Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-08-01 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 8/1/07, Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > BTW, evas have a cairo backend, so you can mix both if required. > > Does it mean you can render evas in clutter then (i'm not thinking > running clutter on the neo, it's a general purpose question)? If cairo can render to clutter, yes, but

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-08-01 Thread Florent THIERY
> BTW, evas have a cairo backend, so you can mix both if required. Does it mean you can render evas in clutter then (i'm not thinking running clutter on the neo, it's a general purpose question)? > Other > backends, like xrender, opengl, fb and directfb are supported as well. Regarding opengl, i

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-31 Thread Jay Vaughan
yep, but svg file or png wouldn't matter in most cases, where image size is fixed size. the benefit for using SVG is of course the ability to design extremely rich interfaces .. There are arguments that favor SVG, like have one file for multiple size and reduce file size footprint, but re

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-31 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/31/07, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > it's not about the conversion itself, but the data. > > > > libcairo + librsvg == data galore. sure, evas can use svg import too, but it just rasterize once at load time. > > As for counting cairo out, sure not. But use it for specific scope

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-31 Thread Jay Vaughan
it's not about the conversion itself, but the data. libcairo + librsvg == data galore. As for counting cairo out, sure not. But use it for specific scope. Indeed, its a standard in my GUI toolkit at this point .. soon as I get a neo in my hands, I'll have a go at getting it rendering a s

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-31 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/30/07, Jay Vaughan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > > Cairo, as suggested, will not be an option in near future, since it > > does 32bpp graphics and the conversion will kill our hardware. > > > > > fwiw, its quite feasible to do nice assembly-based BPP conversion on > ARM and involves a deci

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-30 Thread Jay Vaughan
Cairo, as suggested, will not be an option in near future, since it does 32bpp graphics and the conversion will kill our hardware. fwiw, its quite feasible to do nice assembly-based BPP conversion on ARM and involves a decidedly negligible hit on performance .. don't count cairo out of t

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-30 Thread Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
On 7/27/07, Florent THIERY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I never heard about it, but it looks interesting (following the > physics-inspired/verlet integration ramble some months ago on this > very list) > http://www.mdk.org.pl/articles/2007/04/23/chapter-1-in-which-we-meet-graff > > Be sure to check

Re: [UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-27 Thread Jay Vaughan
On Jul 27, 2007, at 2:53 PM, Florent THIERY wrote: http://files.mdk.am/demos/graff-demo-3.avi nice demo .. a lot of this can be done through cairographics too, incidentally, and i rather like cairo's progress on the pocket, lately, anyway .. exciting times to be building apps for linux

[UI/Graphics] Ever heard of graff ?

2007-07-27 Thread Florent THIERY
I never heard about it, but it looks interesting (following the physics-inspired/verlet integration ramble some months ago on this very list) http://www.mdk.org.pl/articles/2007/04/23/chapter-1-in-which-we-meet-graff Be sure to check out this one (scrolling list with inertia scrolling) http://file