Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
I haven't turned my FR on since I got a nokia n900 a few weeks back. It has all of the things that appeal to me about the FR - I can 'apt-get install' the software I want, I can ssh into it, etc. *BUT* it's better in so many ways. The UI is so much more responsive, the phone is so much more reliable. I can confidently make and receive calls! It has fantastic built-in email and IM apps, and I can run pidgin for IRC. Evince works great, and the wide screen display is gorgeous for reading e-books. It very reliably connects to wifi... It does a great job of playing SD TV episode video. I could go on for a while longer... About the only real negative I've noticed is that the battery life isn't great - I get maybe 12-14 hours on a charge --- it doesn't seem to be suspending at all in the sense that the FR does - I think it just blanks the screen and maybe slows the processor down... Oh, and the equivilent app to 'openmoocow' isn't quite as nice - which is almost a deal-breaker for my 2.5 year old daughter - she definitely prefers the FR. Warren On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Shr-User mailing list shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- Warren Baird - Photographer and Digital Artist http://www.synergisticimages.ca ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On 6 February 2010 21:16, Ed Falk f...@efalk.org wrote: I bought my Freerunner over a year ago. On the first boot, it made a very loud raucus sound which, as far as I know, blew out the speaker, as I have never heard an undistorted sound come out of it. [...] Hmm, sounds like a few possible hardware issues there. However... Is there a how to document on the wiki that might tell someone in my shoes how to bring the device up to date so that I can try again? Step 1: Try turning it on and plugging in the wall charger - to find out if it is working well enough to get charged up. (In the early days, there were serious problems if the battery became completely empty...) Step 2: Once fully charged, follow the instructions for flashing and trying out SHR-Testing. Regards, Neil ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Sebastian Krzyszkowiak wrote: AFAIR there was some problem like that with GSM firmware. Do you have it upgraded? Yes, but I upgraded it long before the first time I tried GPRS. So perhaps there were problems before that. The phone functionality improved with the GSM firmware update - no more people complaining they called me while nothing happened on the device. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. Hope that helps, Michael signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Michael Zanetti michael_zane...@gmx.netwrote: On Friday 01 January 2010 20:35:03 Jens Seidel wrote: On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). I own a rev. A5 freerunner and was seriously affected by the buzz problem. After applying the hardware fix the audio quality improved a lot. Before the fix there was no chance to use the FR as a phone. However, the audio quality was never as good as on a friends rev A7 FR (without buzz-fix). I did a lot of experimenting and tweaking with all possible audio parameters but the volume has always been either too low or distorted. He just uses the default audio configs and has nearly no problems with sound quality. So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. It is definetly worth it if you, or better said your call partner expierences a rather loud buzz. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... d Hope that helps, Michael ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
* Davide Scaini wrote, Il 04/01/2010 23:05: The fix will remove that buzz but won't fix other issues like rustling, echo or low volume. Those issues can mostly be addressed with software. The same happened to me, but i didn't find a viable software cnfiguration to use the fr as a phone. What about you? I'm really looking forward to replace my nokia N70 with fr for calls... I agree. Me too i have especially the low volume problem (i'm with QtMoko). I tried everything via mixer software, but without any success: phone calls are always with tiny volume, in an open space or also in a car, it's really difficult to ear the call. My phone it's a V6 release and without any buzzfix. Any suggestion? -- Andrea ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 16:44, Sebastian Krzyszkowiak seba.d...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 14:07, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: P Perhaps some remaining users and developers P from others FreeRunner distributions will be persuaded by the result P to also migrate to SHR. and that would be a good thing? not sure everybody would want to reboot everytime after gprs usage [1] and not have sent sms storage [2],[3]... Petr [1] http://trac.freesmartphone.org/ticket/474 [2] http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/231 [3] http://trac.shr-project.org/trac/ticket/386 WTF? Sent sms storage is implemented for quite long time... They are just displayed together with incoming ones, as there is no different view for sent messages yet. And thanks for reminding us about 386, it probably should be closed now :) Ok, looked at that ticket more carefully and edited it. But still, it doesn't make your point valid ;) And that strange GPRS issue (which is even more strange to me, because I never had that on my FR :x) is going to be resolved soon with ogsmd-fsogsmd transition (which is also going to give us nice performance boost) (But I don't think it's good to have everyone using one distro. Of course as SHR developer I would like more users, but as free software developer in general I think it's really important to have choice. And to not spread FUD :P) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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WTF? Not necessary here IMHO. Sent sms storage is implemented for quite long time... They are just displayed together with incoming ones, as there is no different view for sent messages yet. And thanks for reminding us about 386, it probably should be closed now :) thanks for reopening the bug for the missing view. i am testing this now and for some reason i