Re: 3 nets
Ah ok, thanks for clarifying. /Oliver >playing media != IPTV >I know of the glamo chip. It will do little to help decode IPTV-style >compression realtime AFAIK. >As mentioned in this thread before, you have to transcode offline prior to >playing it on NEO. Glamo might help to avoid prerotating, but still you have >to decode/transcode. > >jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Am Mo 31. März 2008 schrieb Oliver Uvman: > >NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You > won't > >find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics > >video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) > >jOERG > > The GTAv2 will have a 3D-acceleration chip. :) > There are already videos on youtube of the old GTAv1 playing media, so it > shouldn't be a problem to do it on the v2 > > /Oliver > playing media != IPTV I know of the glamo chip. It will do little to help decode IPTV-style compression realtime AFAIK. As mentioned in this thread before, you have to transcode offline prior to playing it on NEO. Glamo might help to avoid prerotating, but still you have to decode/transcode. jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
>NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't >find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics >video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) >jOERG The GTAv2 will have a 3D-acceleration chip. :) There are already videos on youtube of the old GTAv1 playing media, so it shouldn't be a problem to do it on the v2 /Oliver ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Comcast have their top people on it already: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fkzNOEiW4M8 On 30/03/2008, khang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to have an openmoko device (GTA0?) > which can access to 3 nets :Internet (email ,VoIP > wikipedia etc..),phonenet(3G,GPRS..) and cablenet > (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). > Is it possible ? > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Thanks, for see what happens Mikko Rauhala skrev: su, 2008-03-30 kello 18:19 +0200, Alexander Frøyseth kirjoitti: Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? You can play them on the GTA01 even, if you're willing to transcode the movie to a reasonably low bitrate (while also prerotating it) before watching. For suggested mencoder parameters that I found to provide quite adequate results for a small screen, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player The Freerunner will have accelerated rotation and scaling at least, probably also motion compensation for some formats (or at least I heard about Xvmc work being done at some point on the IRC channel, I believe). Subject to driver development I have the impression that the Glamo chip is able to further accelerate mpeg4 playback, however, what with the beefed up CPU and the hw scaling and rotation one should already be able to play more video files "out of the box" without crappifying them beforehand as is mostly necessary for the GTA01. (Note that when decoding with the CPU versus a dedicated chip, the battery will generally deplete faster even if the CPU is up to the job, though.) So, umm, yeah; don't expect too much, but at the very least we have decent quality pre-transcoded QVGA video playing _now_ on the GTA01's, so things aren't looking bad from where I'm standing. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
su, 2008-03-30 kello 18:19 +0200, Alexander Frøyseth kirjoitti: > Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? You can play them on the GTA01 even, if you're willing to transcode the movie to a reasonably low bitrate (while also prerotating it) before watching. For suggested mencoder parameters that I found to provide quite adequate results for a small screen, see http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Video_Player The Freerunner will have accelerated rotation and scaling at least, probably also motion compensation for some formats (or at least I heard about Xvmc work being done at some point on the IRC channel, I believe). Subject to driver development I have the impression that the Glamo chip is able to further accelerate mpeg4 playback, however, what with the beefed up CPU and the hw scaling and rotation one should already be able to play more video files "out of the box" without crappifying them beforehand as is mostly necessary for the GTA01. (Note that when decoding with the CPU versus a dedicated chip, the battery will generally deplete faster even if the CPU is up to the job, though.) So, umm, yeah; don't expect too much, but at the very least we have decent quality pre-transcoded QVGA video playing _now_ on the GTA01's, so things aren't looking bad from where I'm standing. -- Mikko Rauhala - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.iki.fi/mjr/> Transhumanist - WTA member - http://www.transhumanism.org/> Singularitarian - SIAI supporter - http://www.singinst.org/> ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Probably. The neo is roughly about as powered as a zaurus, and I've run mplayer on a zaurus before without too much degradation. On Sun, Mar 30, 2008 at 12:19 PM, Alexander Frøyseth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Well > Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? > > > joerg skrev: > > Am So 30. März 2008 schrieb Nick Guenther: > > > On 3/30/08, khang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > and cablenet > (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). > Is it possible ? > > This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the > processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an > everything, keep on target please. > > Well I guess there are a lot of cable modems with WLAN. > NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You > won't > find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics > video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) > > jOERG > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > > > ___ > Openmoko community mailing list > community@lists.openmoko.org > http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community > > ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Well Just one question, will it be able to watch movies on it? joerg skrev: Am So 30. März 2008 schrieb Nick Guenther: On 3/30/08, khang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an everything, keep on target please. Well I guess there are a lot of cable modems with WLAN. NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
Am So 30. März 2008 schrieb Nick Guenther: > On 3/30/08, khang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > and cablenet > > (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). > > Is it possible ? > > This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the > processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an > everything, keep on target please. Well I guess there are a lot of cable modems with WLAN. NEO is no phone, but only a something like a 300MHz/128MB computer. You won't find any in this class to do tricks like IPTV :-D (at least w/o a graphics video accelerator card, or other dedicated video hardware) jOERG ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: 3 nets
On 3/30/08, khang <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to have an openmoko device (GTA0?) > which can access to 3 nets :Internet (email ,VoIP > wikipedia etc..),phonenet(3G,GPRS..) and cablenet > (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). > Is it possible ? If you'd searched for news articles on Openmoko or the wiki, you would know that GTA02 has a GSM chip for your 'phonenet' and an atheros wifi chip for internet (or you can get internet via GPRS). As for cable.. I doubt it. This thing is too tiny to have a coaxial connection, and the processing power is probably too weak. This is a phone, not an everything, keep on target please. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
3 nets
I would like to have an openmoko device (GTA0?) which can access to 3 nets :Internet (email ,VoIP wikipedia etc..),phonenet(3G,GPRS..) and cablenet (IPTV, vedio on demand .. ). Is it possible ? ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
