Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-23 Thread Adam Ward
On Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:58:18 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date? But I'm afraid I don't know the answers. I

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Adam Ward
On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:23 AM Neil Jerram wrote: Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct.

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Sat, 22 Sep 2012 10:01:23 AM Neil Jerram wrote: Adam Ward cay...@internode.on.net writes: On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-22 Thread Radek Polak
On Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:44:54 PM Neil Jerram wrote: Ah, thanks, I understand your question now: what version of fsogsmd does QtMoko build with, and isn't that now rather out of date? But I'm afraid I don't know the answers. I was using FSO from git at the time when i was

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-09-21 Thread Adam Ward
On Mon, 23 Jul 2012 10:29:38 AM Radek Polak wrote: On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there was no work for this device done

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Neil Jerram
Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd instead However I was told that adding

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-03 Thread Jiří Pinkava
On 08/03/2012 05:15 PM, Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli wrote: On Fri, 2012-08-03 at 16:47 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli gnu...@no-log.org writes: On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-08-01 Thread Denis 'GNUtoo' Carikli
On Tue, 2012-07-31 at 23:13 +0200, Neil Jerram wrote: - GPS: it seems clear now that it was a mistake to pull that under the FSO umbrella, and that mobile devices should just use standard gpsd instead However I was told that adding support for AGPS and GTA02 UBX would not be

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-31 Thread Neil Jerram
Dr. Michael Lauer mic...@vanille-media.de writes: Hi, Arguably those two paragraphs are already well satisfied by oFono. oFono probably now has the advantage in terms of maturity and deployment, is compilable by a standard C compiler, and has a recent version packaged in Debian. FSO is

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-23 Thread Radek Polak
On Sunday, July 22, 2012 02:08:39 PM Simon Busch wrote: As far as I know Qtmoko can use FSO but does not as default. Yes this is correct. My plan was to use FSO for GTA04. But when i got my GTA04, there was no work for this device done in FSO, so i rather added gta04 modem plugin based on

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Neil Jerram
Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your missing features? What do you like and what not? All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 12:03, schrieb Neil Jerram: All of the details you've described sound to me like excellent and compelling things to work on. But your wider problem is that you're working in a vacuum, because there's no reasonably widely used phone distribution that uses FSO and that is also

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Rico Rommel
Am Sonntag, 22. Juli 2012, 12:03:38 schrieb Neil Jerram: But your wider problem is that you're working in a vacuum, because there's no reasonably widely used phone distribution that uses FSO and that is also regularly and safely updated. That means you have no users for your incremental

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread rakshat hooja
On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.netwrote: Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are your missing features? What do you like

Re: [Shr-Devel] About the future of the freesmartphone.org middleware

2012-07-22 Thread Simon Busch
Am 22.07.2012 13:52, schrieb rakshat hooja: On Sun, Jul 22, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Neil Jerram n...@ossau.homelinux.netwrote: Simon Busch morp...@gravedo.de writes: I would be really happy to hear what other people are thinking about the idea behind FSO since it was started back in 2008. What are