can receive sms from other people, i can also send sms and yes, can see them in the inbox (great, thank you) but when sending sms to myself, never seem to receive (or perhaps just see?) the message in inbox. this led me to the conclusion sent messages are not saved because for a message from me to me i can see just one message and not two. this is on shr-u, upgraded today. And that strange GPRS issue (which is even more strange to me, because I never had that on my FR :x) is going to be resolved soon with ogsmd-fsogsmd transition (which is also going to give us nice performance boost) just because you never had it does not mean it doesn't exist. i know about the ogsmd-fsogsmd transition and am eagerly waiting for it, holding by breath and wishing Mickey will manage to have it done before jumping to his other duties. strangely enough, i didn't have the GPRS issue for some time before Christmas, now it bites every time i use gprs. And to not spread FUD :P) looking at the tickets (reopened and existing), i am aware of being constructively critical but not FUD spreading. cheers Petr ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Sat, Jan 2, 2010 at 19:33, Petr Vanek van...@penguin.cz wrote: WTF? Not necessary here IMHO. Sorry, I'm not native speaker, so this doesn't have such strong meaning for me, maybe WTH could be better ;) Sent sms storage is implemented for quite long time... They are just displayed together with incoming ones, as there is no different view for sent messages yet. And thanks for reminding us about 386, it probably should be closed now :) thanks for reopening the bug for the missing view. i am testing this now and for some reason i can receive sms from other people, i can also send sms and yes, can see them in the inbox (great, thank you) but when sending sms to myself, never seem to receive (or perhaps just see?) the message in inbox. this led me to the conclusion sent messages are not saved because for a message from me to me i can see just one message and not two. this is on shr-u, upgraded today. That can be bug then, I'll try to check it (I'm sure it doesn't happen when sending from opimd-utils) And that strange GPRS issue (which is even more strange to me, because I never had that on my FR :x) is going to be resolved soon with ogsmd-fsogsmd transition (which is also going to give us nice performance boost) just because you never had it does not mean it doesn't exist. i know I perfectly know that, read again what I wrote and don't worry :P about the ogsmd-fsogsmd transition and am eagerly waiting for it, holding by breath and wishing Mickey will manage to have it done before jumping to his other duties. strangely enough, i didn't have the GPRS issue for some time before Christmas, now it bites every time i use gprs. And to not spread FUD :P) looking at the tickets (reopened and existing), i am aware of being constructively critical but not FUD spreading. Well, both of SHR tickets you mentioned were closed when you wrote that mail. One of them I reopened after I read it, but due to other reasons than mentioned in your mail (as I removed storing sent messages and also few other already implemented things from this ticket). Maybe, again, FUD is too strong wording, but still your point wasn't valid ;) cheers Petr -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 29 Dec 2009, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes yes What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? SHR unstable Thank you :) r -- Klaus 'mrmoku' Kurzmann ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Does anyone else have trouble doing opkg ugrade over gprs? mine hangs after a bit. I never tried that - but make sure the thing doesn't suspend. The problem happens somewhere between the wget application and the kernel stack. It shows up with larger files being downloaded. Not too large, a few dozen kB is enough. When I see it happening, I repeat the wget download that opkg was trying to do, and I can see that wget is actually in stalled state after the first kB. If I retry the download with the continue option, it eventually downloads the whole file, retry after retry, chunk by chunk. This only happens with GPRS, so I assume it is related to kernel or pppd or around this... Have you tried a different kernel? The kernel is in a separate flash, so upgrading the root filesystem doesn't change the kernel, it must be installed separately. It could help - if it is a kernel problem. If nothing helps, consider trying a different phone company. The problem could be there too. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On 1/2/10, Helge Hafting helge.haft...@hist.no wrote: Does anyone else have trouble doing opkg ugrade over gprs? mine hangs after a bit. I never tried that - but make sure the thing doesn't suspend. The problem happens somewhere between the wget application and the kernel stack. It shows up with larger files being downloaded. Not too large, a few dozen kB is enough. When I see it happening, I repeat the wget download that opkg was trying to do, and I can see that wget is actually in stalled state after the first kB. If I retry the download with the continue option, it eventually downloads the whole file, retry after retry, chunk by chunk. This only happens with GPRS, so I assume it is related to kernel or pppd or around this... Have you tried a different kernel? The kernel is in a separate flash, so upgrading the root filesystem doesn't change the kernel, it must be installed separately. It could help - if it is a kernel problem. If nothing helps, consider trying a different phone company. The problem could be there too. Helge Hafting AFAIR there was some problem like that with GSM firmware. Do you have it upgraded? -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Fri, Jan 01, 2010 at 07:26:37PM +0100, Esben Damgaard wrote: Yes and no. I have two Freerunners (and a gta01 that collects dust). One without buzzfix. Using it for testing, programming and playing. Other one with buzzfix and using it as primary phone. I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). So I wonder whether it's worth to get such a fix. Jens ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Buzz fix (Was: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?)
