Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (6 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread HighCat

On Wednesday 12 August 2009 15:20:12 Marcel wrote:
> I'd say thats somehow related to lib versions SHR uses rather than neon
> itself. On OM2009t5 I opened 1600x1200 images and neon didn't complain
> once.

Test image is in bugzilla:
https://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/download.php/239/994/234/31/img_4506_1.jpg

Looks like people can't reproduce this. I'll test more a bit later.

> One could add to the tested distros section that SHR has problems with
> large images.

Ok, +1 too 
6 votes
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 16:45 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz
>  wrote:
> Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> 
> +1
> 3 Votes
> 
> +1
> 4 votes.
> 
> For future applications can we just open voting on the discussion page
> of the hall of fame wiki page? Or is mailing list better for people?

I guess the mailinglist has by far more readers than any discussion
page...



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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
> For future applications can we just open voting on the discussion page of
> the hall of fame wiki page? Or is mailing list better for people?

I personally find the mailling list more convenient.

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 05:55 -0500 schrieb HighCat:
> 
> 
> Marcel-2 wrote:
> > 
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> >> I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> > 
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> > 
> 
> I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images
> on SHR, py2.6)
> 
> The bug:
> http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994

I'd say thats somehow related to lib versions SHR uses rather than neon
itself. On OM2009t5 I opened 1600x1200 images and neon didn't complain
once.
One could add to the tested distros section that SHR has problems with
large images. (What is "large" exactly? Could you do some tests?)

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread rakshat hooja
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Patryk Benderz wrote:

> Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> >
> > According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> > 2 Votes so far.
> +1
> 3 Votes
>

+1
4 votes.

For future applications can we just open voting on the discussion page of
the hall of fame wiki page? Or is mailing list better for people?

Rakshat
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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread rakshat hooja
Patryk Benderz wrote:

>
>
> 2.There already is "homepage" tag which should lead to contact
> information also. If author doesn't provide contact info on projects
> homepage, it might mean he/she doesn't want to reveal this info. We
> should respect his/her decision.


I am only thinking of putting the contact information of those authors who
have their contact info given on their home page. The reason being many
users will not go to home page and contact authors about bugs, feature
requests, patches but if they see the contact info easily they will contact
them. This will lead to more contact between users and authors.

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
> I tried to integrate an Author= Tag, but the box doesn't seem to support
> that. Could someone add such a feature? I don't know how to edit the box
> template. The data is already in the page, just need to support an
> Author=.
This can be done rather easyly but three cases arise:

1.All old calls to ApplicationBox should be updated

2.There already is "homepage" tag which should lead to contact
information also. If author doesn't provide contact info on projects
homepage, it might mean he/she doesn't want to reveal this info. We
should respect his/her decision.

3.We should formally ask ApplicationBox template author for his/her
opinion about modifying this template.

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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread HighCat



Marcel-2 wrote:
> 
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
>> I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> 
> According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> 2 Votes so far.
> 

I'd vote for Neon too, but looks like it's not enough stable (large images
on SHR, py2.6)

The bug:
http://projects.openmoko.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=255&group_id=239&atid=994
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Re: [Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2009-08-12, śro o godzinie 12:08 +0200, Marcel pisze:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> > I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
> 
> According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
> 2 Votes so far.
+1
3 Votes

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
> Okay, I switched the list to application boxes.

I like... :)

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 12:07 +0200 schrieb Niall Haslam:
> On Wednesday 12 August 2009 11:56, Marcel wrote:
> > Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Schölzel:
> > > 2009/8/12 Marcel :
> > > > As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> > > > quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> > > > reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
> 
> I'd really like the voting mechanism on opkg  more developed rather than a 
> much more "static" wiki. With a voting scheme you can tell much more about 
> the package. You could have the top ten all time apps, top music app and so 
> on. This would be more useful than a wiki page. Though it would be nice to 
> see more discussion of why particular apps work and why other don't. Having a 
> wiki page to summarise the traits of the successful apps would be a useful 
> resource.

Not a bad idea, but we don't have access to opkg.org to do such things
and it's author disappeared somehow, as far as I know.


