Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-25 Thread Bartłomiej Zimon
Dnia 13 lutego 2010 12:42 ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl napisał(a): Timo Juhani Lindfors wrote: How can kernel modules affect graphics performance? Maybe because some of the necessary modules can't be loaded now. I use this kernel on QtMoko and graphics are very fast, this was

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread Radek Polak
On Monday 15 February 2010 19:33:56 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: A framebuffer device is usually slower than a native driver under X. My Freerunner's UI performance definitely felt a bit faster after moving to the native driver. My point is that X server probably kills the performance

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread Fabian Schölzel
2010/2/16 Radek Polak pson...@seznam.cz: I think that this is very unfortunate explanation. To me it looks like somebody said that freerunner's graphics sucks and there is no way it will ever be faster and it was taken as a fact. I'm no hardware guru, but if i remember it correctly, it was the

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread -= Apertum =-
* Radek Polak wrote, Il 16/02/2010 15:48: Now i just change a few kernel config options and few line patch (thanks to Thomas White) and the graphics speed is very nice. In QVGA it can probably match iPhone or any Android device. I totally agree Radek's words, and in my experience the

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 15:48:49 Radek Polak wrote: On Monday 15 February 2010 19:33:56 Rui Miguel Silva Seabra wrote: I think that this is very unfortunate explanation. To me it looks like somebody said that freerunner's graphics sucks and there is no way it will ever be faster and it

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread Thomas White
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:19:08 +0100 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Now i just change a few kernel config options and few line patch (thanks to Thomas White) and the graphics speed is very nice. In QVGA it can probably match iPhone or any Android device. No, it can't, at

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread rixed
It's a fact that to get to this state we're going to have to write a lot of hardware-specific code, and each developer who would potentially work on this stuff has to make their own decision about whether they want to do that for a GPU which won't be found elsewhere. There is another, much

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 17:04:28 ri...@happyleptic.org wrote: It's a fact that to get to this state we're going to have to write a lot of hardware-specific code, and each developer who would potentially work on this stuff has to make their own decision about whether they want to do

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:49:30 +0100 Thomas White t...@bitwiz.org.uk said: On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 16:19:08 +0100 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com wrote: Now i just change a few kernel config options and few line patch (thanks to Thomas White) and the graphics speed is very nice. In QVGA

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread David Garabana Barro
On Tuesday 16 February 2010 17:18:27 Carsten Haitzler wrote: as for GL.. there is gl-es1.1 - but only minimally useful. can't do vga rendering - so u need to drop to qvga anyway. max texture size of 256x256? Wasn't max texture size 512x512? signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-16 Thread The Rasterman
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 17:33:32 +0100 David Garabana Barro da...@garabana.com said: On Tuesday 16 February 2010 17:18:27 Carsten Haitzler wrote: as for GL.. there is gl-es1.1 - but only minimally useful. can't do vga rendering - so u need to drop to qvga anyway. max texture size of 256x256?

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-15 Thread Radek Polak
On Saturday 13 February 2010 11:49:14 ghislain wrote: I think the slowness of the graphics can be explained by not having the kernel-modules installed. The slowness is more likely because SHR runs on top of X while QtMoko draws directly to framebuffer. Regards Radek

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-15 Thread Rui Miguel Silva Seabra
Em 15-02-2010 13:03, Radek Polak escreveu: I think the slowness of the graphics can be explained by not having the kernel-modules installed. The slowness is more likely because SHR runs on top of X while QtMoko draws directly to framebuffer. A framebuffer device is usually slower than a

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-13 Thread ghislain
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Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-13 Thread Timo Juhani Lindfors
ghislain ghisl...@basetrend.nl writes: I think the slowness of the graphics can be explained by not having the kernel-modules installed. The kernel-modules are contained in the rootfs.img as part of the total distribution. How can kernel modules affect graphics performance?

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-13 Thread ghislain
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Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
[cut] This is an installer-image which will flash to nand, but you can flash to nand using dfu-util by flashing the files 'kernel.img' (== uImage) and 'rootfs.img' (== jffs2). Ghislain And which of files is kernel with nodebug? -- Patryk LeadMan Benderz Linux Registered User #377521 ()

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-12 Thread Alishams Hassam
On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:39 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] This is an installer-image which will flash to nand, but you can flash to nand using dfu-util by flashing the files 'kernel.img' (== uImage) and 'rootfs.img' (== jffs2). Ghislain And which of files is kernel with nodebug?

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-12 Thread Patryk Benderz
Dnia 2010-02-12, pią o godzinie 04:57 -0800, Alishams Hassam pisze: On Fri, 2010-02-12 at 13:39 +0100, Patryk Benderz wrote: [cut] This is an installer-image which will flash to nand, but you can flash to nand using dfu-util by flashing the files 'kernel.img' (== uImage) and

Re: Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-02-12 Thread neo
Thanks, I made little test. I used this kernel with SHR-T. System loaded fast (~30s) , applications loads fast, but all graphics related activities like screen scrolling are painfully slow and look like a slide show. Would you kindly advise me a better nodebug kernel for tests with SHR-T? I

Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-13 Thread ghislain
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Re: [qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-12 Thread Denis Johnson
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[qtmoko] New significant speedups coming to FreeRunner

2010-01-11 Thread ghislain
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