Re: An idea of sorts
Max Giesbert wrote: sounds like an excellent idea to me. would definitely be a killer application to use the phone in a peer-to-peer style without using the telco network. UI-wise this could be realized in organizing the addressbook more like a IM client where you can see if your buddies are in BT-/WiFi-Range, Online (via any network connection (GPRS/UMTS/BT/WiFi)) or offline (callable/SMSable). In any situation you could choose to send text/chat or call your buddy. And the phone chooses the best (cost/battery life/reception) way to contact the buddy. what do you think? This is briefly mentioned in http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/My_Account I will write up a page on this referring to the other relevant pages on the wiki - Server:PhoneDirectory - or something. ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: An idea of sorts
On Saturday 28 July 2007 15:59:52 Giles Jones wrote: An easy way to install new software would be to be able to email it to your phone and use the phone's wifi to download the email. Of course security would have to be present to stop it installing anything received in an email. I would much rather have a package manager (think apt) than something like that. And OpenEmbedded already provides that, from what I understand. pgpJf12w9umgE.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: An idea of sorts
Giles Jones wrote: On 28 Jul 2007, at 14:23, Max Giesbert wrote: sounds like an excellent idea to me. would definitely be a killer application to use the phone in a peer-to-peer style without using the telco network. UI-wise this could be realized in organizing the addressbook more like a IM client where you can see if your buddies are in BT-/WiFi-Range, Online (via any network connection (GPRS/UMTS/BT/WiFi)) or offline (callable/SMSable). In any situation you could choose to send text/chat or call your buddy. And the phone chooses the best (cost/battery life/reception) way to contact the buddy. what do you think? max How about friends list? so you can basically add people to your friends list via email. The Nintendo Wii has a serial number built in and you can send a friend request to another Wii or to any other email address. When sending a message for the first time it asks for permission to be added (one way to stop spam). You can then email pictures to your Wii. An easy way to install new software would be to be able to email it to your phone and use the phone's wifi to download the email. Of course security would have to be present to stop it installing anything received in an email. Hi, correct me if I am wrong, but shouldnt Jabber/XMPP do this out of the box with (formerly Apples) Bonjour (http://www.xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0174.html)? You should simply have your IM Client active and see automatically every friend who is on your list as available (or what message he has selected). Exchanging data like pictures, binary or simply text is therefore already implemented? For seeing people how you dont know, you could join a Chatroom called Local for everyone available in short range technoligy like Wifi/BT/Infrared and Global for GPRS/Wifi(Internet). Who is subscribed to your personal Global Chatroom should be identified first... probably some kind of social group which has met before in person... Managing your calls over Jabber should also be possible through a IM Gateway which communitcates to your phonebook. Click on a friend and open a jingle connection directly (wifi/bt) to your friend or first to the gsm module which then dials out over normal voice Regards, Thomas ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: An idea of sorts
On Sat, 2007-07-28 at 15:36 +0100, Giles Jones wrote: ipkg is based on dpkg, it's more lightweight. It's also a bit more than just a dpkg clone, since it includes repositories and such. Don't get me wrong, we need package management, it's just that I've owned Windows Mobile phones and there's been no easy way to install software when using Linux. Getting a reliable sync solution that works on Windows, Mac OS and Linux is quite a big piece of work and while this is in development it is handy to have an alternative. ipkg-install (package) isn't easy enough, or a GUI front-end to the same? As for sync, since this IS a totally Open project, I'm sure there will be different alternatives, maybe even one for Linux, one for Mac, and one for Windows. It may also be that there are packages required on the PC side to complete the sync (Some kind of plugin for ActiveSync and iSync that talks SyncML, or a new profile for iSync for the Moko maybe). I'm also wondering how we are going to achieve installing applications on the SD card, have a lib directory and bin directory on there and add these to the paths? If they base it on ipkg, the way other OpenEmbedded platforms work, when you insert the card, the OS will check for and add any applications that are installed on the SD to the program manager. It's a little more involved than just adding a lib/bin directory to the respective path, but it worked well before my Zaurus died. -KW ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: An idea of sorts
On 7/28/07, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One BIG problem; wouldn't this type of routing require you to periodically broadcast your ID number. This would be great, if it wasn't you phone number, but it does create the potential for people to snoop for phone numbers We would need a incoming call firewall / blacklist :) Imagine this app with a broadcast of your location. Your friends could locate you, you could locate them (if they have this kind of service too). It's incredible how much stimulating this phone is :) ___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
An idea of sorts
Hello to one and all, and allow me to present a few ideas for the Neo1973/Openmoko combination that will drive sales and support.Simply put, use the phone number as an unique identifier for the phone,that can be broadcast via wifi or bluetooth, and then, when you give someone your phone-number, the have this identifier. (Only if they have a compatible phone/OS combination) Then, when you are in range, you can text/IM/call them over bluetooth/wifi.To me, this would be the ultimate teenager tool. It bypasses the Telco limitsfrees the phone for many social uses, say parties, hanging out, etc. And here's the thing: this should be ideally transparent to the users of the phone what mode is being used. However, if concerned, there can be a simpleicon representing the mode used. This sort of application will seem inconsequential, but in reality, it is thesort of thing that will drive change. As wifi tech improves, battery life improves, a feature like this will be a killer deal. Have any of you read any of Vernor Vinge's Singularity novels? Wherein he postulates an interconnected world of a depth that is only dreamed of now.To me, a platform like OpenMoko has the possibility to drive change in sucha way, that the world will literally be changed. If thats not your goal, inany project, why do it? If it won't change the world, even a small portion of it, then you are doing something wrong. The future will be driven by those whom not only anticipate change, but drive it by their actions and goals. I want to help OpenMoko sinceI feel it can change the world.Do you?-Sincerely, Tyler. _ Discover the new Windows Vista http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=windows+vistamkt=en-USform=QBRE___ OpenMoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