On Fri, Jan 1, 2010 at 11:35 AM, Jens Seidel jenssei...@users.sf.net wrote: I'm curious, do you notice any difference between the buzz fixed one and the other? I read that only a few phones are affected by the buzz problem but nearly all (including the buzz fixed ones) have major problems with audio quality (noise, echo). im curious how many people have played around with there mickeyterm settings. my phones audio is just as bad as any other phone ive had. not buzz fix. with audio as low as it may be. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? NO Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-Unstable with own apps If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? A little more stabilitiy, but i consider it as a hacking device, and you could not hack it if you are using it as a daily phone ;) Maybe with some distro evolution I lack time to test all the distros. Thank you :) You are wellcome r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Shr-User mailing list shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user -- ___ Rafael Campos o0 Methril 0o http://openblog.methril.net/ ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? YES. It's my only phone for over a year. I did the buzzfix and gps cap myself and got no complaints there. Adjusting the call volume is a sorely missed feature, though. But the slowness of the software does tend to screw up things when more than one thing happens at the same time (simultaneous incoming calls, etc.) Do you use FR as your primary PDA? YES. GPS, password vault, the occasional Mokomaze. GPRS and WIFI are too unstable for any real connection, so no web or email. And bluetooth is just not there (no GUI == not there for the user). Does anyone else have trouble doing opkg ugrade over gprs? mine hangs after a bit. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U (currently the old one from September, which works stable enough as a phone.) The new Testing is quite broken, and I couldn't understand why the new Unstables where older than the Testing ones. Now that I see a lot of people is using the Unstable, it's probably meant to be like that -- and just opkg upgrade all the time. Will try it today... If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I haven't switched out because it is good enough as a simple working phone and a very basic GPS. Other than that, it is crap. I don't blame the community for the state of things; I think that Openmoko.com started by biting off much more than it could chew, failed to build a solid community, then realized the dead end which they put themselves into, and backed out on all of us into plan B. I understand the economics that forced OM to reboot and start over with the Wikireader, but I will always resent the fact that I spent 300 EUR on a badly designed and even worse tested hardware. I cannot forgive them for releasing this HW into the public without a fully patched kernel and drivers and a full list of known caveats after an honest effort to completely test the device. They somehow thought that time-to-market was more important than quality and reliability. Personally, I think there is no forgiveness for them because of this. Having said that, I am admired at this community that still keeps kicking the dead horse with a passion, and there is a small thread of hope inside my heart that this brick will someday fulfill at least half of its promises. And if it does, it will all be due to the work of these last few heroes - and I thank you so much. The Openmoko project is to me a disappointment as big as the cancellation of SG-1 and Firefly: there was still so much to do and say, but economics had the last word. Well, at least there are positive things left behind like the FSO and the colorful ecosystem of other distros and apps. Have a nice 2010 everyone!! :D May the source always be with you. Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 3:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? YesI guess. Though I don't use it in the PDA sense for much other than playing games and ssh'ing into my home pc. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U/T until recently. I've started trying some of the other distros available. Currently am playing with Android. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Shr-User mailing list shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 9:30 PM, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Not yet hoping to fix the audio quality issue (I had a buzz fix but still not usable in calls - if you have some idea how to configure frameworkd.conf please reply to the thread on shr-users list [shr-user] fine tuning audio) Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U (and shr-t on nand). I have to say that i used a lot debian (but missing a confortable input system, because of very old illume); tried several times android, and latest one from community was great, but I don't want to flash it on my nand. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? A dumb phone just to call. I hate smartphones and fr can't place a call with good quality (and i suspect i'm affected from 1024 bug). Thank you :) you're welcome :P r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Shr-User mailing list shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-unstable. I upgrade often, except that I wait when others run into some new problem. Then I wait for resolution, which normally don't take long. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? If I change, it will be to correct various problems: * Buzz and bass problems. Can be fixed with capacitors, but that won't be free and it won't help with the slowness problem. A BT headset will probably solve my sound issues, and can be carried over to future phones. But it means an extra device to bring, and another battery to charge. :-/ * Slowness. Of course, the new SHR-U helped. And we may still see improvements in X and elsewhere. Still, it seems the device has a slow memory bus, a slow connection to its SDcard, and slow graphics. It is useable, but a really snappy phone could be tempting. IF it runs a user-modifiable linux, that is! Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
