reflash if you witness anormal behavior. Though when you're supposed to reflash, I usually say so on the ML, and I'll say so on the SHR blog from now on. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
Julien Cassignol a écrit : On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:07 PM, KaZeR wrote: In fact there was an hidden question :) Do you recommend currently to flash or to opkg upgrade to avoid breakage? I do understand that things may break. No problem. Just trying to reduce the odds ;) Not knowing which revision you're using, at which state and such, I'd recommend to reflash. That's what i did a few hours ago :) What about next updates? If new packages are available, do you recommend to flash or upgrade? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 1:07 PM, KaZeR wrote: > In fact there was an hidden question :) > Do you recommend currently to flash or to opkg upgrade to avoid breakage? > > I do understand that things may break. No problem. Just trying to reduce the > odds ;) Not knowing which revision you're using, at which state and such, I'd recommend to reflash. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
Julien Cassignol a écrit : I was using a jffs from 3 or 4 days ago, only the opkg upgrade from this morning broke some things (i didn't reflash yet). And breakage is part of development, so, it just happens :) Well, as I said before, it may happen that an opkg upgrade will break things. We can't, at this point of our development, plan an update path for every little update. This is time consuming, and, even more disturbing, we don't have enough devices to test that anyway :-) In fact there was an hidden question :) Do you recommend currently to flash or to opkg upgrade to avoid breakage? I do understand that things may break. No problem. Just trying to reduce the odds ;) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:08 PM, KaZeR wrote: > First of all, i didn't meant to be rude : when i said that SHR is my current > favorite distro, i mean it. I didn't think you were rude :-) > I was using a jffs from 3 or 4 days ago, only the opkg upgrade from this > morning broke some things (i didn't reflash yet). > And breakage is part of development, so, it just happens :) Well, as I said before, it may happen that an opkg upgrade will break things. We can't, at this point of our development, plan an update path for every little update. This is time consuming, and, even more disturbing, we don't have enough devices to test that anyway :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
> -Message d'origine- > De : community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org > [mailto:community-boun...@lists.openmoko.org] De la part de > Julien Cassignol > Envoyé : lundi 15 décembre 2008 22:26 > À : List for Openmoko community discussion > Objet : Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update > > On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, KaZeR wrote: > > > Julien, please let us now when your images are more > stable.. SHR is my > > current favorite distro :) > > Please know that I test images on a daily basis, and that I > can't prevent users from downloading borked images in the > time between which I generate them then download them (I > mostly download them when I'm not at home, so I can't > generate them on my home computer), so it may result in an > unstable image. If you see an image timestamped from 2 > minutes ago, it's usually not a good idea to download it. > > If an image isn't working properly, I'm used to delete it afterwards. > > But just so you know, I personally have no issue with a > recent reflash, both on windows and linux. So it's either > coincidental, or resulting in an unsupported upgrade, or > systematic and I'd like to see logs :-) > First of all, i didn't meant to be rude : when i said that SHR is my current favorite distro, i mean it. I was using a jffs from 3 or 4 days ago, only the opkg upgrade from this morning broke some things (i didn't reflash yet). And breakage is part of development, so, it just happens :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 2:31 PM, KaZeR wrote: > Julien, please let us now when your images are more stable.. SHR is my > current favorite distro :) Please know that I test images on a daily basis, and that I can't prevent users from downloading borked images in the time between which I generate them then download them (I mostly download them when I'm not at home, so I can't generate them on my home computer), so it may result in an unstable image. If you see an image timestamped from 2 minutes ago, it's usually not a good idea to download it. If an image isn't working properly, I'm used to delete it afterwards. But just so you know, I personally have no issue with a recent reflash, both on windows and linux. So it's either coincidental, or resulting in an unsupported upgrade, or systematic and I'd like to see logs :-) -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
> -Message d'origine- > > Well, unfortunately, guys, we generate images at an insane > rate these days to test our (in fact MrMoku's) patches for > fastboot and such. We also changed a bunch of revisions, and > some package naming conventions, which were, sufficed to say, ugly. > > That's why these days, opkg update'ing wasn't a good solution :-). > > I'd suggest to reflash if this kind of problem surfaces > again. Don't worry, though, as soon as our unstable image > building process will be fine, we won't apply this stuff > directly on testing. > Well, so far i haven't seen any other issue excepted the network not auto starting (btw, thanks Yorick & Thomas). At first i thought it was related to the use of windows, cause i already had a few issues in the past (Reboot with android image or OM-testing+2.6.28 kernel). Julien, please let us now when your images are more stable.. SHR is my current favorite distro :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:45 PM, Thomas B wrote: > I think the reason for this issue is a change in the initscripts. I > fixed it by forcing an install of the package initscripts-shr as a > replacement for initscripts (opkg hadn't done that automatically, > because the difference in versioning made it look like a downgrade). Well, unfortunately, guys, we generate images at an insane rate these days to test our (in fact MrMoku's) patches for fastboot and such. We also changed a bunch of revisions, and some package naming conventions, which were, sufficed to say, ugly. That's why these days, opkg update'ing wasn't a good solution :-). I'd suggest to reflash if this kind of problem surfaces again. Don't worry, though, as soon as our unstable image building process will be fine, we won't apply this stuff directly on testing. -- Julien Cassignol http://www.ainulindale.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:41:01AM +0100, KaZeR wrote: > > Hi everyone. > > I ran opkg update && opkg upgrade this morning. I saw a new kernel was > installed, so i rebooted the phone. > After reboot, windows sees the usb device, but no link.. > I'm currently not at home, so i only have access to a windows computer. > Anything i could do to try to get back access to my FR? > Anyone else has the same issue? Yep, had the same issue. I noticed that networking wasn't started at boot anymore after an okpg upgrade. Try to open the terminal on the FR and do "ifup usb0" to bring up USB networking manually. I think the reason for this issue is a change in the initscripts. I fixed it by forcing an install of the package initscripts-shr as a replacement for initscripts (opkg hadn't done that automatically, because the difference in versioning made it look like a downgrade). HTH, Thomas ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 11:41 AM, KaZeR wrote: > I ran opkg update && opkg upgrade this morning. I saw a new kernel was > installed, so i rebooted the phone. > After reboot, windows sees the usb device, but no link.. > I'm currently not at home, so i only have access to a windows computer. > Anything i could do to try to get back access to my FR? yes, i had that problem; just type in a terminal app on your FR: ifconfig usb0 192.168.0.202 Ainulindale also said he fixed it and will generate a new image, but currently projects.openmoko.org seems to be down ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR] network link down on windows after opkg update
Hi everyone. I ran opkg update && opkg upgrade this morning. I saw a new kernel was installed, so i rebooted the phone. After reboot, windows sees the usb device, but no link.. I'm currently not at home, so i only have access to a windows computer. Anything i could do to try to get back access to my FR? Anyone else has the same issue? Thanks in advance. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
