Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-19 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'm not getting anything, except "+CRING: VOICE" which I assume is a call. Perhaps they do it some other way? I know it's getting done somehow, I just haven't the foggiest idea how. :P Telcos may not be the most cooperative creatures, but perhaps you could just ask one how they do it? You'd have t

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-19 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2009-04-18 at 13:55 +0200, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > On Saturday 18 April 2009 02:20:47 William Kenworthy wrote: > > Try screen - run "screen -L" and it will log anything in the window to > > file ("screenlog.0") - advantage also in that you can reattach and check > > whats happening

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-18 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Saturday 18 April 2009 02:20:47 William Kenworthy wrote: > Try screen - run "screen -L" and it will log anything in the window to > file ("screenlog.0") - advantage also in that you can reattach and check > whats happening as well. I presume there is no loading problems on > normal operation le

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Mike Montour
Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to > actually _query_ the time from the network. I don't know what method it uses but my Nokia 3500 phone gets the current time+date automatically (operator is Fido in Canada). I've tested this b

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
Install screen on your desktop so you can "man screen" ^ad (^ is the control key) detaches, leaving screen running screen -r reattaches ^ac creates a new window in screen ^a1, ^a2, ^a3 etc to switch between active windows Nice feature is you can also ssh in or use the local terminal and reattach a

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
OK, I ran the mickeyterm and put in AT%CTZV=1 and then closed the terminal. I assume that left the mickeyterm running...? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread William Kenworthy
Try screen - run "screen -L" and it will log anything in the window to file ("screenlog.0") - advantage also in that you can reattach and check whats happening as well. I presume there is no loading problems on normal operation leaving mickeyterm running? BillK On Fri, 2009-04-17 at 17:33 -050

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Evgeny
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 1:11 AM, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote: > AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to > actually _query_ the time from the network. It depends on the operator whether > it sends it to you or not. It also depends on the modem whether it can > unders

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
Meh, would `mickeyterm 2>&1 <<< "AT%CTVZ=1" | tee mickeyterm.out` work? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Marcel
Am Samstag, 18. April 2009 00:14:15 schrieb The Digital Pioneer: > I was wondering where 'unsolicited' fit into all this... OK, so how do I > log it without having it connected to my laptop all the time? :P Maybe some construction with mickeyterm in a screen session and modifying the python code

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I was wondering where 'unsolicited' fit into all this... OK, so how do I log it without having it connected to my laptop all the time? :P ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
AT%CTVZ=1 just enables the unsolicited result code. There is no way to actually _query_ the time from the network. It depends on the operator whether it sends it to you or not. It also depends on the modem whether it can understand the network time report or not. The unsolicited result code can

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I am in USA, on AT&T's 3G network (I think) and I never got a response either... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Marcel
Am Freitag, 17. April 2009 17:43:03 schrieb Michael 'Mickey' Lauer: > On Friday 17 April 2009 17:30:37 The Digital Pioneer wrote: > > Michael Lauer: Not entirely sure what that page is saying... Is it saying > > we don't know exactly how to get time from the network? > > Once someone sends me an un

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 17 April 2009 17:30:37 The Digital Pioneer wrote: > Michael Lauer: Not entirely sure what that page is saying... Is it saying > we don't know exactly how to get time from the network? Once someone sends me an unsolicited response code from a FreeRunner that shows that the network sent t

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I have no idea how, I just know that pretty much every phone in the USA syncs time from the network. They also change timezones automatically. Michael Lauer: Not entirely sure what that page is saying... Is it saying we don't know exactly how to get time from the network? _

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Michael 'Mickey' Lauer
On Friday 17 April 2009 17:03:51 The Digital Pioneer wrote: > ...Which makes the FR pretty much the only phone in the USA that doesn't > get its time from the network... I have not seeing you answering http://www.mail- archive.com/de...@lists.openmoko.org/msg02181.html ... __

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Maksim 'max_posedon' Melnikau
On Friday 17 April 2009 18:03:51 The Digital Pioneer wrote: > ...Which makes the FR pretty much the only phone in the USA that doesn't > get its time from the network... I thought get time from network is cdma feature. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. __

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread The Digital Pioneer
...Which makes the FR pretty much the only phone in the USA that doesn't get its time from the network... ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-17 Thread Christian Gagneraud
The Digital Pioneer wrote: > I'm not sure where it gets the zone from, but if someone knows a way to > sync from GSM without screwing up the TZ, I'd love to hear it. Hi, GSM can't be used as a time source, only as a zone source. That's what i understand when i look at otimed.py: http://git.fre

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-15 Thread The Digital Pioneer
I'm not sure where it gets the zone from, but if someone knows a way to sync from GSM without screwing up the TZ, I'd love to hear it. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-15 Thread ivvmm
The Digital Pioneer wrote: > You don't have to set timesources = NONE, but zonesources should. I > assume it still acquires the actual time whenever it can if timesources > has something in it... Perhaps not, though. > > > >

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-15 Thread The Digital Pioneer
You don't have to set timesources = NONE, but zonesources should. I assume it still acquires the actual time whenever it can if timesources has something in it... Perhaps not, though. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http:/

Re: [SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-15 Thread forin...@gmail.com
Hello You can add following lines to the /etc/frameworkd.conf file for manualy setting up your localtime: [otimed] timesources = NONE zonesources = NONE with this settings FR would not update timezone from GSM module. 2009/4/15 ivvmm > > This week in SHR was glad to see that editing /etc/timezo

[SHR] timezone broken again

2009-04-14 Thread ivvmm
This week in SHR was glad to see that editing /etc/timezone and copying from /usr/share/zoneinfo/smth to /etc/localtime did the trick --- changed from the London time to what one wanted to. But today I did an update/upgrade and it broke again. Now we get EEST timezone. Does anyone know how to fix