Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 8:44 PM, Bastian Muck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I had no problems with echo. But I can confirm the other issues. And one > is missing: I can't recieve SMS. Does anyone? I wrote one to myself and > a friend wrote one. after half an hour i turned neo off and put the card > in my old phone and this recieved both messages. > But now, i have another issue: somehow the theme changed. And at this > theme the buttons at the bottom don't appear. so I neither can change > nor do any other important things. > > I used FR with Qtextended as my one and only daily phone today, because I lost my Motorokr E6 the night before the last (using OM2008.8-update was an actual waking nightmare yesterday). I have been very happy with the results so far, but the problems I have found, confirming yours are: 1. Default volume too low: had to hand-edit gsmhandset.state, the volume control in settings > call settings did not do the trick 2. Using the headset during a call requires you to select speakerphone from the menu - audio is routed usually through one earphone, but for the mic, you have to use the FR's speaker-mic. Selecting headset does not work - Could this mean the settings in gsmheadset.state and gsmspeakerout.state have been interchanged? 3. Strong echo heard by most of the callers 4. Phone needs to be reminded of power management functions when plugged in - I have already saved the settings in (added to) my profile 5. Whenever a new SMS is received, the phone reports earlier messages as unread in the popup notification 6. Some messages are received twice 7. Somehow, the phone seems to create copies of messages in the inbox - I now have 159 messages in one day, when the total received was perhaps 16. Sent items shows the correct number 8. In GPRS settings, I can't modify the APN setting, so there is no way to figure out if it works. The wiki says here [1] that it should be specified in the chat file. However, I don't know if Qtextended uses the same functionality to connect to GPRS. There are no such files in /etc/ppp 9. I don't think networking through usb0 works correctly. I have specified my proxy in settings > internet > new > ethernet, also exported it as an environment variable under SSH, but no cigar. Ping to www.google.com or 208.67.222.222 doesn't seem to work. I am using Freeproxy as a bridge between my corporate lan on my laptop, and the FR 10. Due to 9 above, settings > software packages does not work. Neither does opkg, for much the same reason, although I believe nothing should be installed from the OM repositories 11. What about GPS? Both 8 and 9 mean there is no way to test how it works. Plus there are hardly any tried and tested routing / navigation applications available (roadmaps seems to be experimental, haven't tried it). We need something like TangoGPS or Navit 12. The qwerty keyboard is too tiny and a bit messy. The predictive keyboard seems to have done away with the right-to-left flick for backspace So there are twelve problems I can enumerate quickly, but they are not showstoppers. I believe most of these issues will be cleared up quickly. Battery life is much better than under any of the OMs, applications start up much faster and I haven't even tried fastload yet, and respond much faster too! All in all, FR with Qtextended (4.4.1) is the closest I have gotten to a phone, much better than the 2007.2 factory image, which was quite buggy, and of course, everyone's favourite 2008.x. [1] http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Manually_using_GPRS#gprs-connect-chat.2C_version_1 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
I had no problems with echo. But I can confirm the other issues. And one is missing: I can't recieve SMS. Does anyone? I wrote one to myself and a friend wrote one. after half an hour i turned neo off and put the card in my old phone and this recieved both messages. But now, i have another issue: somehow the theme changed. And at this theme the buttons at the bottom don't appear. so I neither can change nor do any other important things. Greetings Bastian gromez schrieb: > On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 >> Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > [...] > > >> - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there >> in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. >> > > Same problem. A solution for getting the right date is to use the date > command from ssh. > > >> - echo problem is back >> > > During a call, people notify me that they hear their own voice, so > echo problem is back. > > >> - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" >> > > I've tried alarm this morning and it worked fine. > > >> - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up >> as "missed" >> > > Similar problem with calls and text messages. Even if I read them it > seems they are never marked as read. > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
Hi, her are my results after a fresh flash with the latest uimage and rootfs from qt: On Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:16:45 +1000 Lorn Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using > > uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the > > previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? > > yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended. using the new uimage, these are gone > > - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there > > in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. > hmmm... > indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image. > > > - echo problem is back > > odd. using the new uimage, this still seems to be a problem > > - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" this also no longer happens. But the issue of the alarm not sounding on time after suspend still remains (the alarm is on time only once, after a fresh reboot, all subsequent alarms seem to drift off in time when the phone is suspended) > > - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show > > up as "missed" > > also odd. I haven't seen this. after a dialer crash and some reboots, this no longer is the case. But now, at the end of each call, the call-volume setting window pops up briefly, with the sound setting/noice. Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Fri, 03 Oct 2008, Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Tried the latest mwester stable kernel > > (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK > > except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR > > from USB. > > Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :) > > > > Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call? > That would be great for me! > Where did you get this kernel? Well I have no issues as far as echoes and duplicate missed calls. I'm using the kernel from the 4.3.2 release. I do hear a small "audio effect" (like loud static which does down - quite tonefully, I must add) whenever a call ends. I can live with the unintended call end indicator. Problems that I do have : * WiFi - connects and is usable, but makes the interface really slow after a while. Then causes freezes. I'm using WPA-PSK-TKIP btw. * The aux red LED keeps on glowing even after I disconnect the USB cable. I can get it to behave as expected by playing around with repeated inserts of the cable. One of those times, it behaves correctly. I wouldn't call it a fix or even a workaround though. It's more of a buggy bug. * Missing zoneinfos. I'll try the updated image today. I haven't tried setting up my GPRS yet. --gera. