Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-24 Thread Sean Moss-Pultz
On 9/21/08 Tom Yates wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Hire wrote: Instead I find it very usable and better stability. The only thing that I find totally useless is the OM-Locations... we need a very usable gps sotfware like navit ( with complete maps as navteq o telealtas and a

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-21 Thread Tom Yates
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Hire wrote: Instead I find it very usable and better stability. The only thing that I find totally useless is the OM-Locations... we need a very usable gps sotfware like navit ( with complete maps as navteq o telealtas and a routes engine ) so why don't port it onto

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
For a complete and working routing solution just use navit. It uses maps from openstreetmaps.org compiled to a binary format which consumes just ~90MB for whole germany. It also supports speach output for directions. I tested it between two cities where i live and it routed me very well. The

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-21 Thread Fox Mulder
I also experienced the problem that the FR slowes down to a point where it freezes when the memory consumption goes to the limit of the internal ram. And this happenes quite often when using many programs. To solve this problem i created a swap file with 64MB on my sd-card (vfat, but this

Memory usage and swap (was Re: 2008.9 Basic questions)

2008-09-21 Thread Marcel Wirth
Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: Iain B. Findleton wrote: And of course, the buggy software can hurt. Surprisingly, I activated swap on my FR and stability and periodic slowing have improved. Don't know why that should be, but there you are. The answer there is to run top while using the phone...

2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Nishit Dave
1. Is it necessary to do a reflash, or will update upgrade from 2008.8 work? 2. Is it worth the effort? From what I read on the wiki, the worst problems are yet unresolved. I should have waited before buying the FR. When I bought it in July, there was no proper notice on the wiki or on the

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Shakthi Kannan
Hi, --- On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I should have waited before buying the FR. When I bought it in July, there | was no proper notice on the wiki or on the IDA Systems' website that this | phone isn't fit for daily use. \-- The Qtopia version works

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Robin Paulson
2008/9/20 Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 1. Is it necessary to do a reflash, or will update upgrade from 2008.8 work? update and upgrade does the same thing 2. Is it worth the effort? From what I read on the wiki, the worst problems are yet unresolved. i can't see any difference. except

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Shakthi Kannan [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, --- On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:40 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I should have waited before buying the FR. When I bought it in July, there | was no proper notice on the wiki or on the IDA Systems'

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Fox Mulder
When i ordered the phone the reseller said on the website that the phone isn't useable for daily use and is only for enthusiasts. And this information was everywhere in the net even at july when i ordered my phone. So don't say you didn't noticed this when you ordered your phone. Or did you just

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When i ordered the phone the reseller said on the website that the phone isn't useable for daily use and is only for enthusiasts. And this information was everywhere in the net even at july when i ordered my phone. So don't

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When i ordered the phone the reseller said on the website that the phone isn't useable for daily use and is only for enthusiasts. And this information was

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And by the way, what do Openmoko have to say about the FR? http://www.openmoko.com/product.html# The only (implied) warning one could have come across in the early days of the launch was the *Community Portal*, which is

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Nishit Dave wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Nishit Dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:55 PM, Fox Mulder [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When i ordered the phone the reseller said on the website that

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Nishit Dave
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fail to see the purpose of this argument. With the right level of enthusiasm, a little configuration and remembering to plug it in when you're not there to manually suspend it, the phone works as a phone

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Hire
totally useless is the OM-Locations... we need a very usable gps sotfware like navit ( with complete maps as navteq o telealtas and a routes engine ) so why don't port it onto Openmoko and use it instead of Om-Locations? -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/2008.9-Basic-questions

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson
Nishit Dave wrote: On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:15 PM, Shawn prjktdtnt Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I fail to see the purpose of this argument. With the right level of enthusiasm, a little configuration and remembering to plug it in when you're not there

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread rakshat hooja
Sorry for the chain of posts, but when I bought the phone, IDA Systems claimed it had a 500 MHz processor. Now they have corrected their website to say it is 400 MHz. Are we trying to promote openness here, or damage it? Dear Nishit, The 500MHz was based on early confusion based on the

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread rakshat hooja
Just to add I too use Qtopia for my business use on a daily basis. Get some complains about voice quality otherwise managing ok. Rakshat On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:51 PM, rakshat hooja [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for the chain of posts, but when I bought the phone, IDA Systems claimed it

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Iain B. Findleton
Well, the box certainly is in a fairly raw state, and most of the apps there are pretty basic in terms of polish and performance, surprisingly so to me, as it is a machine that is roughly the equivalent of a desktop that one might have used in the late '90s. However, I make use of it instead of

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread Alex Fitzpatrick
Iain B. Findleton wrote: And of course, the buggy software can hurt. Surprisingly, I activated swap on my FR and stability and periodic slowing have improved. Don't know why that should be, but there you are. The answer there is to run top while using the phone... you'll see that it's

Re: 2008.9 Basic questions

2008-09-20 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 21:40 -0400, Alex Fitzpatrick wrote: Iain B. Findleton wrote: And of course, the buggy software can hurt. Surprisingly, I activated swap on my FR and stability and periodic slowing have improved. Don't know why that should be, but there you are. The answer