Re: [debian] LXDE?
I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks. ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet. 2009/1/18 arne anka (via Nabble) ml-user+362-447886...@n2.nabble.com: ok, i just played around with lxde and i am going to purge it immediately. my main points: - almost every component needs a font setting on its own. the default is 10pt and that's so big you can't read anything, not to speak of buttons being out of reach - while lxde is able to recognice the resolution of 640x480 it fails miserably at resizing its dialogs. there are no scrollbars and mostly the have a stupid with of 640 just becaus it seems to be hardcoded somewhere and thus dropdownlist etc are stretched to match that min width ... - configuration facilities are sparse. so far i found one for appearance, which does not match everything and one for openbox, the window manager. how to remove the lot of applets jamming the panle and how to add applets or another panel is impossible to say. the config files used sem to be rather obscure -- obconf, the openbox configurator, creates a rc.xml which obviously is not used; since the dialogs are too big i started them via ssh -X at the host, but whatever i did -- the changes never appeared on the fr; even manipulating manually the xml did not do anything. - it might be more resource friendly, but it requires hal to run and fam or the like, the lxappearances tool requires gtk-themes and does not install without - alltogether seems lxde far less finder/stylus friendly than xfce -- i started lxlauncher which offers a tabbed gui, like the eeepc has (had?), since i considered it far superior to a popup menu -- but after all the trouble with the fonts it started up with 10 or 12pt fonts; totally unsusable and no obvious way to change that (one should think that setting the font size with _two_ tools should be enough ...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list commun...@... http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community This email is a reply to your post @ http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--LXDE--tp1690148p2174410.html You can reply by email or by visting the link above. -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--LXDE--tp1690148p2176845.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks. ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet. i am perfectly happy with debian (in fact. it was a major point when purchaisng the fr that debian will run on it, not some home made linux distribution). what i was looking for was a more finger/stylus friendly and maybe more econimical (memory- and cpuwise) gui. since somebody asked for reports, i posted my experiences. the most interesting thing was/is the tabbed gui, like the eeepc comes with, which is delivered by lxlauncher. lxlauncher in turn does not depend on lxde -- so i installed it again and started with xfce. imagine my surprise when it came up: fonts were ok! still no way to configure anything, but excpet fonts there's not much to configure anyway (the tabs could be bigger, easier to hit with a finger). i need to figure out, how the apps relate to the tabs; probably some entry in the .desktop file. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
lxlauncher in turn does not depend on lxde -- so i installed it again and started with xfce. What lxlancher package version fo you have installed? I have 0.2-2, and it just segfaults for me under matchbox session. And that is already reported by someone as #498601 ... signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
i do not use matchbox, but xfce4! the matchbox wm is far too limited, imo. debian-gta02:~# dpkg -s lxlauncher Package: lxlauncher Status: install ok installed Priority: extra Section: x11 Installed-Size: 188 Maintainer: Andrew Lee and...@linux.org.tw Architecture: armel Version: 0.2-2 Depends: libatk1.0-0 (= 1.20.0), libc6 (= 2.7-1), libcairo2 (= 1.2.4), libglib2.0-0 (= 2.16.0), libgnome-menu2 (= 2.15.4), libgtk2.0-0 (= 2.12.0), libpango1.0-0 (= 1.20.3), libstartup-notification0 (= 0.8-1), libx11-6 Recommends: gnome-icon-theme Description: Easy-Mode launcher for subnotebook like EeePC LXLauncher is a lightweight GTK+ 2.x based Easy-Mode launcher for subnotebook like EeePC. . It is standard-compliant and desktop-independent. It follows freedesktop.org specs, so newly added applications will automatically show up in the launcher, and vice versa for the removed ones. . Drop the limieted Asus launcher and try LXLauncher today! Homepage: http://lxde.sf.net ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 moinmoin Am 18.01.2009 um 13:45 schrieb arne anka: I've switched from debian+LXDE to SHR for several weeks. ShR is not perfect though, it is not released yet. i am perfectly happy with debian (in fact. it was a major point when purchaisng the fr that debian will run on it, not some home made linux distribution). what i was looking for was a more finger/stylus friendly and maybe more econimical (memory- and cpuwise) gui. since somebody asked for reports, i posted my experiences. the most interesting thing was/is the tabbed gui, like the eeepc comes with, which is delivered by lxlauncher. lxlauncher in turn does not depend on lxde -- so i installed it again and started with xfce. imagine my surprise when it came up: fonts were ok! still no way to configure anything, but excpet fonts there's not much to configure anyway (the tabs could be bigger, easier to hit with a finger). i need to figure out, how the apps relate to the tabs; probably some entry in the .desktop file. i just played a bit around with lxlauncher .. have you read /usr/share/doc/lxlauncher/README yet? and look in /usr/share/lxlauncher - you can find a gtkrc and a launcher.menu where you can configure (i think) a lot of things .. have some fun with configuring cheers, christian (morlac) adams - -- - -BEGIN CONTACT BLOCK- eMail: mor...@morlac.de Jabber: mor...@skavaer.homelinux.org - --END CONTACT BLOCK-- - -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.1 GCS$/IT;d-;s:;a?;C++(+++);UL;P++(+++); L++(+++);E---;W++;N(+);o?;K?;!w;!O;!M+;!V;PS(+);PE; Y+;PGP++;t+(++);5(+)++;X(+);R*;tv-+;b++(+++);DI++; D++(+++);G(+)++;e;h-()++;r++;y++; - --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFJczdLr81gVylJyzERAmCCAKCgYkSBCc3jjg0MvekfPBbWq3U4dACfWARI cE4IBq/6OwcjcDLfe4TPxaU= =xl16 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