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> Tried the latest mwester stable kernel >> (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK >> except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR >> from USB. >> Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :) > > Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call? > That would be great for me! Well, these problems are not kernel related so there are still present :( > Where did you get this kernel? Here: http://qtextended.org/modules/mydownloads/visit.php?lid=91 > Franky > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Tried the latest mwester stable kernel >> (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK >> except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR >> from USB. >> Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :) >> > > Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call? > That would be great for me! > Where did you get this kernel? > never mind, I found the kernel :-) But are the mentioned issues really resolved? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 10:00 AM, gromez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tried the latest mwester stable kernel > (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK > except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR > from USB. > Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :) > Everything fine? So no echo issues, no missed call for every received call? That would be great for me! Where did you get this kernel? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
Tried the latest mwester stable kernel (uImage-gta02-g78199ea0_mwester-stable.bin) and everything is OK except the battery gauge which is always empty when I unplug the FR from USB. Even my Sandisk 8GB microSD works fine :) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Friday 03 Oct 2008 11:29:39 am Lorn Potter wrote: > Kishore wrote: > > On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote: > >> Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > >>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 > >>> > >>> Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if > you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. > > unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what it's > called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an > accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. > >>> > >>> hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too > >>> many bugs (old and new): > >>> > >>> - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using > >>> uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the > >>> previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? > >> > >> yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended. > > > > I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like > > there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but > > then it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow. > > thats because I removed that, but some script is still trying to use it. > It's harmless OK. Harmless but still looks bad but no issue really. > >>> - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there > >>> in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. > >> > >> hmmm... > >> indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image. > > > > I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i > > just spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc. > > (My previous motoming phone does not have an export all feature) > > ok. I will put up a ipkg of the needed zoneinfo files. Thanks! > >>> - echo problem is back > >> > >> odd. I put in a SIM to test. Neither I nor the other side experience any echo. > >>> - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" > >>> - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up > >>> as "missed" > >> > >> also odd. I haven't seen this. When i answer a call it does register the same call as a missed call too. I have another issue where if the call was from an unknown contact and i wish to add to my contacts list, it would ask me if i want to create a new contact and there touch screen does not respond to my input on either of "yes" or "no" or elsewhere. I have to press the AUX button to recover. Also when i choose to delete data from the call history, it okays my input but does not delete the entry. > >>> The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I > >>> thought it was going to be 4.4.3? > >> > >> Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug > >> fixes. > > > > I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well > > it manages calls. > > > > Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does > > that mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find > > one application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate. > > We have not done anything with motion sensors yet. So it is not automatic > rotation on the Neo. OK, Is there an API that one can use to write a small script daemon? -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
Kishore wrote: > On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote: >> Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: >>> On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 >>> >>> Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what it's called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. >>> hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too >>> many bugs (old and new): >>> >>> - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using >>> uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the >>> previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? >> yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended. > > I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like > there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but then > it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow. thats because I removed that, but some script is still trying to use it. It's harmless > >>> - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there >>> in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. >> hmmm... >> indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image. > > I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i just > spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc. (My > previous > motoming phone does not have an export all feature) ok. I will put up a ipkg of the needed zoneinfo files. > >>> - echo problem is back >> odd. >> >>> - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" >>> - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up >>> as "missed" >> also odd. I haven't seen this. >> >>> The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I >>> thought it was going to be 4.4.3? >> Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug fixes. > > I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well it > manages calls. > > Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does > that > mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find one > application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate. We have not done anything with motion sensors yet. So it is not automatic rotation on the Neo. