Re: [Shr-User] Maintain(er) OpenMokoProjects [was: Openmoko projects page down]

2010-03-14 Thread Toni Mueller

Hello,

On Thu, 07.01.2010 at 20:46:25 -0300, Werner Almesberger wer...@openmoko.org 
wrote:
 Michael Pilgermann wrote:
  - for the gforge page itself: I am thankful for all the explainations
  about responsilities regarding the site; however, nobody has yet came
  up to say: it is me to deal with these problems.
 
 The implied meaning of these explanations was of course that for any
 prospective volunteer who's good at taming GForge but has kept quiet
 so far because everything seemed to be so well under control, now
 would be an excellent moment to speak up :)

I found this message on om-user when trying to figure out if it was
known that the gforge displays in Portugese or something, instead of
English.

FWIW, I'd like numbers on the operation of this gforge server to see
whether I can sponsor such an effort. So, whoever is responsible atm,
please get in touch with me.

Thank you!


Kind regards,
--Toni++

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Re: [Shr-User] Maintain(er) OpenMokoProjects [was: Openmoko projects page down]

2010-01-07 Thread Risto H. Kurppa
Nice to hear Openmoko projects site is back online.
I have no idea who maintains it but I guess it's someone from Openmoko Inc.

On Thu, Jan 7, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de wrote:

 Bringing me to my next question (all?) - what would be an adaquate location 
 for hosting application level projects for Openmoko? Any experience? - I 
 really liked the idea and functionality (SVN, WIKI and docs, News, File 
 releases, Tracker) OpenMokoProjects provided - and in the end, you could 
 easily browse through a bunch of applications for the Freerunner / Openmoko.

 I can think of (but):
 - sourceforge.net (for my taste has become too much marketing touchy)
 - google code (well; it's still Google)
 - some corner on SHR web side??
 - github.com (I have no experience at all; but it looks like providing most 
 of the functionality I mentioned before
 - feshmeat.net (would only be for the front page I guess)

Google Code seems to work well, I don't have experience from others. I
would also think Google is reliable enough that it'll not just
disappear from the net. And since working on public/open data, it
really doesn't matter if you store it somewhere else - Google will
find it anyway :)

 Writing all this; I remember discussions on these lists here about an 
 Openmoko application directory.? I can't remember the outcome of this 
 discussion - has anything evolved from it?

David Reyes Samblas Martinez da...@tuxbrain.com has been working on
it. He took apt-portal code (running at playdeb.net, available at
https://edge.launchpad.net/apt-portal) and wrote the required parts to
use .opk/.ipk repositories. There are no published results visible
yet, I hope he'll show us something soon :)


r


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Re: [Shr-User] Maintain(er) OpenMokoProjects [was: Openmoko projects page down]

2010-01-07 Thread Michael Pilgermann
Dear all,

thanks a lot for all the input. Just 3 small comments:
- for Google - I think it's more a religious discussion - but it is not only 
about finding stuff (or got found) more about supporting it actively. And there 
have been rumours about copyright issues when posting something with Google. 
(So - to be honest - I wouldn't dare)
- opkg.org has been even deader in my eyes than gforge; although I just read 
the reanimation notice on its web site. Well - it has to prove activity 
first; and in the end it cannot replace a gforge page with all the described 
functionalities ...
- for the gforge page itself: I am thankful for all the explainations about 
responsilities regarding the site; however, nobody has yet came up to say: it 
is me to deal with these problems. So, (well I will wait a bit longer) - but in 
a long term it should be sensible to migrate ...

An interesting combination I have explored so far should be freshmeat and 
github. But it all needs some more investigation ... ;)

Any input from other application developers? How do you host your development 
projects? (I think, most active in this list are kernel - or at least core / 
distribution - developers) ...

Best
Michael



 Original-Nachricht 
 Datum: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 12:40:43 +0100
 Von: Joachim Ott jo.shrde...@googlemail.com
 An: Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de
 CC: List for Openmoko community discussion community@lists.openmoko.org, 
 de...@lists.openmoko.org, shr-de...@lists.shr-project.org, 
 shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org
 Betreff: Re: [Shr-User] Maintain(er) OpenMokoProjects [was: Openmoko projects 
 page down]

 2010/1/7 Michael Pilgermann kichka...@gmx.de:
  Dear all,
 
  the OpenMokoProjects page is back online - thanks to whoever did this.
 
  But in fact, I got a bit concerned about carrying on to host my projects
 there. What is the status of this site - and who is the maintainer?
  Could you please do any statement about the future of OpenMokoProjects?
 (if it is unlikely to be continued, I would rather start migrating the
 content from there) ...
 
  Bringing me to my next question (all?) - what would be an adaquate
 location for hosting application level projects for Openmoko? Any experience? 
 -
 I really liked the idea and functionality (SVN, WIKI and docs, News, File
 releases, Tracker) OpenMokoProjects provided - and in the end, you could
 easily browse through a bunch of applications for the Freerunner / Openmoko.
 
  I can think of (but):
  - sourceforge.net (for my taste has become too much marketing touchy)
  - google code (well; it's still Google)
  - some corner on SHR web side??
  - github.com (I have no experience at all; but it looks like providing
 most of the functionality I mentioned before
  - feshmeat.net (would only be for the front page I guess)
 
  Writing all this; I remember discussions on these lists here about an
 Openmoko application directory.? I can't remember the outcome of this
 discussion - has anything evolved from it?
 
 Try http://www.opkg.org/

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Re: [Shr-User] Maintain(er) OpenMokoProjects [was: Openmoko projects page down]

2010-01-07 Thread Toni Mueller

Hi,

On Thu, 07.01.2010 at 09:59:09 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote:
  I can think of (but):
  - sourceforge.net (for my taste has become too much marketing touchy)
  - google code (well; it's still Google)
  - some corner on SHR web side??
  - github.com (I have no experience at all; but it looks like providing most 
  of the functionality I mentioned before

- Savannah
- bitbucket.org
- Alioth
- Gna
- Launchpad

  - feshmeat.net (would only be for the front page I guess)

Freshmeat is only an aggregator/a project database. You can list a
project there, but need to point elsewhere for the real content, afaik
(I have listed a few projects there, none of them my own). The projects
themselves are mostly, if not all, hosted elsewhere.

 Google Code seems to work well, I don't have experience from others. I

Imho, the user interface of Google is not very appealing, as is their
performance and limitation in what kind of SCM they support. I've not
yet operated a project there.

Alioth supports the full range of SCMs, but has the awkward GForge
interface (a fork from an earlier version of SourceForge's code when it
was released under the GPL).

github and bitbucket and Launchpad appear to support only git,
mercurial or bazaar, respectively, but I'd welcome corrections.

 would also think Google is reliable enough that it'll not just
 disappear from the net. And since working on public/open data, it
 really doesn't matter if you store it somewhere else - Google will
 find it anyway :)

I'd opt for something fail-safe, if possible. That may also mean to not
put all one's eggs in one basket.


Kind regards,
--Toni++


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Re: [Shr-User] Maintain(er) OpenMokoProjects [was: Openmoko projects page down]

2010-01-07 Thread Werner Almesberger
Michael Pilgermann wrote:
 - for the gforge page itself: I am thankful for all the explainations
 about responsilities regarding the site; however, nobody has yet came
 up to say: it is me to deal with these problems.

The implied meaning of these explanations was of course that for any
prospective volunteer who's good at taming GForge but has kept quiet
so far because everything seemed to be so well under control, now
would be an excellent moment to speak up :)

- Werner

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