Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I've updated to the recent version of SHR unstable (opkg update/upgrade yesterday) and tried to pair with my car today.. (BMW Pro Radio) I followed the instructions from the Wiki [1] (not much to follow for SHR, it seems) and I got the MAC from the car.. used the simple-agent to pair.. my car asked me to enter a PIN for pairing.. then the FR asked me for it.. and once I entered that it's happy.. (trying a second time quits with message that there's already a bond with that device) Yes, it seems you used the correct instructions. You might want to remove the bonding before trying again, for that supply an additional dummy parameter to simple-agent. However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. Needless to say, pairing with my Nokia 6500C works like a charm.. :( It'd be interesting to try it with some laptop (running bluez4, of course). The Wiki [1] says that I should log with hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump but that command is not available on my FR... Hm, it should be, probably in some additional bluez package (but do not install bluez3!) -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: The Wiki [1] says that I should log with hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump but that command is not available on my FR... Hm, it should be, probably in some additional bluez package (but do not install bluez3!) Indeed - my bad... I should have checked that, sorry.. installing bluez-hcidump now.. (I sure hope it's not bluez3 dependent) I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Thank you.. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Counting in octal is just like counting in decimal, if you don't use your thumbs. - Tom Lehrer -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. That's somewhat discouraging.. but totally understandable.. I find anything wireless to be black magick.. :D Well, we'll make the most of it.. my worst case scenario would be that I'll keep using the Nokia until BT works as expected. Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Some people, when confronted with a problem, think I know, I'll use regular expressions. Now they have two problems. - Jamie Zawinski -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 13:08 +0400, Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Hm, that is strange. You need to try to remove the bonding and to try again. Probably you hit some timeout or something else went wrong. I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... BMW Pro Radio... I think we are not only talking about a headset. I guess we are talking about a handsfree car kit. I am also planning to pair my FR to my Mondeo, but did not try it yet, because I heard that Hands Free Profile is not fully supported yet. I planned to do something in this area but did not find the time yet. I will try pairing again later.. and provide a bt.dump.. :) Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. Hm, that sounds weird. Can you try to disable this functionality? What is written in your BMW manual wrt cellphone compatibility? -- Be free, use free (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) software! mailto:fercer...@gmail.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
On Thu, 2009-06-11 at 11:21 +0200, Thomas Franck wrote: Paul Fertser wrote: Thomas Franck thomas.fra...@gmx.com writes: I reckon that the radio is checking for capabilities and that the FR fails to meet the requirements.. could that be? (I've no idea about Bluetooth - totally on the user side there.. :)) Yes, could be something like that. But it'd be strange if headset checked device for capabilities... I came up with that thought because the radio also accesses the contacts on the phone and provides a list on the display. Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. That's somewhat discouraging.. but totally understandable.. I find anything wireless to be black magick.. :D Well, we'll make the most of it.. my worst case scenario would be that I'll keep using the Nokia until BT works as expected. I came so far that I found a project, http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html, which is not HFP (Hands Free Profile) but the server (if FR is the client). So my guess is, if I can get my FR to connect with this, it should also connect to my car. The advantage is, for testing that one can dumb and debug the whole BT-communication, because nohands also runs on Linux-machine. Cheers, ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Hm, that sounds weird. Can you try to disable this functionality? What is written in your BMW manual wrt cellphone compatibility? *g* They say I should ask the BMW Service about which phones are supported. I am dead sure that they never heard about the FR.. ;) With unsupported phones, errors may occur.. lol A somewhat unrelated note: even the T-Mobile guy from technical support rang me up and asked what an Openmoko FreeRunner was (I sent them a mail about GPRS connection details).. -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ It is impossible to sharpen a pencil with a blunt axe. It is equally vain to try to do it with ten blunt axes instead. - Edsgar W. Dijkstra -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Joerg Eesmann wrote: I came so far that I found a project, http://nohands.sourceforge.net/source.html, which is not HFP (Hands Free Profile) but the server (if FR is the client). So my guess is, if I can get my FR to connect with this, it should also connect to my car. The advantage is, for testing that one can dumb and debug the whole BT-communication, because nohands also runs on Linux-machine. Hmm... if my test later fails and provides no new information, it'll be worth a try.. ;) -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Has everyone noticed that all the letters of the word database are typed with the left hand? Now the layout of the QWERTYUIOP typewriter keyboard was designed, among other things, to facilitate the even use of both hands. It follows, therefore, that writing about databases is not only unnatural, but a lot harder than it appears. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Paul Fertser wrote: Good, but don't expect much, it seems that nobody in OM community actually has solid understanding of bluetooth :-/. Tried again.. as expected, no luck... however, I got the dump.. I started it before pairing.. and let it run and run after the FR was happy with pairing.. (I thought the radio may give up - but after 5 mins it still said pairing in progress...) Anyone interested can find the dump here (11k): http://www.digitalchaos.de/openmoko/bt.dump and the log here (6k): http://www.digitalchaos.de/openmoko/log.txt (yeah, I used the always handy 1234 pin.. lol) I actually thought the dump would be kinda readable.. can anyone read that?? Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Gray's Law of Programming N+1 trivial tasks are expected to be accomplished in the same time as N trivial tasks. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[SHR unstable] Bluetooth pairing with BMW Pro Radio car handsfree fails
Hi.. :) Sorry for repost, figured that Community is probably a better list than Support.. ;) I've updated to the recent version of SHR unstable (opkg update/upgrade yesterday) and tried to pair with my car today.. (BMW Pro Radio) I followed the instructions from the Wiki [1] (not much to follow for SHR, it seems) and I got the MAC from the car.. used the simple-agent to pair.. my car asked me to enter a PIN for pairing.. then the FR asked me for it.. and once I entered that it's happy.. (trying a second time quits with message that there's already a bond with that device) However.. my car kept trying to pair with the FR (display said something like Pairing in progress.. with the only option to abort.. :( Needless to say, pairing with my Nokia 6500C works like a charm.. :( The Wiki [1] says that I should log with hcidump -l 4096 -w bt.dump but that command is not available on my FR... Anyone any idea? Help is very appreciated - I wanna swap the Nokia for good.. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_Bluetooth#Once_Again.2C_Bluetooth_Headset_on_Freerunner Cheers, -- Thomas -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ Virtual means never knowing where your next byte is coming from. -~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~-~ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