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Thu, Oct 2, 2008 at 8:23 PM, Franky Van Liedekerke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 > Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there > in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. Same problem. A solution for getting the right date is to use the date command from ssh. > - echo problem is back During a call, people notify me that they hear their own voice, so echo problem is back. > - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" I've tried alarm this morning and it worked fine. > - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up > as "missed" Similar problem with calls and text messages. Even if I read them it seems they are never marked as read. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Friday 03 Oct 2008 4:46:45 am Lorn Potter wrote: > Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 > > > > Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if > >> you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. > >> > >> unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what it's > >> called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an > >> accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. > > > > hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too > > many bugs (old and new): > > > > - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using > > uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the > > previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? > > yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended. I get plenty of errors with regard to splash plugin not found. Seems like there should have been a splash screen that is trying to be updated but then it does not exist. And yes, boot it still slow. > > - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there > > in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. > > hmmm... > indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image. I hope it will be possible to just upgrade from the current install i just spent a few hours setting up the moko, transferring contacts etc. (My previous motoming phone does not have an export all feature) > > - echo problem is back > > odd. > > > - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" > > - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up > > as "missed" > > also odd. I haven't seen this. > > > The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I > > thought it was going to be 4.4.3? > > Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug fixes. I do not use the FR as my primary phone yet so have not tested how well it manages calls. Ps: Lorn, In your blog post for today, you mention dynamic rotation. Does that mean it adjusts based on accelerometer reading? I could only find one application where i had to tap on the screen to make it rotate. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 > Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> >> No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if >> you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. >> >> unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what it's >> called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an >> accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. >> > > hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too > many bugs (old and new): > > - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using > uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the > previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? yes, this has nothng to do with qtextended. > - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there > in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. hmmm... indeed. sorry. I will update with a new image. > - echo problem is back odd. > - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" > - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up > as "missed" also odd. I haven't seen this. > > The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I > thought it was going to be 4.4.3? Thats because its really a snapshot. which is just 4.4.1 + a few bug fixes. -- Lorn 'ljp' Potter Software Engineer, Systems Group, Qt Software, Nokia Pty Ltd ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Thursday 02 Oct 2008 11:53:46 pm Franky Van Liedekerke wrote: > On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 > > Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if > > you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. > > > > unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what it's > > called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an > > accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. > > hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too > many bugs (old and new): > > - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using > uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the > previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? > - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there > in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. > - echo problem is back > - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" > - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up > as "missed" > > The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I > thought it was going to be 4.4.3? Yup! I have all of those issues you mention. Anyway, USB networking is now working after i flashed mwester kernel. I am able to ssh but i cannot connect to the internet. ping google.com gives me "ping: bad address 'google.com'". I checked /etc/resolv.conf and it is empty. -- Cheers! Kishore ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [SPAM] Re: kernel for qt extended 4.4
On Thu, 2 Oct 2008 19:43:23 +0200 Petr Vanek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > No problem here. I reflashed previous QT snapshot 4.3 so i presume if > you use kernel from 4.3 you are ready to go. > > unless...I was also looking at the "services" screen or what it's > called in QT4.4 so i might have activated USB networking by an > accident and it's kernel independent? Check it out anyways. > hmmm ... I'm guessing that image isn't the official released one, too many bugs (old and new): - lots of kernel-warnings spit out during booting (using uImage-gta02-mwester-stable-d6f9fd270943fb22.bin from I believe the previous 4.3.x snapshot version). Or maybe this is a uimage issue? - timezone management isn't working (the files just aren't there in /usr/share/timezone). Also the time itself can't be changed. - echo problem is back - alarm keeps vibrating the phone, after pressing "snooze" - each received call arrives twice, causing the second call to show up as "missed" The image is called 4.4.1, but my phone reports it as 4.4.2 ... I thought it was going to be 4.4.3? Franky ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
