Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-30 Thread Alessandro Iurlano
On 11/30/06, Selem Delul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nokia did it. (http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Mobile_Web_Server ) So yeah, it is possible. They are using a gateway to translate an url to your phone's web server (and i guess they are using it to communicate with the phone which is

Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread michael
Here's another idea, this one less than half-baked, but I trust this community to help identify the flaws, seek the gems, and see if anything remains that is useful. My current phone is the Danger Sidekick II. One of its features that I really like is the web page that Danger provides that

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Jeff Andros
This isn't really half baked at all, all you need is a webserver on the device small enough to run 1-2 clients and https... It's even better than the danger since everything runs on your phone... you have control of security, and we could even make a monitor app that displays when someone's

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Redvers Davies
On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 13:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's another idea, this one less than half-baked, but I trust this community to help identify the flaws, seek the gems, and see if anything remains that is useful. This will be the first application I will develop. I love it - That

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread michael
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Redvers Davies wrote: On Wed, 2006-11-29 at 13:42 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's another idea, this one less than half-baked, but I trust this community to help identify the flaws, seek the gems, and see if anything remains that is useful. This will be the first

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Newsom
I love this idea and I would like to suggest a method of handeling a portions of it... Use web services... Web methods or whatever you call it. If you build an api for uploading sets of data they could be implelented in almost any lauguage and used natively like normal objects. Perl, php,

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread michael
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Tim Newsom wrote: I love this idea and I would like to suggest a method of handeling a portions of it... Use web services... Web methods or whatever you call it. If you build an api for uploading sets of data they could be implelented in almost any lauguage and used

re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Jeff Andros
Use web services... Web methods or whatever you call it. If you build an api for uploading sets of data they could be implelented in almost any lauguage and used natively like normal objects. Perl, php, python, java, c# can all do that and it means the backend does not have to be

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Newsom
Yeah. But more specifically I am defining the type of api as web services or web methods (they are the same thing usually). Basically, the web method is a standard used to define the remote method calls, their required parameters and types of acceptable data from within a program. Any

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Newsom
Right.. For peer to peer or requests directly to the phone that's true. There is no reason we could not build a community shared server to be the intermedary between the phones however... Something that doesn't store the data longer than necessary for another phone to retreive the

Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Selem Delul
Nokia did it. (http://wiki.opensource.nokia.com/projects/Mobile_Web_Server) So yeah, it is possible. They are using a gateway to translate an url to your phone's web server (and i guess they are using it to communicate with the phone which is behind the operator's proxy) On 11/30/06, Jeff

Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Robert Michel
Salve Jeff,*! When it will be only adresses, todo, memo - syncML is build to do this. But please via a secure network - Siemens offer this unencrypted. *help*help*help*help* On Wed, 29 Nov 2006, Jeff Andros wrote: for uploading sets of data they could be implelented in almost any lauguage

Fwd: Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Jeff Andros
snip Without thougths like that you will have an incredible GPRS traffic = costs. ICS is really simple so we could host that from the device as well. If Apache isn't small enough, even stripped down, there are several server apps that are optimised for this kind of environment I don't

Re: Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Newsom
Web services are XML data transfer. The problem with xml is that it is wordy for data (size) but good for parsing. What I mean by that is that its not the most efficient way to transfer data ( ok thats obvious) but its a defined format and easy to parse just about anywhere.. just slow. If you

Re: Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Jeff Andros
On 11/29/06, Tim Newsom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Web services are XML data transfer. The problem with xml is that it is wordy for data (size) but good for parsing. What I mean by that is that its not the most efficient way to transfer data ( ok thats obvious) but its a defined format and easy

Re: Please think about incrementel sync Re: Another idea for an application for the Neo: Instant sync to web page duplicating info on phone

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Newsom
So here is a document talking about some of the things we have mentioned... From the link to nokia... http://research.nokia.com/tr/NRC-TR-2006-005.pdf Interesting, they have thought of quite a bit of this already. --Tim. On 11/29/06, Jeff Andros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/29/06, Tim