-Original Message- From: shr-user-boun...@lists.shr-project.org on behalf of Vasco Névoa Sent: Thu 12/31/2009 7:20 PM Cc: List for Openmoko community discussion; shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org Subject: Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner? [...] Adjusting the call volume is a sorely missed feature, though. The new SHR-U has that for you. :-) [...] GPRS and WIFI are too unstable for any real connection, so no web or email. My experience is that GPRS has been stable for a long time, and WIFI is fine _if_ the phone don't suspend. So keep it on, either by plugging in power, or by turning suspend off in shr-settings. There is one annoying problem if several of GPRS/USB/WIFI is used - the last one to be used changes /etc/resolv.conf, and if that connection quits then the remaining ones may fail to look up names. Can be fixed by restarting the remaining connection. And bluetooth is just not there (no GUI == not there for the user). Does anyone else have trouble doing opkg ugrade over gprs? mine hangs after a bit. I never tried that - but make sure the thing doesn't suspend. Plug in power, or turn suspend off. Helge Hafting ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Hi Risto, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? I was using it as my primary phone for more than 1 year. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? the same as above. What distribution you run most of the time? first Om2007, Om2008, then SHR testing If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? two weeks ago I switched to nokia n900 and I like its responsiveness :-) -- Alef ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On 12/29/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U Thank you :) You're welcome Jake ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tuesday 29 December 2009 21:30:53 Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? No Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-u If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Using my old Nokia, waiting for better PIM on FR. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On 12/29/09, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Do you use FR as your primary PDA? What distribution you run most of the time? If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) Yes Yes SHR-U/playing with Gentoo ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U/qtmoko If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
RE: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
|Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Sometimes |Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No |What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-U |If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change |over to, and why? No changes yet, but still use Treo 650 because of PIM and Bluetooth headset. Once these things are stable, I think I can make the daily move. Since my Treo is falling apart, and since the distros are taking a long time to be ready (I don't blame anyone), the n900 is looking attractive. I'd rather stay open, though. | |Thank you :) Thank YOU! [Russell Dwiggins] | | ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [Shr-User] Quick e-mail poll: Still using your Freerunner?
Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-Testing If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? I need to switch to another phone when calling my grandmother, surely she doesn't hear very well any more but there still seems to be a audio/voice quality. I'm surprised so many people in this thread mention this. Hans ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes What distribution you run most of the time? SHR If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 21:30, Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? Yes. I'm even programming on it ;) What distribution you run most of the time? Of course latest SHR-unstable, being upgraded constantly for about year without reflashing ;) -- Sebastian Krzyszkowiak dos ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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Am Dienstag, den 29.12.2009, 22:30 +0200 schrieb Risto H. Kurppa: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? yes Do you use FR as your primary PDA? yes, if downloading + listening to podcasts counts as pda usage What distribution you run most of the time? an old shr unstable (from september or so) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, 2009-12-29 at 22:30 +0200, Risto H. Kurppa wrote: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? Yes, lately with great satisfaction. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? No, an N800 (which I owned way before my FR). What distribution you run most of the time? SHR-testing (the revived one, ;-) If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? Thank you :) r I'm looking forward to the results! David ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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1) Yes 2) Yes 3) SHR-testing ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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2009/12/29 Vaudano Luca vaud...@gmail.com 1) Yes 2) Yes 3) SHR-testing ___ Shr-User mailing list shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user 1) No 2) No 3) Debian or Qtmoko. -- A.A. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
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On Tue, 29 Dec 2009 22:30:53 +0200 Risto H. Kurppa ri...@kurppa.fi said: Do you use FR as your daily/primary phone? no. gathering dust. Do you use FR as your primary PDA? no. gathering dust. What distribution you run most of the time? no to both the above. but on other devices a mix of openembedded, debian, ubuntu or do it yourself. If you don't use FR as your daily phone/PDA, what phone did you change over to, and why? 1. i'd like something not crawlingly slow 2. i'd like to use the 3g data rates telcos offer here, but where their 2g data rates are much more expensive 3. i'd like it to work when i travel (going to korea and japan for example only 3g phones will work). 4. i want a touchscreen that is large enough to be really usable (as such the 2.8 lcd is really more like 2.2 or 2.4 thanks to the bezel - for input). 5. again speed, capacity, screen, baseband, usability. Thank you :) r -- | risto h. kurppa | risto at kurppa dot fi | http://risto.kurppa.fi ___ Shr-User mailing list shr-u...@lists.shr-project.org http://lists.shr-project.org/mailman/listinfo/shr-user -- - Codito, ergo sum - I code, therefore I am -- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler)ras...@rasterman.com ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