ok, i just played around with lxde and i am going to purge it immediately. my main points: - almost every component needs a font setting on its own. the default is 10pt and that's so big you can't read anything, not to speak of buttons being out of reach - while lxde is able to recognice the resolution of 640x480 it fails miserably at resizing its dialogs. there are no scrollbars and mostly the have a stupid with of 640 just becaus it seems to be hardcoded somewhere and thus dropdownlist etc are stretched to match that min width ... - configuration facilities are sparse. so far i found one for appearance, which does not match everything and one for openbox, the window manager. how to remove the lot of applets jamming the panle and how to add applets or another panel is impossible to say. the config files used sem to be rather obscure -- obconf, the openbox configurator, creates a rc.xml which obviously is not used; since the dialogs are too big i started them via ssh -X at the host, but whatever i did -- the changes never appeared on the fr; even manipulating manually the xml did not do anything. - it might be more resource friendly, but it requires hal to run and fam or the like, the lxappearances tool requires gtk-themes and does not install without - alltogether seems lxde far less finder/stylus friendly than xfce -- i started lxlauncher which offers a tabbed gui, like the eeepc has (had?), since i considered it far superior to a popup menu -- but after all the trouble with the fonts it started up with 10 or 12pt fonts; totally unsusable and no obvious way to change that (one should think that setting the font size with _two_ tools should be enough ...) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
the default is 10pt and that's so big you can't read anything On my FR running Debian, 10pt is so small I can't read it. Have to set to 18 or larger. Why this difference? Dpi should be configured somewhere? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Why this difference? Dpi should be configured somewhere? well, i start X with --dpi 285 ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Better to add a swap partition, or swap file. Else you will get out of memory error when for example apt-get install something. Here is my /etc/fstab: The 3rd line is for swap, make sure to change the first column to your partition device. If you can not create new partition for swap, just add a swap file. Refer to: http://www.go2linux.org/Swap-memory-increase-with-swap-file http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-September/031106.html Better to start openmoko-panel-plugin, else you will get frustrated by the matchbox keyboard (suppose you choose it): Add a new line to file /etc/xdg/lxsession/LXDE/autostart: @openmoko-panel-plugin With the panel plugin you can easily hide/open the keyboard. BTW, the openmoko frameworkd and panel plugin eats quite a bit memory :) Maybe it's a good idea to move the tray from bottom panel to (newly created) top panel. To do this, add a new file (named for example top-panel) in /root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/ with the content of Then (1) remove the tray from /usr/share/lxpanel/profile/LXDE/panels/panel (2) OR just copy this file to dir /root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/, rename it to config -- this overrides the default panel configuration. The biggest problem of LXDE on touch screen phone is UI. To do right click, install libgtkstylus and add it to ~/.xsession: export GTK_MODULES=libgtkstylus.so xsetroot -solid black # strange exec startlxde NOTE: do backups before modifications. Regards. jos-3 wrote: Hello, I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. Can you help me please? (I have been reading the wiki, but I don' t get it :-( ) Thanks Jos. Op maandag 22-12-2008 om 19:04 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Michele Renda: Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and functionality compared to XFCE? is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin work (ie is there a standard systray)? Hello, yes I was. I used on FR and according me run faster than XFCE (and use less memory). Yes, if I remember well it has systray support, and it contain panel and plugins like XFCE. You can find it on Debian repository (apt-get install lxde). All configurations can be done via gui. Please, if you try it, please report your impressions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/-debian--LXDE--tp1690148p1694453.html Sent from the Openmoko Community mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
[debian] LXDE?
someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and functionality compared to XFCE? is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin work (ie is there a standard systray)? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
experiences in regard to responsibility whoever might be responsible or not -- i meant responsiveness of course. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and functionality compared to XFCE? is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin work (ie is there a standard systray)? Hello, yes I was. I used on FR and according me run faster than XFCE (and use less memory). Yes, if I remember well it has systray support, and it contain panel and plugins like XFCE. You can find it on Debian repository (apt-get install lxde). All configurations can be done via gui. Please, if you try it, please report your impressions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Hello, I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. Can you help me please? (I have been reading the wiki, but I don' t get it :-( ) Thanks Jos. Op maandag 22-12-2008 om 19:04 uur [tijdzone +0100], schreef Michele Renda: Il 22/12/2008 15:06, arne anka ha scritto: someone recently suggested using LXDE instead of XFCE -- are there any experiences in regard to responsibility, memory requirements and functionality compared to XFCE? is it really more lightweight and faster? and does openmoko-panel-plugin work (ie is there a standard systray)? Hello, yes I was. I used on FR and according me run faster than XFCE (and use less memory). Yes, if I remember well it has systray support, and it contain panel and plugins like XFCE. You can find it on Debian repository (apt-get install lxde). All configurations can be done via gui. Please, if you try it, please report your impressions. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: [debian] LXDE?
Il 23/12/2008 00:30, jos ha scritto: I also want to try LXDE but I don't no how to start it up. Can you help me please? It is simple. First of all you must to have Debian installed. Than you have to install lxde with the command: apt-get install lxde This command will install a metapackage that will install all the package needed to get lxde running. Now you should be able to get it running with the command: startlxde4 To get it running automatically you can edit your .xsession: #!/bin/sh startlxde4 (Ps. I am not very sure about the last step. If someone know better how to launch lxde please correct me). Ps.2. I saw that lxde can be configure to appeare like XFCE. Nice.) ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
