Re: Any compliant headset? (Re: was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)
On 18 Apr 2008, at 23:12, Shawn Rutledge wrote: I would like to see future devices using a 3.5mm jack. IMO the important thing is high-quality music, whereas if you just want to talk on the phone, Bluetooth headsets are more popular these days. I haven't found a bluetooth headset which comfortably fits my ear. I'd be happy to use an over-the-head headset (like this shape http:// www.provu.co.uk/imgs/snom_headset_monaural_new.jpg) if I could find one that did bluetooth (in fact, I'd buy at least two) but right now I don't consider bluetooth an option. All I want to do is to be able to use some of the time I spend driving to return my customers' phonecalls. If this can be solved with a wired pair of earbuds (featuring a microphone on the cable) which costs pennies to produce then (to me) this is obviously better than experimenting with several bluetooth headsets which, a week or two after purchase, start dropping off my ear in the middle of a conversation. Right now, all I do when I get in my car is take my phone out of my shirt pocket, pick up the earbuds' cable from the passenger seat and plug it in; it takes 2 seconds to clip the microphone to my shirt collar. As I said before, each of the last 3 phones I've bought have come with a wired headset, but each has use a different proprietary connector. (examples: http://www.e-batteries.com.au/images/B_XAD0005_03.jpg http://www.cellexcompany.com/ebay/datacables/datacable.gif) For this reason I just assumed that one would require a headset designed specifically for the Neo. For those up in arms over paying for my cabled headset because it's an accessory they'll never use, I hope that FIC will consider the cost-benefit of this - you can undoubtedly buy such headsets, properly wired with the appropriate connector, for cents when you are buying them by the thousand from a factory in China. If device owners must buy them as a separate item then the price must reflect the hassle of stocking shipping them, and will be MUCH increased. Stroller. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Any compliant headset? (Re: was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)
thomasg wrote: What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC produced headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so I strongly assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you should describe what exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out what the problem is. I can only guess: it could be a problem with the alsa settings, or maybe the impedance of the headsets was just different. Hi Thomas, all, Publish please urls where a compliant headset (2.5mm, 65 ohms, stereo, mic?) can be bought online. If there is no compliant headset, the issue will be at least identified, hopefully first step before resolution :-) . I tried 3 earphones: the first one was unusable, due to low impedance as pointed out by Joerg's answer: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013791.html I did not find a 2.5mm, 65 ohms stereo earphone, and fall back to check two 3.5mm, 65 ohms Sennheiser earphones plus a 3.5/2.5mm adapter. The audio volume is correct, but now only one ear has audio. Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any compliant headset? (Re: was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)
I noticed only one headphone getting sound when I was using a 3.5-2.5 adapter with a motorola phone a while ago. I would just jiggle the connection or reinsert the 3.5 slowly and it would work. Maybe you're experiencing the same thing from a similar crappy adapter. On Apr 18, 2008, at 2:15 PM, Gilles Casse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: thomasg wrote: What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC produced headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so I strongly assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you should describe what exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out what the problem is. I can only guess: it could be a problem with the alsa settings, or maybe the impedance of the headsets was just different. Hi Thomas, all, Publish please urls where a compliant headset (2.5mm, 65 ohms, stereo, mic?) can be bought online. If there is no compliant headset, the issue will be at least identified, hopefully first step before resolution :-) . I tried 3 earphones: the first one was unusable, due to low impedance as pointed out by Joerg's answer: http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013791.html I did not find a 2.5mm, 65 ohms stereo earphone, and fall back to check two 3.5mm, 65 ohms Sennheiser earphones plus a 3.5/2.5mm adapter. The audio volume is correct, but now only one ear has audio. Gilles ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any compliant headset? (Re: was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)
On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Richard Reichenbacher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I noticed only one headphone getting sound when I was using a 3.5-2.5 adapter with a motorola phone a while ago. I would just jiggle the connection or reinsert the 3.5 slowly and it would work. Maybe you're experiencing the same thing from a similar crappy adapter. I have also had this happen with an adapter I got from Fry's. It worked as badly with my Zaurus as it did with phones (and I haven't tried on the Neo). The actual Motorola adapter (a short cable with a 2.5mm right-angle plug on one end and 3.5mm jack on the other end) works much better with the devices I have tried. I would like to see future devices using a 3.5mm jack. IMO the important thing is high-quality music, whereas if you just want to talk on the phone, Bluetooth headsets are more popular these days. (And BT is not as good for music because of the lossy compression.) It's very nice to be able to directly plug in ordinary good-quality headphones for music. ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
Re: Any compliant headset? (Re: was FreeRunner Pricing and PVT update)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Gilles, i got a headset with 2,5mm with my HTC SDA2 (SDAII). Probably you might find one when searching with this. For example here: http://www.mygift.com/htc/htc-SDA-headset.html Greetings Bastian Gilles Casse schrieb: | thomasg wrote: | What you wrote, Gilles, is a problem. I can't imagine, that FIC produced headsets that would fit for the neo only (why should they?), so I strongly assume that the headset is a standard device. Maybe you should describe what exactly didn't work, so we can try to figure out what the problem is. | I can only guess: it could be a problem with the alsa settings, or maybe the impedance of the headsets was just different. | | | Hi Thomas, all, | | Publish please urls where a compliant headset (2.5mm, 65 ohms, stereo, mic?) can be bought online. If there is no compliant headset, the issue will be at least identified, hopefully first step before resolution :-) . | | I tried 3 earphones: the first one was unusable, due to low impedance as pointed out by Joerg's answer: | http://lists.openmoko.org/pipermail/community/2008-March/013791.html | | I did not find a 2.5mm, 65 ohms stereo earphone, and fall back to check two 3.5mm, 65 ohms Sennheiser earphones plus a 3.5/2.5mm adapter. The audio volume is correct, but now only one ear has audio. | | Gilles | | | ___ | Openmoko community mailing list | community@lists.openmoko.org | http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community | -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFICSwPlYiDScJJ+7QRAvwSAJ94dH4mcfibDtb2bwL5jYLVasnVIwCeP2Uy wb/cgqG4bccwcj5L6IeEo+g= =Lmj3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Openmoko community mailing list community@lists.openmoko.org http://lists.openmoko.org/mailman/listinfo/community