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 15:19 +0530 schrieb rakshat hooja:
> 
> 
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Marcel  wrote:
> Good morning,
> 
> I just created an initial version of the Hall of Fame page
> (are these
> caps correct?).
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame
> 
> I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly
> on the
> page and linking to the app's own page instead seems
> reasonable.
> What do you think about first discussing new apps for that
> list here? As
> I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> quality
> software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a reason to
> fix some
> bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
> 
> 
> 
> If public can we also have the author contact info directly on this
> page? I am hoping there will be some forum of contact between repo
> maintainers and application authors and packagers so that the latest
> versions are always in the repositories.

I tried to integrate an Author= Tag, but the box doesn't seem to support
that. Could someone add such a feature? I don't know how to edit the box
template. The data is already in the page, just need to support an
Author=.


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[Wiki] Neon into Hall of Fame (2 Votes) (was: Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created)

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 04:58 -0500 schrieb KaZeR:
> I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).

According to Adolph Vogel's suggestion, I vote for Neon.
2 Votes so far.


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Niall Haslam
On Wednesday 12 August 2009 11:56, Marcel wrote:
> Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Schölzel:
> > 2009/8/12 Marcel :
> > > As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> > > quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> > > reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)

I'd really like the voting mechanism on opkg  more developed rather than a 
much more "static" wiki. With a voting scheme you can tell much more about 
the package. You could have the top ten all time apps, top music app and so 
on. This would be more useful than a wiki page. Though it would be nice to 
see more discussion of why particular apps work and why other don't. Having a 
wiki page to summarise the traits of the successful apps would be a useful 
resource.

My 2cents.

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:48 +0200 schrieb Adolph J. Vogel:
> > I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
> > page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.
> 
> I would suggest that we use the community update layout here. I would like to 
> see a screenshot, (showing off the app) and what distros it works on.
> 
> regards, Adolph

Okay, I switched the list to application boxes. Only need some recent
screenshots, I have the fast black-and-green theme installed, could
someone take a shot of the app's most recent version and add it?

Additionally, I only run Om2009t5, so I can only guess which other
platforms they run on. Most do on SHR...

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
> I think this may end up in a list, where not every entry may meet
> every ones personal definition of "stable and usable". It also may
> lead to some nice flame wars, as it has to be discussed, if a software
> is "good". Hm...

Maybe software should only go on the wall if vouched for by say 10 users on 
the list. This way its not subjective, if you get 10 votes your on the wall.


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread KaZeR

I suggest adding Neon (the image viewer).
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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Am Mittwoch, den 12.08.2009, 11:49 +0200 schrieb Fabian Schölzel:
> 2009/8/12 Marcel :
> >
> > As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> > quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> > reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
> >
> 
> I think this may end up in a list, where not every entry may meet
> every ones personal definition of "stable and usable". It also may
> lead to some nice flame wars, as it has to be discussed, if a software
> is "good". Hm...

Of course "stable and usable" is part of one's personal use case etc,
that's correct. But imho there are quite some apps where we all agree
that they're truly "good"... The ones which need discussion maybe just
need a bug fix or two. :)


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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Fabian Schölzel
2009/8/12 Marcel :
>
> As I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high
> quality software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a
> reason to fix some bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
>

I think this may end up in a list, where not every entry may meet
every ones personal definition of "stable and usable". It also may
lead to some nice flame wars, as it has to be discussed, if a software
is "good". Hm...

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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread rakshat hooja
On Wed, Aug 12, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Marcel  wrote:

> Good morning,
>
> I just created an initial version of the Hall of Fame page (are these
> caps correct?).
> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame
>
> I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
> page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.
> What do you think about first discussing new apps for that list here? As
> I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high quality
> software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a reason to fix some
> bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)
>
>

If public can we also have the author contact info directly on this page? I
am hoping there will be some forum of contact between repo maintainers and
application authors and packagers so that the latest versions are always in
the repositories.

Rakshat

Rakshat
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Re: [Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Adolph J. Vogel
> I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
> page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.

I would suggest that we use the community update layout here. I would like to 
see a screenshot, (showing off the app) and what distros it works on.

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[Wiki] Hall of Fame created

2009-08-12 Thread Marcel
Good morning,

I just created an initial version of the Hall of Fame page (are these
caps correct?).
http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Hall_of_Fame

I think keeping only absolutely nessecary information directly on the
page and linking to the app's own page instead seems reasonable.
What do you think about first discussing new apps for that list here? As
I said on there, that would be useful for keeping only high quality
software listed. (And maybe gives software authors a reason to fix some
bugs, respect is everything [>> GTA2]) :)

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